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Season 34 – 1955 Grand Prix – Round 6 – Dundrod

The sixth race in the 1955 Grand Prix series takes us to Dundrod in Northern Ireland. The Dundrod Circuit was first used in 1950 for the RAC Tourist Trophy Sports Car race and for the Formula One (non-championship) Ulster Trophy. The Sports Cars raced again in 1951 through to 1955 and the Formula 1 cars from 1951 through to 1953. The circuit comprised public roads closed for racing including a section of the B38 Hannahstown Road between Glenavy and Hannahstown, a section of the B101 Leathemstown Road from Leathemstown Corner to Dundrod and a section of the B153 Quarterland/Tornagrough Road from Cochranstown to the road junction of the B38 Upper Springsfield Road/Hannahstown Road at the Lindsay Hairpin. The last car race held on the Dundrod Circuit was the 1955 RAC Tourist Trophy race (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1955_RAC_Tourist_Trophy) in which sadly there were 3 fatalities. The narrow, high-speed nature of the circuit, meant it was just too dangerous and since then it has only been used for motorcycle racing.

For this race we will use the 1950 layout which includes the Leathemstown Bridge section.
 
Please read the championship specific rules on the championship standings page (https://www.simracing.org.uk/smf/index.php?action=LM2R&group=664&theme=6).

Race list	iGOR
Server	UKGPL_4
IP address	46.69.108.227
Date	31-03-2019
Track	Dundrod 1950 (http://jrpearson.homestead.com/Dundrod1950Downloads.html)
Mod	55GP with 60fpsV2newmod
Damage	PRO long
Race time	~ 21:30 UK time
Qualifying	20:45 UK time - 45 minutes
Race length	10 laps
Replay	here (ftp://ftp.ukgpl9.co.uk:32122/Season34/55GP)

The replay server is currently unavailable. The server replay can be downloaded from this temporary location (https://drive.google.com/file/d/1kSFWmTBe4xC62vY_mG0dc9ZmnSbT_Lk-/view?usp=sharing).

Please restrict chat to emergency messages only including at the end of the race until ALL drivers still racing have crossed the line.

Password: see above (#post_event_password)
Driver lists can be found on the championship standings page (https://www.simracing.org.uk/smf/index.php?action=LM2R&group=664&theme=6)

Handicapping and chassis allocation.
This season the 1955 Grand Prix cars will again be using a token system which allows drivers to purchase any chassis of their choice for a given number of tokens as published on the championship standings page (https://www.simracing.org.uk/smf/index.php?action=LM2R&group=664&theme=6). Drivers classed as Amateurs will be allocated an additional 10 tokens.  The token allocation will not be managed in SRou this season so (unlike the 67F1 Works and 67F1 Privateer divisions) the tokens available to each driver will not appear in the championship table (when the mouse pointer is hovered over the driver's total).  Rather, the available tokens will be published in the race announcement. See table below.

Available Tokens:
Note: These are the tokens available to each driver before the 10 tokens are added for making the race start.

Driver	Tokens	Status
Alessandro Isacchini	13	Pro
bagrupp	12	Pro
Clive Loynes	18	Pro
Cookie	22	Pro
DLogan	5	Pro
EvilClive	28	Pro
fpolicardi	0	Pro
Gareth	5	Pro
Jeep	0	Pro
uli	3	Pro
francesco	15	Am
Phil Thornton	25	Am
Rich Welsh	13	Am
tagomago	60	Am

Think I can manage about five laps on the same set of wheels but they are not all good ones!   ::)

Would that be the wheels, or the laps Clive???

Just tried Dundrod for the first time in about 4 years I think, and that was in a 65 or F2 mod which is a little different  ::). It was a case of learning the circuit from scratch for the 55 mod and there are now several dead sheep and a good many fewer trees and 5 bar gates in this part of the world!! Oh yes!!,  and quite a bit of scrap metal lying around  :-\

When I can remember where I am on these country lanes, and where the next proper corner is, I am getting down to the 4:00 per lap but I'm not sure that I could maintain that for a whole race. One memory slip about exactly what is around the next big tree or blind curve can end a person's race very quickly  ::)

Both!

I think that I've managed seven laps on the trot now!
But one of them was a seven minute job because I couldn't find a way back through the hedge!   ::)  Still the same set of wheels though!


EDIT:  Almost there!  Nine laps in one go!  :jumpjoy:

This place really does need a lot of concentration.  Which is in short supply around here!

Practice server is up on IGOR if anyone wants to test their connection.

Yep!! could not agree more about concentration ( and the local shortage in available resources  :-\ ). I find that just when I think I have got the flow of the circuit and that I can maybe push the envelope just a fraction, a tree jumps out and grabs a wheel!!!

Getting the cannot join without track installed again!!! :no:

Whats the IP address I'll try through GEM
is it 92.116.149.169 ?

I am getting the same message Rich, but I know that the track IS installed as I have just done a few laps off line.

The IP address should show in IGOR.

Update... the current server IP is 46.69.108.227 as of 20:33 UK time

It is 46.69.108.227

I'll updated the race post

It is probably your season55.ini file

I suggest you make a copy and edit it so that you only have 1 race, i.e. Dundrod.

I have just tried to join via IP and I get

 "Cannot load track"  ???

Track is in both 55.season and 55.ini files, so I am out of ideas, but I will try Phil's idea and remove all except Dundrod.

Just removed all circuits except Dundrod from Season55.ini file ...still get "Cannot Load Circuit".
Should I remove all except Dundrod from G55.ini file too??

try putting dundrod in 67 ini files worked for me at albi last time out

Is it the correct Dundrod?  i.e the 1950 version not the later version with the Leathemstown Bridge missing?

Sorry I meant put Dundrod in the 67 season file in GEM

the one above in the link works now for me

It is the one with the Bapom cover showing D type and Merc?

I have just added the Dundrod circuit to 67season.ini....but server has vanished from list lol. I guess that Axel is adjusting??

just joined again but I had to do it through multiplayer in GEM then type the IP address in?

Dundrod 1950

Sorry guys I had the wrong Dundrod...now d/loaded the 1950 version and all OK

Fulvio Phil is hosting, and UKGPL_4 is showing here

else try IP 46.69.108.227

Not see password

Happy with qually. Lap 1 was fun. Crashed lap 2. Just pushed too hard. I need to learn to stay cool and drive within my limits. Same lesson I've been trying to learn for years. Tough track but I enjoyed it.

Yes Phil ,you was very fast but you are right to stay within limits.

Are you registered for 55s?

Brilliant drive Evil. How you managed to initially have the wrong track installed yet still managed third on the grid then won the race with the fastest lap is truly amazing.  I don't practice much but I did for this one and I was quite pleased with my speed but I would never have matched you in a month of Sundays.

UUUHH;  following Francesco i lost it while breaking early but on a bump, got stuck...argh...more pratice needed.

Congrats to Evil, Uli and all finishers.

The main aim was to fill the coffers with a few Thornton Dollars and so the Gordini was the obvious choice.  Whilst it has a reasonable turn of speed once it's rolling, it doesn't have enough low down grunt to pull the skin of a rice pudding! 

Qually went reasonably well but could have been better.  All my best bits should have yielded a 4:15.xxx but, naturally, they didn't all appear in the same lap!

The start went as expected, with a herd of Connaughts rushing past me before I could get up to speed.

I managed to pick off a few of them in the early part of lap one, including Uli who had been trying to get the better of Evil but ended up in a series of lurid slides after clipping the bank.

Later in the lap I noticed that Uli was the next car behind me and whilst wondering what I should do when he caught me I took my eye off the ball and finished up on a field!  I had to sit and wait for the entire field to file past before I could burst back through the hedge.  Luckily I had missed all the solid objects.

I had practiced more for this race than any other that I can remember but the nature of the place is that it only takes a moments loss of concentration to bring disaster. 

From there it was a matter of picking my way back through the field, most of whom were obviously concentrating on staying on the grey bit and wondering what the next corner might be.

Rich was the exception and it took me two attempts to make the pass stick due to the previously mentioned lack of low down grunt! 

Once I had made it back to 3rd position I just had to drive to the finish as Uli was about a Km up the road. 

I should have done better.  :-(

Grats to all finishers, this track does not take prisoners.

Phil, I have to confess that when I discovered that I had done some practice on the "wrong" circuit, I thought that it would all end in a hedge somewhere.
I also lost some 10 minutes getting the correct track installed, so qualifying became a rapid learning session. I was fortunate that 90% of the track is the same and the bridge section was the biggest new bit. I find that with the 55 cars, and especially with the 4 speed options, the gear ratios are critical and I had to change some ratios to accommodate the new track.
I ran quali on race fuel + 5 galls, so that the car was heavy, but it gave me a "safe" benchmark for the handling and it was not until the last few minutes that I sorted all the correct braking points and hooked up a decent lap.
It was a surprise and a relief to get 3rd on the grid, (because I was contemplating starting at the back and hoping to pick up some places through the race) and the added bonus was that I was alongside Clive Loynes in a Gordini  ;). If I could not beat that car off the grid, then I needed to get my pit crew sacked!!! Uli was also in a Connaught, so I was not going to have to chase one of the fast machines, which had worried me on all those long flat out bits.
Sure enough, I was past Clive's Gordini and onto Uli's tailpipes straight away and I thought that we were going to have a long battle, but Uli got it just a little wrong at the second heavy braking point and went grass cutting. I did not need a second invitation and took the lead, expecting Uli to chase me down.
I simply tried to be safe for the rest of the race and avoid making a terminal mistake and if Uli wanted to catch me he would have to take the risks.

The hairpin was different and it took me a few laps to get my braking and downshifts correct for that corner. I could see Uli's car as I set off towards the S/F and judge how well I was holding te gap. That bridge section was a real dilemma for the first half of the race and I was ultra careful through there until I found the correct line etc, then I could push just a little...but not too much ::)
The gap suddenly grew and I guess Uli had an incident, which gave me a very big cushion. But maintaining concentration was difficult when you are not under pressure, and there were a couple of places where it all might have ended against a telegraph pole or tree.
Lucky to survive, but pleased that I finally tamed Dundrod and picked up some nice points.

At the end of the race I was still learning the track, I think it was less difficult to learn The Ring, but it was 20 years ago... ::)
Anyway I'm surprised to still lead the standing! Even if I'll have to discard some points in the end.
No practice for this race cause I was skiing on Saturday and too much tired after that to fire-up GPL. I didn't even think about change car to spare some dollars cause I don't know other cars but the Merc. This strategy won't help at Indy I think...
So survive was the matter and luckily I spun only once on first lap and for all the race I had to try a compromise to stay on track and to defend from Tagomago's Gordini that I had easily passed at start, but luckily he had some lawn moving here an there  ;D
Next one  :o

Did some practice here so had a reasonable idea where I was going,at least that was what I thought!as Phil says a difficult track so grats to all finishers
My race was uneventful until Clive passed me on lap 4 I think and then I found some new pace and the car was starting to feel better so I managed to hang on to his slipstream which was working out well as we were catching Francesco then on lap 6 I had a really clumsy clash with a hedge which seemed to suck me in then clamp me !!so I couldn't move >:( which was a shame cos although I probably wouldn't of been able to challenge Clive I think me and Frencesco could of had a good couple of laps towards the end if the hedge thing didn't happen.Hey ho roll on the next one really enjoying the 55 season
Thanks all

I've loaded the chassis the drivers used into the token calculator spreadsheet.  For the next race the available tokens will be as declared in the table below (the table will also appear in the next race announcement).  The calculated values are automated but selecting the cars is a manual process so please check your tokens to make sure I haven't made a silly error.  There was no token overspend for this round so no one is disqualified.

Driver	Tokens	Status
Alessandro Isacchini	13	Pro
bagrupp	10	Pro
Clive Loynes	28	Pro
Cookie	22	Pro
DLogan	5	Pro
EvilClive	33	Pro
fpolicardi	0	Pro
Gareth	5	Pro
Jeep	0	Pro
uli	8	Pro
francesco	20	Am
Phil Thornton	30	Am
Rich Welsh	18	Am
tagomago	70	Am

Oooooooooh! I have loads of dollars to spend .  :jumpjoy:

The austerity policy worked then!   ::)

With a couple of very fast tracks coming up, you will need them. It will be interesting to see who has spent wisely  ;)

Yes, but now that I have them they look so shiny and pretty. :drool: It would be a shame to get rid of them now that I have collected so many  :shifty:

Miser!

tago's Gordini fixation has given him quite a pile too!   ::)

Congrats Clives and all finishers,
Clive told what happend very well. I didn't find the flow over more than one lap, so I was very carefull, anyhow a spun again but finished. :)that was what I want the most :)
I'm happy. Fine track, really great for the55 mod.
Great race speed Clive :thumbup2:
Hope to find time for the next race.

Hard luck Phil.  You had some useful pace there. 

I've installed Bandicam so that I can take screen shots from OpenGL.

Then I started to experiment with the video side of things.  With any luck this is one of my practice laps at Dundrod:
 Dundrod Gordini (http://planet-venom.co.uk/gpl/GPL55/GPL55 Dundrod Gordini.avi)


LOL  Cookie anticipated my question.

It would work this way if the link works...

Hmmm................

It finds it like this:   http://www.planet-venom.co.uk/gpl/GPL55/GPL55%20Dundrod%20Gordini.avi

But doesn't play?


Ah!  Perhaps it does but it sets about downloading 2.6GB before it starts.   :wacko:


EDIT: the avi file has been removed and replaced with the much smaller mp4 file.

Yes, a DL starts...
Not playing


PS
Get "Handbrake" to convert the big .avi to a much smaller video with .mp4

OK, so can you engage "talking to idiot" mode and explain to me how to get something that just plays?  Perhaps not here but on, say, facebook?

It seems we can't link videos here.

But you can make a link to utupe where it runs.

I will never have a FB account...

Get it here: https://handbrake.fr/

Install it then drag and drop the avi into the window and let it make an mp4 file

PS
I just downloaded and converted your avi to mp4 -> 408mb ! even smaller with some cropping...

Thanks Axel, I will have a look.

https://www.instagram.com/p/Bv4BaZxlR2t

Brilliant Axel.
Resultant MP4 came out at 389Mb and of a quite watchable quality too.

Many thanks.

http://www.planet-venom.co.uk/gpl/GPL55/Dundrod_Gordini.mp4


That's interesting.  When I click on the link it plays rather than downloading.  ;-)   Any explanation?

Sorry guys for my absence in this races
Cause various problems and work in real life I do not have much time, hope to make some race before the end of the champ  :)

Nice video Clive, some race footage would be interesting.

LOL...after a couple of turns I began to suffer of nausea... ;D

LOL  It's those marshals in red tank-tops. 

Nice video Mr Loynes  ;)

Is it not possible to use the REPLAY file from GPL, or am I misunderstanding what you have achieved Clive?

This is the replay, as you can't see the brake light.

LOL
It was produced so that someone who did not have GPL could see what it was all about.  I used it on Facebook.
Simon and I have another brother, Keith, who has attempted to install GPL.  This was partly encouragement and partly to see if he could watch it without throwing up!  None of us is very good at being a passenger.  Fulvio's comment suggests we might have a problem.  Perhaps I should try him on IMS first.   ;D

It is on here because Axel helped me to get it sorted.

Aha!!  maintenant je suis comprend  ;D

The Loynes' clan (  with the clandestine support of SBRC ) is planning a takeover ???  :shifty:


As a non Twitface or Snapgram user, it had not occurred to me that anyone would want to do that  ;)

Maybe the nausea was caused by the sight of a Connaught in the distance ???  :whistling: :whistling: :whistling: :whistling:

I demand a rematch!   :P

"maintenant, j'ai compris" would be better   ;) 

Merci David.  ;)

It's all Greek to me.   ::)