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Title: UKAC Season 14 - F1 '75 Test Race Zandvoort - Oct 16
Post by: Mark J on October 10, 2019, 08:07:20 PM +0100
(https://i.postimg.cc/3RSFjL12/James-Hunt-1975.jpg) (https://postimages.org/)

Practise: 19:30 (45 mins)
Qual: 20:15 (15 mins)
Race: 20:30  40mins

Cars allowed:
F1 1975 Cars
http://www.mediafire.com/file/u3zihr7yj1c8y2i/F1C75_Historic_F1_by_Bazza_v1.05.rar/file (http://www.mediafire.com/file/u3zihr7yj1c8y2i/F1C75_Historic_F1_by_Bazza_v1.05.rar/file)

Then Patch 1.1 (physics update) - un-zip to your contentcars folder:-

Download Physics update v1.1 (Need Full Mod v1.05 as base)
http://www.mediafire.com/file/5b16v6648dw657x/F1C75+Historic+F1+Physics+update+v1.1+by+Bazza.rar (http://www.mediafire.com/file/5b16v6648dw657x/F1C75+Historic+F1+Physics+update+v1.1+by+Bazza.rar)

Track: Zandvoort (kunos stock track)


(https://i.postimg.cc/qvDK5tyd/s-l300.jpg) (https://postimages.org/)

Live Timing: stracker.simracing.org.uk:50041/lapstat (http://stracker.simracing.org.uk:50041/lapstat)

Time of Day Setting: 14:00
Weather: Mid-clear
Start: Standing
Tyre wear: Normal
Fuel consumption: Normal
Pit-stops: Not required

Server track settings:
SESSION_START=100
RANDOMNESS=0
LAP_GAIN=0
SESSION_TRANSFER=N/a

Damage: 60%

Password: see above (#post_event_password)

PLP App - Not used in this series. Cutting will be monitored on replay and penalties issued for excessive cutting.


Title: Re: UKAC Season 14 - F1 '75 Test Race Zandvoort - Oct 16
Post by: Mark J on October 10, 2019, 08:09:34 PM +0100
Obviously all you need to install is the Track link if you raced or practised for the Silverstone event  :)

@ SRW, could you put this on the server for practise? Thanks in advance.


Title: Re: UKAC Season 14 - F1 '75 Test Race Zandvoort - Oct 16
Post by: SRW on October 11, 2019, 12:36:02 PM +0100
Obviously all you need to install is the Track link if you raced or practised for the Silverstone event  :)

@ SRW, could you put this on the server for practise? Thanks in advance.

I will update the server tonight


Title: Re: UKAC Season 14 - F1 '75 Test Race Zandvoort - Oct 16
Post by: MaxVeloce on October 11, 2019, 01:13:40 PM +0100
any chance we can get 2x each car for this one ?


Title: Re: UKAC Season 14 - F1 '75 Test Race Zandvoort - Oct 16
Post by: Mark J on October 11, 2019, 02:29:35 PM +0100
any chance we can get 2x each car for this one ?

if the track has enough garage slots? Then no problem why not.

and thanks SRW  :)


Title: Re: UKAC Season 14 - F1 '75 Test Race Zandvoort - Oct 16
Post by: SRW on October 11, 2019, 11:06:24 PM +0100
any chance we can get 2x each car for this one ?

if the track has enough garage slots? Then no problem why not.

and thanks SRW  :)

Unfortunately there are not enough grid slots for 2 of each car  :(


Title: Re: UKAC Season 14 - F1 '75 Test Race Zandvoort - Oct 16
Post by: SRW on October 11, 2019, 11:36:46 PM +0100
this version of the track is not on the server. Some one is on the RDP at the moment so I will upload the track and set the practice server tomorrow morning.


Title: Re: UKAC Season 14 - F1 '75 Test Race Zandvoort - Oct 16
Post by: SRW on October 13, 2019, 09:10:39 AM +0100
I have set the practice server up. Could some please confirm that it is working ok, the file format for this track is different to the normal ones and my version of AC is playing up at the moment.


Title: Re: UKAC Season 14 - F1 '75 Test Race Zandvoort - Oct 16
Post by: Mark J on October 13, 2019, 05:32:47 PM +0100
I have set the practice server up. Could some please confirm that it is working ok, the file format for this track is different to the normal ones and my version of AC is playing up at the moment.

it was greyed out for me when I tried to join to test it, even though I have the track installed  :-\  Can someone else try?


Title: Re: UKAC Season 14 - F1 '75 Test Race Zandvoort - Oct 16
Post by: MaxVeloce on October 13, 2019, 05:38:59 PM +0100
same, says I have unavailable content - I've installed the test version of the track from the racedept link...


Title: Re: UKAC Season 14 - F1 '75 Test Race Zandvoort - Oct 16
Post by: SRW on October 13, 2019, 07:43:13 PM +0100
is your track folder called 'sandev_f3ct' ? I put the folder in the download straight into the tracks folder.


Title: Re: UKAC Season 14 - F1 '75 Test Race Zandvoort - Oct 16
Post by: MaxVeloce on October 13, 2019, 07:55:51 PM +0100
yes,  I will do a screenshot of it and contents for you after the GT race  :)


Title: Re: UKAC Season 14 - F1 '75 Test Race Zandvoort - Oct 16
Post by: Barone on October 13, 2019, 08:06:59 PM +0100
same, says I have unavailable content - I've installed the test version of the track from the racedept link...

same for me


Title: Re: UKAC Season 14 - F1 '75 Test Race Zandvoort - Oct 16
Post by: MaxVeloce on October 13, 2019, 10:01:06 PM +0100
yes,  I will do a screenshot of it and contents for you after the GT race  :)

http://www.maxveloce.com/stuff/srouk/sandev1.jpg

http://www.maxveloce.com/stuff/srouk/sandev2.jpg


Title: Re: UKAC Season 14 - F1 '75 Test Race Zandvoort - Oct 16
Post by: Mark J on October 14, 2019, 08:36:45 AM +0100
is your track folder called 'sandev_f3ct' ? I put the folder in the download straight into the tracks folder.

that should have worked then as thats all i did, and the folder structure appeared okay.  You didnt copy any of the other track textures across? ie left it at default.


Title: Re: UKAC Season 14 - F1 '75 Test Race Zandvoort - Oct 16
Post by: SRW on October 14, 2019, 12:53:55 PM +0100
is your track folder called 'sandev_f3ct' ? I put the folder in the download straight into the tracks folder.

that should have worked then as thats all i did, and the folder structure appeared okay.  You didnt copy any of the other track textures across? ie left it at default.

I literally copy and pasted the 'sandev_f3ct' folder straight into the track folder as illustrated by maxveloce.

Maybe the author has knobled it so that you cannot use the 'test' version for online races?

Also, in the past I wanted to use the Adria Circuit for one of my Sunday night races, the track I found worked fine off line but when we put it on the server it wouldn't work, not sure why that was, the mighty Picnic couldn't fathom it out.

I have checked the version history, the file has not been updated in over a year so the one I uploaded is the latest version. I will go on the server tonight and swap the track to another track to make sure the server file is not corrupt. I am pretty confident it is OK as I used the file from last weeks Silverstone race and just changed the track link.

What time will the 'GTL boys'  finish playing prehistoric games on there winXP race rigs tonight?  ;D


Title: Re: UKAC Season 14 - F1 '75 Test Race Zandvoort - Oct 16
Post by: Mark J on October 14, 2019, 02:04:42 PM +0100
Guess that is a possibility that it doesnt work online as its the freebie version  :-\  if we cant sort it tonight we better have a back up plan. The Kunos version of Zandvoort? Or Oster-reichring


Title: Re: UKAC Season 14 - F1 '75 Test Race Zandvoort - Oct 16
Post by: Mark J on October 14, 2019, 04:44:15 PM +0100
i wonder if you need to delete the extra folders that holds the different track textures etc ? Looking at a normal track install, the folder structure is quite different  :-\  Might be enough to confuse the server perhaps.

Just a thought but has anyone tried it in single player mode yet? Make sure it actually works! :P


Title: Re: UKAC Season 14 - F1 '75 Test Race Zandvoort - Oct 16
Post by: SRW on October 14, 2019, 11:31:05 PM +0100
i tried using the track offline, but couldn't find it in my in game track list (well not under 'sandev_f3ct').

I have loaded the KS Zandvoort track onto the practice server. Could some one please confirm if it works and what track we are using for Wednesdays race


Title: Re: UKAC Season 14 - F1 '75 Test Race Zandvoort - Oct 16
Post by: Mark J on October 15, 2019, 10:50:07 AM +0100
sadly, i think we will have to go with the Kunos version of Zandvoort. Should still be a hoot in these cars but not quite the sweeping curves i was hoping for. Hadnt foreseen the problem with the mod track and its odd folder structure.  :-\


Title: Re: UKAC Season 14 - F1 '75 Test Race Zandvoort - Oct 16
Post by: goldtop on October 15, 2019, 11:48:02 AM +0100

Just a thought but has anyone tried it in single player mode yet? Make sure it actually works! :P

I've tried it offline in race and practice modes and it certainly works. Unfortunate if it doesn't work online  :(


Title: Re: UKAC Season 14 - F1 '75 Test Race Zandvoort - Oct 16
Post by: Bob on October 15, 2019, 12:08:54 PM +0100
Server working fine for me.


Title: Re: UKAC Season 14 - F1 '75 Test Race Zandvoort - Oct 16
Post by: Fabri Fibra on October 15, 2019, 12:14:26 PM +0100
Any chance to use the pay version of old Zandvoort?


Title: Re: UKAC Season 14 - F1 '75 Test Race Zandvoort - Oct 16
Post by: Mark J on October 15, 2019, 01:27:47 PM +0100
Any chance to use the pay version of old Zandvoort?

well i am happy to pay for it as i would rather race the old version for our historics races, but it needs the rest of the grid to be happy to pay for it too! Plus i assume srouk would need to stump up for a version to go on the server  :-\


Title: Re: UKAC Season 14 - F1 '75 Test Race Zandvoort - Oct 16
Post by: Mark J on October 15, 2019, 08:55:54 PM +0100
Race announcement changed to say we will be using the Kunos stock track.

Just tried a few cars there and it feels pretty damn good, with a rift you feel like you are there amongst the dunes and Armco  8)

Good practise to get your cars set up for tighter twistier circuits, pile on the downforce!

ps anyone noticed the McLaren has something odd with the steering? I noticed it at Silverstone but even more pronounced here  ??? might be a setup issue, too much caster/toe etc?

I will be in the Brabham tomorrow, so hands off  :hammer:


Title: Re: UKAC Season 14 - F1 '75 Test Race Zandvoort - Oct 16
Post by: Fabri Fibra on October 15, 2019, 09:24:00 PM +0100
I'm afraid there will be few participants this time. Few players have tried and the problems with the track have not helped.
I think it is better to postpone the race. Have the practice server without a password, in my opinion, would be even better, some new players could be interested.

In any case, I can race also tomorrow.  :)


Title: Re: UKAC Season 14 - F1 '75 Test Race Zandvoort - Oct 16
Post by: KDiesel on October 15, 2019, 09:34:34 PM +0100
I'm afraid there will be few participants this time. Few players have tried and the problems with the track have not helped.
I think it is better to postpone the race. Have the practice server without a password, in my opinion, would be even better, some new players could be interested.

In any case, I can race also tomorrow.  :)

I say let's race, me & Jari are in anyway...


Title: Re: UKAC Season 14 - F1 '75 Test Race Zandvoort - Oct 16
Post by: Mark J on October 15, 2019, 10:44:14 PM +0100
It’s just a test race, think of it as an extended practise session and good training at racing other cars on a tighter track  :) You guys can always run another next week as I’m away after this one.


Title: Re: UKAC Season 14 - F1 '75 Test Race Zandvoort - Oct 16
Post by: FullMetalGasket on October 16, 2019, 02:31:41 PM +0100
I'm hoping to try the Hesketh here, it's nice and tail happy so should be good fun.

I have zero practice so far due to watching Bathurst on the weekend  ;D


Title: Re: UKAC Season 14 - F1 '75 Test Race Zandvoort - Oct 16
Post by: Mark J on October 16, 2019, 03:57:28 PM +0100
what sort of diff settings should be used for a tighter bumpy track like this? or indeed for these old f1 beasts in general.  Diff and preload have always been a grey area  :-[ So far i've left them on default for silverstone and here.


Title: Re: UKAC Season 14 - F1 '75 Test Race Zandvoort - Oct 16
Post by: KDiesel on October 16, 2019, 05:37:45 PM +0100
BRM for me please, really love it.


Title: Re: UKAC Season 14 - F1 '75 Test Race Zandvoort - Oct 16
Post by: Mark J on October 16, 2019, 06:20:30 PM +0100
okay BRM, Brabham and Hesketh are spoken for so if the rest of you guys can pick something else that'd be nice  :)


Title: Re: UKAC Season 14 - F1 '75 Test Race Zandvoort - Oct 16
Post by: FullMetalGasket on October 16, 2019, 06:26:26 PM +0100
As this is the 36 slot version we have room for 2 of each  ;)


Title: Re: UKAC Season 14 - F1 '75 Test Race Zandvoort - Oct 16
Post by: Fabri Fibra on October 16, 2019, 06:44:33 PM +0100
I have my Williams in garage  :laugh:


Title: Re: UKAC Season 14 - F1 '75 Test Race Zandvoort - Oct 16
Post by: L4de on October 16, 2019, 06:53:28 PM +0100
Hello.I would  like to have Bramham if possible.


Title: Re: UKAC Season 14 - F1 '75 Test Race Zandvoort - Oct 16
Post by: Mark J on October 16, 2019, 07:07:30 PM +0100
As this is the 36 slot version we have room for 2 of each  ;)

Hmm don’t know if SRW knows that, if he does can we have two of each available? Ta  :)


Title: Re: UKAC Season 14 - F1 '75 Test Race Zandvoort - Oct 16
Post by: SRW on October 16, 2019, 07:36:40 PM +0100
Race server is set. please shout out if there are any problems as I will be leaving the house in a few mins.

Unfortunately I don't have time to update the car list file for x2 of everything tonight. Pity we didn't notice this a bit earlier, nevermind there is always next time!



Title: Re: UKAC Season 14 - F1 '75 Test Race Zandvoort - Oct 16
Post by: FullMetalGasket on October 16, 2019, 07:40:29 PM +0100
My God the Hesketh is lively  ;D
I hope Fabris' time was on hards ;)


Title: Re: UKAC Season 14 - F1 '75 Test Race Zandvoort - Oct 16
Post by: L4de on October 16, 2019, 07:52:11 PM +0100
Ok then Lotus.


Title: Re: UKAC Season 14 - F1 '75 Test Race Zandvoort - Oct 16
Post by: Bob on October 16, 2019, 09:22:23 PM +0100
Been under the weather all day, but turned up to make the numbers up, hope I wasn't in the way when being lapped. Enjoyable all the same, thx.


Title: Re: UKAC Season 14 - F1 '75 Test Race Zandvoort - Oct 16
Post by: Stefan aka Postal on October 17, 2019, 07:04:55 AM +0100
Decided to take the Tyrell this time out as the McLaren is a bit weird to setup properly. Had no setup for this car and that showed in the race as it remained way too understeery and skittish. Had to take a pitstop after contact with the armco. Still a nice track to drive these cars on.

After the race i altered the setup some more and got into the 1.38's immediately, so i think i'll stick with the Tyrell. Altough that Brabham looks rather tasty too!..
A proper championship in these would be awsome.


Title: Re: UKAC Season 14 - F1 '75 Test Race Zandvoort - Oct 16
Post by: Mark J on October 17, 2019, 08:55:38 AM +0100
Good race - despite the slightly lower numbers than last week  ???

The track actually suited these cars really well, the only part i didnt like was the mickey mouse corners after the blast through the dunes, though i guess they are technical. It really felt like you had to grab the car by the scruff of its neck to power through the middle sector, loved it.  8) was suitably soaked in sweat by the end!
For me to run 'only' 10 secs behind FMG and Fabri after 40mins is an achievement in such beasts and i enjoyed getting a podium finish  :) i actually got to battle the pair of them for the first 10mins but when L4de started pressuring me from behind they scampered off a bit but it was rewarding to see them only a couple of corners ahead for the majority of the race.

The cars looked and sounded awesome again  :thumbup1:  i just hope we can get the numbers for a decent series.


Title: Re: UKAC Season 14 - F1 '75 Test Race Zandvoort - Oct 16
Post by: MaxVeloce on October 17, 2019, 12:38:00 PM +0100
Good race - despite the slightly lower numbers than last week  ???

I looked at the server on tuesday evening and it was running ks zandvoort,  but for some reason it was still greyed out for me so I gave up on it for this week...


Title: Re: UKAC Season 14 - F1 '75 Test Race Zandvoort - Oct 16
Post by: SRW on October 17, 2019, 12:41:09 PM +0100
Good race - despite the slightly lower numbers than last week  ???

I looked at the server on tuesday evening and it was running ks zandvoort,  but for some reason it was still greyed out for me so I gave up on it for this week...

My memory is not very good these days but something leads me to think we may have modified this track to get a bigger amount of pitboxes, does this ring a bell with anyone else?


Title: Re: UKAC Season 14 - F1 '75 Test Race Zandvoort - Oct 16
Post by: Mark J on October 17, 2019, 01:18:01 PM +0100
Good race - despite the slightly lower numbers than last week  ???

I looked at the server on tuesday evening and it was running ks zandvoort,  but for some reason it was still greyed out for me so I gave up on it for this week...

My memory is not very good these days but something leads me to think we may have modified this track to get a bigger amount of pitboxes, does this ring a bell with anyone else?

could be the osrw? version that has 30+ pitboxes. we have used those versions for many of the tracks in the past, when we had more racers  :'(


Title: Re: UKAC Season 14 - F1 '75 Test Race Zandvoort - Oct 16
Post by: Fabri Fibra on October 17, 2019, 05:54:06 PM +0100
Another fun race.

During qualifying Fmg was doing low 1.36 (then 1.35.9) much faster than of what I was doing. I thought that if he could make those times, I could do it or at least try. So I did 1.36.000, qualifying 2nd on the grid.

I started well and at first corner I was on lead. I had some troubles with cold and hard tryres in braking, but Fmg and Mark know how racing and were able to avoid contacts (sorry guys for the risk).
I kept the head for about half the race, often covering the inside lines. In every case, Fmg had a better pace and after some pressure, he passed me at Tarzan Corner (in this case I was not in covering line). I tryed follow him, but he was a bit faster and I finished at 3 seconds.

Another final second place.  :angel:


Title: Re: UKAC Season 14 - F1 '75 Test Race Zandvoort - Oct 16
Post by: FullMetalGasket on October 17, 2019, 10:13:13 PM +0100
I thought these were a blast here. I tried 3 cars for this one - all on hards and with enough fuel to do 40 mins.
The March was nice but would have gone faster with more time spent on setup.
The Parnelli really seemed to suit my driving and was over half a second faster before I even played with the setup - over race distance I think it would actually be faster than the Hesketh.

The Hesketh is an absolute blast. Blindingly fast, but with questionable rear grip. Especially after the tires start going off.
After a bit of setup work I got it to the point where it could be slid through the slower corners on most attempts and could get all the way over the hill without lifting. This did make it a handful after about 20 mins though..

For F1 cars I thought these were surprisingly good for close battles, if you get really close there seems to be some aero wash. But there's so much mechanical grip this doesn't cause major issues.

We desperately need to attract a decent sized grid and run a series  8)