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Season 35 – 1967 F1 – Round 5 – Brands Hatch

The fifth race in the 1967 F1 series finds us at Brands Hatch in in Kent, England. The first race to be held at Brands Hatch took place on 16th April 1950, it featured 500cc cars competing over a version of the "Indy" circuit (without Druids Hill Bend) in an anti-clockwise direction. During the 1950s the track was extended to include Druids Hill bend, Paddock Hill bend and the racing direction was changed to clockwise. It wasn't until 1960 that the full Grand Prix circuit was created. The British Grand Prix has been held at Brands Hatch on 12 occasions and the European Grand Prix has been held there twice.  The 1966 Grand Prix was won by Jack Brabham and the 1968 race by Jo Siffert driving a Brabham Repco BT19 and a Lotus-Cosworth 49B respectively.  There have also been numerous non-championship Formula 1 races most notably the Race of Champions in 1967 which was won by Dan Gurney in the Eagle-Weslake T1G.

The full time drivers can start to practice as soon as the server is available.  Reserve drivers can also join as soon as the server becomes available but must leave the server with 35 minutes of qualifying left, for a total of 5 minutes; this will allow any remaining full timers to join.  If there is enough space on the grid, the reserve drivers will be able to rejoin when there are 30 mins of qualifying left.  
 
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Race list	iGOR
Server	UKGPL_4
IP address	77.102.28.179
Date	22-09-2019
Track Directory	brands67 (http://srmz.net/index.php?showtopic=6810)
Mod	67F1 with 60fpsV2newmod
Damage	INT long (Works drivers - NO Shift R, Privateer drivers ONE Shift R)
Race time	~ 21:30 UK time (BST, GMT + 1)
Qualifying	45 minutes @ 20:45 UK time (BST, GMT + 1)
Race length	32 laps
Replay	here (ftp://ftp.ukgpl9.co.uk:32122/Season35/67F1)

If the official replay site is unavailable, the server replay can be downloaded from this temporary location (https://drive.google.com/file/d/1Jnb0kd5ry5LN2LuMn-Qv8Uok137XlmPW/view?usp=sharing).

Password: see above (#post_event_password)

Driver lists can be found on the championship standings page (https://www.simracing.org.uk/smf/index.php?action=LM2R&group=690&theme=6)

There is no Red Zone. Moderating will be on reported incidents only. Remember that lap 1 incidents carry an additional penalty place.

The chassis token system is explained on the championship standings page (https://www.simracing.org.uk/smf/index.php?action=LM2R&group=690&theme=6). Please ensure you choose a chassis that is within your budget, which can be seen by hovering the mouse over your points total in the standings.

Replays can be found by clicking on the link in the top left corner of the UKGPL homepage (https://www.ukgpl.com/index.php).

Please restrict chat to emergency messages only including at the end of the race until ALL drivers still racing have crossed the line.

On holiday this in Austria this week. My wife booked it from Monday to Monday so I will miss the 67 race tomorrow. For those who run the 65 series I will post the Tuesday race on Monday evening.

In Tirol?

Well, of course you don't need us to say have a great time!

However, you'd have thought she would know by now :)

In Upper Austria. Visiting my daughter who lives here.

If you have time go also in south Tirol(Italy),one of the best place on Alpi.

Linz?

Lap 12, 8th place, driving well, steady 60fps, bl&^%y screen freeze.

Checked server chat. A few people disconnected before me. Not sure if the problems are related.

7 drivers disconnected so there must be about 9 still racing.

Yes, a bunch of us had screen freeze at the same time (by the #ukgpl chat).

I'd been on the server earlier in the evening for practice & all was ok then.

I have not understood why at lap 22 the fuel was finished! But looking at the setup there is the explanation.I set the liters to 33 instead of the laps.Could be the age? :laugh:

Checked server replay, 5 drivers were discoed at server replay time 21m45s. No idea what caused that. If I find out I'll try to make sure it doesn't happen again.

For 25+ laps this was one of the best races I ever ran in almost 21 years of GPL. I'd been tracking Gephardt and staying in touch with him for lap after lap, never in any danger of overtaking him but in no danger of being dropped either. I wasn't 20 meters behind him when he discoed on L12. That put me in 7th and then into 6th on the following lap when someone else's disco must have been recorded. That set the stage for the best driving I've ever done, for during the next 13 laps as Bilodeau and Rainier were trailing me close enough for the three of us to have had a spirited conversation as we cruised along together. Lap after lap our times did not differ by so much as hundredths of a second. I have never been party to anything so exciting, and for more than 20 breathtaking minutes.

The magic ended when JohnnyO finally caught up to the three of us and overtook us one-by-one. I should have been an easy overtaking for him, as we were on the widest part of the track just before T4. Somehow I completely bungled my attempt to pick a line and stick to it, eventually driving straight off the track and into the middle of the hay bale rather than take a chance of taking the race leader out. That stuffed me down into 9th place and after that I couldn't do anything right. It was a sad, ignominious way to finish off what really was for 26 laps a race I'll remember forever.  :)

Pepe you weren't the only one... ::)
I had just overtaked some lapped cars when at last lap I lost concentration braking for Surtees putting a tire on the outside edge and spun loosing a long defended second position from Greg attacks that was a couple of seconds behind  :'(
It was an hard race versus my eyes  tearing cause an infection and trying to keep the Braby on tarmac. I failed once in the early race when I went wide at hairpin and Greg passed me after he had had a spin on T1 L1. Then the three leaders had problems and Greg spun again before Dingle Dell so I was second behind Jonny, it won't last, I thought, but just when the dream would have realized I failed.
Grats to podium and commiseration to those discoed.

Tim, yes I was in Linz. Unfortunately now back to the UK & work.

@Billy: Far back in student-times I was in Linz for a few month on a holliday-job in the big steel-factory... long time ago. I´m sure the city has changed since then. Hope you´ve enjoyed it!

@My and others freeze: I never liked Brands Hatch-Circuit very much. Always when I push there I´ll leave the track soon :( -like yesterday. Had 2 sudden spins, was unconcentrated the whole race. And suddenly the freeze..
Looking forward to Austria :)

Grats Jonny!!! Greg!! and fpolicardi! -well done guys, very good for the championship :)
Commiserations to all freezers and drop-outers!

hopefully cu next time, keep your stiff upper lips!!!!!

We've discussed this briefly on the mods forum and arrived at a consensus on Axel's suggestion that the mass disco was probably caused by a single bad connection resulting in several drivers being disconnected at the same time. The screen freeze would have been as a result of the disconnection (quite often a screen freeze is caused by a graphics driver problem but not in this case, 5 drivers would not have had graphics driver problems at exactly the same time at different places on the circuit).

The obvious solution is to set a "max latency limit" each time we run a league race. Sometimes I set this and sometimes I don't. We need to do a few tests to make sure we set a workable latency limit.  Too small and drivers will not be able to connect, too much and we will still be at risk from mass discos.  I'll set up a few test races over the next couple of weeks to try and identify the best setting. Rather than set up a new thread we can post our findings here.

missed due to Oktoberfest  ::)

Congrats Jonny! That was a nice drive.

I got lucky. That was a P6 drive not P2. Tristan and Tim still had plenty of time to catch me if they weren't discoed. It's hard to believe Fulvio lost it on the last lap. I bent my car near the midpoint. I was incapable of putting any real pressure on Fulvio after that. I was able to make somewhat of a late charge.

I guess the only thing I did well was keep the car running and kept it on the track most of the time. I'm glad my early spin didn't wreck anybody. It probably would have been worse if I hadn't made that same mistake so many times. Later I made the same mistake that Tim did as he was closing on me. I was never comfortable with my car like Tim. I hoped to run many high 1:33s, instead I ran very few and none in the race.

It wasn't easy keeping a gap to Clive. He was often running near the same pace as me. I hate to think what I'd have been doing in the Honda.

I didn't really want to lap Dave and Eric but I wanted to get as close to Fulvio as I could, in case something happened. Fulvio hadn't spun when I lapped Dave. But he had spun when I lapped Eric. I figured since I slowed Dave I might as well lap Eric too so things were even between them. Those were nice moves guys to let me pass. Thanks.

It took me a long time to grow fond of Brands Hatch. This time it felt like a thorn in my side. A lot of times British tracks frustrate me, but I can't be frustrated with the incredible luck I got.

Thanks for the fun guys. I hope GPL works better for the next one.

Take care.

My latency ranges from 0.160-0.200 with UKGPL. Axel's server is usually 0.200 for me. Jonny's latency is probably the worst. With latency over 0.220, I have to be more careful and leave a little more space. Over 0.250 and I give up any real hope of making a safe pass. I've raced with as high as 0.300 but I had to stay at least 2 or 3 car lengths from other cars. Mark Jones and I raced many times on Axel's server. That may have been when my latency to Axel's server was usually 0.220. I'm in the southeast US while Mark lives in New Zealand. We managed to do well but I would see him warping some. I hope a latency limit wouldn't deny Jonny access. It would be like banning Emerson Fittipaldi from F1.

hehehehe thanks Greg!

 The race was a little crazy, we were all together at the beginning, Brands Hatch is painful at first until the tires have the right temperature. I was expecting everything to normalize to see what pace we would have. But when I saw the accident I realized I had a great chance. So I was very lucky to win this race, everyone who was in front of me in seconds was out of the way.
As for the rampant disco. I always ran on UKGPL without any problems, crashed in Buenos Aires last season, and some riders run on GPLBrasil without drama. Maybe it was something at the moment.

The race server,UKGPL_4, is up on iGOR for latency testing. Please try to connect and post your findings (good or bad) here.

 Last night one test in server UK_4 .....and its OK!!!!

Thanks JonnyO, I'm very pleased to hear that  ;D

Big Grats Jonny, GT & FB :thumbup1: ...in a somewhat unpredictable race with crash & disco :o

Qual:
Only 3rd in my Honda behind Tim (Honda) with a nice laptime ;)

Race:
Tim maybe slept a bit on the starting line & Tris making an opening & I was in the front :D
Lap 4, Tris tries an attack that pushes us both around...later I get sent off track to the audience & my race is over. Later again with a Honda, now it's Tim being sent around by Tris...don't you like Honda?
The least you could do after a race, just a little 'Sry' 8)

hi :)
Hum .... no, Pelle , I like the Honda , I like all cars and everybody ;).... it's seem that ( on my reaplay ) at lap 2, turn 2, it's a gpl bug !? 'cause I don't see any contact :/ ..... later in lap 4 ( ? )... you spinn a litttle, I am very close and spinn also a little ...then I'm sorry for this contact that I can avoid ..... later whith Tim he close the doors at turn 2 but I was there ....and contact impossible to avoid  .... sorry guys , but it 's dangerous to close too mutch doors ...;)