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Season 34 Historic Trophy – Round 4 – VIR : Virginia International Raceway

Round 4 takes us to Virginia.
In 1955, a group of North Carolina car enthusiasts began their search for a possible racetrack location.
They soon found the perfect site on the state line on land owned by the Foote Family and VIRginia International Raceway opened for business in August of 1957.
The group leased the property as Sports Car Enterprises.
VIR’s first official event was an SCCA race that attracted stars like Carroll Shelby, Carl Haas, Bob Holbert, Augie Pabst, Bob Grossman,
Don Yenko, Dr. Dick Thompson, Walt Hansgen and Bruce Jennings.
Shelby, who would later go on to worldwide fame by winning the 24 Hours of Le Mans in 1959 and creating the iconic Cobra sports cars in the early 1960s,
won that first feature race at VIR in a Maserati 450S.
The lconic Texan uttered a quote about the track that is remembered to this day, “one lap at VIR is like a hundred at Watkins Glen.”

Race List = iGOR
Server = UKGPL_9
IP = see iGOR  
Race date = Tuesday 19-02-2019
Time = 21:00 UK time (21:00 GMT)
Track = VIR
Race length = 24 Laps (<50 minutes)
Variant = 1966
Password: see above (#post_event_password)
Driver lists and divisional rules can be found on the championship standings page (https://www.simracing.org.uk/smf/index.php?action=LM2R&group=667&theme=6)
60fps patch used   = 60fpsV2newmod
Damage Model = Pro
Qualifying time = 30-45 minutes
Replays = here (ftp://ftp.ukgpl9.co.uk:32122/Season34)

Replay here (https://www.sendspace.com/file/d8f5h5)

There is no Red Zone. Moderating will be on reported incidents only. Remember that lap 1 incidents carry an additional penalty place.

The chassis token system is explained on the Historics Trophy standings page.

Please restrict chat to pit messages including at the end of the race until ALL drivers still racing have crossed the line.

A driver must have sufficient tokens for the chassis he drives in the race.  Any driver who does not have sufficient tokens will be disqualified from the result and his tokens will be set to zero.

The chassis a driver uses in qualifying are disregarded when determining his token spend.
Note:  This is to cater for the instances when a driver either does not start or inadvertently joins with the wrong chassis and subsequently rejoins the server in another.

Any tokens not spent at the end of the season are ignored and are not used to determine championship positions in the event of a tie.


PRO rules means Shift-Rs are not allowed at any time and the damage model is realistic.
 
Drivers must complete 50% race distance to score.


Available Tokens:
Note: These are the tokens available to each driver before the 10 tokens are added for making the race start.

Driver	Tokens	Status
AnGex	4	Pro
Arf Arf Arf	10	Pro
bagrupp	16	Pro
Cookie	6	Pro
DLogan	10	Pro
EvilClive	14	Pro
Gareth	10	Pro
Greg T	10	Pro
Iestyn Davies	10	Pro
MagicArsouille	16	Pro
Billy Nobrakes	14	Am
francesco	20	Am
Mark65	24	Am
Phil Thornton	29	Am
Rainier	26	Am
Rich Welsh	18	Am

 >:(At one lap from the point camshaftt broken.I don't think to have stressed the engine.

I've loaded the chassis the drivers used into the token calculator spreadsheet.  For the next race the available tokens will be as declared in the table below (the table will also appear in the next race announcement).  The calculated values are automated but selecting the cars is a manual process so please check your tokens to make sure I haven't made a silly error.  There was no token overspend for this round so no one is disqualified.

Driver	Tokens	Status
AnGex	2	Pro
Arf Arf Arf	10	Pro
bagrupp	16	Pro
Cookie	13	Pro
DLogan	10	Pro
EvilClive	16	Pro
Gareth	10	Pro
Greg T	10	Pro
Iestyn Davies	10	Pro
MagicArsouille	18	Pro
Billy Nobrakes	14	Am
francesco	20	Am
Mark65	24	Am
Phil Thornton	29	Am
Rainier	24	Am
Rich Welsh	18	Am

The corner combinations are a real handful here & I really did not put in enough practice. The benefit was I was not going fast enough to damage the car so ended up with a reasonable finish.

Yes Billy, same here. slipped from the track and lost a wheel.
Unhappy to see drivers having even the 3 liter faster cars with some corner cutting in the esses, first laps

I did that from 1st to last lap   ;D

Why are you unhappy ?
is it forbidden ?  By who ?
Why didn't you do the same ?

All cars I followed did the same during this race.

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VIR is a track that favors corner cutting, but it seems not to be a big advantage...

GPL does count even 1 wheel "off the track"!
I try to stay with at least 2 wheels on the tarmac ::)

Hum, Mr Bastian ! Only one on track lap  ;D

Hallo Rainier.

probably i didn't look it up here, but i was sure that the same rule is applied like GPLRacer, you need to have 2 Wheels on the track according to the gentlemen agreements
Its in most leagues i drive or have driven, but it seems i have to study ukgpl rules more....
but kerbs is part of the track ;)

Hehe, 1 of 9 is nice..but i guess no one of that was intended and gave me any advantage :D

Rules (https://www.ukgpl.com/index.php/rules/etiquette) say:

Riding the kerbs is permitted but there must always be at least two wheels within the track boundary at any one time. If three or four wheels have been placed outside the track boundary then a driver is deemed to have left the track and will subsequently have to perform a rejoin with the necessary caution this dictates.

PS

if you look at Tris, you see that on track is faster :D

Well i guess i saw three guys running through the esses full speed with 4 Wheels on the grass.  :o

Some tracks need a definition of track boundary to go with the race announcement.   ::)

Such as the last corner at Hockenheim!  I practiced within the white lines but when I found that even Phil was using the tarmac on the outside I just went with the flow.

Axel is quite right about "keeping 2 wheels on the tarmac", but we are all human and drivers can only expect a penalty if they are :-
a) warned about not cutting the track at a certain point in the race announcement
and/or
b) cut the track consistantly at that point during the race


 I confess that I do try to adhere to those guidelines in any race, but when you are driving at the limit sometimes it does not work that way and I was guilty of getting all 4 wheels on the green stuff at times at V.I.R. My percentage score would also have been affected by the 3 or 4 spins that took me off track, plus outbraking myself and over running the corner on a couple of occasions. GPL only records the number of times that you leave the circuit, it makes no allowance for dumb mistakes like mine  :-\.

If everyone with less than 50% of laps on track is disqualified I would be the winner. ::) Based on Tristans result it looks as though keeping on the tarmac is the best plan.

It always appeared to me that GPL counts any wheel off the tarmac as being off track.  Do I remember correctly that at Nurburgring everybody has 100% laps off track?

hi all...

I cant find best place to email the forums.. so hope the latest race thread will be OK.

I have finally got the time to come back to online racing and cant think of anything better the good ol GPL and UKGPL in particular.

I have just retired so now have the time needed. dusting off the old wheel, pedals, shifter etc this week and need to get back up to speed asap.

to make a long story short .. i managed to get back onto here and can post etc.. but a lot of old links send me to SRMZ  and the track database etc.etc. but Im having real trouble remebering usernames and resetting passwords etc. I usually used paul_v or similar as a username and my email addy of [email protected] but Im not getting any reply messages. Are there any Mods from those sites able to help please or can anyone point me in the right direction.

without access to the sites im unable to get the newest stuff. 

I need to udate my gpl install of course.. get newest drivers for all the hardware. etc,etc but as soon as im sorted Im hoping to be allowed back to race with you guys.

cheers.. Paul Villiers

p.s. sorry to hijack the race thread.  but perhaps a mod can set up a thread for me and delete this one

There is a rule as Cookie has pointed out, but it is there to cater as much for re-joins as it is for corner cutting.

We discussed corner cutting at Pebble Beach see here (https://www.simracing.org.uk/smf/index.php?topic=8528.msg150858#msg150858). We decided it was too much effort for the moderators to check every lap to see if anyone was corner cutting. Given that corner cutting is the same for everyone, it is a level playing field so we ignored corner cutting at the chicane at Pebble Beach. Not ideal but a pragmatic solution. If corner cutting is causing problems at a track then we shouldn't use it. However in this case, as Tris has shown, corner cutting isn't necessarily faster.

We have had incidents where drivers have still been racing when on the grass. An example was at Snetterton in Season 20 (https://www.simracing.org.uk/smf/index.php?topic=10592.msg191847#msg191847), when Maddog carried on racing whilst outside the track boundary. The rule Cookie has quoted above, puts the onus on the driver re-joining the track not to make contact. The rule is to clarify when a driver is deemed to have left the track and consequently when the rules about re-joining can be applied. Or to put it another way, nobody should be overtaken or disadvantaged by someone leaving and re-joining the track i.e. cutting corners.

This isn't an easy topic to address without causing a huge workload for the moderators.

I assume and summarize from the comments, that corner cutting is not as strict as i am used to - it's ok for me.

Hi Paul

Welcome back.  You have got the right account on here so you should be able to pick up where you left off, the last of your 87 races was on 20 June 2013. A lot has happened since then!

If you can't access the old sites I suggest this site (http://gplworld.org/easy-installation-guide.html) would be a good place to start. It has links to all the new mods you have missed.  You may have to create a new account on SRMZ etc.

There is a lot of life left in the old game ;). Happy retirement   :thumbup2:

Regards

Phil

welcome back Paul  ;D

Thanks boys...

trying to sort accounts etc. will keep you all posted. ( or bored!!)

not been around for a while and dusted off a quite decent pc. i had built it for my planned return a few years back...
but although it ran GPL brilliantly it was on win7.. so it needed tons and tons of updates etc.. kept locking up. crashed a few times. then had a power cut at home while trying to get up and running.

I wondered what you guys would do to build a GPL only gaming PC????

Im going to start a new thread re this problem and leave this thread for race chats etc only..

but so excited to be on the verge of another new life of GPL

Paul,