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Title: UKGPL Season 34 (2019) 1967 F1 Privateers - Montlhéry - Apr 7
Post by: Billy Nobrakes on April 01, 2019, 10:43:34 PM +0100
Season 34 PRIVATEERS – Round 7 –  Montlhery

IMPORTANT ANNOUNCEMENT Due to the number of registrations for this series we will be splitting into two grids for the rest of the sesaon. All drivers have been allocated to either Works or Privateers. If you don’t know check the link for Driver Lists below. If you have not already voted to join the Privateers championship you will need to do so to see the password. Privateers will use the server UKGPL10 & Works UKGPL4.

Autodrome de Montlhéry (established 4 October 1924) is a motor racing circuit, officially called L’autodrome de Linas-Montlhéry, located south-west of the small town of Montlhéry about thirty kilometres (19 miles) south of Paris. It was initially called Autodrome Parisien, and had especially high banking. A road circuit was added in 1925.
The first race there, the 1925 French Grand Prix, was held on 26 July 1925 and organised by The Automobile Club de France Grand Prix. It was a race in which Robert Benoist in a Delage won; Antonio Ascari died in an Alfa Romeo P2. The Grand Prix revisited the track in 1927 and each year between 1931 and 1937.

Server = UKGPL10
IP = see iGOR
Race date = Sunday 07-04-2019
Time = 21:00 UK time (21:00 GMT)
Track =Link (http://a.bosco.free.fr/gpl/montlhery66.htm)
Race length = 19
Laps (50 minutes)
Variant = 1967
60fps patch used   = 60fpsV2newmod
Damage Model = Intermediate
Qualifying time = 30-45 minutes

Driver lists and divisional rules can be found on the Championship Standings page  (https://www.simracing.org.uk/smf/index.php?action=LM2R&group=673&theme=6)

There is no Red Zone. Moderating will be on reported incidents only. Remember that lap 1 incidents carry an additional penalty place.

The chassis token system is explained on the championship standings page. Please ensure you choose a chassis that is within your budget, which can be seen by hovering the mouse over your points total in the standings.

Privateer Drivers are permitted 1 Shift R followed by a Stop & Go in the stalls in pit lane within 2 laps (its does not have to be your stall). Failure to make a stop will result in a 30 second time penalty. If you require a stop & go on the final lap & are unable to complete a time penalty of 15 secs is added.

Replays can be found by clicking on the link in the top left corner of the UKGPL homepage.

Please restrict chat to pit messages including at the end of the race until ALL drivers still racing have crossed the line.


Title: Re: UKGPL Season 34 (2019) 1967 F1 Privateers - Montlhéry - Apr 7
Post by: Billy Nobrakes on April 02, 2019, 05:34:28 PM +0100
Downloaded the track last night & found out there are some very tricky corners. The turn at the end of the main straight is like driving a race car on a roller coaster. Advice 1) practice & 2) avoid a big pile up on lap 1.


Title: Re: UKGPL Season 34 (2019) 1967 F1 Privateers - Montlhéry - Apr 7
Post by: Rainier on April 02, 2019, 05:47:07 PM +0100
The most dangerous place should be the exit of "cuvette de Couard" :

(http://a51.idata.over-blog.com/0/54/51/43/Cuvette-de-Couard--2-.jpg)


Title: Re: UKGPL Season 34 (2019) 1967 F1 Privateers - Montlhéry - Apr 7
Post by: EvilClive on April 02, 2019, 06:21:02 PM +0100
This track should be treated with great respect. I find it a cross between Monaco and Syracuse, witha touch of the Daytona banking thrown in for good measure.
 Do not be tempted to leap out of cuvette de Couard (the "bomb hole"), because you have far less than 50% chance of regaining control before the right hand bend that follows, a careful entry into it would be wise too.

Around the rest of the circuit there are walls and trees that can end your race too..............Just be careful guys if you want to reach the chequered flag.  ;)


Title: Re: UKGPL Season 34 (2019) 1967 F1 Privateers - Montlhéry - Apr 7
Post by: Rainier on April 02, 2019, 10:33:26 PM +0100
Around the rest of the circuit there are walls and trees that can end your race too............

That was the case in the real life too !
The picture under my nickname at the left was taken (...by me) at Montlhéry in 1971.


Title: Re: UKGPL Season 34 (2019) 1967 F1 Privateers - Montlhéry - Apr 7
Post by: bagrupp on April 03, 2019, 08:43:19 AM +0100
I never thought its you yourself, because you never crash  :)


Title: Re: UKGPL Season 34 (2019) 1967 F1 Privateers - Montlhéry - Apr 7
Post by: dave curtis on April 03, 2019, 10:44:57 PM +0100
Downloaded the track last night & found out there are some very tricky corners. The turn at the end of the main straight is like driving a race car on a roller coaster. Advice 1) practice & 2) avoid a big pile up on lap 1.

oh - bugger!
Despite having a server up for a while (although I forgot to set it again after some power maintenance earlier today...) I've not actually driven here yet.

Tomorrow then!  (Unlimited resets for Privs... right? :) )

Cheers,
Dave.


Title: Re: UKGPL Season 34 (2019) 1967 F1 Privateers - Montlhéry - Apr 7
Post by: DuFossa on April 06, 2019, 01:42:44 PM +0100
Hi. I applied and I would like to run tomorrow. But I can not see the password.


Title: Re: UKGPL Season 34 (2019) 1967 F1 Privateers - Montlhéry - Apr 7
Post by: Rainier on April 06, 2019, 01:51:09 PM +0100
Password not yet released.
At this time, you have to wait 7 hours.

(Look at the top of this topic)

did you vote for this series ?


Title: Re: UKGPL Season 34 (2019) 1967 F1 Privateers - Montlhéry - Apr 7
Post by: Billy Nobrakes on April 06, 2019, 09:01:51 PM +0100
Hi. I applied and I would like to run tomorrow. But I can not see the password.
You are registered - the password should be visible.


Title: Re: UKGPL Season 34 (2019) 1967 F1 Privateers - Montlhéry - Apr 7
Post by: Iestyn Davies on April 07, 2019, 09:02:22 PM +0100
Around the rest of the circuit there are walls and trees that can end your race too............

That was the case in the real life too !
The picture under my nickname at the left was taken (...by me) at Montlhéry in 1971.

Great picture David! Looks like the track is quite accurate to your picture as well.


Title: Re: UKGPL Season 34 (2019) 1967 F1 Privateers - Montlhéry - Apr 7
Post by: Billy Nobrakes on April 07, 2019, 10:09:05 PM +0100
Going well in practice during the week with 2,34 lap, but just didn't work on race day. Nice track but some of the corners are just too brutal.


Title: Re: UKGPL Season 34 (2019) 1967 F1 Privateers - Montlhéry - Apr 7
Post by: francesco on April 07, 2019, 10:48:14 PM +0100
In the S3467 i have experimented all the worst,missing gears,game block and this evening the car that  didn't want to go out from the pit at qualy finished.Pushing the esc-enter i was out from Igor,another race thrown away.


Title: Re: UKGPL Season 34 (2019) 1967 F1 Privateers - Montlhéry - Apr 7
Post by: dave curtis on April 07, 2019, 10:56:40 PM +0100
Server replay available from: https://www.sendspace.com/file/2njuai (https://www.sendspace.com/file/2njuai)




Title: Re: UKGPL Season 34 (2019) 1967 F1 Privateers - Montlhéry - Apr 7
Post by: Pepe Higdon on April 07, 2019, 11:07:04 PM +0100
. . . another race thrown away.

At least you had a chance to race. I didn't, because I stupidly believed that when the race schedule says GMT, it means GMT and not London time. So I dutifully showed up at five minutes before 2100 GMT and I see that the race is practically over. But this really is my fault, I think, because this isn't the first time this kind of crap has been pulled on me.

Unlike some of you guys, the only way I can stay even marginally competitive in this game is to practice my ass off. That doesn't mean downloading the track on the afternoon of the race and doing two practice laps. It means putting in 10-20 hours of serious effort, culminating in a full-length race against a complete field of AIs. I do this with a religious zeal in every race I enter both here and in oAo, and I've been following that custom for more than three years now.

So when I show up and am as ready as I can be, perhaps you can appreciate my frustration when you've begun the contest an hour earlier than you said you would.


Title: Re: UKGPL Season 34 (2019) 1967 F1 Privateers - Montlhéry - Apr 7
Post by: Phil Thornton on April 07, 2019, 11:20:30 PM +0100
Hi Pepe

Really sorry you missed the race. I appreciate that it isn't any consolation but all the races for the rest of the season will be at 21:30 BST (GMT + 1).

Regards

Phil


Title: Re: UKGPL Season 34 (2019) 1967 F1 Privateers - Montlhéry - Apr 7
Post by: Pepe Higdon on April 08, 2019, 01:22:06 AM +0100
Really sorry you missed the race.

I didn't miss the race. You missed telling me when the race would be. But I'll nonetheless treat your non-apology apology for what it's worth.


Title: Re: UKGPL Season 34 (2019) 1967 F1 Privateers - Montlhéry - Apr 7
Post by: Billy Nobrakes on April 08, 2019, 10:20:13 AM +0100
The timing would be down to me as I posted the race.

I have never really given this any thought as I am based in the UK & it's always local time for me. I think that most European countries change their clocks in March & October - I've really no idea if this happens in the Americas? Maybe the simple solution is to post all the races as "21.00 London time"?



Title: Re: UKGPL Season 34 (2019) 1967 F1 Privateers - Montlhéry - Apr 7
Post by: GregT on April 08, 2019, 05:47:14 PM +0100
Pepe, you have to pay closer attention when we switch to daylight savings time. The Europeans do it on a different date than we do. I'd guess the UK changed time within the last two weeks since this race started at what I'd call the usual time.


Title: Re: UKGPL Season 34 (2019) 1967 F1 Privateers - Montlhéry - Apr 7
Post by: Pepe Higdon on April 10, 2019, 02:31:15 AM +0100
Pepe, you have to pay closer attention when we switch to daylight savings time.

So this is my fault? The race board said the qualifying would start at 2100 GMT and it started earlier than that. Right, my bad for believing that when the web site says X I should have known that it meant Y.


Title: Re: UKGPL Season 34 (2019) 1967 F1 Privateers - Montlhéry - Apr 7
Post by: Phil Thornton on April 10, 2019, 06:41:21 AM +0100
The GMT/BST times are on the registration page (https://www.simracing.org.uk/smf/index.php?topic=15373.msg280087#msg280087)


Title: Re: UKGPL Season 34 (2019) 1967 F1 Privateers - Montlhéry - Apr 7
Post by: Rainier on April 10, 2019, 12:04:06 PM +0100
Pepe, you have to pay closer attention when we switch to daylight savings time.

So this is my fault? The race board said the qualifying would start at 2100 GMT and it started earlier than that. Right, my bad for believing that when the web site says X I should have known that it meant Y.


Too many fake news on Internet !


(sorry for my joke, I can understand your frustration)


Title: Re: UKGPL Season 34 (2019) 1967 F1 Privateers - Montlhéry - Apr 7
Post by: Pepe Higdon on April 10, 2019, 10:49:11 PM +0100
The GMT/BST times are on the registration page (https://www.simracing.org.uk/smf/index.php?topic=15373.msg280087#msg280087)

Why do you keep defending this plain error that caused me to miss this race? The announcement for this race on the page previous to this clearly states the time and zone when this event would commence:

Server = UKGPL10
IP = see iGOR
Race date = Sunday 07-04-2019
Time = 21:00 UK time (21:00 GMT) [Emphasis added]

Does that look to you like BST?

You --- and by that I mean the organizer(s) of UKGPL --- ********. You know it and so do I. You provided misinformation that I followed to my detriment. Rather than apologize to the only person who apparently has been aggrieved by your obvious error, you double down by telling me that I have to know when you change your clocks or that I have to look at some page that has different information. Why should I have to do any of that? All of the information I needed to know was provided on the previous page here, including the password. You wouldn't make the same argument if we were talking about a mistake in the date or the track, but you curiously dig in by appearing to claim that I should have known that GMT in this case really means BST. That might have some force if you were the Red Queen and I were Alice, but that's not true either.

You owe me a median score for that race, which is 25.5, but I'll settle for 25 even though it should be rounded up. If you won't do that, no worries. This is your league and your rules, and you can run it and interpret them however you may choose.


Title: Re: UKGPL Season 34 (2019) 1967 F1 Privateers - Montlhéry - Apr 7
Post by: bagrupp on April 11, 2019, 10:45:09 AM +0100
sorry pepe,

it might be a failure (i didn't prove) but it is neither fair or necessary to judge the people providing fun to us voluntalry.
It's just one race of dozens this year.


Title: Re: UKGPL Season 34 (2019) 1967 F1 Privateers - Montlhéry - Apr 7
Post by: Clive Loynes on April 11, 2019, 12:45:24 PM +0100
I feel for you Pepe, I've been there myself after hours of practice!

But could you please moderate the language?



Title: Re: UKGPL Season 34 (2019) 1967 F1 Privateers - Montlhéry - Apr 7
Post by: Pepe Higdon on April 11, 2019, 03:32:08 PM +0100
But could you please moderate the language?

You're right. I apologize. You'd think after 25 years of posting in internet forums that I'd have learned not to type when I'm angry and frustrated. Apparently that isn't yet the case with me.


Title: Re: UKGPL Season 34 (2019) 1967 F1 Privateers - Montlhéry - Apr 7
Post by: Rainier on April 11, 2019, 04:22:24 PM +0100

It's just one race of dozens this year.

I agree with Bastian.
And don't forget the 2 worst results will be discarded, and there are only 3 races until the end.