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Normal race for the Division 1 cars.

Server info:
- Server Name: NoGrip Legacy TC Server
- Password: tc4ever


Event Info
Track: Cadwell Park.
Track download: *DOWNLOAD* (https://www.simracing.org.uk/smf/index.php?topic=3358.msg109873#post_cadwell)

Allowed Classes: Division 1 classes.

• under 850cc.
• 850 - 999cc.

Qualifying: 25 minutes, starts at 20:05 BST.
Race: Length 33 laps, starts at approx. 20:30  BST.
Scoring:

• Both classes score points separately. Winner of each class receives 9 points, 2nd in each class receives 8 points and so on and so forth.
• Overall winner of the race scores additional 1 point.
• Start in a class where driver has not started yet in this season, scores automatically 3 additional points.

Notes
- Normal race which takes about an hour. After Brno endurance, This track provides a complete different nature of racing.
- Due higher fuel consumption of 1000cc cars, they might require a single pit stop.


EDIT: Updated the race length to 33 laps. This should make the 850cc cars to be able to run the race without pitstops but 1000cc cars need one pitstop.

The 850cc Mini can only do 35 laps with a full tank  :-\

My extensive testing was not enough then it seems, or then I was just too tired.  850TC has the lowest range from 850ccs and I thought I checked that, but most likely I was too tired and some how mixed up the figures.
I'll check the lap count and announce it as soon as possible.

Updated the race length to 33 laps. This should make the 850cc cars to be able to run the race without pitstops but 1000cc cars need one pitstop.

Good plan :thumbup1:  Should make for an interesting event.

Server is up for testing. :)

I'm not feeling very well, probably coming down with something so I'd better skip this race, have a good one guys.

Get well soon mate!

Server is up. :)
Nocatu: hoping quick recovery for you.

Bugger, lost my screens (surge protector). It had to happen sometime.
Grads to pod and all finishers.

Thanks Nappi1 for the Series and congrats to the podium. Bad luck Dominick nothing worse than an equipment failure, particularly an intermittent one.

I had a mixed night, really got into grove in qualifying and the first two or three laps after an excellent start. Then out braked myself chasing Dominick and had to reverse onto track and get back up to speed. This allowed Bob to close up and start looking to pass and the gap fluctuated, got two cut track warnings in one lap so had to take a slightly different line through a couple of corners, eventually at the highest part of the track, I took too much kerb and executed a deadly Barrel Roll and rolled down to the lower part of the track, so I quit with one badly bent car.  ::)

Result (https://gtl-gtr2-racing.lima-city.de/NGLTC70_Event6_Cadwell_06052019)


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I mostly tested different setups in Sunday's server test session and while It did feel like a good setup and found way to drive lap so that the hairpin corner was only 2nd gear corner, I had no idea how it would compare to others. As Kurt had visit in test session as well, I shared the setup I had in that moment with him and while I did some small adjustments after that, I could not match my PB from Sunday (1:39.8xx) in Monday.


So based on runs I did on Sunday, I was expecting able to keep lap time average in 1:41.0. In qualify I was surprised to be on my own second. However as the other fast 850ccs were doing 1:41.lows, I did not expected the race be easy one. I did have guess that I might had picked up longer final gear than the others so It might mean some troubles on start.


Race started as well as it could have been. I did nearly perfect start and only evilClive passed me before the coppice corner, which meant that I just needed to keep close and try to overtake in front straight with the higher top speed. However when closing the mountain curves I was already very close and It strike me that Kurt told me in sunday that He somehow just could not drive the right hander of Mountain on 3rd gear full throttle... Could it be that driving those on 3rd was actually something? Oh yes. I was shocked how much of a difference driving line could make there. I had to go outside from very narrow line to overtake EvilClive as otherwise I would have simply hit him. Next I was worried about me to block him in Hall bends. My worries were not reduced a one bit when I saw EvilClive spin in hairpin corner and then vanish. :o It took me few laps to ensure myself that while I might be part of the happenings, There's no use of worrying it now. After race jury could do the possible penalties, but that is after the race ends.
 
After that I steady started to just beat lap after lap. I was surprised that I was able to do 1:40.5 as my lap average. It was about half a second faster than I was expecting forehand. Somewhere in around lap 20 I had lead over 30 seconds to next driver in same class, which was unheard thing to me. I started to wonder when I last time had some car physics work done ... Maybe I was racing with "accidentally cheating" car that I just could not remember to be editted. (after race I checked to physics file dates and they are exactly same as in car pack so my mind was again just playing games with me. I also watched the replay from bird eye view about what happened to EvilClive and was at least bit relieved. ) Somehow I was able to suppress these ideas as well and keep my concentration locked to main thing.
 
In the end of lap 30, Markus was close to lap me second time, so just after finish line I turned xd display on (I race xd display set off as it provides too much of information to my engineer mind who loves some statistics.) to see if Markus already finished the race and it was close that I did not crashed as I accidentally drove off road on right shoulder. Luckily I did not do anything too hasty but lifted off gas and slowly got back on track. I once more recalled concentration and drove last lap steadily to the finish. :)

Thanks everyone joining for this race and Markus for the Overall & 1000cc class win. :)
 

grats to all.

That was a very short 1 hr race for me  :-\.  Less than 1 lap !!!

As has already been said, I got a great start and was feeling quite chuffed with myself as I was driving a Mini...a car that always defeats me.

You were in no way to blame for my early exit Nappe, I clipped a grass bank and lost control at the hairpin. Hitting the barriers was bad enough, but when I reversed so that I could rejoin....I floated off to La La Land  ??? So that was race over for me.

Frightened that I could participate during free practice as I found myself offline /alone on the server three times without noticing it  ???.
During one of these involuntary offs I obtained a new pb of 1:40.8 which I would never reach again during the event.

After my usual lousy start I dropped to last and really wasn't motivated to go on as I didn't believe to pass all the 850 guys in front of me  ;D
But during lap 14 I was back in 6th place after some eventful laps. I was surprised that - although I was unable to master The Mountain in third gear (as Nappe said) -
I could pass Suti in the Suzuki with an enormous excess speed there. After I could pass Mike, who seemed to have some slower laps througout the first half of the race,
I had a silent and lonely race right in the middle of nowhere controlling the distance to the guys behind and steadily loosing seconds to Nappe who was unreachable in the
fastest Mini  :thumbup1: . Glad to be able to finish the race without any of my usual severe mistakes.

Thanks Nappe for uploading your setup- which was working perfectly for me.  :thumbup2: - and for organizing this stunning series  8)

CU next week.

OK. Confused from Bristol here.............................. ???

We will quickly pass over my useless driving at Cadwell and move on to a more perplexing problem that I have.

The Mini has been a car that I have struggled with ever since I started racing in GTL. I know that some of you love it and extract very respectable pace from the little box, but I cannot find any consistant pace with that car in any of it's forms from 850cc-1275cc.

But as I am obviously a masochist  ::) I opted to try again at Cadwell. I did my usual offline check and ran the circuit and car over the weekend in an attempt to tweak the setup ( again!) and then I did a quick dip into the online server just to check that there were no glitches. I did not bother with any laps on the server, I simply loaded the track and selected the Mini before driving out of the pits and quitting.
Everything appeared OK for the race, so I was content.

Then I read Tony's post about the number of laps that he could extract from the 850 Mini ( only 35???!!) I was getting an indicated 48??? Was Tony running much lower gear ratios?  I was a little baffled as my gearing seemed about right with the dashboard warning light illuminating at the end of the long fast sections in 4th gear. Also I was sure that I had been posting laps offline of 1:35, with definite room for improvement. I was stumped when I joined the race server on Monday and found that I could not get the car below 1:42?????
That was such a colossal difference that I went back and checked that I had the correct car and the right setup  :D. I even tried changing my gear ratios to see if I could uncover that lost time. Of course, the harder that I tried to go faster the slower I was........but 7 seconds was an insane amount to lose.
Other than my lack of skill ( which is legendary ) ...any suggestions for these anomolies?

This is one track I really love. With its fast section, the technical last sector and  the elevations it is fun driving here. And the Escort loves this track too. From my base setup I only had to adjust the gearing and the damper to gain a little more traction on corner 12, the small uphill passage at the mountain. I expected tire wear to be not a big problem, since the race is only one hour. In my test sessions I was able to drive 1.32,5, with some space left. In the qualy I could mark a new pb with just under 1.32.
The race start was critical, as I am not a good starter and the Escort isn`t too. There is not torque and no traction. The Abarth is a rocket from the start in comparison to the Escort. Luckily Salesman had a slight problem and I was the first to reach the first corner. I could gain some additional time in the first lap. After that I could concentrate on my own race. I hope I did not disturb anyones racing when I was lapping you.
This time my pit stop went well, I came way early and fueled 10 Liters to have enough for the last laps. I lost  about 20 seconds due to the pit stop. The last laps went well and I could win this race.
I still do not understand why no one takes the Escort, the Abarth may be quicker but the Escort is great fun to drive. Espacially the Div1 and the Div3 cars. The Div2 Escort (the bigger one with 1.6 Litre engine) is a little tricky. Try them out ;-)

Grats to all participants and thanks Nappe for organizing and grats to his win in his class!!

Does the car have different rev limit and/or full tank size online and offline? 1970 850cc should have 30 liters tank and 48 laps seems to indicate 50 liters tank... Also post maximum rpm of the engine and how many final gear ratios you have in setup screen when using 850cc Mini offline.

After checking these, I will help you to isolate the other car that might be the reason for this, but let's see if there's clear indications of this. :)

It is theoretically possible to have conflict when 2 skins have has exactly same .car ending filename. That case offline race you are not racing with 850cc Mini but something else having exact same skin filename. GTL can mix these up in some occasions though it is very rare problem.

Thanks Nappe.
I will check out your comments, no time today, so maybe tomorrow and get back to you.  ;)