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Title: GT Sprint - S3 R5 - Anderstorp - 13th June
Post by: Simon Gymer on May 25, 2006, 09:08:57 AM +0100
GT Sprint Cup - Season 3, Round 5 at Anderstorp

Date: Tuesday 13th June

Practice 1: 8:30pm (10 mins)
Practice 2: 8:40pm (5 mins)
Qual 2: 8:45pm (28 mins)
Warmup: 9:13pm (2 mins)
Race: 9:15pm (40 mins)

Cars allowed: Any GT car or Corvette or Viper G2. (Seat Toledo is allowed but will not score points.)
Weather: Dry

Server: UKGTR GT Sprint S3
Password: Server Password is shown in the Password Board (https://www.simracing.org.uk/smf/index.php?board=20.0) and is available to the relevant registered drivers.

Notes:
(1) Full-time drivers should aim to arrive during Practice 1.
(2) Reserve drivers should not connect to the server until Practice 2.
(3) It's best if all drivers can make sure they are connected before the Qualifying session as drivers on track during qualifying will not see cars that join after they are on track until they go back to the garage.
(4) See  UKGTR Sprint Season 3 Info (https://www.simracing.org.uk/index.php?ind=lm2&group=21) for general Season 3 info.
(5) Please make sure you are fully aware of the UKGTR Rules (https://www.simracing.org.uk/index.php?pid=7)
(6) The season will be run using a UKGTR carpack v1.5 which will need to be installed prior to racing. Details of this pack can be found here (https://www.simracing.org.uk/smf/index.php?topic=1235.msg17247#msg17247).


Title: Re: GT Sprint - S3 R5 - Anderstorp - 13th June
Post by: ginsters sponsored on June 13, 2006, 08:59:46 AM +0100
Looking forward to this after Donnishite  :P.

One problem though. And its clash with Brazil playing is a bit of a biggie  :'(. Hopefully, they don't live up to the hype and I'll see you after first half.


Title: Re: GT Sprint - S3 R5 - Anderstorp - 13th June
Post by: Jeffrey on June 13, 2006, 09:07:40 AM +0100
You think Donnington is shite, but you look forward to Anderstorp :ban: ;D

This track is awefull and it will be very hard to overtake. If I'll be there it will be in the Lister. I need a storm with this weather. ::)


Title: Re: GT Sprint - S3 R5 - Anderstorp - 13th June
Post by: Simon Gymer on June 13, 2006, 09:20:04 AM +0100
Are you Brazilian?


Title: Re: GT Sprint - S3 R5 - Anderstorp - 13th June
Post by: Simon Gymer on June 13, 2006, 09:21:33 AM +0100
Each to their own. Both circuits provide a different challenge. Donington is one of the hardest circuits to overtake safely as it's so difficult to get a run on someone. Anderstorp is much easier for overtaking because of that reason.

Both great circuits in their own right. People don't like donington cause it's hard.  :P ;) ;)


Title: Re: GT Sprint - S3 R5 - Anderstorp - 13th June
Post by: ginsters sponsored on June 13, 2006, 09:26:43 AM +0100
Do you have to be Brazilian to appreciate good football?

Your sounding like Ian Wright. My interest goes beyond just England :P. Remember, I had to suffer another season of PAFC before the World Cup and am hungry for some decent stuff.

Oddly, I do like Anders. Each to their own.


Title: Re: GT Sprint - S3 R5 - Anderstorp - 13th June
Post by: Truetom on June 13, 2006, 09:29:36 AM +0100
If I'll be there it will be in the Lister.

What now, we're changing cars again depending on the circuit?  :yawn:

TT


Title: Re: GT Sprint - S3 R5 - Anderstorp - 13th June
Post by: Zacari on June 13, 2006, 10:49:32 AM +0100
I've always hated that TT, I always stick with a car for the season (except for the GTL ladder of course :P)


Title: Re: GT Sprint - S3 R5 - Anderstorp - 13th June
Post by: Simon Gymer on June 13, 2006, 11:12:20 AM +0100
SimRacing rules allow it. As I mentioned elsewhere generally it's not done unless someone just can't get on with the car they've chosen or because they fancy a change not because it's faster to take another car at a specific track. However, it is allowed.

P.S. I hope and assume that's Gizmo doing a test on the website that is creating "Hacking attempt" to appear on all the race standings pages.


Title: Re: GT Sprint - S3 R5 - Anderstorp - 13th June
Post by: Truetom on June 13, 2006, 12:50:38 PM +0100
I know its allowed, Shark. Just may personal oppinion for it is "chickenshit". Test the car before season, if you miscalculated, live with the mistake.

If I got my hands on any good Mosler setups before starting E3 I would also drive a Mosler. Its a great car, which I discovered too late.   :(

Anyway, just my oppinion, anyone can drive whatever he wants.  :)

TT


Title: Re: GT Sprint - S3 R5 - Anderstorp - 13th June
Post by: Dave 'Gizmo' Gymer on June 13, 2006, 01:23:15 PM +0100
P.S. I hope and assume that's Gizmo doing a test on the website that is creating "Hacking attempt" to appear on all the race standings pages.

It's fallout from the upgrade to SMF 1.0.7 which suddenly and expectedly succeeded. I'm working on it now (having been suitably lubricated during lunchtime).


Title: Re: GT Sprint - S3 R5 - Anderstorp - 13th June
Post by: Simon Gymer on June 13, 2006, 01:26:14 PM +0100
I don't see any reason to alienate members by saying they are not allowed change cars during the season. There is hardly any difference between the main GT and NGT cars (we have had no need for a car ranking system to even out the peformance) which means performance is nearly all down to the driver. This is not GTL where the cars performance is so different.

If you want to try the Mosler, where is the harm TT? The Mosler and F360 area almost identical in pace, so how can that be seen as gaining an advantage? If there is no advantage in swapping cars then I don't see why there is a problem swapping.

Some people prefer to stick with the same car because it's nice to get familiar with it over a longer period and to be recognisable driving the same car, some people don't. The rules as they are cater for both people, which is surely what we want?


Title: Re: GT Sprint - S3 R5 - Anderstorp - 13th June
Post by: popabawa on June 13, 2006, 01:40:57 PM +0100
I'm all for 'other people' driving cars they are unfamiliar with, especially if they usually beat me...  :D


Title: Re: GT Sprint - S3 R5 - Anderstorp - 13th June
Post by: Dave 'Gizmo' Gymer on June 13, 2006, 01:47:04 PM +0100
Fixed now.


Title: Re: GT Sprint - S3 R5 - Anderstorp - 13th June
Post by: Truetom on June 13, 2006, 03:03:52 PM +0100
As I said, let everyone use whatever and however they want. I will use same car through the season, that's what I am. And that's everything there is to it.  :)

TT


Title: Re: GT Sprint - S3 R5 - Anderstorp - 13th June
Post by: Rich_A on June 13, 2006, 03:20:12 PM +0100
As I said, let everyone use whatever and however they want. I will use same car through the season, that's what I am. And that's everything there is to it.  :)

TT

Same here. I only just started to understand 996 after Sprint S2, I think it takes at least a season for it to sink in. And if I went back to 996 now would take quite a few races to remember.. so the only way to get good results is to stick with one car. I'd have stuck with 996 but felt I wanted to learn F360, figured 996 would be harder so took it first but actually they're equally difficult.


Title: Re: GT Sprint - S3 R5 - Anderstorp - 13th June
Post by: Jeffrey on June 13, 2006, 05:50:40 PM +0100
Can this whining please stop, first the cutting, and now the car changing. >:(

In the NGT series, I started the first race with the Porsche, but I hated it. So I switched to the 360, and drove with that the whole time.

This race is only gonna be my second GT race this season. The first race (donny) I took the 550, even though I was almost 1s faster in the Lister. And second, I like the Lister much more. You can thow that car around much easier. More my style.

Ehhe, car swap, chicken, ehhe. Sure, keep that thought. :hammer:


Title: Re: GT Sprint - S3 R5 - Anderstorp - 13th June
Post by: Rich_A on June 13, 2006, 06:15:22 PM +0100
Well at least now I know something about rear engine cars. If i'd have chopped and changed cars in S2 i'd have learnt nothing.. would have confused me.


Title: Re: GT Sprint - S3 R5 - Anderstorp - 13th June
Post by: ginsters sponsored on June 13, 2006, 09:43:31 PM +0100
That was oddly surprising, in a good way ;D.

Right on the pace in quali and looking forward to the race. On first lap t1 was caught out when Zacari braked far earlier than me (never thought I would get to say that ;)) to slip off and go back to ninth. Moved smoothly up the field again to get back with Shark, and had in him in trouble. However he then caught me out by braking earlier than I expected. Slipped off, broke my spoiler and out of race. Glad I didn't rear end either of you.

Chuffed that I'm clearly getting hang of 550 and really chuffed than I could brake later than some of the big boys. A real shock when it happened and no points though  :-\. At least it was better than watching Brazil.


Title: Re: GT Sprint - S3 R5 - Anderstorp - 13th June
Post by: Simon Gymer on June 13, 2006, 10:09:58 PM +0100
Finally I got a decent result at Anderstorp. The trick is to not brake too late for the entire race. Much easier said than done that's for sure. But this time I just about managed it to came home 3rd just under 2 seconds behind Greg who I'd been reeling in hand over fist at about 0.2 seconds a lap lol. Only another 10 laps and I've had had that final 2 seconds. Was quite suprised to see Rich only a few seconds ahead of Greg too, so came home very near the front, which I'm really pleased with. Glad to see all the Sharkies finish tonight in the small field we get nice team points again.


Title: Re: GT Sprint - S3 R5 - Anderstorp - 13th June
Post by: Aagramn on June 13, 2006, 10:10:42 PM +0100
Good win Rich.

Awful race for me, possibly my worst ever. Was pleased with a PB in qual and 7th, but made a succession of silly mistakes over the race. Sorry about the tap Jan. Think I'll probably take a break from championship racing.


Title: Re: GT Sprint - S3 R5 - Anderstorp - 13th June
Post by: Jeffrey on June 13, 2006, 10:11:25 PM +0100
I had the weirdest warmup lap ever. First of all my FPS went from 50-60 in qually, to 17-18 at the start (standing still). When we got rolling they went up to 40 again ???.
Then halfway down the warmup lap I lost my wheel ;D. That was easily fixed, but I went off and had to get back in line :sweatdrop:

The race was pretty fun at the start, half way it got boring. Then Zacari came up to me, and he was faster. I was trying to keep him behind, but 8 minutes before the finish I heard: "tyres worn" :(. Very strange, because only my left front tyre was 100-105 all race long, the rest was between 80-85. But after that my car just wouldn't turn anymore.
At the straight Zacari showed the power of the 550 when he went passed like I was standing stil :o. I then thought, oh  well, get the car home this time and don't blow it up again. But Zacari spun and I took his place, so I wanted to keep that place again. I braked for Hansen and locked up, so I expected Zac to overtake me again, but he followed my (bad) example and he also locked up, which gave me some breathing space.
Again, I settled just to finish, and got 4th. Not bad for starting 14th. Just by driving consistent and not spinning, because my fastest lap was 1s slower than Rich.


Title: Re: GT Sprint - S3 R5 - Anderstorp - 13th June
Post by: Truetom on June 13, 2006, 10:13:18 PM +0100
Can this whining please stop, first the cutting, and now the car changing. >:(
Ehhe, car swap, chicken, ehhe. Sure, keep that thought. :hammer:

Whining, ha!  ;D

You're right Ruskus, whatever say thou.  ;)

Qualified 5th, finished 6th, fine with me as I never even practice GTs, except just before the GT Sprint race.
Had one off, braked too late, no damage to me or others. Came back to 6th and stayed there. Too bad there's so few drivers.
Grats to the winner, great driving Rich and others in front!

TT


Title: Re: GT Sprint - S3 R5 - Anderstorp - 13th June
Post by: Zacari on June 13, 2006, 10:16:57 PM +0100
Quite a weak race from me again, quali'd in pole again but caught myself out losing concentration and span back to 5th behind SBG around lap 7.  Closed up pretty quickly and after he went off I was behind Shark in 4th.  Closed up fast but couldn't find anywhere to overtake without risking both cars, in frustration shifted to 1st not 2nd into T1 trying to set up a pass into T2, caught the car but ran out of road.

After that I was just hotlapping, Shark and Rus were ahead so no worry about team points.  Had a good battle with Rus for a while and got by into T2 eventually only to lose the back end a lap later on worn tyers ::)  Cruised round for 5th.  Grats to Rich for a consistant drive for the win.


Title: Re: GT Sprint - S3 R5 - Anderstorp - 13th June
Post by: greg130 on June 13, 2006, 10:21:08 PM +0100
Grats to Rich, great drive mate.
Sharky boy, you were catching me a bit faster then 0.2 per lap, I was carrying some aero damage after brushing the pit wall, lack of concentration, lol.  Another 3 or 4 laps mate anf you would have had me for sure.
Anyway really pleased with 2nd, only 3 go now.  ;D


Title: Re: GT Sprint - S3 R5 - Anderstorp - 13th June
Post by: picnic on June 13, 2006, 10:26:21 PM +0100
Replay (http://www.ukgtr.org/replay/Anderstorp%20-%20GT%20Sprint%20S3%20130606.zip) and provisional results (http://www.ukgtr.org/replay/?explode=Anderstorp%20-%20GT%20Sprint%20S3%20130606.zip) available


Title: Re: GT Sprint - S3 R5 - Anderstorp - 13th June
Post by: Zacari on June 13, 2006, 10:27:30 PM +0100
Grrrr I was on 95% downloading a replay then it cut out 'cause of that! ::) :P ;) :laugh:


Title: Re: GT Sprint - S3 R5 - Anderstorp - 13th June
Post by: Rich_A on June 13, 2006, 11:04:04 PM +0100
That's my third win I think..  :P Didn't expect it tbh, strategy was to try and stay with leaders but SBG out braked himself into T2 lap 1 and then Zacari had some good pace but then spun exitng T6 a few laps later. Would have been good to try for a three car break away but nevermind.

Pushed quite hard and did 1m26.4, not bad but still a second off CJ's record!! Had a spin exiting last turn but kept it 50 meters ahead of Greg and then kept it going to the chequered flag.

Car felt good but not perfect for Anders!


Title: Re: GT Sprint - S3 R5 - Anderstorp - 13th June
Post by: Dave 'Gizmo' Gymer on June 14, 2006, 07:30:04 AM +0100
Grrrr I was on 95% downloading a replay then it cut out 'cause of that! ::) :P ;) :laugh:

The web server was quite flaky last night; GetRight reported 3 or 4 retries whilst pulling the replay. Sometimes it just has bad days. :-\


Title: Re: GT Sprint - S3 R5 - Anderstorp - 13th June
Post by: FlyBri on June 14, 2006, 08:05:13 AM +0100
A complete disaster for me, didnt really qualify very well (9th) and my race was worse. Got up to 5 th after the 2nd or so lap and that was only due to other ppls misfortune, From then on the race was a nightmare, went off at T1 and rejoined last and thats where i stayed for the rest of the race. Could only manage 1.29-1.31 laps which is gash. Must of spun off track every 3rd lap or so, lapped twice and even got lapped by the next car in front lol. Still kept with it and at least i finished  ;D

possibley my worst ever race lol


Title: Re: GT Sprint - S3 R5 - Anderstorp - 13th June
Post by: whitham69 on June 14, 2006, 10:03:37 AM +0100
Sry i missed it last night, I went out for ride with a few mate up to wales and we all got carryed away and never got back in time.


Title: Re: GT Sprint - S3 R5 - Anderstorp - 13th June
Post by: Mark J on June 14, 2006, 10:49:21 AM +0100
Shite race for me. :(

Cant stand Anderstorp it bores the tits off of me. Had no pre-praccy due to watching Brazil first half so was crap in qualy (11th)

Race pace was okay except i had chosen the wrong setup file for my race setup (again due to watching Brazil ::))
Found myself up to the giddy heights of 5th for a while but about 25-30 mins into the race i just got over hot and irritable causing me to lose concentration and throw it off the track about 4 times in quick succession  >:(
Unusually for me, i just hit the escape key and quit the race as i really wasnt in the mood for it last night after an evil day at work. :(

Roll on GTR2, i'm afraid i'm getting a bit bored with the same 'ol tracks and with so few race attendees in GT its hard to stay motivated. :surrender:



Title: Re: GT Sprint - S3 R5 - Anderstorp - 13th June
Post by: mclaessen on June 14, 2006, 10:51:29 AM +0100
Missed this one unfortunately because lack of time to practice. I thought it would be safer to everyone to not compete in this one.


Title: Re: GT Sprint - S3 R5 - Anderstorp - 13th June
Post by: Jeffrey on June 14, 2006, 11:23:00 AM +0100
I forgot I was reserve for this race, as I was the first one in the room :-X. But with only 14 in race I guess that wasn't a problem  :oops:


Title: Re: GT Sprint - S3 R5 - Anderstorp - 13th June
Post by: Rob Bywater "Kerb Crawlers" on June 14, 2006, 12:57:35 PM +0100
A complete disaster for me, didnt really qualify very well (9th) and my race was worse. Got up to 5 th after the 2nd or so lap and that was only due to other ppls misfortune, From then on the race was a nightmare, went off at T1 and rejoined last and thats where i stayed for the rest of the race. Could only manage 1.29-1.31 laps which is gash. Must of spun off track every 3rd lap or so, lapped twice and even got lapped by the next car in front lol. Still kept with it and at least i finished  ;D

possibley my worst ever race lol


Hey Fly

Thats a standard NGT outing for me!!   ;)

Cheers

Rob


Title: Re: GT Sprint - S3 R5 - Anderstorp - 13th June
Post by: FlyBri on June 14, 2006, 05:06:26 PM +0100
lol