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Title: UKGPL Season 35 (2019) 1966 F1 - Keimola - Jul 23
Post by: Rainier on July 20, 2019, 06:23:19 PM +0100
Season 35 – 1966 Grand Prix – Round 2 – Keimola

The 2nd race of this series takes us to Keimola in Finland.
The track was used in the 1960s for Formula 2 races but it never hosted a Formula 1 race. Originally opened in 1966 the track was abandoned in 1978. The pit exit is a bit unusual in that it isn't near the start line.

 The full time drivers can start to practice as soon as the server is available.  
Reserve drivers can also join as soon as the server becomes available but must leave the server with 35 minutes of qualifying left, for a total of 5 minutes; this will allow any remaining full timers to join.  If there is enough space on the grid, the reserve drivers will be able to rejoin when there are 30 mins of qualifying left.  
 
Please read the championship specific rules on the championship standings page (https://www.simracing.org.uk/smf/index.php?action=LM2R&group=689&theme=6).
Password: see above (#post_event_password)
(2) Driver lists can be found on the championship standings page - 1966 (https://www.simracing.org.uk/smf/index.php?action=LM2R&group=691&theme=6)

There is no Red Zone. Moderating will be on reported incidents only. Remember that lap 1 incidents carry an additional penalty place.

The chassis token system is explained on the Historics Trophy standings page.

Please restrict chat to pit messages including at the end of the race until ALL drivers still racing have crossed the line.

A driver must have sufficient tokens for the chassis he drives in the race.  Any driver who does not have sufficient tokens will be disqualified from the result and his tokens will be set to zero.

The chassis a driver uses in qualifying are disregarded when determining his token spend.
Note:  This is to cater for the instances when a driver either does not start or inadvertently joins with the wrong chassis and subsequently rejoins the server in another.

Any tokens not spent at the end of the season are ignored and are not used to determine championship positions in the event of a tie.


PRO rules means Shift-Rs are not allowed at any time and the damage model is realistic.
 
Drivers must complete 50% race distance to score.



Race List =  IGOR
Server = UKGPL_8
IP Address = look at iGOR
Race date = 23-07-2019
GPL mod = 66
60fps patch used = 60fpsV2newmod
Track = Link (http://srmz.net/index.php?showtopic=12727)
 
Qualification = 20:45  UK time -> 45min
Race = race starts at ~21:30 UK time
Race length = ~45 min -> 37 laps
Damage Model = PRO
Replay = here (https://www.sendspace.com/file/dig0pt)

GLA + FUN

Available Tokens:
Note: These are the tokens available to each driver before the 10 tokens are added for making the race start.

Driver        Tokens  Status
Bagrup
4
Pro
Cookie
4
Pro
EvilClive
11
Pro
Gareth
17
Pro
Greg T
10
Pro
Iestyn Davies
10
Pro
C. Loynes66
10
Pro
MagicArsouille
10
Pro
Ziu Bacubacu
14
Pro
AnGex
18
Am
Billy Nobrakes
14
Am
francesco
14
Am
Oly9
19
Am
Phil Thornton
21
Am
Rainier
22
Am
Syd Drake
14
Am


Title: Re: UKGPL Season 35 (2019) 1966 F1 - Keimola - Jul 23
Post by: Clive Loynes on July 20, 2019, 06:45:37 PM +0100
Could I be added to the list please?



Title: Re: UKGPL Season 35 (2019) 1966 F1 - Keimola - Jul 23
Post by: Rainier on July 20, 2019, 09:33:55 PM +0100
Could I be added to the list please?



See on race announcement topic, is it OK ?


Title: Re: UKGPL Season 35 (2019) 1966 F1 - Keimola - Jul 23
Post by: Clive Loynes on July 20, 2019, 10:06:15 PM +0100
Could I be added to the list please?



See on race announcement topic, is it OK ?

It says "You are not licensed to enter this series". 

But I see that you have added me to the list of runners and riders.  Thank you.


Title: Re: UKGPL Season 35 (2019) 1966 F1 - Keimola - Jul 23
Post by: Phil Thornton on July 21, 2019, 07:38:45 AM +0100
Should be OK now. Good luck Clive, these 66 machines are fun to drive, you might get hooked again  ;D


Title: Re: UKGPL Season 35 (2019) 1966 F1 - Keimola - Jul 23
Post by: Clive Loynes on July 21, 2019, 08:39:58 AM +0100
Cheers Phil.   :thumbup1:


Title: Re: UKGPL Season 35 (2019) 1966 F1 - Keimola - Jul 23
Post by: Clive Loynes on July 22, 2019, 02:07:29 PM +0100
All I need now is sight of the server to test my ability to connect to it.  ;-)


Title: Re: UKGPL Season 35 (2019) 1966 F1 - Keimola - Jul 23
Post by: Clive Loynes on July 22, 2019, 05:41:13 PM +0100
Thanks for the server Cookie but I can't join it.

I get as far as the Multiplayer screen and no further.

Also, is the 60fpsV2newmod suposed to work off-line?  It doesn't.  I have to uncheck that to run off-line.

I can't join via IP either.  The screen where you enter the IP just sits there looking at me!  ;-(


60fpsV2newmod seems to work on 65mod, both off-line and on UKGPL10.


Title: Re: UKGPL Season 35 (2019) 1966 F1 - Keimola - Jul 23
Post by: Cookie on July 22, 2019, 06:01:37 PM +0100
Old problem solved here:

The 66 mod and 66fpsv2newmod

I was one of those who could only run the 66 mod with 60fpsv1. This is how I fixed it. There's no need to uninstall anything

Run "gpl1966complete_1.1"
Delete the "gpl66" folder from gpl\Mods\GEM+
Run "1966mod_PATCH_v2.0_Setup"
Delete "gplc66.exe" from the gpl folder
Run GEM+, select 66 mod and 60fpsv2newmod

It worked for me. I hope it works for you.



Title: Re: UKGPL Season 35 (2019) 1966 F1 - Keimola - Jul 23
Post by: Clive Loynes on July 22, 2019, 06:04:47 PM +0100
Don't inderstand any of that.  But I remember why I keep GPL Mods to a minimum!


Title: Re: UKGPL Season 35 (2019) 1966 F1 - Keimola - Jul 23
Post by: Clive Loynes on July 22, 2019, 06:14:25 PM +0100
Where do I find gpl1966_1.1complete,  I seem to have used v1.0.

and where do I find 1966mod_PATCH_v2.0_Setup?

Please   ;D


Title: Re: UKGPL Season 35 (2019) 1966 F1 - Keimola - Jul 23
Post by: Cookie on July 22, 2019, 06:36:43 PM +0100
I don't find "gpl1966_1.1complete" too, try the 1


V2 patch is here:
http://srmz.net/index.php?showtopic=3878


Title: Re: UKGPL Season 35 (2019) 1966 F1 - Keimola - Jul 23
Post by: Clive Loynes on July 22, 2019, 09:14:13 PM +0100
That seems to be sorted thanks Cookie.

Just had some valuable practice with David. :thumbup1:


Can you move the grid back a tad?  Pole can't see the starter.


Title: Re: UKGPL Season 35 (2019) 1966 F1 - Keimola - Jul 23
Post by: Cookie on July 22, 2019, 09:32:50 PM +0100
Can you move the grid back a tad?  Pole can't see the starter.

Done


Title: Re: UKGPL Season 35 (2019) 1966 F1 - Keimola - Jul 23
Post by: Clive Loynes on July 23, 2019, 09:16:09 AM +0100
Can you move the grid back a tad?  Pole can't see the starter.

Done

Thank you.  I'm sure one of the aliens will appreciate it.  And we won't have to run into him at the start either!


Title: Re: UKGPL Season 35 (2019) 1966 F1 - Keimola - Jul 23
Post by: Cookie on July 23, 2019, 02:04:37 PM +0100
Training server is up, so test your connection,

!!! no support after 21:00 CEST - 20:00 UK time !!!


Title: Re: UKGPL Season 35 (2019) 1966 F1 - Keimola - Jul 23
Post by: Billy Nobrakes on July 23, 2019, 10:00:44 PM +0100
An evening to forget. During practice I ran into the back of Andreas. very sorry - I thought my braking point was in the right place - probably misjudged the tow. I hit a combination of keys that accidentally exited GPL - when I returned my wheel needed a reset. Made it to the grid in time only to find out the steering was configured backwards & left went right & vice versa. Race over before it began! Shame as I had a reasonably good qualifying time.


Title: Re: UKGPL Season 35 (2019) 1966 F1 - Keimola - Jul 23
Post by: Rainier on July 23, 2019, 10:44:28 PM +0100
Sorry Francesco, I lost control of the car in the grass or sand and I hit your car.
Hopefully, it seems it was OK for you and could finish the race.


Title: Re: UKGPL Season 35 (2019) 1966 F1 - Keimola - Jul 23
Post by: Phil Thornton on July 23, 2019, 10:54:48 PM +0100
I've loaded the chassis the drivers used into the token calculator spreadsheet.  For the next race the available tokens will be as declared in the table below (the table will also appear in the next race announcement).  The calculated values are automated but selecting the cars is a manual process so please check your tokens to make sure I haven't made a silly error. There was no token overspend for this round so no one is disqualified.

Driver        Tokens  Status
Bagrup
8
Pro
Clive Loynes
9
Pro
Cookie
9
Pro
EvilClive
13
Pro
Gareth
17
Pro
Greg T
10
Pro
Iestyn Davies
10
Pro
MagicArsouille
10
Pro
Ziu Bacubacu
18
Pro
AnGex
10
Am
Billy Nobrakes
14
Am
francesco
14
Am
Oly9
22
Am
Phil Thornton
25
Am
Rainier
22
Am
Syd Drake
14
Am


Title: Re: UKGPL Season 35 (2019) 1966 F1 - Keimola - Jul 23
Post by: Phil Thornton on July 23, 2019, 11:07:05 PM +0100
...............Race over before it began! Shame as I had a reasonably good qualifying time.
Unlucky Bill. We qualified a few hundredths apart so I was hoping for a decent race with you. Maybe next time  ;D


Title: Re: UKGPL Season 35 (2019) 1966 F1 - Keimola - Jul 23
Post by: francesco on July 24, 2019, 05:29:38 AM +0100
Quote
Sorry Francesco, I lost control of the car in the grass or sand and I hit your car.
Hopefully, it seems it was OK for you and could finish the race.
I have submitted the incident before to read your sorry.To me seem a bad rejoin,anyway no problem i was able to finish the race.


Title: Re: UKGPL Season 35 (2019) 1966 F1 - Keimola - Jul 23
Post by: EvilClive on July 24, 2019, 09:34:42 AM +0100
Grats to Andreas and the podium finishers.

I cannot complain at my finishing position after risking the engine to break the 1:18 barrier, I should have been more restrained after I had taken the lead and concentrated on getting to the flag.

Qualifying was huge fun with Ziu and myself trading times to get to pole position. There was never more than a few tenths between us, with Andreas and Clive Loynes very close too. My pole time was done on race fuel so I was confident that I would be able to match anyone's pace when the real action started.
Ziu got a better start and slipped into P1 at the first corner, with myself in 2nd and several other cars in close company. I suspect that Ziu was being careful on cold tyres in the early laps, and I wanted to go a little faster because I was concerned about the 3 litre cars behind me when we got to the straights, but I could not see a safe way to get past and had to follow in his wheel tracks.
Then I had a bad moment with my shifter and missed a downshift, which sent me into the gravel and dropped me way down the field with 33 laps still to race.

I pushed very hard to try and make up some places and was able to catch and pass a few cars. After about 10 laps I could see a group of cars about 6 secs ahead, and Prib was telling me that the next car was Clive Loynes. The list on prib showed 3 cars ahead, Clive, Bastian and Andreas but it did not tell me where Ziu was. I was assuming that Ziu was away and clear in 1st place.

Slowly I caught the back of that group ahead and was surprised that when I got closer I could see a red Ferrari at the front of the group, so I was running in 5th place with the leading four cars all together right ahead of me!!! I was amazed that I had managed to catch them all after my "off".
My biggest problem was that they were mostly in 3litre cars and their grunt out of the final corner was just too much for my little 2litre car to match. But after a few laps I worked out that I was much better under braking into T1, so that would have to be where I made any pass. In turn I set up each pass by hooking up the slipstream and pouncing in the braking zone. One by one I eased my way through until I was closing on Ziu's Ferrari and working out where I could attack him. Then he ran wide at T1 and I was released into the lead  :o.
It was relatively easy to ease away and build a comfortable lead. My setup felt great and Prib was showing that a 1:17 sec lap was definitely possible. Maybe the recovery from my early incident and the chase back to the front had put strain on the engine, or maybe I stretched the revs just a little too much chasing a 1:17 lap. Either way, something broke and with 6 laps left I was driving a lame car with zero speed.
It was a hugely enjoyable race in a car that felt almost perfect and I have only myself to blame for throwing it all away. Looking forward to the next race  ;)



Title: Re: UKGPL Season 35 (2019) 1966 F1 - Keimola - Jul 23
Post by: Clive Loynes on July 24, 2019, 11:15:47 AM +0100
Great drive Evil and congratulations to AnGex, Cookie and Ziu.

It's your own fault Evil for driving a lady's car!  Man up a bit! 

It was an eventful race.  Mostly the battle raged just in front of me and the braking distance of Cookie's Eagle, being about half that of the Lotus43 meant that I was just waiting for the fun to kick off as they were running in very close formation.

Evil's camoflage Brabham was almost on top of me before I was it, being cleverly painted to look like tarmac with white lines on it!  Whilst I was trying to figure out what he was up to I made a mistake in the Mickey Mouse section and let him through.  That was a shame as I was intent on letting him through anyway as I thought he might have the same effect as a hand grenade on the group in front.  He did but I was too far back to take advantage at that point.

Cookie lost his tow and I was able to get him on the straight and Ziu had dropped behind after his fight with Evil.

That put me into 3rd spot, which was a hell of a lot better than expected.

But it wasn't to last.  Cookie was all over me in the slow stuff and I made an error, which allowed him through.  As I was struggling in the sand, Ziu threw his Ferrari at me, which turned me around to face the wrong way on the outside of the turn 4.  As I tried to find the track, Bastian appeared but that is the subject of an incident report so no more will be said.

Thanks for the racing.



Title: Re: UKGPL Season 35 (2019) 1966 F1 - Keimola - Jul 23
Post by: bagrupp on July 24, 2019, 01:06:54 PM +0100
The only thing to say is that this "track finding" ended my race on a tire.
My last hope was that you nudge me off that tire the next lap.


Title: Re: UKGPL Season 35 (2019) 1966 F1 - Keimola - Jul 23
Post by: Rainier on July 24, 2019, 02:17:32 PM +0100
Axel, did you save the replay ?


Title: Re: UKGPL Season 35 (2019) 1966 F1 - Keimola - Jul 23
Post by: Cookie on July 24, 2019, 02:21:49 PM +0100
Yes, now it's in race post


Title: Re: UKGPL Season 35 (2019) 1966 F1 - Keimola - Jul 23
Post by: francesco on July 24, 2019, 06:11:04 PM +0100
Clive!is the second race that you give me,like a gift,the position.For mr is ok ;)


Title: Re: UKGPL Season 35 (2019) 1966 F1 - Keimola - Jul 23
Post by: Clive Loynes on July 24, 2019, 07:25:04 PM +0100
He's all heart!


Title: Re: UKGPL Season 35 (2019) 1966 F1 - Keimola - Jul 23
Post by: Clive Loynes on July 24, 2019, 09:02:29 PM +0100
LOL  Just found out that the Lotus43 has SIX gears!   ::)


Title: Re: UKGPL Season 35 (2019) 1966 F1 - Keimola - Jul 23
Post by: Cookie on July 24, 2019, 09:36:09 PM +0100
LOL  Just found out that the Lotus43 has SIX gears!   ::)

All BRM engines do have this in 65 - 66 + 67  ;D ;D


Title: Re: UKGPL Season 35 (2019) 1966 F1 - Keimola - Jul 23
Post by: Clive Loynes on July 24, 2019, 10:11:15 PM +0100
LOL  Just found out that the Lotus43 has SIX gears!   ::)

All BRM engines do have this in 65 - 66 + 67  ;D ;D

Now he tells me!

I started with the default setup, which is geared such that 5th was all I needed to get down the straight at 11,000rpm.  So it never occurred to me that there was another gear.
I used the default ratios and never entered the second page of the setup.   :whistling:


Title: Re: UKGPL Season 35 (2019) 1966 F1 - Keimola - Jul 23
Post by: Rainier on August 07, 2019, 10:29:51 AM +0100
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