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Title: UKGPL Season 34 (2019) 1955 Grand Prix - Monza - May 12
Post by: Phil Thornton on May 10, 2019, 02:21:56 PM +0100
Season 34 – 1955 Grand Prix – Round 8 – Monza 10K

The eighth race in the 1955 Grand Prix series takes us to the Cathedral of Speed in Italy. The Autodromo Nazionale Monza is a race track located near the city of Monza, north of Milan.  Built in the Royal Villa of Monza park in a woodland setting, the circuit has gone through numerous changes over the years.  Perhaps the most striking feature in the park is the steep banked (sopraelevata) curves on the now defunct 10Km variant, first used in 1955.  The original circuit (used between 1922 and 1933) also had an oval section but the banked curves were not as wide or as steep as the later 1955 variant.  The banked circuit was used on four occasions for Formula 1 races; in 1955, 1956, 1960 and finally in 1961 when it was decided that Formula 1 cars were just too fast to be safe on the oval track.   The banked oval section was last used in any capacity in 1969.  From 1962 onwards, the Formula 1 Grand Prix was held on the "road circuit" which by the early 1970s was also deemed to be too fast for Formula 1 cars.  Two chicanes were introduced for 1972 Italian Grand Prix, one at the Ascari curve and another on the approach to the Curva Grande.  Tonight we will relive the dramatic race in 1955 on the full 10Km circuit complete with steep bankings and no chicanes. The full time drivers can start to practice as soon as the server is available.  Reserve drivers can also join as soon as the server becomes available but must leave the server with 35 minutes of qualifying left, for a total of 5 minutes; this will allow any remaining full timers to join.  If there is enough space on the grid, the reserve drivers will be able to rejoin when there are 30 mins of qualifying left.  
 
Please read the championship specific rules on the championship standings page (https://www.simracing.org.uk/smf/index.php?action=LM2R&group=664&theme=6).

Race listiGOR
ServerUKGPL_4
IP address46.69.108.161
Date12-05-2019
TrackMonza 10K (http://srmz.net/index.php?showtopic=9323%20%20%20http://www.dixierunners.speedgeezers.net/monza10k/)
Mod55GP with 60fpsV2newmod
Damage PRO long
Race time~ 21:30 UK time (BST, GMT + 1)
Qualifying 45 minutes @ 20:45 UK time (BST, GMT + 1)
Race length17 laps
Replay here (ftp://ftp.ukgpl9.co.uk:32122/Season34/55GP)

If the official replay site is unavailable, the server replay can be downloaded from this temporary location (https://drive.google.com/file/d/1M7t4-o1y-hjtVFdAfMm1bFyJahhaU8F0/view?usp=sharing).

Please restrict chat to emergency messages only including at the end of the race until ALL drivers still racing have crossed the line.

Password: see above (#post_event_password)
Driver lists can be found on the championship standings page (https://www.simracing.org.uk/smf/index.php?action=LM2R&group=664&theme=6)

Handicapping and chassis allocation.
This season the 1955 Grand Prix cars will again be using a token system which allows drivers to purchase any chassis of their choice for a given number of tokens as published on the championship standings page (https://www.simracing.org.uk/smf/index.php?action=LM2R&group=664&theme=6). Drivers classed as Amateurs will be allocated an additional 10 tokens.  The token allocation will not be managed in SRou this season so (unlike the 67F1 Works and 67F1 Privateer divisions) the tokens available to each driver will not appear in the championship table (when the mouse pointer is hovered over the driver's total).  Rather, the available tokens will be published in the race announcement. See table below.

Available Tokens:
Note: These are the tokens available to each driver before the 10 tokens are added for making the race start.

Driver        Tokens  Status
Alessandro Isacchini
13
Pro
bagrupp
5
Pro
Clive Loynes
20
Pro
Cookie
22
Pro
DLogan
5
Pro
EvilClive
31
Pro
fpolicardi
0
Pro
Gareth
5
Pro
Jeep
0
Pro
uli
6
Pro
francesco
15
Am
Phil Thornton
22
Am
Rich Welsh
18
Am
tagomago
80
Am


Title: Re: UKGPL Season 34 (2019) 1955 Grand Prix - Monza - May 12
Post by: Clive Loynes on May 10, 2019, 10:07:41 PM +0100
Thank goodness for that!

It's been soooooo long since the last gallop that I've almost forgotten how to join the server!   ::)  Was it Control/Alt/Delete?


Title: Re: UKGPL Season 34 (2019) 1955 Grand Prix - Monza - May 12
Post by: EvilClive on May 11, 2019, 09:12:47 AM +0100
Oh yes Clive, that's almost correct!! :) At your age it is understandable that your memory is a little cloudy after such a long break in the schedule, and we should do all we can to help.

  When the qualifying session ends and you see the green button light up, that is when you need to hit "CTRL-ALT-DEL".  ;D

I hope that all is clear now  :shifty:


Title: Re: UKGPL Season 34 (2019) 1955 Grand Prix - Monza - May 12
Post by: Clive Loynes on May 12, 2019, 09:36:45 AM +0100
Oh yes Clive, that's almost correct!! :) At your age it is understandable that your memory is a little cloudy after such a long break in the schedule, and we should do all we can to help.

  When the qualifying session ends and you see the green button light up, that is when you need to hit "CTRL-ALT-DEL".  ;D

I hope that all is clear now  :shifty:

Just as I expected.   ::)

Beware the Wazza giving advice!


Title: Re: UKGPL Season 34 (2019) 1955 Grand Prix - Monza - May 12
Post by: Phil Thornton on May 12, 2019, 06:54:00 PM +0100
Practice server is up. Please check your connections.


Title: Re: UKGPL Season 34 (2019) 1955 Grand Prix - Monza - May 12
Post by: Cookie on May 12, 2019, 07:39:32 PM +0100
Practice server is up. Please check your connections.

ATM I see no UKGPL_4 at iGOR... ::)


Title: Re: UKGPL Season 34 (2019) 1955 Grand Prix - Monza - May 12
Post by: Clive Loynes on May 12, 2019, 08:22:10 PM +0100
Practice server is up. Please check your connections.

ATM I see no UKGPL_4 at iGOR... ::)

Me neither  ;-)


Title: Re: UKGPL Season 34 (2019) 1955 Grand Prix - Monza - May 12
Post by: Phil Thornton on May 12, 2019, 08:29:04 PM +0100
Sorry server locked up. Restarted it.


Title: Re: UKGPL Season 34 (2019) 1955 Grand Prix - Monza - May 12
Post by: Clive Loynes on May 12, 2019, 08:31:30 PM +0100
Now I see it!  ;D


Title: Re: UKGPL Season 34 (2019) 1955 Grand Prix - Monza - May 12
Post by: francesco on May 12, 2019, 09:35:48 PM +0100
Bad luck haunting me.At the end of the qualification GPL stop to work,i try to reenter immediately but infortunately was with a Lancia,no time to change the car.


Title: Re: UKGPL Season 34 (2019) 1955 Grand Prix - Monza - May 12
Post by: Clive Loynes on May 12, 2019, 10:26:55 PM +0100
Bad luck haunting me.At the end of the qualification GPL stop to work,i try to reenter immediately but infortunately was with a Lancia,no time to change the car.

Hard luck Fran


Title: Re: UKGPL Season 34 (2019) 1955 Grand Prix - Monza - May 12
Post by: tagomago on May 12, 2019, 10:32:56 PM +0100
wowowowow  ;D happy finishing at Monza with my beloved gordini

Spanish version of the paper

(http://boxes.gaiztor.com/img/20190512_UKgpl_Monza_paper.PNG)

Grats podium specially Clive with his win and thx all for racing  :laugh:


Title: Re: UKGPL Season 34 (2019) 1955 Grand Prix - Monza - May 12
Post by: Phil Thornton on May 12, 2019, 10:48:17 PM +0100
I've loaded the chassis the drivers used into the token calculator spreadsheet.  For the next race the available tokens will be as declared in the table below (the table will also appear in the next race announcement).  The calculated values are automated but selecting the cars is a manual process so please check your tokens to make sure I haven't made a silly error.  There was no token overspend for this round so no one is disqualified.

Driver        Tokens  Status
Alessandro Isacchini
13
Pro
bagrupp
0
Pro
Clive Loynes
10
Pro
Cookie
12
Pro
DLogan
5
Pro
EvilClive
26
Pro
fpolicardi
0
Pro
Gareth
5
Pro
Jeep
0
Pro
uli
6
Pro
francesco
15
Am
Phil Thornton
12
Am
Rich Welsh
18
Am
tagomago
90
Am


Title: Re: UKGPL Season 34 (2019) 1955 Grand Prix - Monza - May 12
Post by: Phil Thornton on May 12, 2019, 11:00:27 PM +0100
Quite an exciting race for me, especially on lap 6 when 4 of us were heading for the second banking. I almost pulled out of Bastian's slipstream but I was trying to work out where Clive was. Luckily I caught a glimpse of a silver mudguard in my mirror and I backed off. It was quite hard slowing the SL down for the parabolica and when dicing with Bastian for second place in the closing stages I missed a gear and without brakes (red light on) and no engine braking I ran wide. Fortunately I had enough of a gap to retain third place but I had no chance of catching Bastian.

Grats to Clive on the win and to Bastian securing second place in the Lancia. Bad luck Cookie and Fran, you both deserved better than that.


Title: Re: UKGPL Season 34 (2019) 1955 Grand Prix - Monza - May 12
Post by: Cookie on May 12, 2019, 11:11:59 PM +0100
Strange, my clutch exploded at the exit of the Para :o (this  is what I read in game comment)

Yesterday I had tortured the car way more in practice without failure...



Title: Re: UKGPL Season 34 (2019) 1955 Grand Prix - Monza - May 12
Post by: uli on May 12, 2019, 11:24:42 PM +0100
Was not my race, I only made my job ;) and was bored a lot of time, also to much in the green at parabo, 20 litres left at the finish line and fps probs again (min 43!), but doesn‘t matter at all the result looks ok, GRATS podium hope you had more fun, cu next


Title: Re: UKGPL Season 34 (2019) 1955 Grand Prix - Monza - May 12
Post by: fpolicardi on May 13, 2019, 12:25:45 AM +0100
I had a brain fade braking on Para L3 worrying for a fps drop at Ascari, so I was more fast slipstreaming the cars ahead and when I braked to not rear end Bastian I looked wheels and soon no more brake at all so  I aimed inside towards the rail to slow down my car and bounced outside luckily not hitting anyone, but loosing a wheel in the process.
 Not happy  :'(
Ciao


Title: Re: UKGPL Season 34 (2019) 1955 Grand Prix - Monza - May 12
Post by: bagrupp on May 13, 2019, 09:58:36 AM +0100
Good fights...after exiting myself in dundrod and got exited on IMS, i wanted to finish and drove carefully.

I saw Fulvio Para L3 flying to the inside and suspected, he will not hold it. bad luck for you, i hesitated to turn in, good decisions.
Bad Luck on the engine Axel, nice drive clive.

Good fight Phil, i was very in fear you close the gap in the last lap again, its so much faster on the straight.

Bad decision wasting points in IMS because of the crash, did not have more tokens for Monza. Will be spending nothing for Bremgarten.


Title: Re: UKGPL Season 34 (2019) 1955 Grand Prix - Monza - May 12
Post by: EvilClive on May 13, 2019, 10:46:35 AM +0100
Returned home late from a visit to Pembrey circuit in South Wales with Andy Livingston, rather tired and developing a nice red glow  ::)

The decision to join the server was made with about 10 mins to the start. Then I realised that I needed to choose a chassis??? My trusty Connaught was going to be severley outclassed around Monza10k. I recalled trying the Lancia a while back, but seemed to recall that I had loaded too much fuel and the gearing had been wrong.
But with only 7 mins of qually left, there was no time to do much. I opted to leave the fuel...better too much than too little ??,So I upped 4th gear one notch and dropped 5th by one notch to try and sort the ratios.
One qually lap placed me last on the grid, but I had managed to slipstream Fulvio and felt that I had improved the gearing. However after a good start I found myself dicing with Phil's silver aircraft carrier and I discovered that although my gearing was great for following Fulvio's Ferrari, it was looking decidedly vulnerable trying to tail those Mercs. With a full tow around the banking I was running perilously close to the red line for extended periods  :o

Axel and Mr Loynes were ahead and looked like they were going to escape. Try as I might around the twisty bits to make up ground, and grabbing the tow from Phil's high speed Merc on the fast sections it was no good. Bastian joined Phil and myself in his Lancia and a 3 way battle developed. Then Axel and Clive explored the kitty litter at Parabolica and as we turned into the pit straight I was leading!!! :o
That did not last long as Phil simply blew past in his Slipstreamer like I had the brakes on  :-\
For a few laps it was ...follow Phil for the fast bits and pass him in the corners with Bastian close behind. But the thing that was worrying me  (on Prib) most was a pair of Sipstreamers that were catching our little duel   :-\ Axel and Clive had recovered and closing at an alarming rate!!
Suddenly we were a group of 5 cars, 2 Lancias and 3 Mercs  :o and things got very tight at the corners with those heavy, clumsy Mercs blocking the road for the elegantly balanced and nimble Lancias. But on the straights it was a desperate fight to hang on to the silver coat tails....geez but they were quick!!! Then Axel's car exploded right out side the pits ( at least it saved him a longg walk home  ::) ) So 4 cars left in the leading group 2 Mercs, 2 Lancias. Hmmmmmmmmmmm.
I was aware of the braking issues for the Mercs after the first laps they needed to drop anchors much earlier than the Lancias and so I found it easy to close any gap, or even sneak past, at Parabolica especially....until I followed Phil too deep in the slipstream and missed my braking point  by about 5mtrs.
 A run through the gravel allowed the other 3 escape beyond slipstream range  :( . I was hoping that they might slow themselves down a little by fighting over places but despite putting in a few laps that were faster than any others I had managed without a tow, I was losing ground.
I suspect that all the early high speed slipstreaming and a few laps pushing very hard proved too much for the engine and I experienced that moment of perfect inner peace and tranquility as  swept out of Ascari, just when the engine fell silent  :-\.
It was great fun whilst it lasted but I could not see a way of beating those Mercs to the finish line off the banking on the final lap, they were just too fast.
Grats to Clive , Bastian and Phil and all finishers and to brave Tago who got the Gordini to the flag..... again  ;)



Title: Re: UKGPL Season 34 (2019) 1955 Grand Prix - Monza - May 12
Post by: Clive Loynes on May 13, 2019, 11:13:26 AM +0100
I think that I was a bit lucky to take that one on two counts, 1) my pirouet through the sand at Paraboica after colliding with Axel and 2) Axel's clutch giving up.  Hard luck Axel.

Congratulations to Bastian and Phil for their podiums.

I had a good start but Axel had shown what speed he had in qually so I knew that it was going to be a struggle.
I still had the lead after lap one but Axel passed me on the way to Curva Grande.  That meant that I was following him through the Lesmos and it is always difficult not to dab the brakes a tad more in that situation.

I followed him towards Parabolica with the intention of backing off early and following him.  I lifted early but then found the rear of his car coming back towards me at an alarming rate.  Instead of being able to coast and change down and then brake at lower speed I had to use my brakes to avoid rear ending him!  The brakes are marginal at the best of times when trying to slow down the SL for Parabolica and I ran out before I had slowed down enough.  I tried to keep it tight but over did it and clipped the curb.  That threw me across the road into Axel's path.  We both had a trip through the sand but since we were not carrying any extra speed we were able to drive out again without losing any wheels.  Axel emerged in 4th spot and I ended up in 7th, just behind Uli.  Sorry for being so clumsy.  

After that it was a case of catching and passing anything that I could.  At that time I considered Axel to be long gone.
Phil, Bastian and Evil had grouped themselves together nicely for me to be able to nab them all at one go as we approached the South Banking, thanks to Phil for not pulling out as I got level.  However, with the slipstream effect I was still very much in a battle over the next few laps.  I decided that it was safer to approach Parabolica on the inside line, so that nobody could try to out brake me up the inside.  When they do that and get it wrong then they take you with them.

I think that Evil went off at Parabolica.

After that it was a case of trying to slowly edge away from Phil and Bastian.  

I did a good deal of the race all on my own but I can't say that keeping the big silver beast on the grey bit was boring!  Over the last two laps I nearly gave victory to Bastian as I scraped the Armco at Curva Grande and then almost had a spin at Parabolica.  It's an age thing!   ;D

See you all at Bremgarten.

PS  Congrats to Tago on bringing the Gordini home and to Phil for fastest lap.


Title: Re: UKGPL Season 34 (2019) 1955 Grand Prix - Monza - May 12
Post by: Clive Loynes on May 19, 2019, 07:43:42 PM +0100
As Phil requested, here is some race footage.

After Axel's clutch gave in, it was laps six to eight that sorted the result.....

http://www.planet-venom.co.uk/gpl/GPL55/Monza10K.mp4

I had wanted to cover Evil's exit a tad better but I lost track of which buttons to click.