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Round 1 - Riverside



July 17th - Password entry (on day of race)

Practise: 19:30 (45mins)
Qual: 20:15(15 mins)
Race: 20:30   40 minutes

Cars allowed:
Lola Mk2
Link:- https://www.racedepartment.com/downloads/lola-t70-mkii-spyder-rf2.16043/ (https://www.racedepartment.com/downloads/lola-t70-mkii-spyder-rf2.16043/)

Track:  Riverside (http://www.racedepartment.com/downloads/riverside-international-raceway.9492/)


Live Timing: stracker.simracing.org.uk:50041/lapstat (http://stracker.simracing.org.uk:50041/lapstat)

Time of Day Setting: 16:00
Weather: Clear
Start: Standing
Tyre wear: Normal
Fuel consumption: Normal
Pit-stops: Not required

Server track settings:
SESSION_START=100
RANDOMNESS=0
LAP_GAIN=0
SESSION_TRANSFER=N/a

Damage: 70%

PLP App - Not used in this series. Cutting will be monitored on replay and penalties issued for excessive cutting.

Notes:
(1) Please make sure you are fully aware of the UKGTR Rules (https://www.simracing.org.uk/smf/index.php?topic=3349.0)
(2) Driver lists can be found on the championship standings page

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Practice server is up, any problems please speak up.

thanks Pete.  :)

Same Riverside and Lola mod car we have used before so if you already have them you dont need to re-download. (though always worth checking you can get on the server).

I get password not accepted for the usual practice pw.

I also can't make this race  :P

Sorry I forgot to clear the password from the last event  :-[ Restarted without one.

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anyone done any practice yet ???

I did some laps.

I did a handful of recon laps, car and track are a nice combo  :)

Must admit I hadn't realised it was this week - I'll have to practice tonight as I'm out picking my legacy up from a service after work tomorrow..

Tyres take 3 laps to come alive and bite, its very understeery before that. Feels great in sector 1 once the grips there.  I was hoping to get on the server tonight but looks like I’m out this eve   :(

Meh, just meh. I have absolutely no pace in that, chevy has no front end and I cant get through the 1st sector at all, and the ford is too gutless to win ???


I'm totally confused, I tested at mosport and matched FMG / Fabri times from the race you did,  but at riverside I'm 2secs off  :o

My setup is near to one for Mosport, just different gears, and it works. But after have talk with fmg, tomorrow I will try a setup a bit soften.

i got some late laps in and knocked a second off my times but still 2 secs behind fmg and fabri  :'( 

Riverside is hugely technical in cars that aren't neutral in handling - and CanAm cars were always massively understeery in order to put their power down..
You can remove the heavy understeer but in my experience it doesn't make you any faster as you lose so much time entering the straights.

I suspect a lot of Fabri and my advantage is down to the Gpl67 race we had here recently, we must know the track much better than anyone else can reasonably hope to without a lot of practice.

I did watch onboard with you a bit before leaving last night, when I was watching you often seemed to try and carry too much speed through the fast corners - this would then throw you wide and mess your line up for the rest of the run to the first hairpin.
Even a small mistake through T2 can cost nearly a second in overall lap pace because of this.

LOL yeh,  I don't think I ever hit any of those turns right even on my better laps.  I looked on stracker and you carry so much more speed from T2 to the top of the hill,  if I try that I'm off into the desert  :D

Its weird though, at mosport although the front didn't have much grip it was easy to hook the corners up and the car felt good, but riverside aint working at all and it just feels a mess.  I will try and find some time to practice a bit more before the race...

Oh great, fmg and fabri have had heaps of practise here in a 60's f1 car  :surrender:  so us mortals will be fighting over the scraps more than normal  ;D

oh well maybe i can give Max a harder time for a change  :devil:  ;)  I love this track with historic race cars, just never seem to have enough spare time to really do it justice.

While the track layout is in your head, take the 917-30 for a spin and then turn the boost up to 11!  ;D

As a hint, you'll need to gear 4th for about 230.....

I hope you do, but you better be wearing your lucky pants...

I improved a bit: soften up is better.

oh boy  8)


softer dampers Fabri?

Yes. 3-4 front and 5-7 rear.

thanks  :thumbup1:

I already had them at that  :helpsmilie: :boat:  :'(

In the Aero setup was a device called a Fender Mirror. What does that do?

Fender Mirror is the right mirror, it can be round or square. I think only an aesthetic thing.

My race was tougher than expected, getting a second place that is a little tight. In fact during practice I did good lap-times.
I started bad from pole position, I have no idea how manage all this torque. ;D In any case I stayed ahead of fmg (my pilot-reference for this race). I did the first two laps really slowly to warm up the tires and get feeling with the fuel weight. Max took a little advantage, but I was confident to closing the gap in few laps.
This was not possible, Max's pace was remarkably fast and when I tried push more, I made several mistakes, especially at the hairpin. My brake balance was not perfect with fuel.
I fought a bit with fmg, but then he had problems with the steering wheel and I was able to return to second position. Before the race ended, with tires quite worn out, I did other mistakes to collect more sand.  :)

Congratulations to everyone, especially to Max for the great race!

10 pilots in server, better than I thought.

PS: Lola Ford is half second slower.

Thanks

Cool, then I'll only be 3.5 secs off the pace instead or 4 ;)

ultimately a frustrating night for me. Held 4th the whole race with a comfortable 10-12 sec gap back to 5th, but then started really suffering in the heat with my rift and the usual eye strain with 10 mins to go. It got steadily worst and when with only a few minutes to go, i ran a little wide at T2 and tried to drift back onto track with minimum input, the car went into a double 360 degree spin up and down the embankment. The spinning scenery combined with the VR meant i felt really nauseous and struggled not to throw up  :scared: Got total motion sickness from that episode.  :(

Worst was that i lost my solid 4th place to Stefan :taz:

Tough event with 40mins in an understeery beast in the heat. Much as i love the track i genuinely hate that one off camber hairpin corner round the back of the circuit before the long drag. Lost count of the amount of times i was clumsy through there.  :nono:

Decent turn out, i was pleasantly surprised  :thumbup1: and well done to the 3 fast guys up front, including Max 'Sandbagger' Veloce, obviously learnt his pre-race talk from Lewis Hamilton and Merc F1  :laugh:

I just didnt get enough practise in to start tweaking the car (due to RL) so be interested to know what you front 3 did to gain time here. I think my gears were all too short ultimately, so i was probably losing torque.

I remember watching an F1 programme once and the reporter was lucky enough to have a go in their motion sim. First thing he was told was if you spin shut your eyes or you'll get motion sickness.

It was hot in the Rift last night for sure, I've got a fan pointed at my noggins but that seemed too little last night.

P.S. If you spin off as often as I do you can keep yours eyes open  ::)

I enjoyed that, the Ford is so off pace I had to push like crazy all race just to keep Fabri and Max in view.
This all came to nothing when my wheel came loose in the closing stages.
Never mind, I was never going to win in that car - and Fabri would most likely have needed another mistake for me to have kept 2nd anyway.

the Bridge should be much more equal though, one thing Riverside highlighted was how much quicker the Ford is in the twisty bits!

I also took the sounds from the Mustang 302r and used them to replace the not-so-good default ford sounds.
It's perfect now (i'm sure this version of the car is based on something like a 302 anyway).
The problem is I now need a better 'big' V8 for the Chevy...

Shame Ford sounds off pace, as it felt a lot nicer to drive when I tested it. The other one is way too floaty in terms of feel IMO.

pfft,  IDK what to say really.  Congrats to Fabri on his single lap pace, into the 1.39s is impressive, a good half a second beyond my fastest lap, and I'm sure if  FMG had the chevy motor he'd prolly have done the same, so I was pretty happy come qually to get within a few tenths and take 2nd - it was only then I realized FMG was running the Ford  :o

I had to go back and watch the replay to see how I got the lead at the start,  I had to laugh because we both left the line quite well and then did the exact same thing with a huge sideways moment as the tyres started to grip and torque decided it wanted us to go sunbathe in the sand. I was lucky and caught it quicker, giving me the lead. I could see FMG right on Fabri in the opening lap and just tried to drive a clean lap hoping to break any tow. It worked and honestly I didn't think it would last, expecting a flying italian to come at me, so I just concentrated on driving clean smooth laps. I did pretty well at that, messed up T2 once which put me out for the whole run up the hill, and then late in the race as I was catching Frex to lap him he went wide at T8 into the sand and I followed him in, loosing a couple of seconds  :D


Next race I'm taking the same car as FMG in the hope it makes a closer race, (maybe Fabri will do the same) so if we can agree in advance which that is I'm in  :)


:P


I can send you mine if you want to see/try it...

At Mosport you guys were saying the Ford was equal with the Chevy so took your word for it and never even tried it.  :P  Might suit me better as i prefer handling over horsepower.  The Chevy felt clumsy in the slower corners.  This track proved that you quicker guys can afford less bhp to the rest of us  ;)

I actually kept in view with the front few for about 10mins (albeit a few secs back) until i caught a very early backmarker and then i kept following him onto the sand at that flipping hairpin  :laugh: amazing how you can be drawn into someone else's error sometimes..

As much as i love the immersion of the Rift in these old open top classics, i might have to slum it with monitors during the summer but will try a fan in the face first for that summer breeze open top car realism. All i needed was someone throwing sand in my face for the ultimate immersion  ;D

Looked like there was some good racing going on further back, i kept looking across the open ground to see 3 cars in close formation coming around the track. Shame they werent nearer me for some action, as i had a lonely race in 4th.

You could have dropped back to join us..  ;)

Enjoyed that, except for the first lap when I rear-ended Ceolmor coming out onto the back straight, very sorry for that. I thought I had left enough room through the corner before accelerating, but I closed on you so fast I guess not. Sorry also that you got punted so far out into the dirt - by the time we got going again the other cars were long gone, so messed up both our races. Despite that, had some fun later with kimi and lade, but a few errors late in the race dropped me back down the order again.

Congrats podium.

Been a while since I raced with you guys.  Infact, been a while since I did any proper online racing, so I really enjoyed last night.  I expected to come last, so the race lived up to my expectations!

The bump from Frex was the least of my problems.  It was very good of you to wait and I'm sorry it took me so long to get back on the track.  Shortly afterwards I had an issue with a USB cable which required me to park the car in the grass and by the time I had sorted it I was being lapped.  Things then settled down and I was lapping behind two cars that had lapped me (I'm in VR so no idea who) but I still made too any mistakes.  To cap it all, on what turned out to be my last lap I glanced the armco on the left coming out of the final bend, and got pipped over the line by Max Veloce, to put me two laps down on the winner.

But it was good fun, so thanks everyone for the race.

apologies by the way to Frex and Ceolmor, i shared a setup with Pete as i saw he was down on the laptimes and would have shared it with you guys also if i had realised you were both in the same predicament. My stracker was playing up and my menus were tiny for some reason so thought you were both higher up the laptime leaderboard than i knew.
Though no way perfect, my setup was a definite improvement over the standard one here.  I also think our faster guys could send setups to drivers struggling (via stracker) to help improve the racing.  :angel:  (doesnt have to be to all, can send direct to particular drivers).

That was kind of you, shame I never noticed :-[ Do I get a notification when someone does this or do I have to actively look? Also, was it a Ford setup you shared? I see you were driving the Chevy.

Talking of not seeing driver's names in VR I had some other issue I'd never seen before last night. During qualifying the screen changed subtly after which when I pressed ESC to go back to the pits all I could see was "Res" right down bottom right of where the rift would let me look. Also the red column where you go drive or change the setup was now not tall enough so I could see the quit button at the bottom.

That would be much appreciated for future events.  :)  Try as I may, I really struggle with understanding setups, beyond the very basics.  With this group it sometimes feels like I'm racing against a bunch of F1 engineers.

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but really, I didn't change a huge amount,  tyre pressures obviously - that's a given on any car/track combo as default is never quite right, gears so it goes fast,  then just a tweak to the toe, tiny camber change, front damper, brake bias a bit (still not optimal but I ran out of testing time) and off we go

I'll try installing stracker and if it doesn't eff up how my game runs I'll keep it...

ah bugger, didnt you see my chat saying i'll send you my setup? i sent the actual setup at start of qually. I think stracker does tell you so and so has sent you a setup. Think it says it at top of screen centrally.  :-\  In hindsight i should have just shared it for all as i'd rather be racing people than hotlapping on my tod.
Assume the setup would suit both engine variants as mostly chassis/suspension work than gearing.  :-\  though i did alter 2nd and 4th gears too.

@Ceolmor, no problem, will send a setup next time if its good enough.

That doesn't matter if the cars are named differently. If you send someone a setup for the chevy engine car, the recipient won't be able to see it if he's in the Ford (unless he moves it to the correct folder).

As you know it's hard to see these things in the Rift, plus the inability last night to go back to the pits meant I couldn't read the chat messages.

I guess there maybe car setup differences as well, you guys were talking of softening the suspension to 3/4 5/7 or (something) the default Ford was softer than this by default.

Best place and time to get setup advice is to get on the practice server whilst other drivers are there. Sadly hardly anyone appears to use it before a race these days, or at least not at the same times.