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Grid/server capacity: 22

Track: Monaco

Cars allowed: Alpine A364

Practice: ~19:20 (60 mins)
Qualifying: 20:20 (20 mins)
Race: 20:40 (28 laps)

Time of Day Setting: 14:00
Start: STANDING
Tyre wear: Normal
Fuel consumption: Normal
Pit stops required: No

Server: simracing.org.uk Mondays
Password: see above (#post_event_password)

Notes:
(1) It's best if all drivers can make sure they are connected before the Qualifying session as drivers on track during qualifying will not see cars that join after they are on track until they go back to the garage.
(2) Please make sure you are fully aware of the SimRacing.org.uk Rules.
(3) The AI control should be turned off so that you have control of the car at all times, including pitting. Your player file should therefore read
Autopit="0"
Force Autopit Off="1" // Forces autopit always off
No AI Control="1" // AI never has control over car
If you still finding pitting problematic, experience tells us that its less to do with positioning and more to do with approach speed. A slow approach to pit crew chief has proved most reliable.

Special Notes: I can see no start lights or flagman at this track. Probably a good idea to have auto countdown turned on.

CAR RESERVATIONS

#63 - Wiltshire Tony
#84 - Bob M
#50 - SpecialKS
#77 - S.Cargo
#9 - Roguk
#51 - Geoffers
#17 - phspok
#223 - EvilClive
#10 - Suti
#34 - Erling G-P
#62 - seniordan
#27 - Luis Mesquita
#28 - _osnikniess_
#79 - Ziu Bacubacu
#18 - nocatu
#5 - salesman

Just to get the ball rolling.............1:25.7 in race setup  :sweatdrop:

I may turn cuts of for this one. I was unfairly (IMO) given a cut when I went too wide at the Gas Works hairpin.

Hello!

When attempting to enter the server, this error message occurs.

I already have the track installed, but the error persists.

Suggestions?


(https://i.imgur.com/AcW0HIbl.png)

The server is currently set for tonight's GTL race. it will be set up for Monday's event late tonight, after the race.

Our main racing night is Wednesday's. Monday's races are a "bonus".

Understand.

I will practice offline for now.

Thanks for the info.

Come joining us on Wednesday nights too, if you like  ;)

Hi guys !
How are the fast laps in monaco?  ;D

I have just read this post, and I am impressed that you found somewhere to actually get your car off the circuit at Monaco. That takes a special sort of skill Tony.   :notworthy: :notworthy: :notworthy: :notworthy: :notworthy: :ninja:

Still 1:25.7 in race setup  :sweatdrop:

Can I ask that drivers show extra caution on the first lap of this event please, particularly at the first turn (St. Devote), thank you.

Cuts will be off for this race.

SO far I have managed a 1:25.1 but the time is mostly  about how much risk you take in the harbour.
Or you end up IN the harbour  :boat:

 :lol: :lol:

IMPORTANT

For pitting instructions at this track please refer to the two jpegs in the "Extras" folder. I think they are self explanatory. If a driver is pitting, following cars should stay in the far left hand lane to avoid colliding with a driver pitting.

Hey guys, I'll be taking part in the race tonight. I think #18 car hasn't been reserved by anyone else so can I have that one?

Oh, how do I get the server password?

Far off the pace with 1:31 up to now. But maybe I'll be the only one who survives and then grab the victory :lol:

Just heads up to check your install guys.
Yesterday I did a few laps on the server to check all was OK for toni9ght's race.  I had created a fresh install for these cars a couple of weeks ago, but I had forgotten to turn off the "Autopit" options.
So after a few abortive laps where I checked the strength of the Armco and the height of various kerbs I rounded the final hairpin for the first time to nail the gas and start my first flying lap....
Well that was what I intended to do, but GTL decided that I had strayed onto the "pit entry" area and took control of my car parking it neatly in my pit box!!

This track is possibly unusual because the pits are virtually on the track and so it is easy to stray onto the wrong area if you take a tight line out of that final hairpin. I do wonder if the "speeding in pit lane" penalty might be invoked if cars put wheels into the pit box area during the race??? This track is quite limited on passing places and the S/F straight is probably somewhere that an attempt to get alongside could be made with a good exit from that final corner? , and with 2 cars side by side a wheel might stray onto the pit apron?

So double check that "Autopit" is off, as per the instructions at the top of this thread and maybe Tony can advise on the pit lane speeding issue?

I certainly can Clive and a lot more besides.

I set out to investigate pitting on this track and I'm glad I did!

First off, cuts are off for this race so I believe that will avoid any pit lane cutting/speeding issues (I think  :wacko: )

To successfully pit you have to do this (and this is in contradiction to the two graphic images, which I think may only apply to GTR2 races).

1) After the hairpin, turn into the far right lane and go no faster than approx 8MPH/12KPH (way slower than pit limiter speed).

2) As you approach the first Shell board on your right you will see your pit man appear ahead of you. If your going to fast he will disappear and you will have to do another lap.

3) Stay in the far right lane and approach pit man at very slow speed and your pit board should appear.

4) When your pit stop has finished continue along the pit lane at Limiter speed and rejoin the main track when the yellow line on your left finishes. Then turn limiter off.

I would suggest that the above procedure is practiced as it is probably clearer to do than to read about.

IMPORTANT

I can see no start lights or flagman at this track. Probably a good idea to have auto countdown turned on.

Tony, does that imply that if you enter the right lane fast enough and the pit man disappears, the game doesn't think you want to pit, your lap is recorded and you get no pit lane speeding penalty ?

Yes, that is my understanding after testing. If you attempt a pit stop and it fails (pit man comes and goes) you still get a time when you cross the S/F line, and no pit lane speeding penalty.

EDIT: I would avoid using the far right hand lane for racing as you could hit a pitted car!

That's what I've been trying during practice, but sometimes you may end up straying into the right lane, and with more cars on the track, you might get forced into it.

Just a little clarification please Tony.  ;)  I admit that I have not, as yet, tried any of this out on the server, or offline, so maybe it would become clear if I got my a** in gear and did some proper practice  ::) .

item 1) states that we should enter pits extremely slowly, and suggests that the normal pit lane speed limiter is probably set too fast??
but
item 4) appears to indicate that we should have the limiter "on" until we reach the end of the pitlane, where we turn it off??

Just a little confused ( which is my normal mental state ) but are we to understand that the in game speed limiter, which in my case is invoked with the "z" key, is of no use as the car will be travelling too quickly? or is it functioning correctly because we should be using it as we approach the pit exit, where we turn it off??

I think I am reading that drivers need to monitor their own speed, which is dictated by whether the pit man is visible or not?....but I could be wrong

The pit lane entry speed should be as I stated e.g very, very, slow or the pit man will appear then disappear. Limiter on or off, makes no difference.

Pit exit should be at limiter speed e.g. not very, very, slow. This is purely to prevent cars screaming out of the pit lane into race traffic and to give race traffic a chance to see and avoid cars leaving the pit lane.

Hi Tony poss stupid question the race info says Monaco as if this is supplied with GTL game my GTL from Steam does not include Monaco, but i have in an old GTL folder a track called 1967 Monaco with a loading screen in black and white and GTR2 written on it, have tried going on server and it works, my question is this track correct and okay to use or will it cause errors when other drivers join

FWIW Rog. What you describe as the track file, is what I have... and I have tried an online session with it and suffered no probs...…….thus far  ::)

Just about to have another go to test out the pitstop issues, because in an earlier run I discovered that the front left tyre seems to wear VERY quickly. That might be a setup issue, or more likely my driving, but it does indicate that new rubber might be required during this race  :-\

I thought that I had sorted the "Autopit" issue, but for some reason GTL insists on reverting to AI control on each new boot??!!

I am certain that I have Admin authority to change the .plr file and it appears to accept the changes and also allows me to save the edited file ( it even asks if I want to save the changes!!). But when I reboot my install for the single seaters and run a few laps before trying a pit stop, by positioning my car against the Armco out of the final turn....the car lurches suddenly one car width to the left ( i.e. out into the racing zone ) for about 20mtrs before pulling back into the "pitlane".
Clearly this is less than ideal for tonight's race as it will probably cause a major crashfest!!

Thus far, everything that I have looked at appears to confirm that I have Admin rights, but I cannot get the edit to stick???

You should have Autopit set to 0 & Force Autopit Off set to 1 Clive, should work.

yup Geoff, just like it says on top post.

I have run through the edit about half a dozen times, and on each occasion it appears to accept the changes and "saves" the .plr file.
But when I get on the server …..still have AI taking control as I enter pit lane ???!!! :-\

No AI Control="1" // AI never has control over car (except autopit)

1967 Monaco was included in the download Tony supplied. So it'll be the correct one.

Hello!

I am practicing on the server. No problems so far.

Thanks for replies Clive and Eifelblitz, (i must be thick forgot download included tracks) now good to go.

That didn't last long, tapped into a spin at Station Hairpin & lost the engine. :(

Harbor Chicane got me!!  Still a personal best in laps completed,  Only had 13  in offline practice.  See you all at Mallory Pk.

Bob M.

I crash,  alone ... so sad ...   :(

Roger, Tony and yours Truly were the drivers that managed to finish the race. We switched off the lights and closed the gates and had a pint. We agreed that the driving standard was poor tonight.

cheers, Dan ;)

I got my mistake in early and lost the rear end just enough at the chicane to oversteer into the barriers and shed a wheel into the harbour  :-\
 
 I had been taking that chicane flat in 5th every time, but just once it had to go wrong, guess I should have known  ::)

Grats to those who were careful and smart enough to get to the finish.  ;)

Results and replay now posted.

A huge thanks to everyone who took part tonight. It really is most appreciated.  :winkiss:

A big hug goes out to all those who came to an abrupt end, but never have I raced Monaco when it wasn't a crash fest.

Good news is, all our remaining tracks are really great racing circuits (well nearly all).

So don't be discouraged, we need you fast guys to show us mere mortals how it's done  :notworthy:

Cheers

WT

If Nocatu and salesman fill in their Profile/Driver details/Country we can give you a little flag to wave.

Sure thing Tony!

 I messed up and hit the barrier at Tabac at lap 2 or 3, pressed the throttle more than I should have, hit the rear and then the front losing a wheel in the process.
The F3 is a fun little car. Not sure if I'll make it for the next one but I plan to show up regularly.
At least it was fun while it lasted ;D

It appears this car is considerably quicker than the real Alpine F3 car, quickest qually lap at the 1972 Monaco F3 race was 1m31.9s!

According to this link the real Alpine A364 had only about 125hp (1971) - if I remember right the GTL one has 180hp:
http://www.f3history.co.uk/Manufacturers/Alpine/alpine.htm?LMCL=UZTYYR (http://www.f3history.co.uk/Manufacturers/Alpine/alpine.htm?LMCL=UZTYYR)

Not going to do this series and only did Monaco because I love the track.  Would have liked to finish, but mistake at Harbor Chicane ended it rather abruptly. Congrats to Roger, Tony & Dan (The sole survivors!  :o)

 :'( Sorry to read that Erling. I'll keep your car in the garage in case you reconsider at a later date.

Sorry Tony; not that I don't want to, but can only cope with one series a week, so it's either this or the regular Wednesday races.

I understand

Result (https://www.avonrise.co.uk/srou/kurts/Monaco67_21102019)

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Thanks Kurt  :thumbup1: