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Practice: 19:45 BST (30 mins)
Qual 2: 20:15 (15 mins)
Race: 20:30 ~ 30 Mins

Cars allowed: GTR4
Track: Chang Buriram
Time of Day Setting: 13:00
Weather: Dry

Start: Standing
Tyre wear: Normal
Fuel consumption:  OFF
Pit-stops: None required

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Kinda regretting my car choice in this series - the Evora is quick and easy to drive, but I had more fun in the KTM in the first race. Would it be ok to change back to that again? Happy to take a penalty of course.

Picnic seems unhappy with his choice as well. I think we drop the restriction. pick any car people want
no worries.

Ok thanks.

I am away for this event, so can someone join the server t 19:45? I should be able to restart the server just before then

Sorry Frex that I could not give you much of a race tonight, just could not get into a rhythm. Kept getting the lines through the corners wrong & using the wrong gear, was all over the place, gave up after 2nd crash.

Congrats to you & Bill.  :clap: :clap:

No probs Geoff. Shame though as we weren't far apart in practice, so hoping for a good race despite the low turnout. Congrats on your podium, and Bill for P2.

Thanks Geoff and frex. In practice I achieved my first timed lap after I changed my setup for last night. Previously the car was just not turning in but sliding over the track edge with track errors two or three times a lap.  ??? I joined last night more in hope than expecting to race! ::)

Well done Bill  ;D 3 people?  :o perhaps I should just pack it in and throw myself of a bridge...  ::)

Ah well, new season starts soon. If the next 3 series don't attract a few more people they will be the last ones
and Thursdays will be history. No point in running events if people are not interested.
I like these cars, but they are not so "historic" so I can see why they maybe don't get the love they deserve.
The next lot are all historic, and I think are a good set of cars, let's see  :chef:

Another apology, sorry for campaigning for these Matt. I quite enjoy them but have to admit they are not the most exciting cars to drive. Frex really seems to have got to grips with them but as far as the Lotus goes I can quite see why people don't seem interested, I am still finding it a struggle to overcome understeer with it, although I found well over a second in practice last night by making the front much softer. I still find it baffling how the guys at the top of the leaderboard can get these cars around here in the 1.42s!

If I had to choose between RRE & GTL, it would be GTL every time, the old cars are just so much more fun to drive. RRE needs more 60s & 70s cars to make it more interesting for me.

Maybe we should just abandon this series now & run the last two races for the Group C cars.

Sorry for not being there, I easily found an excuse  :-[ to do something else as I'm not enjoying these. I never got on with GTL. I often found the cars too unpredictable, tyre / brake temperatures I suspect, so I never knew when I could brake normally or early. And when I braked too late I always seemed to fall off and never scrub off enough speed to get around the corner however untidily. I'm a little worried the half baked tyre temperatures in RRE are going the same way.

I actually find the opposite, to me the RRE cars are unpredictable, I am constantly making errors under braking & running wide or turning in too early. But it maybe that as the cars are faster a slight error misjudging a braking point makes a bigger difference.

I have already created the Group C series: https://www.simracing.org.uk/smf/index.php?action=LM2R&group=682&theme=4
I could edit the 6 events and bring them all forward I guess. There will be a Capri series and another DTM92/Touring classics series
which will alternate between DTM92 and TC as they may change soon, and become less well matched groups.
The current Pork series can continue or not?

Hmm I'm sorry to hear that others are not enjoying these cars. I did find the Lotus a little dull compared to the KTM, but I didn't notice any major understeer in it as long as I was coming off the brake as I turned in, and I drive the KTM in a similar way. Maybe it's in the default setups, which can be very safe and understeery? I rarely go with the default - if I could post setups here I would, but I'm not sure how to do that? One thing to maybe try though is to reduce rear toe-in - I had close to zero here and the car turns in much the better for it (this works really well in the 964 too).

Having said all that though if ppl just prefer to give up with these, then I'm happy to move on to something else. I've not tried the Group C cars yet, but I'm sure they'll be fun too.

Thanks for one or two setup tips Frex, I suspect that most of my problems are of my own making, trying to set these modern cars up like the old stuff I'm used to in GTL & trying to drive them that way. Works not too bad on the 92DTM & Touring Classics cars but is most likely totally wrong for the GT4s & other modern cars (we won't mention Porkas  :laugh:).

I will go with whatever the populace wants  ::)

My preference is to run all the current series to their end, then start the new ones. It's difficult to find
new challenges for us with R3E, as there are only a few cars that are "historic", and the track choice, though good
does not really cater for the older layouts like Rouen etc.
In GTL and AC there are lots of mods to try, here there are non.

Having said that, I think that most of the R3E cars are more fun and tend to create closer racing than their counterparts in AC
which also has some superb cars to choose from. Just my preference. The KTM in this series is excellent, I agree the Lotus
is a bit sloppy, and the Pork is good but not my taste. The 964 is a little ponderous to me, but then I have to make Porks
very tame handling wise, so that may be all it is. The wide gear ratios doesn't help either.

The next series will be the Group C, and has already been done, and could be started anytime if people would prefer to do that.
There will be a Zakspeed Capri series because I like them, and the last time we did one it went well.
There will probably be a DTM92/Touring Classics alternating, so 3 of each in case they change the physics.

I have always wanted to run a series of open wheelers, but the idea has never got much love on here. I could run a
"Formula Ford" series using the Formula Junior R3E cars, SRW did that once, and it was ok, so that's an option.

There have been some recent changes in the game which might present some new challenges, and there are always further developments in the pipeline:

The recent BOP adjustment in Grp 5 has brought these cars a bit closer together - a Capri only series sounds good, but I'd also love to see how cars like the Greenwood Corvette match up now against the faster cars in the group. Something for the future maybe.

Similarly, as mentioned above, the BOP changes in the DTM and Touring Classics will rejuvenate the racing in those groups.

The F Junior has had a big update since we last raced it - I liked it before, but like it even better now.

Or alternatively, the F X-90 is due to be released very soon - a recreation of a Nineties F1 car with 3 different variants. Actually this doesn't greatly appeal to me tbh - fast open wheelers with short braking distances are not conducive to close racing imho. But I know some will like them.

BMW M1 Grp 4 version will come later in the year - this will join the 934, and other cars will be added to the group in due course. I know the 934 is not popular but a 934 vs M1 series could be fun..?

Or there's always the NSU - never gets old, and it's been awhile since we last did those!

Anyway, plenty to keep us busy I reckon.

I'll race any of the above if I'm around....work and play both get in the way of Thursday's racing.

The only car group I don't like is the GTO class, with the possible exception of the Mustang which is ok. I think giving the choice of a couple of Group 5 cars with the Capri is a good idea. The GTR4 cars are okay but not very exciting to race imo.

I'm looking forward to trying the 90's F1 car(s) as I have a particular penchant for that era. Just hope there is enough variation in the physics to distinguish each type without affecting their relative performance balance.

Is R3E doing 90s F1?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?time_continue=4&v=VmpmO4nlVZw

Due to be released as part of next update.....

OK, cool. But they have wings... I wanted to run the X17 cars, which are probably similar, but no one was interested.
Perhaps these will cause some interest?