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Title: UKGTL Season 19 1972 French Formula 3 - Rouen - Nov 11
Post by: Wiltshire Tony on September 27, 2019, 03:23:09 PM +0100
Championship standings HERE (https://www.simracing.org.uk/smf/index.php?action=LM2R&group=752&theme=5)

Grid/server capacity: 22

Track: Rouen (74-94 layout)

Cars allowed: Alpine A364

Practice: ~19:20 (60 mins)
Qualifying: 20:20 (20 mins)
Race: 20:40 (20 laps)

Time of Day Setting: 14:00
Start: STANDING
Tyre wear: Normal
Fuel consumption: Normal
Pit stops required: No

Server: simracing.org.uk Mondays
Password: see above (#post_event_password)

Notes:
(1) It's best if all drivers can make sure they are connected before the Qualifying session as drivers on track during qualifying will not see cars that join after they are on track until they go back to the garage.
(2) Please make sure you are fully aware of the SimRacing.org.uk Rules.
(3) The AI control should be turned off so that you have control of the car at all times, including pitting. Your player file should therefore read
Autopit="0"
Force Autopit Off="1" // Forces autopit always off
No AI Control="1" // AI never has control over car
If you still finding pitting problematic, experience tells us that its less to do with positioning and more to do with approach speed. A slow approach to pit crew chief has proved most reliable.

Special Notes: None


Title: Re: UKGTL Season 19 1972 French Formula 3 - Rouen - Nov 11
Post by: SpecialKS on November 08, 2019, 08:25:39 AM +0000
Some historic information (french):

(https://www.bilderhoster.net/thumbs/2zmbj8p2.jpg) (https://www.bilderhoster.net/2zmbj8p2.jpg.html)
(https://www.bilderhoster.net/thumbs/xt3sv7ff.jpg) (https://www.bilderhoster.net/xt3sv7ff.jpg.html)

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Title: Re: UKGTL Season 19 1972 French Formula 3 - Rouen - Nov 11
Post by: Wiltshire Tony on November 08, 2019, 10:26:26 AM +0000
Nice one Kurt  :thumbup1:


Title: Re: UKGTL Season 19 1972 French Formula 3 - Rouen - Nov 11
Post by: seniordan on November 11, 2019, 09:41:15 PM +0000
My old eyes missed the first (concrete?!) :cursing: marker at the chicane but the marker didn't miss my front wheel, so end of an entertaining few laps at Rouen.  I think it's fair to mention that actually Matt is to blame. Apparently gutted by losing his position at the start his pace was scary and he kept closing in by gaining tenths or more  lap by lap so maybe under the pressure I went in a tad too fast,lol. I think he would surely have caught me before lap 10.
I hope the rest of the pack were less unlucky and managed to finish their race.
Thanks for racing everybody and looking forward to the next meeting.

Cheers, Dan


Title: Re: UKGTL Season 19 1972 French Formula 3 - Rouen - Nov 11
Post by: phspok on November 11, 2019, 09:43:48 PM +0000
hehe, You were not alone Dan, Osni suffered the same fate on lap 1, and Geoffers had an issue somewhere
I had hit that left pole a few times in practice, so was giving it a wide berth.


Title: Re: UKGTL Season 19 1972 French Formula 3 - Rouen - Nov 11
Post by: S.Cargo on November 11, 2019, 09:54:04 PM +0000
After some practice I had the feeling that finishing the race would be good enough top get a decent final position... How right was I  8) (but I did not manage to "implement" my own self-advice  :clown: )
14 drivers at the start :clap: so I was not so sure that my "feeling" would be confirmed. Anyway I intended to play it rather safe during the race...

Things went well for about 3 laps, I was 4th following Geoffers but then I clipped one of the nasty little poles at the chicane entry and thought my race was over. But no, I was lucky and my car was undamaged :o so I could carry on, much lower in the classification but still in the race.
Thanks to other drivers misfortunes I could regain my 4th position, about 10 sec behind Nocatu but mostly loosing ground to him... until the 13th lap where the armco took away my two front wheels. :eek:
Game over!

Big congratulations to all finishers :thumbup2: (4 out of 14, this gives an idea how difficult this race course is)


Title: Re: UKGTL Season 19 1972 French Formula 3 - Rouen - Nov 11
Post by: Wiltshire Tony on November 11, 2019, 09:57:06 PM +0000
Results and replay now posted.


Title: Re: UKGTL Season 19 1972 French Formula 3 - Rouen - Nov 11
Post by: nocatu on November 11, 2019, 10:19:21 PM +0000
Nice race, I was very keen on finishing this one so I focused my setup towards the race and didn't put any quali laps in as I wanted to start at the back after what happened in the previous race.
During offline practice I noticed that the poles in that chicane can touch your wheel even if you're not actually coming into contact with them so I always kept my distance.
Towards the end I was near Rog but the tyres were pretty much gone; kept spinning so I figured I'd change the backs only. Silly me picked up a stop-go for speeding but luckily Suti was lapped before the end so the eventual penalty didn't cost me a position!


Title: Re: UKGTL Season 19 1972 French Formula 3 - Rouen - Nov 11
Post by: phspok on November 11, 2019, 10:38:24 PM +0000
More would have finished if we using the old version without that nasty chicane with the poles and tyres
But we are doing 1972, so it is the right course to use.
I had one spin somewhere, but was lucky to not hit anything


Title: Re: UKGTL Season 19 1972 French Formula 3 - Rouen - Nov 11
Post by: SpecialKS on November 12, 2019, 05:50:11 AM +0000
Simply no luck in this series like many others. It's fun driving these cars anyway.


Title: Re: UKGTL Season 19 1972 French Formula 3 - Rouen - Nov 11
Post by: S.Cargo on November 12, 2019, 07:40:36 AM +0000
During offline practice I noticed that the poles in that chicane can touch your wheel even if you're not actually coming into contact with them...
Ah! That explains it then (I really thought I was somewhat clear of the pole when "it hit me" ;D )


Title: Re: UKGTL Season 19 1972 French Formula 3 - Rouen - Nov 11
Post by: Geoffers on November 12, 2019, 08:53:20 AM +0000
More would have finished if we using the old version without that nasty chicane with the poles and tyres
But we are doing 1972, so it is the right course to use.

I was just researching this & according to this website the chicane wasn't used until 1974. But I don't think the track is available without the chicane but with the then new link section.

http://theracingline.net/racingcircuits/France/Rouen74.html

Anyway not a long race for me, caught the kerb at the chicane on lap 3 & trying to avoid the tyres I lost the rear & slammed into the barriers losing a wheel. Doh!

Congrats to Matt, Rog & Nocatu.  :clap: :clap: :clap:


Title: Re: UKGTL Season 19 1972 French Formula 3 - Rouen - Nov 11
Post by: Wiltshire Tony on November 12, 2019, 10:04:40 AM +0000
More would have finished if we using the old version without that nasty chicane with the poles and tyres
But we are doing 1972, so it is the right course to use.

I was just researching this & according to this website the chicane wasn't used until 1974. But I don't think the track is available without the chicane but with the then new link section.

http://theracingline.net/racingcircuits/France/Rouen74.html

Anyway not a long race for me, caught the kerb at the chicane on lap 3 & trying to avoid the tyres I lost the rear & slammed into the barriers losing a wheel. Doh!

Congrats to Matt, Rog & Nocatu.  :clap: :clap: :clap:
Correct. When used in '72 it was the short track format but without the chicane. I was not able to source a mod in this form so had to go with the '74 version with it's chicane added.


Title: Re: UKGTL Season 19 1972 French Formula 3 - Rouen - Nov 11
Post by: Bob M. on November 12, 2019, 02:11:01 PM +0000
Got caught up in the wrecks at the chicane on lap 3.  Cars was wounded but drove around the track to the pits for repairs.  Crew worked on it for what seemed forever.    Restarted after the pits and noticed the car would only run at about half speed.  Also wouldn't turn so went into the armco.  Red mist took over and I punched out.  You would think that as fragile that these cars are that the pit crews would be able to fix them right.  Oh well maybe next week will be better!!!

Bob M.


Title: Re: UKGTL Season 19 1972 French Formula 3 - Rouen - Nov 11
Post by: Wiltshire Tony on November 12, 2019, 02:24:03 PM +0000
Got caught up in the wrecks at the chicane on lap 3.  Cars was wounded but drove around the track to the pits for repairs.  Crew worked on it for what seemed forever.    Restarted after the pits and noticed the car would only run at about half speed.  Also wouldn't turn so went into the armco.  Red mist took over and I punched out.  You would think that as fragile that these cars are that the pit crews would be able to fix them right.  Oh well maybe next week will be better!!!

Bob M.
You lost a front wheel after your Armco hit and unfortunately this will not be fixed in the pit stop.


Title: Re: UKGTL Season 19 1972 French Formula 3 - Rouen - Nov 11
Post by: EvilClive on November 12, 2019, 03:15:34 PM +0000
My race was hardly a triumph either...
Lap 1 I managed to be hit by the concrete posts ( although I am sure that I left enough room!!) but was fortunate that all the wheels remained attached. I was unfortunate that the engine stalled because I was using the "H" shifter and the car was still in gear. It took me about 20 secs to get the engine re-started  :-\
Rejoined dead last and tried to keep the damned thing on the grey stuff eventually caught Suti who had obviously "had a moment" and followed him for a few laps until I think he allowed me to pass. Whereupon I promptly spun it at the exit of the chicane, but avoided hitting anything hard.
It was at around this point that I wondered if the "3" in the Formula 3 description referred to the number of wheels that these cars are supposed to have  ???  I lost count of the cars that I passed that were leaving a trail of sparks and smoke as their drivers tried to make it to the sanctuary of the pits  ::)
It was as well that I did not laugh ( well, not too loudly) at their misfortune because it was not so many laps later that a little brain befuddlement about where exactly the gearstick should be caused me to go one better than them and rip 2 wheels off  :-\
Race over  :(

Grats to those who made it to the flag and finished with a whole car.


Title: Re: UKGTL Season 19 1972 French Formula 3 - Rouen - Nov 11
Post by: roguk on November 12, 2019, 04:12:46 PM +0000
Hi on lap 2 hit pole on entry to chicane, which spun the car into the fencing,lucky no damage and was able to rejoin, latter part of race Nocatu closed up on me but a few laps from the end he pitted.

Grats to Matt on win

Grats to Nocatu on podium

Grats to Suti 4th


Title: Re: UKGTL Season 19 1972 French Formula 3 - Rouen - Nov 11
Post by: _osnikniess_ on November 12, 2019, 05:42:56 PM +0000
https://youtu.be/ckv00vN45pk

https://youtu.be/6v0UWlCL1Hw

What a bad luck to the Brazilian boys in this race!

 >:(


Title: Re: UKGTL Season 19 1972 French Formula 3 - Rouen - Nov 11
Post by: Wiltshire Tony on November 12, 2019, 06:09:05 PM +0000
https://youtu.be/ckv00vN45pk

https://youtu.be/6v0UWlCL1Hw

What a bad luck to the Brazilian boys in this race!

 >:(
These are great clips, thanks for sharing.

Can I ask though.........in future could you mention Simracing.org.uk in your clips. Every bit of free publicity could attract more drivers.


Title: Re: UKGTL Season 19 1972 French Formula 3 - Rouen - Nov 11
Post by: _osnikniess_ on November 12, 2019, 08:50:56 PM +0000
https://youtu.be/ckv00vN45pk

https://youtu.be/6v0UWlCL1Hw

What a bad luck to the Brazilian boys in this race!

 >:(
These are great clips, thanks for sharing.

Can I ask though.........in future could you mention Simracing.org.uk in your clips. Every bit of free publicity could attract more drivers.

Yes, I can insert in the next videos!
Hope you like it.
Here the video link with the changes.

https://youtu.be/_jWu2Pg-ib4







Title: Re: UKGTL Season 19 1972 French Formula 3 - Rouen - Nov 11
Post by: Wiltshire Tony on November 12, 2019, 11:54:47 PM +0000
https://youtu.be/ckv00vN45pk

https://youtu.be/6v0UWlCL1Hw

What a bad luck to the Brazilian boys in this race!

 >:(
These are great clips, thanks for sharing.

Can I ask though.........in future could you mention Simracing.org.uk in your clips. Every bit of free publicity could attract more drivers.

Yes, I can insert in the next videos!
Hope you like it.
Here the video link with the changes.

https://youtu.be/_jWu2Pg-ib4

 :yes: :yes: :yes: :thumbup1: :thumbup1: :thumbup1:


Title: Re: UKGTL Season 19 1972 French Formula 3 - Rouen - Nov 11
Post by: SpecialKS on November 14, 2019, 07:45:48 PM +0000
Result (https://www.avonrise.co.uk/srou/kurts/Rouen_11.11.2019)

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Title: Re: UKGTL Season 19 1972 French Formula 3 - Rouen - Nov 11
Post by: Wiltshire Tony on November 15, 2019, 12:17:10 AM +0000
Result (https://www.avonrise.co.uk/srou/kurts/Rouen_11.11.2019)

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Thanks Kurt  :thumbup1: