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https://youtu.be/SHvIY-jvTfs (https://youtu.be/SHvIY-jvTfs)
Review of the 1975 F1 season, in 4 parts

Starts Weds 20th November

Modpack install required:-

Download F1 1975 Mod (version 1.2):
http://www.mediafire.com/file/hngms2664ytb92s/20191104_F1C75_Historic_F1_by_Bazza_v1.05_v1.2.7z/file (http://www.mediafire.com/file/hngms2664ytb92s/20191104_F1C75_Historic_F1_by_Bazza_v1.05_v1.2.7z/file)
Pay attention to install notes in pdf included with Mod - You need to copy some files over for the Lotus 72 & Ferrari 312

Points
Points for the proposed series are adopted from the modern F1 series (excluding pole point). I almost adopted the historic points system but it only rewards the top 6 and i would prefer to encourage people to have something to race for.

1st= 25pts  2nd=18   3rd=15   12   10   8   6   4   2   10th=1pt

Calendar:-

Buenos Aires GP
https://www.dropbox.com/s/gf4wvdd26l503c7/Buenos%20Aires%201979%20v1.0%20by%20Rainmaker.7z?dl=0 (https://www.dropbox.com/s/gf4wvdd26l503c7/Buenos%20Aires%201979%20v1.0%20by%20Rainmaker.7z?dl=0)

Brazil de Interlagos '75
https://www.mediafire.com/file/rzf85unu4fmweq0/interlagos_1975.zip/file (https://www.mediafire.com/file/rzf85unu4fmweq0/interlagos_1975.zip/file)

South Africa  Kyalami '67
http://www.mediafire.com/file/alyx6l5jyhd7qed/kyalami1967.rar/file (http://www.mediafire.com/file/alyx6l5jyhd7qed/kyalami1967.rar/file)

Spain (Montjuic)
https://www.dropbox.com/s/a3aowdckrfwikks/Montjuich%201975%20v1.01%20by%20Rainmaker.7z?dl=0 (https://www.dropbox.com/s/a3aowdckrfwikks/Montjuich%201975%20v1.01%20by%20Rainmaker.7z?dl=0)

Monaco
https://www.racedepartment.com/downloads/monaco-2k.26325/ (https://www.racedepartment.com/downloads/monaco-2k.26325/)

Belgium - Zolder '67
https://www.racedepartment.com/downloads/zolder-1967-v-2.18383/ (https://www.racedepartment.com/downloads/zolder-1967-v-2.18383/)
   
Sweden  Scandinavian Raceway - Anderstorp   https://www.dropbox.com/s/i1mi2hi18eixqti/Anderstorp%202007%20v1.2%20by%20Rainmaker.7z?dl=0 (https://www.dropbox.com/s/i1mi2hi18eixqti/Anderstorp%202007%20v1.2%20by%20Rainmaker.7z?dl=0)

Netherlands
(stock Kunos track)

France Circuit - Charade
https://www.racedepartment.com/downloads/charade-_spc2018.19689/ (https://www.racedepartment.com/downloads/charade-_spc2018.19689/)

Great Britain Silverstone 67
(stock kunos track)

Germany  Nürburgring Nordschleiffe
(stock Kunos track)

Austria Österreichring
(link to follow)

Italy   Monza (Road Course '66)
(Stock Kunos track)

United States  Watkins glen (boot classic)
https://www.racedepartment.com/downloads/watkins-glen-international.20204/ (https://www.racedepartment.com/downloads/watkins-glen-international.20204/)

I only want to allow a max 2 identical cars (ie 2 Ferraris etc to represent team cars) and for variety on the grid.

Race length = 45mins

Driver list with car choice (Latest)

1)MJ - Brabham
2)Max Veloce - Mclaren
3)Stefan (Postal) - Brabham (or Tyrell)
4)Fabri - Ferrari
5)Bob - Fittipaldi
6)FMG - Hesketh
7)Kdiesel - BRM
8)Jeff - ?
9)Picnic - ?
10)Goldtop - Parnelli
11)SirBarone - Ferrari
12) L4de - Lotus
13)ibnsolmyer - Surtees
14)LesN - March
15)Olius - ?
16)Cerebral Vortex - Mclaren
17)Syd Drake - Tyrell

#metoo!!

I'm in.
There is the possibility that I will soon change city for work, I hope to have time for racing.

I like the idea of only 2 identical cars. I would prefer the points system of the old F1, for the reasons I have often said. We did a championship in the SRO group and they used the old points system, it was very nice.

About tracks, '70s offer so many cool circuits.  8)

I think in this era they didn't pit-stops.

i know what you mean about points but then where is the incentive for sim racers to keep going or fight harder for positions if there is no points at the end of it? Alas we dont get prize money and go-go girls for our achievements  ;D

Pitstops, well i dont mind either way but thought throwing a stop in might mix it up a bit. But happy to drop if most would prefer no stop.

I'll be there hopefully.

i found a link for Anderstorp, so thats another ticked off  :) albeit its the modern version of it, like most links.  
http://www.mediafire.com/file/95p82qg99fwjabc/Anderstorp_2007_v1.2_by_Rainmaker.7z/file (http://www.mediafire.com/file/95p82qg99fwjabc/Anderstorp_2007_v1.2_by_Rainmaker.7z/file)

Just need Argentina now for the full 1975 calendar, otherwise we can replace it with somewhere else.

hmm, seems it was never finished  :-\ last dated 2017.
https://www.racedepartment.com/downloads/aut%C3%B3dromo-juan-y-oscar-g%C3%A1lvez.15294/ (https://www.racedepartment.com/downloads/aut%C3%B3dromo-juan-y-oscar-g%C3%A1lvez.15294/)

Mosport was used in the 1976 F1 season, how about we use that instead of Argentina?  There was also Long Beach in 76 which i quite fancy using but again, cant find the link even though there are Youtube vids of it in AC.  ???

Is this it? http://assetto-db.com/track/long_beach_2012/long_beach_2012

Not 75 version tho  :(

That might do thanks Tony, though there is a 2019 version that is supposed to much improved over this one. :-\

I'll be there obviously ;)

Looking good with the track roster MJ!  :thumbup1:

I don't know how much attention you would get but if it's a case of "nothing ventured, nothing gained" I would suggest posting an announcement in the Steam Assetto Corsa discussion area.

I'll give it a go when I'm able

I'm in with BRM.

Would prefer the Fittipaldi.

I'll pick up the scraps and take whatever is left.

I like the Williams. Unfortunately the Merzario's car has some issue in the skin.

I'm definitely in although I might have to miss the odd race due to work commitments  :( Not sure which car to go for yet but might be worth having a provisional driver/car list in the first post to help us choose.

goodstuff GT, only 2 drivers have stated a car preference so far and that only applies to the series when it starts as the test race you can take whatever car you wish (as long as its available)

My vote would be to patch now.

The mod was updated 18 months ago. The changes affect the handling so if drivers are going to spend time tweaking setups for Wednesday's race they'll only need to start again for the series.

 :yes:

Can you do it after the gtl race tomorrow eve? If you can’t I’ll leave it until after the weds race otherwise some will be patched and some not and screw the race up.

We need the link to the patch too but i suggest nobody installs it until srw has it on the server.

@ SRW, i have sent you the 1.1 patch link via pm (courtesy of Goldtop). If you can post up on here as soon as its installed, i will notify everyone else on the race thread and here. Thanks

I will update the server after the prehistoric races tonight

Does anyone have any objection to me doing it before 7pm if I get a chance?

That should be ok, but please be off the server by 20:00 as that is when I will need to monitor stuff.

After the relative success and interest shown in the test race last night i think we have a go-er for a new series. However i am away in Japan for 2wks in about a weeks time so it will have to wait until after that. So i think we can arrange another test race on a different kind of circuit to get a handle on the various cars. Any suggestions? Can either be one of the tracks off the proposed calendar or even somewhere different.
Having a practise server up well in advance is very useful for trying out the different cars.

I see netherlands in the list so I guess thats zandvoort, in which case I vote for that as you cant get much different from silverstone  ;D

I have a very nice 60's version of Zandvoort but can't remember where I got it from.

Edit: found it, but it is payware. There is an official "test" version available at RD which is the same as the payware version but without the visual detail and without the choice of alternative road meshes. The "test" version still looks and drives great!

https://www.racedepartment.com/downloads/sandevoerde-test-version.17404/

Old Sandevoerde gets my vote as i wanted somewhere with a few more twists and turns. Maybe if someone owns the payware version we could drop in the visual files  :shifty: I might buy it anyway if it looks great. (Would it cause a mis-match?)
But sure the test version will suit our test perfectly.

As i mentioned in the silverstone test thread, we will use a drivers entry file for this series to ensure we all get our chosen car to race with, but for these test races its a free for all.

What you do behind closed doors is your business but as a league we shouldn't be promoting such ideas IMHO

This is AC's biggest bugbear in my book. Because some of the entry list can prove awkward I'd suggest a test race first where we use it rather than hoping everything is right on the night. If we don't allow guest drivers I think we can ensure everybody does get exactly what they want. Might not even need a password in this case! I need to remind myself of the exact behaviour here.

If all goes to plan I will be home as of tomorrow night but the race seat breaks the rules for my hip replacement so I may still be a few weeks off from actually being on track with you all :'(

free version  - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kl8beYR0UoM

pay version - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dLYKr-argNA

there've been a few updates to it since then, but its still pretty similar...



accepting not everyone is going to want to buy it just for one race,  I'd be ok racing the free version

I think I've the pay version too, used for a race with another group.

i'm happy to buy the full fat version as i like my realism, but i'm worried it'll cause a mis-match with the freebie version or shouldnt it be an issue as presume it just has extra graphics files?  :-\

understood on testing the driver entry file, maybe we'd need a 3rd test race for that because at the moment i think people would like time to test and try out the 15 different cars available as they all have subtle differences in handling/power delivery.

I just compared the files,  the main track .kn5 (which I believe the game uses for cheat checking / mismatch errors) is totally different,  so it has to be one or the other

This is the presumed driver line up (so far) for the upcoming F1 '75 series. Please feel free to let others know/make invites etc. as i am now away for a couple of weeks. Its not bad at a potential 13 drivers, but be nice to get 15 or more. Not sure if Jeff is still intending to race?

1)MJ
2)Max Veloce
3)Stefan (Postal)
4)Fabri
5)Bob - Fittipaldi
6)FMG
7)Kdiesel - BRM
8)Jeff
9)Picnic
10)Goldtop
11)SirBarone?
12) L4de
13) The other Finn!
14)ibnsolmyer

I havent decided on the Argentina replacement yet (typically its round 1 !) so may start with Brazil instead. I like the idea of running Long Beach but havent had a chance to test the track. If someone can test it while i'm away that would be useful. Need to know if it works on the server too. I think a gritty street track would be fun in these and a nice challenge.

As much as I want to take part I think it'll be another 4-6 weeks before I'll be allowed back in the racing seat, it breaks all the rules for hip flex since my replacement  :'(

At least I am home again so should be able to help out again with server stuff, I'll get ACC updated once 1.1 lands

yeah I should be in, maybe not in all races most on most of them!

glad to hear you are back at home  :)

I am looking forward to doing another race in ACC. maybe we could try one this Wednesday.

Hello all !

Some here could remember me as an old GTL/PnG driver, mostly from the vanished and regretted NoGrip place. Nicely got my attention on your series thanks to Fabrizio, I might be in if you're ok with this.
Though I don't know this mod pack appearently..  :-\

See you.. :)

Hi. I believe we have raced each other before. Good to see you have found our little corner of simracing on the web. We are in the process of testing this mod ourselves, so you are right on time. Championship should start within a couple of weeks.

We tend to have races with classic cars on a fairly regular basis, so you'll probably feel right at home as i did when racing at NoGrip.

Yes, I remember Mark J, Bob, Kimi, Jeff, Goldtop and Lade too, but no so sure about some of them being the same persons I was used to race with.
Been a long time..  ::)

By the way, wasn't this site related to "junkies" at some point ? I was looking for this simracingjunkies.xxx site or something, these last days, but couldn't find it anymore. Or it the same forum ? I don't remember.

 ???

 ;D

Sim-junkies was a different site which has now deceased.

BTW we now host No-grip GTL events here. Maybe you should have a look around here https://www.simracing.org.uk/smf/index.php?topic=14995.msg273262#msg273262 and see if any of your old mates are there.

We are same old farts, still doing this...and saga continues. :D I remember you Solmyr, nice to see that you are back.

Yes !!
Damn, nostalgia is getting me ! :D

 Thank you for the link.

Hello Kimi !

Yep, I remember some great racing over at NG with GTL and PnG and I remember you too Solmyr, always a pleasure to race with  8) Good to have you over here and look forward to seeing you out on track again  :thumbup1:

Hey Goldtop ! :)
So you guys also race AC now ?

Nice to see you here!

Yep, you'll find a few familiar names in the AC events  :yes:

By the way, where can we download this '75 F1 mod pack plz ?

F1 1975 Carset
http://www.mediafire.com/file/u3zihr7yj1c8y2i/F1C75_Historic_F1_by_Bazza_v1.05.rar/file

Then add the physics update v1.1 (Need Full Mod v1.05 as base)
http://www.mediafire.com/file/5b16v6648dw657x/F1C75+Historic+F1+Physics+update+v1.1+by+Bazza.rar

Thank you very much !

Greetings from Japan! (Writing this onboard a Shinkansen bullet train  8) )

Where has my last post gone on this thread?  ??? I had typed up the provisional calendar with track links and some options on a few of the listed circuits - it’s gone  :'( has someone removed it by accident? I kept editing it so was definitely posted in various forms. Did it morning of day I went away and took about an hour. Bummer. Had asked for some help testing the options as I am away.
Hoping to start the new championship on weds 13th November as I will need a week to get a drivers file sorted and test a few tracks when I get back.

Mmm I have no problems in starting the championship from like the 4th of December... Then we have enough time for some more testing.  :whistling:

Oh, here is some footage of our test venue @classic Silverstone
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e2k2J-_1HAM (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e2k2J-_1HAM)

Could this explain it? https://www.simracing.org.uk/smf/index.php?topic=16421.msg302503#new

Damn that’s painful. The thought of re-finding all the various links  :'(

Konichiwa gents, I have returned from my travels. (Awesome country, cant recommend Japan enough, loved it  :) ) Feels like I've been away for 3 weeks as we saw so much.

Does anyone on here have Interlagos 1975 installed? Its available but I cannot find a good link and want to try it out for quality. It has been used elsewhere for online racing so assume its good enough and bug-free. Otherwise we will use the modern version. There is also a 60's/70's version of Watkins glen but not sure its as good as the more recent 'modern' release that contains the classic boot layout anyway. The latter looks and feels far better quality but is slightly atmosphere spoilt by the modern high catch fencing.

Provisional Calendar:-

Fuji '68 (F1 Layout)
https://www.racedepartment.com/downloads/fuji-speedway-1968.15837/ (https://www.racedepartment.com/downloads/fuji-speedway-1968.15837/)

Brazil de Interlagos '75
https://www.mediafire.com/file/rzf85unu4fmweq0/interlagos_1975.zip/file (https://www.mediafire.com/file/rzf85unu4fmweq0/interlagos_1975.zip/file)

South Africa  Kyalami '67

Spain (Montjuic)
https://www.dropbox.com/s/a3aowdckrfwikks/Montjuich%201975%20v1.01%20by%20Rainmaker.7z?dl=0 (https://www.dropbox.com/s/a3aowdckrfwikks/Montjuich%201975%20v1.01%20by%20Rainmaker.7z?dl=0)

Monaco
https://www.racedepartment.com/downloads/monaco-2k.26325/ (https://www.racedepartment.com/downloads/monaco-2k.26325/)

Belgium - Zolder '67
https://www.racedepartment.com/downloads/zolder-1967-v-2.18383/ (https://www.racedepartment.com/downloads/zolder-1967-v-2.18383/)
   
Sweden  Scandinavian Raceway - Anderstorp   https://www.dropbox.com/s/i1mi2hi18eixqti/Anderstorp%202007%20v1.2%20by%20Rainmaker.7z?dl=0 (https://www.dropbox.com/s/i1mi2hi18eixqti/Anderstorp%202007%20v1.2%20by%20Rainmaker.7z?dl=0)

Netherlands
(stock Kunos track)

France Circuit - Charade
https://www.racedepartment.com/downloads/charade-_spc2018.19689/ (https://www.racedepartment.com/downloads/charade-_spc2018.19689/)

Great Britain Silverstone 67
(stock kunos track)

Germany  Nürburgring Nordschleiffe
(stock Kunos track)

Austria Österreichring

Italy   Monza (Road Course '66)
(Stock Kunos track)

United States  Watkins glen (boot classic)
https://www.racedepartment.com/downloads/watkins-glen-international.20204/ (https://www.racedepartment.com/downloads/watkins-glen-international.20204/)

All are good for pitboxes. Track list is based on the 1975 F1 season though I have replaced round1 Argentina with Fuji (as used in '76) because there is no Argentina track for AC. I have also swapped Paul Ricard for Pau '74 as the latter is a good street circuit and more historic than the brightly painted modern Paul Ricard. Will put links up or a dropbox link to the mod tracks needed.

Will need peoples car choices pretty soon to get a drivers file knocked up. Hopefully Pete can put a practise server up once we get the list put together and people can check their car appears correctly.

This is the longest calendar seen, an entire F1 season; I really like this idea. Thank you Mark. With historical sistem points should be great.  ::)  :angel: Full historical, my dream!

About tracks:
Monaco: I think the modern layout is the more close to '75 one
Belgium: Zolder?
Netherlands: old Zandvoort?
France: I can suggest also Charade
United States: Watkins glen; this track has really bad colors.

*Canada is also a possible choise. 

how soon,  I havn't tested anything yet  :laugh:


heck yes, Charade is well made and much better for overtaking than that silly street circuit  :)

Not tried Charade in AC but if it’s good we can use that instead of Pau (which I like but did wonder if it might be impossible to pass anyone  :-\ )

I assumed Belgium to be Spa but will check if it was Zolder in ‘75.
Monaco is the modern version.
Netherlands, I’d like to use the old one but it would need to have all drivers willing to buy it  :-\

Re: how soon, we’ll I was hoping to start the new series on the 13th but that may get pushed back a week, not sure yet. So get testing! Remember only 2 of each type is available and the car you pick stays the same for the season.

It was Zolder, I think.

You know, I cant be bothered spend hours testing the cars to pick a fav so I'm going to say mclaren and just make the best of it.

I'll take the Parnelli then please as that's the car I've driven most. Actually there were some some single entry teams in '75....the Parnelli is one of them and I'm guessing the Fittipaldi is another example.

I have a copy of Interlagos '75 and it is superb  8) I'll try to dig up a link if you like.

I will take the Williams.

Will stay at the back with Fittipaldi.  ;D

Charade gets my vote too. Great track!
Although I will probably miss most of this series  :-\

Updated drivers (and cars) list

1)MJ - Brabham (or Shadow)
2)Max Veloce - Mclaren
3)Stefan (Postal) - Brabham (or Tyrell)
4)Fabri - Williams
5)Bob - Fittipaldi
6)FMG
7)Kdiesel - BRM
8)Jeff
9)Picnic
10)Goldtop - Parnelli
11)SirBarone - Williams
12) L4de - Lotus
13) The other Finn! - Jari?
14)ibnsolmyer -

yes please  :) can you check how many pitboxes it has too?

Me too if possible

I need to see if I can get the March to drive nicely as I like the orange one.
Any chance of a test race this weds and the V8/Bathurst race next weds?

I'd quite like to take the Hesketh as it's too important not to be represented, although as it's one of the more powerful DFV cars I worry that maybe I should pick something slower like the Stewart I drove at Silverstone or the slightly underpowered March..

I'm also quote a fan of the BRM. It's slow, but handles brilliantly

I hope someone will take the 312T and Lotus too

Hi.Im in whith Lotus.

alright. I would like the BT-44 please. (2nd choice is the Tyrell)

in case people didnt notice, if you go back to page 4 of this thread, most track links have been populated now, still a few to do.

But unless i get people's car choices then we cannot get a drivers entry file together and test it before the first race.

We now have an update to this mod  :)

Version 1.2

Changelog:

General Physics tweaks for further improved FFB; Updated Sounds (credits to 386)
Overhauled physics for McLaren M23
Added Tyrrell P34 Bonus Car
Added LOD's for all cars

The previous update (which wecurrently use) was over a year ago so personally I think it is worth updating to this one before we start a championship.

Most definitely  :) almost perfect timing and well found GT, have you got a link? when i google search it i get nothing  ??? only a site where they want 10 euros for the free mod  :P

So who is going to take the 6-wheeler?  :o ;D

Not me. I am convinced that two wheels are all you need to have fun!  :)   So for simracing I draw the line at 4 max.

New banner so i can advertise it on Kunos' site  :)

(https://i.postimg.cc/T1wSCtyG/1975-Italian-GP-race-start-Niki-Lauda-Clay-Regazzoni-Ferrar.jpg) (https://postimages.org/)

Why has Glen got a little "g"  :)

The latest version of the F1 75 mod is here (Courtesy of Goldtop)  :)

http://www.mediafire.com/file/hngms2664ytb92s/20191104_F1C75_Historic_F1_by_Bazza_v1.05_v1.2.7z/file (http://www.mediafire.com/file/hngms2664ytb92s/20191104_F1C75_Historic_F1_by_Bazza_v1.05_v1.2.7z/file)

I would suggest you all install it in anticipation of the new series and I am also hoping to run a test race tomorrow night if Picnic can install it in time on the server.  :)

You need all links and driver lists populated in the first post Mark.
Drivers who get that far won't bother going further if they're expected to wade through a thread to find stuff!

Also, your Google skills are terrible - it was about the 6th link for me  :P
https://www.gtplanet.net/forum/threads/assetto-corsa-pc-mod-discussion.307899/page-599#post-12917331 (https://www.gtplanet.net/forum/threads/assetto-corsa-pc-mod-discussion.307899/page-599#post-12917331)
I'm currently downloading and can't wait to try the insanity of the Tyrrell  8)

It looks like most of the cars should have the same physics still, so that at least should mean all previous tests are still relevant.
I need to try a few more cars tonight - although I'm leaning towards the Hesketh as Hunt was 'exuberant' in driving style and always had his shepherd with him when he raced. I fit both criteria  ;)

That said the Tyrrell is a tad unhinged and I fit that bill too....

I will try for first time the 312T (mod version), in the case me and Barone should can switch the Ferrari? It is a shame have not those red things on the grid.

Ferrari is definitely fast.
I tried it last night at Zandy, I had spent a good hour or more on the Hesketh setup from the last fun race. I spent 10 mins on the Ferrari and went .1 faster within 5 laps on the same tires and fuel load.

It needs to be driven in a particular manner to go fast though, kind of like the Brabham does.
With time spent on the setup it should be very fast, as per real life.

If Ferrari is so fast is not so good. I had choise Williams because it is medium performaces car.

First post updated with all the latest information. Advert posted on Kunos site. Still missing half the grids car choice  :hammer:
Let anybody know that might want to race this series. What about the other Italians that used to race here? Matteo etc.  :-\
we only have 14 runners so far and of them i doubt Jeffs going to show as not heard a peep from him and Picnic might only be a part time racer along with one or two others, so we could do with a few more drivers to fill out the grid.

Surprised nobody has snapped up a Ferrari. I would have been tempted but the engine note gives me a headache in the Rift. Doesnt sound as good as it should.

I was hoping to run a test race this eve using the latest mod update, but cant get hold of Pete so unless SRW can upload the latest mod to the server we are stumped.

we even have the potential to run a couple of extra races if we feel we havent had our fill  :walkman: :-

Non-championship races results
Other Formula One races were also held in 1975, which did not count towards the World Championship.

Race Name                           Circuit   
United Kingdom X Race of Champions   - Brands Hatch
United Kingdom XXVII - BRDC International Trophy - Silverstone   
France XV - Swiss Grand Prix - Dijon-Prenois

I will not have time to load it up for a race tonight  :(

okay no problem SRW. Pete is also unable to upload it so i'm afraid we are without a race this evening.  :(
 Is Max around to host an impromptu test race session with his spare rig? (would need the new 1.2 update installed).

I may also have found Buenos Aires for AC so the calendar may yet revert to that for round 1 once i have tested it. Though if someone is home kicking their heels you are welcome to give it a run:-

https://www.dropbox.com/s/gf4wvdd26l503c7/Buenos%20Aires%201979%20v1.0%20by%20Rainmaker.7z?dl=0 (https://www.dropbox.com/s/gf4wvdd26l503c7/Buenos%20Aires%201979%20v1.0%20by%20Rainmaker.7z?dl=0)

Will put this to your votes, but there is a Nordschleiffe 65 track available (made by the renowned Rainmaker). Should we use this for atmosphere or stick to the modern Kunos version?

Can you put a link up?
I have a classic Nordschlief (67 I think it's called) and don't rate it Vs the kunos track.
It's just a converted GPL track with a few 3d bits thrown in and very poor track mesh.

If it's the same one then as I said earlier in this thread I really don't recommend it

Just put sumthing up for tonite, finns are in for sure. :)

I can try hosting one tonight

will Brands GP do, since everyone is sure to have that...

you read my mind as was going to suggest Brands GP after seeing it was used as a non-points round this morning  :)

Dont forget to patch to 1.2 though for the f1 mod (if not already).


@fmg, here is a link to the '65 Nords track
https://www.mediafire.com/file/3yzvmm2f1xfhkl9/N%25C3%25BCrburgring_1965_v1.0_by_Rainmaker.7z/file (https://www.mediafire.com/file/3yzvmm2f1xfhkl9/N%25C3%25BCrburgring_1965_v1.0_by_Rainmaker.7z/file)

ok, server is up and running (1.2 patch),  Brands GP,  15m qually, 45min race

I put 2 cars for each popular team, and 1 for the less popular to hit the max 24 car grid (brands limit), so hopefully everyone gets the car they expect



server:  zzmax (simracing.org.uk)   -  toggle the server names list to reverse order and its at the top!
password:  75fun

I jumped on and did a couple of laps, seems ok to me, but if someone else can test it and shout back that'd be great  :)

Got on OK.

thanks Bob  :thumbup1:

Had a quick few laps around Buenos Aires and it seems ok. This is a port from GTR2 so it doesn't look amazing but it's a decent circuit with some fast corners and some technical sections. There are a couple of bumps but once you know where they are they're no problem. 22 pitboxes.

I've raced here before, maybe F1 1988....anyone remember that series  ;D

Thanks for testing GT, i'll try and run a few laps tonight.

Pleased to confirm we will be using Buenos Aires for Round 1 as per the real 1975 series  :)  Did some laps tonight with a full AI grid and Its a great race track and somewhere I haven't raced before. I will get the banner and first post updated when I get a chance.

ok thats cool having a new challenge.  :thumbup1:

Please put me in the Hesketh.
I've done considerable testing and it is currently giving (me) midfield pace Vs the faster cars.
Should slow me down a bit, at least until I properly suss the setups  :ninja:

What is midfield pace though ???

I rung the neck of the Mclaren to get p4 on the grid, and in the race I had no answer for Jaris pace in the lotus while he was ahead - he actually pulled away from me through traffic.  I'm sure there's more there with a better setup and more practise / adjusting driving style for these cars, but I have no idea how much...

i dont think anyone knows where they are pace wise as we've all been car-hopping. Throw new tracks into the mix and its a lottery. Am sure you fast boys will rise to the top as per the norm but good to see the odd curve ball appearing like Jaris pace in the Lotus  :)
Wish there was a guide to setting these beasts up somewhere, i never really know if i should be running say a 3 or a 5 front wing etc. I tend to use GT car style setup tweaks which isnt ideal and i dont have the spare time to try endless setup configs.

Bit disallusioned that more names havent joined the ranks to fill out the grid a little more. I thought a full 75 season running this mod pack might polarise some historics enthusiasts from elsewhere  :-\  it deserves a regular 15 car grid at least.

Jari was on softs in race maybe that explains something, BRM was awfull at Brands, I tried everything and nothing works for get it right.

is l4de Jari? are there 3 Finns racing? Lost track!  :P

Interesting about the softs,  no idea how much difference per lap it makes though.  I matched my qually time(soft tyre) late in the race on low fuel (hard tyre), perhaps the difference was more familiarity with the car and driving it better after more laps  ???

Is the Mclaren a fast car?  I've tried a few at sebring and done similar times so I'm not yet convinced any is massively quicker, but I don't want to end up driving away into the distance every race. Winning is nice but not when its a car advantage every time...

i used softs in the race at zandvoort. They lasted pretty well for about half hour but tailed off after about 25mins, though may have just been my exhaustion after trying to keep up with FMG and Fabri  :P

Dont think the Mclaren has any big pace advantage, though it looked fast on the onboards in my AI race at Buenos Aires last night. Think the only two known quick cars are the Lotus 72 and F312 but even that advantage i dont know for sure.  :-\ They may have been equalised in the mod.

Shame we cant have a practise server running the first track 24-7 so people can get some laps in and a handle on relative laptimes.

@ Pete, if we can have a practise server up can we have a message mentioning this upcoming championship? Hope to entice some more drivers over who may see it listed in the lobby.

Yes he is.

I tested mostly of cars, also Fmg did that. Hard to say which are the fastest, because it partly depends on the driving style of the driver and the feeling between him and the car.

Having made this necessary premise, from my experiences:
I think that Tyrrell, Brabham and Lotus are the fastest. Almost half second faster than rest, maybe more. The main impressive thing was the relative ease to do fast laps.

Instead I think the Hesketh one of hardest to drive and midfield performances. I had a bad feeling about controlling the sideways, probably due a steering with a central point too narrow, or closed (no idea how is correctly call that in English).

Roughly the same for 312T. Maybe here is more a bad feeling with the handling. Car is quite easy if you are below the limit, but she gets damned nervous and difficult if you want to push harder. I did too few tests with Ferrari anyway, so I could improve the feeling. I think a midfield car, o almost not easy go fast with few experience.

Williams is the car that i like more in handling. Not the faster but very effective.

BRM is also a good car, funny and no so slow as one can imagine.


 

I've tested nearly everything at Zandvort now.

Hesketh and privateer type teams (Surtees/Parnelli/March/Penkse( I really dislike the Penske from the quick go I had at Silverstone - it's handling was the opposite to my style so was dog-slow, It's probably even slower at Zandy although I've learnt a bit more about setting the cars up to suit me since)) in that order are all doing 1:37.5 and above.

Next up I had the BRM/Ferrari/Tyrrell P34 in that order, They were between 1:37.3 and .5 (BRM easily fastest, that got the .3 time within 2 laps and the setup was shockingly bad. If I worked on it to make the car easier it would probably match the fast group here).

The fastest were the Tyrrell 007/Lotus/McLaren/Williams - in that order - with times from 1:36.8ish to 1:37.1. The McLaren doesn't quite suit me so might be faster for other people. The Tyrrell and Lotus were an absolute joy once I had adjusted to them, with the Lotus being slightly harder to drive on the limit.

I'm Missing a few here - I have had a quick go in the Brabham on stock setup at Silverstone and it was already faster than I managed in the Surtees even after spending time on the setup. Although it did require driving in a very specific fashion - this might just be the stock setup of course.
The Embassy/Hill might be a very fast member of the slow group or even squeek into the Middle one, dependant on driving characteristics, I'll hopefully get to it this weekend.
I'm kind of expecting the Fittipaldi to be in the slow group, but may be pleasantly surprised when I try it.
Shadow is probably middle group, although it think it has the 'fast' DFV and was meant to handle well in the day - so could be in the fast group - again, that's one I want to try at the weekend.

All of these are based on my driving style and setups, with Hard tires and 60Ltrs of fuel.
Your own times will differ due to the way some cars mesh with certain styles and others don't. Fabri and I have already learnt in series we do elsewhere that there's very little we can get from one another's setups as we drive so differently - I think these cars will actually exaggerate that trend and should even the field a bit.

Based on qually/race in the 2 fun events so far Hards Vs Softs are worth a second or so a lap, but can only be driven on the limit for a lap or 3 before they become so hot they drop to lap times similar to the hards. Given that they tail off after 25 mins or so you need to be very sure you want them and can hold off your competitors  ;D
For example - my actual fastest lap at Zandy in the Hesketh is a 1:35.9 in Qually, playing a 1:37.3 some 10 laps into the (25 lap) race on hards which was matched with increasing frequency as my fuel load continued to drop towards the end.
If you look at Marks' individual lap times you seem him slam 2 fast ones together and matching my early pace at the start followed by a bunch of much slower ones. He never increases beyond the initial fast pace due to the tires becoming sketchier and was actually lapping 2 seconds a lap slower than me by the end because my car was still getting faster while his became harder.

I might be able to get the 308B faster now if some of the tricks I learnt taming the March and P34 can be applied to the Hesketh - I still don't really see it getting out of the Midde group if it can get that fast to begin with though :)

I've just finished my Monster test at Zandy, thought you lot and any potential joiners might find it handy/interesting ;)

All times are with 60Ltrs of fuel and hard tires, most times will be about 5 laps into a stint, although some were done on the first flyer (BRM and Embassy/Hill I'm looking at you).
It's quite clear from the way that the cars drive that some of the 'slower' cars from here will be much better on faster circuits - the 312T for instance should dominate on high speed circuits with the added power it has... The BRM on the other hand is probably a front runner here if I go back to it, but at Monza it'll be a shot duck.


Some of those WILL go faster now, as I've learnt a lot about both Zandy and setting up the DFV cars to suit me. That might transfer to the Ferrari and BRM but as the V12's are a bit weightier it might not...

that's a lot of testing  :o , thanks for sharing the results with us :thumbup1:


I will try and do some testing of my own this week in the macca and maybe back to back it with 2 or 3 other cars just to see where it lands up on relative pace for me...

Where would you like to practice? One banner says Fuji the other Buenos Aires?

P.S. Could you keep the 1st post updated with the correct links? The car one is broken and there is no link to download Fuji.

both banner and calender say Buenos Aires  ???  Argentina for the practise server please Pete.

Hmm, original f1 75 mod pack link no longer works though. (edit. just replaced it)  :)

I've just noticed the 1967 Nurbs has been updated, apparently the track mesh has been updated.
I'll have another go and see if it's better for these cars now.

Fabri pointed out to me that the skin For Arturo Merzario in the Williams was messed up - So I've fixed it as I'm good like that ;)

For people not wanting a wonky gibberish paintjob the corrected files can be found here:
https://www.dropbox.com/s/jyeivizlglyeez0/Merzario%20fixed.rar?dl=0 (https://www.dropbox.com/s/jyeivizlglyeez0/Merzario%20fixed.rar?dl=0)

Drop them into your "xxx\steamapps\common\assettocorsa\content\cars\f1c75_williams\skins\Merzario" folder, with XXX being the drive and steam directory.
When it asks to over-write the CAR CHASSIS.dds say yes  :)

The other 2 files fix some other bits that were wrong based on a quick google for this car & paint job

Fuji Banner for you ;)


I've updated the F1 mod on the server and started the practice server. One car of each car type I'm afraid. If need some doubled up you need to tell me which ones (max 6 as there are 16 cars and 22 pit boxes)

Fabri and Barone will be team mates in either the Ferrari or the Williams.
Any chance you could put 2 of those on the server next chance you get Pete?

Sure, will add them in the morning

But that’s not in the first post  ;)

Thanks for getting the server up  :) I think Stefan may also be in a Brabham but may be a Tyrell ( he can confirm)

Yes, I will stick with the Brabham. But as I have to crate my PC for the next 3 weeks (moving house) I can take the Tyrell for this series, if there is any other driver who wants to drive the Brabham.

think the only drivers i dont have car choices for are  Jeff, Picnic and ibsolnyer. Not sure if they intend to race.  :-\

But as we arent bursting at the seams with drivers, i dont think we need a drivers file. Can we have 2 Brabhams and 2 Williams(or Ferraris - Fabri can confirm) for now. Rest can be one of each until we know further.

I've added a Brabham, a Ferrari, a Tyrrell, a Williams, a McLaren and a Lotus. That fills all the pit boxes.

I'll try and join in later in the season when I can actually sit in front of the computer and operate the pedals. Until then there's no point in me selecting a car.

Thanks Pete, get well soon.

I will put a race thread up when i get a chance.

Here's a link to as many cars as I could fit onto Dropbox

https://www.dropbox.com/sh/xzxdeokrgya2o5a/AADbEO2X4NBrlepoUPBDxu7Ra?dl=0 (https://www.dropbox.com/sh/xzxdeokrgya2o5a/AADbEO2X4NBrlepoUPBDxu7Ra?dl=0)

It's upto you whether you backup the original sounds files or not - I have, but these all work fine here so you shouldn't really need to.
There are cars missing due to my running out of space - I'm trying to clear some to get more but it won't be for a while - in the mean time I'm sure you can figure out how to do this yourselves from the files I've uploaded.

Obviously you don't want to replace the Ferrari or BRM sounds :D

great work Tim, much obliged   :thumbup1:

Thanks a bunch!

Hey guys !

I tested the cars a bit (setting only the gearboxes a little) on my usual testing track, Barcelona moto layout.

I can go with the Surtees TS16 if it's ok. I love its "Natural orgasms" flank advertising. No, sorry, it's "National organs".  ;D Anyway.

Tyrrell P34 : Nice for her exotism, but a weird feeling of understeering (potentially well represented). This car didn't take part in 75, so I guess it would be better not to pick her. Also I suppose that AC graphic and physic engines can't properly handle such a 6 wheels car : if you block the front wheels, only 2 will do. Probably the other 2 aren't even braking.

Ferrari 312T : Looks like the default setting is terrible in my hands. Can't get her in her supposed pace like that. A tad oversteering at entry, definitely understeering at exit. And not so stable while braking.

Lotus 72E : Delightful. Probably a large room for improvements, but quite efficient yet. And that sound..

March 751 : Nice, quite well balanced.

McLaren M23 : Nice, quite well balanced. Efficient.

Surtees TS16 : Very gentle, well balanced, maybe the worst weight/power ratio, but like her.

I may have tested other ones, but can't remember well..  :-\

Me and Barone will switch to Ferrari, if possible.

No problem  :)

Hey !
So is the 1st race still sheduled to Wed 20th or do we wait for more drivers ?

Are there some race related sub-topics somewhere or are we supposed to discuss the events  in this place ?

Oops you are looking in the wrong thread Ibn, this is the series discussion but there will always be a race thread for each event. See here:-
https://www.simracing.org.uk/smf/index.php?topic=16612.0 (https://www.simracing.org.uk/smf/index.php?topic=16612.0)
 :)

Thank you !

Hi !

I received an invite from Fabrizio for this series.

Can I join with the McLaren ?

Probably won't be able to race tomorrow as I have very little time to prepare and don't know the track at all ..

Hi everyone,
I was also invited by Fabri. I'll test out the cars and track later today, but chances are I won't make the race tonight.
I'll probably stick around though!
Thanks for hosting this championship and thanks to Fabri for the invitation :)

Welcome Olius and Cerebral  :) Always good to see new enthusiasts joining the racing  :thumbup1:

You are both welcome to race tonight but understand you may feel like you havent had enough practise, but it could give you some seat time and familiarity with the mod and other drivers, if you can.  :)

@Cerebral, yes you can have a Mclaren. There is one already taken but you are welcome to the other team car. ;)

Page 1 of this thread has all the relevant information and mod links for the season and there is a race thread for Round 1 in the 'UKAC Races' section of the forum.
https://www.simracing.org.uk/smf/index.php?topic=16612.0 (https://www.simracing.org.uk/smf/index.php?topic=16612.0)

Can I take the March if it's still available? Did a few laps last night at the track and it seems not too bad

Cheers!

You can indeed Les  :) I will update the driver list.

Is on of Tyrell's still free?

Yes  :)

OK, I'll take it :).

Haven't spotted this link posted here, sorry if I've missed it...

https://youtu.be/SHvIY-jvTfs

Review of the 1975 F1 season, in 4 parts

Nice find Les, will watch that later  8)

Why not put the link on the first page?  ;)

Done  :angel:

I did a few test laps on Monaco recently to see how slow I would be and twice hit the barrier in harbour chicane entry. Then I watched the replay in slow motion and I can assume there is a small track bug there : my rear left wheel didn't contact the visible barrier.. So the physical barrier actually is something like 20 cm more on the track.

hmm, we have used Monaco before for races here without any contact bug as far as i remember.  :-\  I wonder if i linked to a different version. That or you are hugging the barriers too tightly  ;)

We used this version before but the link no longer works:-
https://actrackrebootproject.wixsite.com/ac-track-re-boot/monacogpcircuit2017

i still have it on my pc so i will zip it up and put it on a dropbox link and we can use that for the Monaco round.  :)

The version used here is good. I also often use to do some free laps offline in Monaco for try cars (road cars) and I never had problems with barriers. You can really kiss them with no troubles.

Maybe, Maxime, did you use another version?

Yup, maybe I tried another version, I'll have a 2nd look at it. But on the one I tried, I watched replay in x8 slow and clearly my wheel shouldn't have been in contact with the barrier. Then I thought "maybe it's car related", so I tested my Surtees to smack barriers in other places and all was behaving normally. I didn't test other cars on this very barrier though.

the RD link i put in the track list appears to be a different version, so we wont use that, i'll put up a dropbox link to the ACreboot version when home.

try this version for Monaco

https://www.dropbox.com/s/afo1jupb5jf46qs/monaco_osrw_1.1.rar?dl=0 (https://www.dropbox.com/s/afo1jupb5jf46qs/monaco_osrw_1.1.rar?dl=0)

Hey Mark, I tried this Monaco version yesterday evening and didn't notice the same problem but unfortunately the track cut checking is absurdly forgiving at Sainte Devote, New Chicane (harbour) and Swimming Pool chicane.  :-\ :'(

I know the drivers here are well minded but those cuts still can occur from times to times and this situation would lead to inapropriate racing, particularly in qualif flying laps.. Or is there another overlapping cutting track checking while on the server ?

I cant do much about track designers lack of cut warnings, but we are a fairly self regulating honest bunch on here. Some guys watch the replays and pretty sure they would point out anyone taking excessive liberties, likewise during the race or qually, if you spot someone cutting then its fair game to point them out to me via pm for a replay review.  :detective:
I never really mind the odd cut if done in the heat of battle as its not always avoidable, but if someone was seen to do it lap after lap then its a different matter, likewise if someone gained a position advantage from say, cutting a chicane, then i expect them to give that place back.

Agreed on all points.

@ FMG, did you ever get around to testing that mod old version of the Nordschleiffe ? Remember you saying you were going to revisit it and test it.
I might re-download it and give it a try out before it becomes next round on the calendar

Will we go to Anderstorp or not ?

@Mark : A AC friend of mine told me that it was a great track (Nord '67 I mean).

Yes Anderstorp is next up, see the race thread  ;)  But I was just revisiting Nords for its upcoming round. Will check out the 67 version  :)

Can't remember if I've tried the update yet or not, will try to tomorrow or over the weekend.
Although unless it's amazing my preference would probably be for the modern version just because it's point scanned and ridiculously realistic.
Will let you know as soon as possible...

i agree, which is why i was reasonably content to use the stock modern version but i think the old version is worth checking out as could add to the nostalgia for the vintage race.

So did you guys install those shader files ? They say the track could just crash without them..

 ??? What shader files? What track?

For the Nords '67 ?..

i didnt get around to testing it at the weekend, so still on my to-do list. Where are you seeing a reference to shaders? There isnt anything in the readme  ???

https://www.racedepartment.com/downloads/nurburgring-1967.28207/?fbclid=IwAR0Am5uAzVed9SHvkolGOXbQyLC0do5psd3k7TXKE5mPYbx6VWpF287RJtA

Sry I fail to understand how to upload an image in this forum..

those comments appear to refer to a version 0.9 that was the last loaded version on RD. We have version 1.0  :) so hopefully all fine.

Oh ok I've the wrong one, where is the 1.0 version plz ?

Here you go:-

https://www.dropbox.com/s/60soooxpuh4naf2/N%C3%BCrburgring%201965%20v1.0%20by%20Rainmaker.7z?dl=0 (https://www.dropbox.com/s/60soooxpuh4naf2/N%C3%BCrburgring%201965%20v1.0%20by%20Rainmaker.7z?dl=0)

Thank you.

Did anyone get around to testing out the Nurburgring '65 mod track? Must admit i installed it but then forgot all about it.  :-[
I'll try and give it a run tonight and make a decision on whether we use this or the modern (stock) version.

Any thoughts?

its by rainmaker, the king of half assed conversions, so please lets just use the modern Kunos one...

I agree

I tried both and though the 65 version is quite fun and 'period', it just doesn't compare anywhere near to the quality of the Kunos track (naturally) but I could follow most corners and know where I was on the older version. New one it is, just have to ignore the graffiti on the track!

Doubt he'll be using that in his signature  ;)

it'd save everyone a lot of trouble  ;D


Some of his conversions are good, its just a shame he also likes to release a bunch of rushed tracks which are sub par at best.

Good to know