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Title: UKAC AC Competizione - Nürburgring GP - Jul 24
Post by: Mark J on July 19, 2019, 02:36:42 PM +0100
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Practise: 19:30 (45 mins)
Qual: 20:15 (15 mins)
Race: 20:30  40mins

Cars allowed:
All gt3 spec cars

Track: Nurburg GP (Wet)
Note to all users, our server is listed in the ACC lobby as SimRacingOrgUk so use that as your server search.

Time of Day Setting: 19:00
Weather: Wet
Start: Rolling - 2 by 2 formation by the time we reach last corner/sf straight
Tyre wear: Normal
Fuel consumption: Normal
Pit-stops: Optional

Server settings:-  Dynamic track, Dynamic weather. Full rolling lap.



Title: Re: UKAC AC Competizione - Nürburgring GP - Jul 24
Post by: Mark J on July 20, 2019, 11:58:24 AM +0100
I've dropped a post for this race over at Kunos to see if we can entice more drivers. Feel free to let others know when you race others on MP servers  :)

@Pete, is this up on the server for practise yet? Thanks in advance.


Title: Re: UKAC AC Competizione - Nürburgring GP - Jul 24
Post by: picnic on July 20, 2019, 12:03:17 PM +0100
Just sorting it out, when I tried last night it told me I needed to upgrade the server. Only just had the chance to get the files from Steam. Give me another 5 mins


Title: Re: UKAC AC Competizione - Nürburgring GP - Jul 24
Post by: Mark J on July 20, 2019, 12:38:20 PM +0100
Thanks Pete, just hopped on to check it over. Only thing was that practise was dry with some light clouds and sunshine. Not sure how the weather settings work for ACC but will need to be wetter than that in practise so that we get a feel for wet conditions in the race.


Title: Re: UKAC AC Competizione - Nürburgring GP - Jul 24
Post by: picnic on July 20, 2019, 01:21:05 PM +0100
I had rain at 1, which I thought meant rain, but with randomness at 1. This means some change but not much so I'm surprised it wasn't wet. I've turned the randomness off now and restarted the server.


Title: Re: UKAC AC Competizione - Nürburgring GP - Jul 24
Post by: nfsw55 on July 20, 2019, 03:53:23 PM +0100
Just entered the server and it ran with "storm" conditions which is the highest rain setting, deemed to replicate "red flag" conditions. If you ask me this is a bit too much for our first rain race. I would suggest medium or maximal heavy rain.


Title: Re: UKAC AC Competizione - Nürburgring GP - Jul 24
Post by: picnic on July 20, 2019, 04:57:54 PM +0100
The weather range is 0 to 1.0 - what would people like?


Title: Re: UKAC AC Competizione - Nürburgring GP - Jul 24
Post by: Mark J on July 20, 2019, 06:10:41 PM +0100
0 to 1...ooh choices choices  :laugh:

So does 0 mean damp to wet and 1 mean heavy to storm? (Just going on the two reports back from me and nsfw so far  :-\ ). If so I’d plump for 0 for this first wet test race.


Title: Re: UKAC AC Competizione - Nürburgring GP - Jul 24
Post by: Jeffrey on July 20, 2019, 06:15:55 PM +0100
As long as it's a fixed wetness, it shouldn't matter as that gives people time to get a feel for it.


Title: Re: UKAC AC Competizione - Nürburgring GP - Jul 24
Post by: MaxVeloce on July 20, 2019, 06:39:12 PM +0100
0.5!


Title: Re: UKAC AC Competizione - Nürburgring GP - Jul 24
Post by: nfsw55 on July 20, 2019, 10:05:09 PM +0100
0.5 sounds good to start with. Lets try this and see how it works.


Title: Re: UKAC AC Competizione - Nürburgring GP - Jul 24
Post by: picnic on July 21, 2019, 08:40:58 AM +0100
Sorry for the delay I went out yesterday, server now restarted with 0.5 wetness.


Title: Re: UKAC AC Competizione - Nürburgring GP - Jul 24
Post by: spanner on July 21, 2019, 09:21:28 AM +0100
Sorry wont be around this week.


Title: Re: UKAC AC Competizione - Nürburgring GP - Jul 24
Post by: nfsw55 on July 21, 2019, 04:13:44 PM +0100
Sorry for the delay I went out yesterday, server now restarted with 0.5 wetness.

Thanks, looked fine to me :thumbup1:


Title: Re: UKAC AC Competizione - Nürburgring GP - Jul 24
Post by: Mark J on July 22, 2019, 08:40:18 AM +0100
what wet session times are you guys hitting so far? Im on about 2:11 with the Porsche and 2:12 Jaguar, though it was very wet. That seemed about an average time from other guys that were hopping on the server last night (nobody from here).


Title: Re: UKAC AC Competizione - Nürburgring GP - Jul 24
Post by: MaxVeloce on July 22, 2019, 12:13:18 PM +0100
well that's faster than I've gone so far...


Title: Re: UKAC AC Competizione - Nürburgring GP - Jul 24
Post by: Mark J on July 22, 2019, 01:10:36 PM +0100
well that's faster than I've gone so far...

Sure it is Mr SandBag ........  :shifty:


Title: Re: UKAC AC Competizione - Nürburgring GP - Jul 24
Post by: MaxVeloce on July 22, 2019, 01:18:45 PM +0100
 :P


Title: Re: UKAC AC Competizione - Nürburgring GP - Jul 24
Post by: Jeffrey on July 22, 2019, 06:25:27 PM +0100
what wet session times are you guys hitting so far? Im on about 2:11 with the Porsche and 2:12 Jaguar, though it was very wet. That seemed about an average time from other guys that were hopping on the server last night (nobody from here).

Me and another guy were doing low 2:09's in the BMW.

well that's faster than I've gone so far...

You've only done the track walk then?  :P


Title: Re: UKAC AC Competizione - Nürburgring GP - Jul 24
Post by: MaxVeloce on July 22, 2019, 06:58:55 PM +0100
well that's faster than I've gone so far...

You've only done the track walk then?  :P

not even that...    I'll try and do some laps tonight  :)


Title: Re: UKAC AC Competizione - Nürburgring GP - Jul 24
Post by: nfsw55 on July 22, 2019, 09:51:09 PM +0100
Server crashed twice this evening, both times during the qualifying session. Just to let you know.


@Mark Regarding the pit limiter: If you want to activate it manually, just change it from automatic to manual in the settings and assign a button to it or use the default setting ALt+L. But this only works if you set it it to manual first.

Btw Is John Passmore also from here? those real names are confusing me ;D


Title: Re: UKAC AC Competizione - Nürburgring GP - Jul 24
Post by: Mark J on July 22, 2019, 09:54:19 PM +0100

@Mark Regarding the pit limiter: If you want to activate it manually, just change it from automatic to manual in the settings and assign a button to it or use the default setting ALt+L. But this only works if you set it it to manual first.

I read afterwards that you still have to slow to below pitlane speed for it to activate...whats the point then?!  :P

Good to see a few fellow drivers in the monsoon conditions tonight. Another 2:11 for me in the Aston this time. SQ is setting the pace though!  :o  :)


Title: Re: UKAC AC Competizione - Nürburgring GP - Jul 24
Post by: nfsw55 on July 22, 2019, 09:56:59 PM +0100

@Mark Regarding the pit limiter: If you want to activate it manually, just change it from automatic to manual in the settings and assign a button to it or use the default setting ALt+L. But this only works if you set it it to manual first.

I read afterwards that you still have to slow to below pitlane speed for it to activate...whats the point then?!  :P

Good to see a few fellow drivers in the monsoon conditions tonight. Another 2:11 for me in the Aston this time. SQ is setting the pace though!  :o  :)

Really? I always activate it when I'm at 70-80 km/h a few meters before the pit line. It only works in first gear tho, like irl.


Title: Re: UKAC AC Competizione - Nürburgring GP - Jul 24
Post by: frex on July 22, 2019, 10:27:50 PM +0100
Btw Is John Passmore also from here? those real names are confusing me ;D

Yes, he races with us in the RRE leagues.


Title: Re: UKAC AC Competizione - Nürburgring GP - Jul 24
Post by: MaxVeloce on July 22, 2019, 10:34:01 PM +0100
Good to see a few fellow drivers in the monsoon conditions tonight. Another 2:11 for me in the Aston this time. SQ is setting the pace though!  :o  :)

Isn't he just.  No sandbags today, after it crashed in qually I rejoined the server and did another 30min of practice, got to 2:09.2x  but that's not a 2:07  :o

Maybe I'll try a different car tomorrow, I have no idea if that helps or I just need to persevere and work out a good wet setup ???   Lambo felt good in the dry at Spa but here in the wet, yuck.


Title: Re: UKAC AC Competizione - Nürburgring GP - Jul 24
Post by: nfsw55 on July 22, 2019, 10:42:15 PM +0100
Btw Is John Passmore also from here? those real names are confusing me ;D

Yes, he races with us in the RRE leagues.

Good to know, thanks ;) He said he'll be joining us this wednesday.


Title: Re: UKAC AC Competizione - Nürburgring GP - Jul 24
Post by: Mark J on July 23, 2019, 09:05:06 AM +0100
any useful improvements to recommend to the preset wet setups? It gives good grip in the very wet conditions but does have a lot of understeer and takes longer to brake.

Good to hear John P is joining us. Server is attracting quite a few random drivers so might net a few more new drivers over time.

FPS is good despite the conditions. Did get the odd micro pause, probably when someone stuffed it into a wall. Had a couple of huge spins on the downhill back straight when the front end went light  :o


Title: Re: UKAC AC Competizione - Nürburgring GP - Jul 24
Post by: picnic on July 23, 2019, 09:12:33 AM +0100
Server is attracting quite a few random drivers so might net a few more new drivers over time.
It's a shame that Kunos etc. didn't carry over the concept or a Welcome Text file from AC. That allowed us to advertise the site as people entered.


Title: Re: UKAC AC Competizione - Nürburgring GP - Jul 24
Post by: MaxVeloce on July 23, 2019, 10:38:29 AM +0100
any useful improvements to recommend to the preset wet setups? It gives good grip in the very wet conditions but does have a lot of understeer and takes longer to brake.

check the brake duct settings,  on the lambo they were wide open and I could close them right down almost to nothing and put some more heat into the tyres


Title: Re: UKAC AC Competizione - Nürburgring GP - Jul 24
Post by: Mark J on July 23, 2019, 10:47:01 AM +0100
any useful improvements to recommend to the preset wet setups? It gives good grip in the very wet conditions but does have a lot of understeer and takes longer to brake.

check the brake duct settings,  on the lambo they were wide open and I could close them right down almost to nothing and put some more heat into the tyres

Yeah did that towards the end of my session but didnt gain anything timewise, but good tip if others are unaware of it. The Aston already had them half closed in wet setup so must vary car to car.  Its probably the high TC and ABS settings that are dulling the cars sharpness. How do we know what ECU map 7 means? (must be a list somewhere) - i left it alone.

Cars sound epic thundering past the pitlane when you are just sitting there. 8)

ps if you flat spot your wet tyres, its almost a pitstop job to replace them as i found the car almost undriveable in the slower corners with 50pence piece tyres after one particularly big lock up. Bit too much i would say, needs toning down a little.


Title: Re: UKAC AC Competizione - Nürburgring GP - Jul 24
Post by: MaxVeloce on July 23, 2019, 11:04:27 AM +0100
How do we know what ECU map 7 means? (must be a list somewhere) - i left it alone.
It varies by car,  full list here https://www.assettocorsa.net/forum/index.php?threads/ecu-maps-implementation.54472/


ps if you flat spot your wet tyres, its almost a pitstop job to replace them as i found the car almost undriveable in the slower corners with 50pence piece tyres after one particularly big lock up. Bit too much i would say, needs toning down a little.
yeh, exactly what I did to the front left on the 1st lap of the Spa race,  40 minutes of the massive vibration was not fun (but still quicker than pitting)


Title: Re: UKAC AC Competizione - Nürburgring GP - Jul 24
Post by: Chunky on July 23, 2019, 11:48:45 AM +0100
Looking forward to giving this a go, using the UT engine certainly makes difference with weather adds a dimension that RRE doesn't have. But I did think that RRE was moving to the UT engine?
JP


Title: Re: UKAC AC Competizione - Nürburgring GP - Jul 24
Post by: Baikal on July 23, 2019, 01:18:53 PM +0100
The rain amount you choosen guys is so frivolous and easy to drive for me, but.... I 'll take a part of it tomorrow ;D  

Look as it should be for full relax and fun: :P
https://youtu.be/Qp0Rd-6E12A?t=3150
It was server's random weather.  :D
https://youtu.be/Qp0Rd-6E12A?t=2143


Title: Re: UKAC AC Competizione - Nürburgring GP - Jul 24
Post by: Mark J on July 23, 2019, 02:13:03 PM +0100
it was full monsoon last night on the server...but us Brits are used to driving in rain like that, its normal for our summers  :laugh:

I think ACC has nailed the rain driving actually, i got really good feedback through the wheel and you could feel areas of standing water etc or the tyres scrabbling for grip out of the slower corners. Nice  8)


Title: Re: UKAC AC Competizione - Nürburgring GP - Jul 24
Post by: Mark J on July 23, 2019, 03:02:30 PM +0100
How do we know what ECU map 7 means? (must be a list somewhere) - i left it alone.
It varies by car,  full list here https://www.assettocorsa.net/forum/index.php?threads/ecu-maps-implementation.54472/


Ah i see they have you covered Max    1 and 2 for races. 3 is sandbagging map.   ;D


Title: Re: UKAC AC Competizione - Nürburgring GP - Jul 24
Post by: MaxVeloce on July 23, 2019, 03:25:56 PM +0100
Ah i see they have you covered Max    1 and 2 for races. 3 is sandbagging map.   ;D

yeh, maybe I need to swap to the ferrari


Title: Re: UKAC AC Competizione - Nürburgring GP - Jul 24
Post by: Mark J on July 23, 2019, 08:58:17 PM +0100
Can we not have the practise server running 40min races? I’m unable to join this evening as long race in progress  :( Prob bit too late now for this weeks race but for future practise events, ta


Title: Re: UKAC AC Competizione - Nürburgring GP - Jul 24
Post by: nfsw55 on July 23, 2019, 09:43:42 PM +0100
Formation lap is still the short version :P


Title: Re: UKAC AC Competizione - Nürburgring GP - Jul 24
Post by: Mark J on July 23, 2019, 10:10:10 PM +0100
broke into the 2:08's tonight (2:08.3 PB)  :) after making some setup tweaks, car felt much better, less like a barge  :P

Realised another thing tonight too though, following another car in their rooster tail of spray is blinking hard! you cant see your braking points and apex's  :o


Title: Re: UKAC AC Competizione - Nürburgring GP - Jul 24
Post by: Chunky on July 24, 2019, 11:43:38 AM +0100
does anybody have any ideas of what tweaks work with this sim especially for a wet race, tried a few thing an i seem to be getting worse rather than better :)

cheers
JP


Title: Re: UKAC AC Competizione - Nürburgring GP - Jul 24
Post by: MaxVeloce on July 24, 2019, 12:12:49 PM +0100
broke into the 2:08's tonight (2:08.3 PB)  :) after making some setup tweaks, car felt much better, less like a barge  :P

I bet it felt like a completely different car  :D


Title: Re: UKAC AC Competizione - Nürburgring GP - Jul 24
Post by: Mark J on July 24, 2019, 02:17:37 PM +0100
does anybody have any ideas of what tweaks work with this sim especially for a wet race, tried a few thing an i seem to be getting worse rather than better :)

cheers
JP

For me it was altering the ABS and TC settings until car became too edgy/snappy in the wet then dial it back one. Also making sure tyre pressures were at 29 degs running temp, all 4 of mine were out using the default wet setup. But most of my improvement came from being able to practise 3 nights on the trot for once! (wifes away!)  ;D


Title: Re: UKAC AC Competizione - Nürburgring GP - Jul 24
Post by: Chunky on July 24, 2019, 02:27:29 PM +0100
Hi Mark with the tire temps did you have to increase or decrease the tire pressures from default?

cheers
JP


Title: Re: UKAC AC Competizione - Nürburgring GP - Jul 24
Post by: Mark J on July 24, 2019, 03:02:38 PM +0100
increase all round, will vary car to car but generally the tyres were about 0.8 to -1 too low. When you do your practise laps cast a regular glance to your tyre temps to see what they are reading. Of course, if the track dries out the tyre temps will rise! so you will have to hunt puddles  :P


Title: Re: UKAC AC Competizione - Nürburgring GP - Jul 24
Post by: Chunky on July 24, 2019, 03:08:06 PM +0100
brilliant thanks  :D


Title: Re: UKAC AC Competizione - Nürburgring GP - Jul 24
Post by: Mark J on July 24, 2019, 04:43:57 PM +0100
Room fans will have to be working overtime this evening! its baking in my house :sweatdrop: plus ACC really gets my pc and wheel motors kicking out the heat in my face!  :P



Title: Re: UKAC AC Competizione - Nürburgring GP - Jul 24
Post by: Jeffrey on July 24, 2019, 05:19:43 PM +0100
increase all round, will vary car to car but generally the tyres were about 0.8 to -1 too low. When you do your practise laps cast a regular glance to your tyre temps to see what they are reading. Of course, if the track dries out the tyre temps will rise! so you will have to hunt puddles  :P

What are the ideal pressures?


Title: Re: UKAC AC Competizione - Nürburgring GP - Jul 24
Post by: MaxVeloce on July 24, 2019, 05:37:39 PM +0100
What are the ideal pressures?

when all 3 bars of the tyres are equal height in the HUD (when hot of course)


Title: Re: UKAC AC Competizione - Nürburgring GP - Jul 24
Post by: Jeffrey on July 24, 2019, 05:59:15 PM +0100

when all 3 bars of the tyres are equal height in the HUD (when hot of course)

Uhm, a number please  :P


Title: Re: UKAC AC Competizione - Nürburgring GP - Jul 24
Post by: MaxVeloce on July 24, 2019, 06:20:33 PM +0100
30 for wets, 28 for slicks on the cars I've tried


Title: Re: UKAC AC Competizione - Nürburgring GP - Jul 24
Post by: Baikal on July 24, 2019, 06:34:05 PM +0100
Room fans will have to be working overtime this evening! its baking in my house :sweatdrop: plus ACC really gets my pc and wheel motors kicking out the heat in my face!  :P

The fanat of ACC detected  ;D :D  BTW i am using Bedouin style bandage over my head- highly recommend it  :)
https://youtu.be/goFgqqUAXjk?t=5


Pete or who knows- the weather randomness will be on or off on  server?


Title: Re: UKAC AC Competizione - Nürburgring GP - Jul 24
Post by: picnic on July 24, 2019, 07:19:37 PM +0100
Pete or who knows- the weather randomness will be on or off on  server?
Should be off


Title: Re: UKAC AC Competizione - Nürburgring GP - Jul 24
Post by: Baikal on July 24, 2019, 07:23:12 PM +0100
Ok. Good news for me, thanks Pete  :)


Title: Re: UKAC AC Competizione - Nürburgring GP - Jul 24
Post by: picnic on July 24, 2019, 07:27:49 PM +0100
Formation lap is still the short version :P
And for tonight will remain so. Release notes for 1.6 say

- Private servers can set up a full formation lap via "shortFormationLap": 0 in the settings.json.

Well the server just crashes if I add that line in either the main section or the race session.


Title: Re: UKAC AC Competizione - Nürburgring GP - Jul 24
Post by: nfsw55 on July 24, 2019, 07:37:12 PM +0100
Formation lap is still the short version :P
And for tonight will remain so. Release notes for 1.6 say

- Private servers can set up a full formation lap via "shortFormationLap": 0 in the settings.json.

Well the server just crashes if I add that line in either the main section or the race session.

Thanks for the information, doesn't make much sense then ::)


Title: Re: UKAC AC Competizione - Nürburgring GP - Jul 24
Post by: Chunky on July 24, 2019, 09:30:43 PM +0100
so sorry to the person i hit from behind at the chicane, from the spray it is so hard to see anything at all and i was counting down the brake markers no realising that the 150 had gone! i apologise and i didnt see come back on track otherwise i would have waited.   that was kind of fun but really difficult so hard to see following another car.

JP


Title: Re: UKAC AC Competizione - Nürburgring GP - Jul 24
Post by: Mark J on July 24, 2019, 09:31:33 PM +0100
finished 2nd ...hurrah  :thumbup2:

Enjoyed that, challenging conditions but nice combo of cars and track. Good first wet race experience.  :) Had good pace, including a new 2:06 PB in qually  :o but still pipped by Max (who had sneaked in our garage and stole our setup info  :shifty:   ;D )
Sadly nobody else kept up so I had a lonely race other than the first 15mins chasing Max's rooster tail, until he started pulling away.

shame only 7 turned up  ::)


Title: Re: UKAC AC Competizione - Nürburgring GP - Jul 24
Post by: nfsw55 on July 24, 2019, 09:47:51 PM +0100
Qualifiyng started with a dry track surface which got wet very fast, so the ones leaving the pitlane as early as possible had the best conditions. I waited a bit too long, so it was only P3 for me.
Start went better and I was able to immediately overtake both guys infront right after the lights went green. Stayed in P1 for a few laps when I suddenly dropped a wheel onto the grass approaching the veedol-chicane, sending my car into a spin , stupid and annoying mistake  from my side :(
Spend the rest of the race trying to catch up to Mark at least, but another spin in the final stages destroyed my hopes.
Nevertheless racing in the wet was quite fun, hoping for another try with those conditions in the future and a slightly better turnout next time.


Title: Re: UKAC AC Competizione - Nürburgring GP - Jul 24
Post by: Baikal on July 24, 2019, 10:05:54 PM +0100
so sorry to the person i hit from behind at the chicane, from the spray it is so hard to see anything at all and i was counting down the brake markers no realising that the 150 had gone! i apologise and i didnt see come back on track otherwise i would have waited.   that was kind of fun but really difficult so hard to see following another car.

JP
Ok. Please, follow the league traditions, practice in same ( wet) condition first (using AI). I saw you've not tryied to return a pos and was very angry about this fact. For now, in ACC, every  small contact will cause loose pace and race overall. Espetially when you crashed at other car at full speed. Congrats Max and Mark- you both was find a proper key to Porsche and car setup.
For me it was too wet and slippery  ;D
Good night, but i am on morning here with lost night.  


Title: Re: UKAC AC Competizione - Nürburgring GP - Jul 24
Post by: Mark J on July 24, 2019, 10:31:46 PM +0100
Alexey, Slightly unfair to chunky as he has been on the wet practise server on at least one or two evenings that I’ve seen. I didn’t see the incident but he explained what happened. Unfortunate that it ruined both your cars for the race though  :(


Title: Re: UKAC AC Competizione - Nürburgring GP - Jul 24
Post by: MaxVeloce on July 25, 2019, 12:20:26 PM +0100
eh that was quite fun, shame so few turned out to splash around  ???

Had to abandon the Lambo after tuesdays practice, as I could not get a driveable and fast balance in the setup.  I was quite shocked when I took the Porsche for a quick spin afterwards and discovered it was so much faster over a lap - I know these cars are meant to be bop'd but I'm sure that can't be right.


Qually. I was too slow getting out the pits and got stuck behind Mark and Alexey, lucky Mark decided to pull over on the out lap and make a gap to Alexey, but I continued. The gap I had to Alexey didn't last long on the flying lap though and not wanting to risk anything I spent half the lap sat on his rear bumper before he made an error at veedol, it cost me time but I was fairly confident that 1 flaying lap was going to be enough for pole, and it was.

Race.  I guess I need to work on the race starts as I got completely mugged by NFSW at the start, he was accelerating before my spotter even called the green flag. I had a less than perfect first couple of laps and NFSW pulled a small gap, but I wasn't too worried as its a long race and anything can happen - and then it did. He had a huge off braking for Veedol and I was through. After that not much happened really, in the mirror I saw Mark have a small moment braking too late at the hairpin and after that I never saw another car  :o


Congrats to Mark on bringing it home 2nd,  unlucky to NFSW in 3rd.


Last time I ruined my race flatspotting a tyre on lap 1, this time it was NFSW spinning off early on,  so maybe next time we'll get a race all the way to the flag  :)



Got to say too, I love how ACC feels in the wet, when you ride the kerbs you can really feel a rear tyre go light as it spins up just before the oversteer happens, magic it is!


Title: Re: UKAC AC Competizione - Nürburgring GP - Jul 24
Post by: Simon Gymer on July 25, 2019, 12:32:46 PM +0100
That was a complete joke for me. The Honda was simply so slow with or without traction control. I had to brake so much earlier than anyone else and the rest was a joke. I gave up in the end cause I can't compete with anyone. I'd be interested to see what times the top guys can do in that car in those conditions compared to me cause even with no practice I'm never that far off the pace, besides I've been racing it offline against the AI so that counts as practice.


Title: Re: UKAC AC Competizione - Nürburgring GP - Jul 24
Post by: Jeffrey on July 25, 2019, 03:01:11 PM +0100
That was a complete joke for me. The Honda was simply so slow with or without traction control. I had to brake so much earlier than anyone else and the rest was a joke. I gave up in the end cause I can't compete with anyone. I'd be interested to see what times the top guys can do in that car in those conditions compared to me cause even with no practice I'm never that far off the pace, besides I've been racing it offline against the AI so that counts as practice.

The Honda was confirmed by Kunos to be uncompetitive. The newer version should be better.

Quite a few cars are absolutely useless and I wish they went for a more equal BOP.


Title: Re: UKAC AC Competizione - Nürburgring GP - Jul 24
Post by: Mark J on July 25, 2019, 03:09:52 PM +0100
I think the Porsche felt better in the rain than some of the other cars as it has renowned traction in the wet. Having the engine closer to the rear axel than a front or mid-engined car helps get the power down and less squirmy under acceleration or braking. I still couldnt get it under 2:10 until i made the setup changes that improved it greatly by removing a lot of understeer.

Not sure why the Honda is slow. its fairly new to Blancpain so maybe Kunos havent been given enough technical data  :-\  Not tried it yet.

Does sound like they need to tighten up the BoP though.

Should have stuck with your Lambo Max, you would have had a closer race  ;)  and yes i braked too late twice down at that hairpin as i couldnt see the braking point or kerbs through your spray !  :P


Title: Re: UKAC AC Competizione - Nürburgring GP - Jul 24
Post by: MaxVeloce on July 25, 2019, 03:16:49 PM +0100
I think the Porsche felt better in the rain than some of the other cars as it has renowned traction in the wet. Having the engine closer to the rear axel than a front or mid-engined car helps get the power down and less squirmy under acceleration or braking. I still couldnt get it under 2:10 until i made the setup changes that improved it greatly by removing a lot of understeer.

interesting, I just ran the default wet setup with adjusted tyre pressure and small change to TC and ABS and it was ripping!, easily 2-3 seconds a lap faster than anything I got from the lambo, in which I had no front end and no traction either  :o


Title: Re: UKAC AC Competizione - Nürburgring GP - Jul 24
Post by: nfsw55 on July 25, 2019, 03:22:55 PM +0100

Had to abandon the Lambo after tuesdays practice, as I could not get a driveable and fast balance in the setup.  I was quite shocked when I took the Porsche for a quick spin afterwards and discovered it was so much faster over a lap - I know these cars are meant to be bop'd but I'm sure that can't be right.




ACC uses the official Blancpain BoP from last year and for every track. The Porsche wasn't very good in last years season and so he is in ACC. Lack of topspeed and bad aerodynamics compared to other cars. In addition it's quite hard to drive and very unforgiving.
But keep in mind that Porsches naturally have a huge advantage in rainy conditions due to their rear engine concept.



@Simon the Honda is just slow, it wasn't your fault.
The car only did one Blancpain race last year (Spa) and there it wasn't even in the pro clss, so the guys doing the BoP for the Blancpain series had very limited information and data, so in the end the Bop for this car was quite off. As ACC replicates this 1:1 the car is also pretty much useless ingame. The NSX GT3 Evo from this year should be much better.


Title: Re: UKAC AC Competizione - Nürburgring GP - Jul 24
Post by: Simon Gymer on July 25, 2019, 03:25:25 PM +0100
Well that makes me feel a little better. I think the car looks cool, but if its rubbish then no thanks.  ;D

Other thing I noticed last night is that the spray was awesome, couldn't see a thing. LOL. HOWEVER! There was no spray in the mirror or when looking behind so you it looked really wrong that there was spray from other cars in front of me but nothing behind. I have everything in game on EPIC or whatever the max setting is.


Title: Re: UKAC AC Competizione - Nürburgring GP - Jul 24
Post by: nfsw55 on July 25, 2019, 03:37:58 PM +0100
Well that makes me feel a little better. I think the car looks cool, but if its rubbish then no thanks.  ;D

Other thing I noticed last night is that the spray was awesome, couldn't see a thing. LOL. HOWEVER! There was no spray in the mirror or when looking behind so you it looked really wrong that there was spray from other cars in front of me but nothing behind. I have everything in game on EPIC or whatever the max setting is.

That's broken since the latest UE4 update, you can see everyone's spray cloud except your own. Kunos is working on it but I guess it's pretty low on their prioritiy list.


Title: Re: UKAC AC Competizione - Nürburgring GP - Jul 24
Post by: MaxVeloce on July 25, 2019, 05:23:35 PM +0100
ACC uses the official Blancpain BoP from last year and for every track. The Porsche wasn't very good in last years season and so he is in ACC. Lack of topspeed and bad aerodynamics compared to other cars. In addition it's quite hard to drive and very unforgiving.
But keep in mind that Porsches naturally have a huge advantage in rainy conditions due to their rear engine concept.

Oh well, that just proves I know nothing about Blancpain  :D

All I know is the Porsche wasn't liking Eau Rouge at all, so I took the Lambo. This time the Lambo was hating the kink at the bottom of the hill before Veedol, wanting to swap ends so easily , but the Porsche was fine in there...  Not gonna complain if it forces me to drive different cars depending on track and/or conditions



Just out of interest, how many hours played does anyone have in ACC,  I'm up to a massive 62, most of which was hotlapping testing VR in v0.2/0.3


Title: Re: UKAC AC Competizione - Nürburgring GP - Jul 24
Post by: Simon Gymer on July 25, 2019, 05:46:19 PM +0100
Just out of interest, how many hours played does anyone have in ACC,  I'm up to a massive 62, most of which was hotlapping testing VR in v0.2/0.3

A measily 23 hours.


Title: Re: UKAC AC Competizione - Nürburgring GP - Jul 24
Post by: Bob on July 25, 2019, 06:06:19 PM +0100
2310 in AC, 16 in ACC, nearly all in VR and looking at last nights turn out they have an awful lot of optimisation to do and even more bugs to fix to encourage more to participate. After all is said this is supposed to be a released game. Will be back racing when its fixed and I can use my Rift. PS I am not against ACC being every other week as long as I get my AC fix.


Title: Re: UKAC AC Competizione - Nürburgring GP - Jul 24
Post by: Jeffrey on July 25, 2019, 06:54:27 PM +0100


A measily 23 hours.

Pff no lifer, 21 here  :P


Title: Re: UKAC AC Competizione - Nürburgring GP - Jul 24
Post by: picnic on July 25, 2019, 07:02:05 PM +0100
LOL - I've got 4.4 and most of that was probably testing the server  :-[ ::)


Title: Re: UKAC AC Competizione - Nürburgring GP - Jul 24
Post by: SRW on July 25, 2019, 08:06:15 PM +0100
2310 in AC, 16 in ACC, nearly all in VR and looking at last nights turn out they have an awful lot of optimisation to do and even more bugs to fix to encourage more to participate. After all is said this is supposed to be a released game. Will be back racing when its fixed and I can use my Rift. PS I am not against ACC being every other week as long as I get my AC fix.

@Bob,

There is still plenty of AC action on Sunday nights, we will be at Pukekohe this Sunday in the Porsche Cup cars!


Title: Re: UKAC AC Competizione - Nürburgring GP - Jul 24
Post by: Bob on July 25, 2019, 08:25:06 PM +0100
Was away for last race but be there Sunday.


Title: Re: UKAC AC Competizione - Nürburgring GP - Jul 24
Post by: Jeffrey on July 26, 2019, 06:11:08 AM +0100
LOL - I've got 4.4 and most of that was probably testing the server  :-[ ::)

I expected you to have much more with all the restarts  ;) ;D


Title: Re: UKAC AC Competizione - Nürburgring GP - Jul 24
Post by: Mark J on July 26, 2019, 06:34:52 PM +0100
Only 18hours for me in ACC so far. 924 in AC  :o


Title: Re: UKAC AC Competizione - Nürburgring GP - Jul 24
Post by: spanner on July 26, 2019, 10:01:05 PM +0100
With the talk over BoP and some cars being done badly based on last years data, does that mean they are going to be releasing this years cars and tracks?


Title: Re: UKAC AC Competizione - Nürburgring GP - Jul 24
Post by: MaxVeloce on July 26, 2019, 10:20:52 PM +0100
does that mean they are going to be releasing this years cars and tracks?

yes


Title: Re: UKAC AC Competizione - Nürburgring GP - Jul 24
Post by: Simon Gymer on July 28, 2019, 12:15:33 PM +0100
435 hours in AC. About half of Jonzo's, but then again I don't do practice so... :-D


Title: Re: UKAC AC Competizione - Nürburgring GP - Jul 24
Post by: Jeffrey on July 28, 2019, 04:26:37 PM +0100
435 hours in AC. About half of Jonzo's, but then again I don't do practice so... :-D

It shows  :-*


Title: Re: UKAC AC Competizione - Nürburgring GP - Jul 24
Post by: Simon Gymer on July 28, 2019, 08:10:43 PM +0100
It shows  :-*
:2guns:


Title: Re: UKAC AC Competizione - Nürburgring GP - Jul 24
Post by: nfsw55 on July 31, 2019, 11:02:55 PM +0100
How about Misano or Silverstone for next wednesday? Maybe as a night race or with random/changing weather conditions?


Title: Re: UKAC AC Competizione - Nürburgring GP - Jul 24
Post by: Simon Gymer on July 31, 2019, 11:08:05 PM +0100
Night race! No rain.


Title: Re: UKAC AC Competizione - Nürburgring GP - Jul 24
Post by: Mark J on August 01, 2019, 03:15:37 PM +0100
Misano is run as a night race for the real series i believe....good candidate then  :)


Title: Re: UKAC AC Competizione - Nürburgring GP - Jul 24
Post by: Jeffrey on August 01, 2019, 04:16:24 PM +0100
Cut the track and nobody can see it.


Title: Re: UKAC AC Competizione - Nürburgring GP - Jul 24
Post by: MaxVeloce on August 01, 2019, 04:45:39 PM +0100
forget to turn up and nobody can see you  :P


Title: Re: UKAC AC Competizione - Nürburgring GP - Jul 24
Post by: Jeffrey on August 01, 2019, 07:01:09 PM +0100
forget to turn up and nobody can see you  :P

Touché  ;D


Title: Re: UKAC AC Competizione - Nürburgring GP - Jul 24
Post by: MaxVeloce on August 01, 2019, 11:04:57 PM +0100
I'd be interested to see what times the top guys can do in that car in those conditions compared to me cause even with no practice I'm never that far off the pace

i just had a very quick go using default wet setup (-1 click tc and abs) and what I hope were similar conditions to the server last time,  easily into low 2m09s. Braking similar places to the lambo and porsche, so maybe you have some other issue...