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Title: UKAC Season 15 F1 1975 Round 1 - Buenos Aires - Nov 20
Post by: Mark J on November 11, 2019, 01:27:57 PM +0000
Password: see above (#post_event_password)
(2) Driver lists can be found on the championship standings page (https://www.simracing.org.uk/smf/index.php?action=LM2R;group=761)

(https://i.postimg.cc/YCWmx70t/argentina.jpg) (https://postimages.org/)

Practise: 19:30 (45 mins)
Qual: 20:15 (15 mins)
Race: 20:30  45 mins

Cars allowed:
F1 1975 Cars

Modpack install required:-

Download Mod (version 1.2:
http://www.mediafire.com/file/hngms2664ytb92s/20191104_F1C75_Historic_F1_by_Bazza_v1.05_v1.2.7z/file (http://www.mediafire.com/file/hngms2664ytb92s/20191104_F1C75_Historic_F1_by_Bazza_v1.05_v1.2.7z/file)

Track: Buenos Aires GP
https://www.dropbox.com/s/gf4wvdd26l503c7/Buenos%20Aires%201979%20v1.0%20by%20Rainmaker.7z?dl=0 (https://www.dropbox.com/s/gf4wvdd26l503c7/Buenos%20Aires%201979%20v1.0%20by%20Rainmaker.7z?dl=0)

Live Timing: stracker.simracing.org.uk:50041/lapstat (http://stracker.simracing.org.uk:50041/lapstat)

Time of Day Setting: 14:00
Weather: Mid-clear
Start: Standing
Tyre wear: Normal
Fuel consumption: Normal
Pit-stops: Not required

Server track settings:
SESSION_START=100
RANDOMNESS=0
LAP_GAIN=0
SESSION_TRANSFER=N/a

Damage: 60%

Password: see above (#post_event_password)

PLP App - Not used in this series. Cutting will be monitored on replay and penalties issued for excessive cutting.

Here is the current driver list for tonights race:-
(Latest)

1)MJ - Brabham
2)Max Veloce - Mclaren - not racing this round because he's being a girl
3)Stefan (Postal) - Brabham (or Tyrell)
4)Fabri - Ferrari
5)Bob - Fittipaldi
6)FMG - Hesketh
7)Kdiesel - BRM
8)Jeff ?
9)Picnic
10)Goldtop - Parnelli
11)SirBarone - Ferrari
12) L4de - Lotus
13)ibnsolmyer - Surtees
14) LesN - March
15) VVA ?
16) Cerebral Vortex - Mclaren - Possibly not racing this round?
17) Olius - TBC Possibly not racing this round?
18) Syd Drake - Tyrell


Title: Re: UKAC Season 15 F1 1975 Round 1 - Buenos Aires - Nov 20
Post by: Stefan aka Postal on November 11, 2019, 03:05:48 PM +0000
Mmmmm new track for AC. :thumbup1: Too bad for me, as I won't be able to participate.


Title: Re: UKAC Season 15 F1 1975 Round 1 - Buenos Aires - Nov 20
Post by: Mark J on November 11, 2019, 08:11:00 PM +0000
What is the practise server password set to? The usual doesn’t work  ???


Title: Re: UKAC Season 15 F1 1975 Round 1 - Buenos Aires - Nov 20
Post by: picnic on November 11, 2019, 08:28:21 PM +0000
I've restarted it with no password


Title: Re: UKAC Season 15 F1 1975 Round 1 - Buenos Aires - Nov 20
Post by: FullMetalGasket on November 12, 2019, 06:09:56 AM +0000
It doesn't seem so at first, but my God this is good track.
It think I'm going to have coloured in the final hairpin by the end of the race, every fast lap is sideways enough to leave marks  ;D

I'm in Alan Jones' Hesketh for some reason Pete, it's that due to an mistake in assignments or is it just random due to no assignments being set? For the Proper races I'd like Hunts' car please.

And can I suggest a banner on the server with a little info on the series, who knows - it might snag someone...


Title: Re: UKAC Season 15 F1 1975 Round 1 - Buenos Aires - Nov 20
Post by: Mark J on November 12, 2019, 09:12:32 AM +0000
Said it was a good track didnt i  :)  Really suits these cars well with a good mix of Scalextric corners  ;D

Hope to get back on the server tonight with the Brabham this time. I managed to lose my sounds for it. Not sure why but the Brabham has different engine sounds to the other DFV cars and i dont like it much. I think it might be an earlier mod than some of the other cars.  :-\


Title: Re: UKAC Season 15 F1 1975 Round 1 - Buenos Aires - Nov 20
Post by: FullMetalGasket on November 12, 2019, 09:58:18 AM +0000
I'll send you my pre-modified sound file for it when I get home.
You'll thank me for it, especially after you hear it hear in the replay  ;)


Title: Re: UKAC Season 15 F1 1975 Round 1 - Buenos Aires - Nov 20
Post by: Mark J on November 12, 2019, 11:14:58 AM +0000
I'll send you my pre-modified sound file for it when I get home.
You'll thank me for it, especially after you hear it hear in the replay  ;)

excellent, cheers Tim. Would like to have stayed on the server longer last night to compare corners/gears with you but real life got in the way. Nice to have a new (old) circuit to learn and race on.  :)

ps @ picnic, can i second that request for some info on the practise server page to let people know about this series? Muchos gracias  :)


Title: Re: UKAC Season 15 F1 1975 Round 1 - Buenos Aires - Nov 20
Post by: Stefan aka Postal on November 12, 2019, 02:03:42 PM +0000
I'll send you my pre-modified sound file for it when I get home.
You'll thank me for it, especially after you hear it hear in the replay  ;)

Would you be so kind to forward these to me also please?  :)


Title: Re: UKAC Season 15 F1 1975 Round 1 - Buenos Aires - Nov 20
Post by: FullMetalGasket on November 12, 2019, 05:41:37 PM +0000
I'll send you my pre-modified sound file for it when I get home.
You'll thank me for it, especially after you hear it hear in the replay  ;)

excellent, cheers Tim. Would like to have stayed on the server longer last night to compare corners/gears with you but real life got in the way. Nice to have a new (old) circuit to learn and race on.  :)

ps @ picnic, can i second that request for some info on the practise server page to let people know about this series? Muchos gracias  :)

Wouldn't have done you any good - took me another 40 mins to even match your times  :P


Title: Re: UKAC Season 15 F1 1975 Round 1 - Buenos Aires - Nov 20
Post by: FullMetalGasket on November 12, 2019, 06:54:24 PM +0000
See the series thread - I've uploaded a link to as many sounds as I can fit onto dropbox.
As you lot a fairy bright I'm sure you can figure out how to finish the job for the remaining DFV cars :P


Title: Re: UKAC Season 15 F1 1975 Round 1 - Buenos Aires - Nov 20
Post by: picnic on November 13, 2019, 08:42:04 AM +0000
I'm in Alan Jones' Hesketh for some reason Pete, it's that due to an mistake in assignments or is it just random due to no assignments being set? For the Proper races I'd like Hunts' car please.
Swapped the Hesketh to the James Hunt one for you.

And can I suggest a banner on the server with a little info on the series, who knows - it might snag someone...
I did check the welcome text but not which one the INI pointed to  ::) Hopefully this is now sorted.


Title: Re: UKAC Season 15 F1 1975 Round 1 - Buenos Aires - Nov 20
Post by: Mark J on November 13, 2019, 10:05:09 AM +0000
Thanks Pete.

Race day Folks  :)  Looking forward to a high speed blat  8)


Title: Re: UKAC Season 15 F1 1975 Round 1 - Buenos Aires - Nov 20
Post by: Bob on November 13, 2019, 10:25:26 AM +0000
What race? Race heading says Nov 20, next week.


Title: Re: UKAC Season 15 F1 1975 Round 1 - Buenos Aires - Nov 20
Post by: Mark J on November 13, 2019, 10:59:35 AM +0000
What race? Race heading says Nov 20, next week.

Oh bugger yes, course it does, just checking if anyone is still reading these threads  :laugh:
 :-[ Doh I was looking forward to this too  ;D Oh well, more time for practise  ;)


Title: Re: UKAC Season 15 F1 1975 Round 1 - Buenos Aires - Nov 20
Post by: Bob on November 13, 2019, 11:02:17 AM +0000
 ;D Thank goodness, not had any practice as yet.


Title: Re: UKAC Season 15 F1 1975 Round 1 - Buenos Aires - Nov 20
Post by: FullMetalGasket on November 13, 2019, 11:41:07 AM +0000
Make sure you do. Aside from ensuring your gears are long enough, track familiarity is far more important than setup for this place. There are some very fast sections you need to learn the correct line for


Title: Re: UKAC Season 15 F1 1975 Round 1 - Buenos Aires - Nov 20
Post by: Mark J on November 13, 2019, 01:17:18 PM +0000
i couldnt find a 1975 track map to copy into post 1 but this is the circuit configuration (4th image down)

https://www.statsf1.com/en/circuit-buenos-aires.aspx (https://www.statsf1.com/en/circuit-buenos-aires.aspx)  hence my scalextric comment as it looks the kind of circuit i would have made up!  ;D
A very satisfying track to race around on, big kahunas required for braking at the end of the Recta del Lago!  :o and the huge sweeping Salotto is very technical  :)


Title: Re: UKAC Season 15 F1 1975 Round 1 - Buenos Aires - Nov 20
Post by: FullMetalGasket on November 13, 2019, 02:14:22 PM +0000
I swear you use yahoo or something  :P
What's wrong with the Wikipedia article about the Gp?
https://www.google.co.uk/url?sa=t&source=web&rct=j&url=https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/1975_Argentine_Grand_Prix&ved=2ahUKEwiO1_-rruflAhVxqHEKHY3JAygQFjAAegQIAxAB&usg=AOvVaw0k3vPeeotHsZ8fZ5O3lbay (https://www.google.co.uk/url?sa=t&source=web&rct=j&url=https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/1975_Argentine_Grand_Prix&ved=2ahUKEwiO1_-rruflAhVxqHEKHY3JAygQFjAAegQIAxAB&usg=AOvVaw0k3vPeeotHsZ8fZ5O3lbay)


Title: Re: UKAC Season 15 F1 1975 Round 1 - Buenos Aires - Nov 20
Post by: Mark J on November 13, 2019, 04:35:30 PM +0000
I swear you use yahoo or something  :P
What's wrong with the Wikipedia article about the Gp?
https://www.google.co.uk/url?sa=t&source=web&rct=j&url=https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/1975_Argentine_Grand_Prix&ved=2ahUKEwiO1_-rruflAhVxqHEKHY3JAygQFjAAegQIAxAB&usg=AOvVaw0k3vPeeotHsZ8fZ5O3lbay (https://www.google.co.uk/url?sa=t&source=web&rct=j&url=https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/1975_Argentine_Grand_Prix&ved=2ahUKEwiO1_-rruflAhVxqHEKHY3JAygQFjAAegQIAxAB&usg=AOvVaw0k3vPeeotHsZ8fZ5O3lbay)

yes i saw the wiki links but they dont let you swipe their map images. They become a format that this site doesnt support (as far as i know).


Title: Re: UKAC Season 15 F1 1975 Round 1 - Buenos Aires - Nov 20
Post by: MaxVeloce on November 13, 2019, 08:34:00 PM +0000
I swear you use yahoo or something  :P

bing!


Title: Re: UKAC Season 15 F1 1975 Round 1 - Buenos Aires - Nov 20
Post by: FullMetalGasket on November 18, 2019, 06:13:13 AM +0000
For anyone still not sold on the DFV sounds I found and linked to in the series threads  ;)

Standard sounds from the Mod (Lotus 72 - One of the better sounding cars)
https://youtu.be/AkrhTDgVDwc (https://youtu.be/AkrhTDgVDwc)

Hesketh 308 - Using the updated DFV sounds:
https://youtu.be/mVxhIXbLNXM (https://youtu.be/mVxhIXbLNXM)


Title: Re: UKAC Season 15 F1 1975 Round 1 - Buenos Aires - Nov 20
Post by: Mark J on November 18, 2019, 09:35:01 AM +0000
good work FMG  :)

I see Fabri has been putting the laps in over the weekend  :o and has now edged me in the timings with his shiny red Ferrari. But if the race runs true to form,both Ferraris will collide and take each other out  ;D
not much sign of other drivers practising despite the two weeks notice  :-\


Title: Re: UKAC Season 15 F1 1975 Round 1 - Buenos Aires - Nov 20
Post by: FullMetalGasket on November 18, 2019, 10:19:52 AM +0000
I did a 4 lap race against a  full grid - looks awesome in the new replay cameras, especially lap 1.


Title: Re: UKAC Season 15 F1 1975 Round 1 - Buenos Aires - Nov 20
Post by: Mark J on November 18, 2019, 11:24:06 AM +0000
not tempted any of the SRO guys over? Had no bites from F1 classic site or Kunos either. I would have thought this series would grab the attention of the enthusiasts. Not even the VDA guys have ventured over.


Title: Re: UKAC Season 15 F1 1975 Round 1 - Buenos Aires - Nov 20
Post by: KDiesel on November 18, 2019, 01:37:21 PM +0000
not tempted any of the SRO guys over? Had no bites from F1 classic site or Kunos either. I would have thought this series would grab the attention of the enthusiasts. Not even the VDA guys have ventured over.

I just posted this thread to SRO, hope that someone will join.


Title: Re: UKAC Season 15 F1 1975 Round 1 - Buenos Aires - Nov 20
Post by: MaxVeloce on November 18, 2019, 01:55:56 PM +0000
I'm gonna skip this one, not enjoying the track at all...


Title: Re: UKAC Season 15 F1 1975 Round 1 - Buenos Aires - Nov 20
Post by: KDiesel on November 18, 2019, 02:24:37 PM +0000
I'm gonna skip this one, not enjoying the track at all...

Enjoy car & battles then, c'mon mate... :fencing:


Title: Re: UKAC Season 15 F1 1975 Round 1 - Buenos Aires - Nov 20
Post by: Mark J on November 18, 2019, 02:59:06 PM +0000
I'm gonna skip this one, not enjoying the track at all...

 ::) Based on 6 laps of practise?  its a great race track, stop being a girl  :laugh:


Title: Re: UKAC Season 15 F1 1975 Round 1 - Buenos Aires - Nov 20
Post by: MaxVeloce on November 18, 2019, 03:11:29 PM +0000
Based on the fact its just a bad 5 minute conversion from a GPL mod or similar that was originally made 15 years ago.  50 pence corners, no physics mesh - those bumps exiting some turns are misalignment / gaps between the poly of the track model because there aren't enough of them, and the god awful textures - for example the white lines are the edge of the track just turn into a blurry mess 50m in front the car.

Not fun,  so I'm gonna get my bra and panties and be a girl this week, which might be more fun  :P


Title: Re: UKAC Season 15 F1 1975 Round 1 - Buenos Aires - Nov 20
Post by: Fabri Fibra on November 18, 2019, 03:55:52 PM +0000
Yes, bad converted track.
I have trouble enough to see the limits of the track. Practically you have to drive to the blind. But after a hundred laps it's better. So, Max, go training.  :)


Title: Re: UKAC Season 15 F1 1975 Round 1 - Buenos Aires - Nov 20
Post by: KDiesel on November 18, 2019, 04:02:41 PM +0000

Not fun,  so I'm gonna get my bra and panties and be a girl this week, which might be more fun  :P

 :lol: :rockon:


Title: Re: UKAC Season 15 F1 1975 Round 1 - Buenos Aires - Nov 20
Post by: Mark J on November 18, 2019, 04:26:45 PM +0000
The track was converted or improved by the modder Rainmaker, who from what i can read on other forums (including the F1 classic site where this car mod came from) is quite respected  :-\
Yes we would all prefer laser scanned top end tracks by Kunos but that makes the choice pretty limiting! especially when trying to run a 1975 season  :P Other than some bumps (which were present on all tracks in the 70's!) i havent got anything bad to say about this track, which is a hoot to race around on.


Title: Re: UKAC Season 15 F1 1975 Round 1 - Buenos Aires - Nov 20
Post by: IbnSolmyr on November 18, 2019, 09:08:31 PM +0000
 ???

Sorry guys, but I just discovered that this series allows for use of auto-clutch, and so for paddles gearshifts also I guess ??

I would be pleased to be wrong, but if it is the case, I'm not interested in such a series. I definitely don't see the point to drive classic cars in a modern way.


Title: Re: UKAC Season 15 F1 1975 Round 1 - Buenos Aires - Nov 20
Post by: Fabri Fibra on November 18, 2019, 09:25:07 PM +0000
Not worry about that, I think mostly here are full manual.


Title: Re: UKAC Season 15 F1 1975 Round 1 - Buenos Aires - Nov 20
Post by: FullMetalGasket on November 18, 2019, 09:55:53 PM +0000
???

Sorry guys, but I just discovered that this series allows for use of auto-clutch, and so for paddles gearshifts also I guess ??

I would be pleased to be wrong, but if it is the case, I'm not interested in such a series. I definitely don't see the point to drive classic cars in a modern way.

Then don't  ???
They're faster when full manual anyway so it's not like anyone can get an advantage over you


Title: Re: UKAC Season 15 F1 1975 Round 1 - Buenos Aires - Nov 20
Post by: Mark J on November 18, 2019, 11:11:12 PM +0000
Full manual for me, wouldn’t have it any other way for old cars  :)


Title: Re: UKAC Season 15 F1 1975 Round 1 - Buenos Aires - Nov 20
Post by: IbnSolmyr on November 18, 2019, 11:24:42 PM +0000
Not worry about that, I think mostly here are full manual.

Then why not just prohibit those driving aids ?  ::)


Title: Re: UKAC Season 15 F1 1975 Round 1 - Buenos Aires - Nov 20
Post by: IbnSolmyr on November 18, 2019, 11:36:50 PM +0000
???

Sorry guys, but I just discovered that this series allows for use of auto-clutch, and so for paddles gearshifts also I guess ??

I would be pleased to be wrong, but if it is the case, I'm not interested in such a series. I definitely don't see the point to drive classic cars in a modern way.

Then don't  ???
They're faster when full manual anyway so it's not like anyone can get an advantage over you

I never understood this point : how could it be faster when AI can do it for you ? Even if ever the clutching time from AI was a little bit longer (I'm not sure about that), the advantage of not having to deal with a 3rd pedal, plus the heel and toe, plus possibly the no handle of H pattern, plus possibly keeping both hands on the wheel, plus the lacking tiredness due to all those lacking moves for a whole race would be a huge advantage imo.
As counterpart, the only advantage in manual clutching is to be able to clutch while in some bad grip situations to recover in a more easy way, which you can't do while in auto-clutch.


Title: Re: UKAC Season 15 F1 1975 Round 1 - Buenos Aires - Nov 20
Post by: IbnSolmyr on November 18, 2019, 11:43:14 PM +0000
Looks like I fail to post a screenshot but the server tells that some drivers use auto-clutch, and some even don't use H-pattern (which kinda makes sense when you're in auto-clutch).
Don't get me wrong, I don't want to blame them or something, everyone does what he wants, I respect that of course. But that's not for me.

Edit : By trying that auto-clutch option directly on the server, it looked like it didn't work properly, braking the gearbox in 1 to 3 gear changes... so that I don't get why server's data tell that some drivers use it..  ???
I have to admit that I'm not familiar with this thing at all, so maybe I didn't set it up correctly.


Title: Re: UKAC Season 15 F1 1975 Round 1 - Buenos Aires - Nov 20
Post by: Fabri Fibra on November 19, 2019, 02:11:35 AM +0000
I understand your reasoning. I also think that it is possible to be faster using paddles and no-clutch, there should be something to reduce shift times to zero (at least I think so). Around, I've seen a lot of people use paddles and be faster.

In any case, this is not the case with the people racing here. I speak clearly, the fastest is Fmg, which uses an old G25 (all manual) and often loses its calibration too. Also the rest of the drivers are almost all full manual, at least for the fastest ones. I'm the same with a G27.
So don't worry.

About which use paddles instead manual things (having a H pattern) only for be faster? They make me laugh.  ;D :-*


Title: Re: UKAC Season 15 F1 1975 Round 1 - Buenos Aires - Nov 20
Post by: Bob on November 19, 2019, 06:57:59 AM +0000
 ;D The slowest also use clutch and gearstick, and the sequential plate when required. The whole immersion of driving these cars in VR would be lost otherwise. On a side note I'll be celebrating my 75th birthday tomorrow so may be a little more erratic than normal. :wacko:


Title: Re: UKAC Season 15 F1 1975 Round 1 - Buenos Aires - Nov 20
Post by: Mark J on November 19, 2019, 09:58:21 AM +0000
wow, happy Birthday for tomorrow Bob  :sorcerer: :rockon:  Hope you can still make the race, its a good way to celebrate it with the '75' connection  ;) ;D

I dont know who here uses paddles for racing the older stuff, if any. Like you guys i've always thought it a bit sucky if someone does as it must be quicker for the reasons ibn mentions, with no tired mis-shifts, one handed steering whilst downshifting etc. But i wouldnt want to reduce numbers by stopping anyone racing who only has that set up, more the merrier  :angel:


Title: Re: UKAC Season 15 F1 1975 Round 1 - Buenos Aires - Nov 20
Post by: IbnSolmyr on November 19, 2019, 10:11:03 AM +0000
;D The slowest also use clutch and gearstick, and the sequential plate when required. The whole immersion of driving these cars in VR would be lost otherwise. On a side note I'll be celebrating my 75th birthday tomorrow so may be a little more erratic than normal. :wacko:

I've always been so pleased to see you racing (and on such a regular basis) Bob, always well-mannered, fair, and so young for your age. How much I would like to be as young as you seem to @75yo !!
Plus I remember you sometimes being really fast, by the way.   ;)

Happy birthady my old friend !  :clap:


Title: Re: UKAC Season 15 F1 1975 Round 1 - Buenos Aires - Nov 20
Post by: Bob on November 19, 2019, 10:21:28 AM +0000
 ;D thanks, the years keep rolling by but the mind stays the same :thumbup1:


Title: Re: UKAC Season 15 F1 1975 Round 1 - Buenos Aires - Nov 20
Post by: MaxVeloce on November 19, 2019, 10:37:18 AM +0000
Looks like I fail to post a screenshot but the server tells that some drivers use auto-clutch, and some even don't use H-pattern (which kinda makes sense when you're in auto-clutch).
Don't get me wrong, I don't want to blame them or something, everyone does what he wants, I respect that of course. But that's not for me.

Assuming ( :o ) you're referring to the stracker info,  it's not 100% correct / accurate, just look at an old session driving a paddle car where it says people are using an h-shifter http://stracker.simracing.org.uk:50041/lapstat?currservers=SimRacing.org.uk I'm sure it just lists assists available on the server and the controllers people have connected IF it recognises them


Personally, I'm using  frex h-shifter + pedal clutch so when the car breaks I just get annoyed at myself...


Title: Re: UKAC Season 15 F1 1975 Round 1 - Buenos Aires - Nov 20
Post by: IbnSolmyr on November 19, 2019, 10:47:27 AM +0000
About the no-clutching thing and so on : maybe I don't understand correctly the informations provided by the server in-depth data, then, as it tells that fmg is actually using auto-clutch (for his fastest laps on the server at least). I didn't want to name any of the supposed users, it's not the point I wanted to bring up, but as it seems to be an error by me, I can now.. Also I very well know that fmg is extremely fast, and will keep being whatever the circumstances. He's just an alien.

Maybe it's Stracker related, maybe it's me not understanding how to read it.

Also in this particular case maybe the mod doesn't permit to use auto-clutch efficiently.
But I agree with you Fab, to me it's clear that can provide an advantage, even in strict physics game engine terms, loads of exemple where I saw it. It can even be heard by the sound of gearshifting, and seen when 2 cars are side by side in a straightline : one of them jumps a few meters forward when upshifting.
I remember it was the same thing in GTL yet, even worse cause most of the cars were able to always upshift full gaz without any clutch concept at all..  :o

About paddles, I was used to think that if you unplug your H-pattern, the game will automatically allow you to use paddles if you have some on your wheel, even on a classic car. but maybe I'm wrong, it would need investigations.

Also i'm going to come on the server setting up one of my pathetic laptimes to see what the server will tell from my hardware config. Perhaps it will also tell I'm using auto-clutch !  :laugh:

And a last note about my remarks : firstly they weren't intended to attack anyone, I hope you all understand and secondly they weren't intended to hide or to attenuate my poor driving performances. I just don't drive to primarily win, it's really secondary for me, even if I try my best to catch the fast guys of course. To me the most important is to drive those classic cars in a realistic and fair, gentleman way. I mean, as realistic as possible of course. Like the real lucky enough guys who drive them @ Le Mans Classics, Goodwood, Classic days and so on..


Title: Re: UKAC Season 15 F1 1975 Round 1 - Buenos Aires - Nov 20
Post by: IbnSolmyr on November 19, 2019, 11:15:09 AM +0000
Looks like I fail to post a screenshot but the server tells that some drivers use auto-clutch, and some even don't use H-pattern (which kinda makes sense when you're in auto-clutch).
Don't get me wrong, I don't want to blame them or something, everyone does what he wants, I respect that of course. But that's not for me.

Assuming ( :o ) you're referring to the stracker info,  it's not 100% correct / accurate, just look at an old session driving a paddle car where it says people are using an h-shifter http://stracker.simracing.org.uk:50041/lapstat?currservers=SimRacing.org.uk I'm sure it just lists assists available on the server and the controllers people have connected IF it recognises them

Ok, this is what I was more and more suspecting..  :-\


Title: Re: UKAC Season 15 F1 1975 Round 1 - Buenos Aires - Nov 20
Post by: Mark J on November 19, 2019, 12:30:35 PM +0000
My sponsors put this together  ;)

 https://youtu.be/k1XqB09wZYQ (https://youtu.be/k1XqB09wZYQ)

 8)


Title: Re: UKAC Season 15 F1 1975 Round 1 - Buenos Aires - Nov 20
Post by: MaxVeloce on November 19, 2019, 03:34:57 PM +0000
Nice,  do you get to meet the models too  :laugh:


Title: Re: UKAC Season 15 F1 1975 Round 1 - Buenos Aires - Nov 20
Post by: FullMetalGasket on November 19, 2019, 05:18:53 PM +0000
???

Sorry guys, but I just discovered that this series allows for use of auto-clutch, and so for paddles gearshifts also I guess ??

I would be pleased to be wrong, but if it is the case, I'm not interested in such a series. I definitely don't see the point to drive classic cars in a modern way.

Then don't  ???
They're faster when full manual anyway so it's not like anyone can get an advantage over you

I never understood this point : how could it be faster when AI can do it for you ? Even if ever the clutching time from AI was a little bit longer (I'm not sure about that), the advantage of not having to deal with a 3rd pedal, plus the heel and toe, plus possibly the no handle of H pattern, plus possibly keeping both hands on the wheel, plus the lacking tiredness due to all those lacking moves for a whole race would be a huge advantage imo.
As counterpart, the only advantage in manual clutching is to be able to clutch while in some bad grip situations to recover in a more easy way, which you can't do while in auto-clutch.

I think you're confusing auto-clutch with auto-blip (like the GT3's). With auto-clutch you still have to rev match in order to keep control on the edge. To me at least it is far more natural to balance the car using Heal+Toe during braking through corners/in a slide ect, even in a go-kart I struggle a bit at doing left foot braking despite having spent ages trying to learn.

Additionally in a lot of classic cars - the F1 75 cars in particular - You skip half of the gears while braking. So a 1st gear hairpin after a big straight will be 5-3-1, or simply 5-1 if you're feeling very brave and have an understeery car.

In the Alfa GTA series we ran recently the last thing you wanted was paddles and both hands on the wheel - they drifted so much my wheel spent most of it's time rotated at least 180 degrees from straight. The concentration required to actually change gear in the direction I wanted would have been greater than the rest of the driving/racing combined!

I think S-tracker just reports your settings in the game - mines set to to allow stock driver aids for when I'm messing about in road cars and/or the GT stuff. Therefore I assume S-tracker sees this and says I have them available to me. If this mod was as sensitive as the Kuno's Lotus 72 I can assure you I'd actually fail to finish a few rounds through this series just as a result of gearbox failure  ;D


Title: Re: UKAC Season 15 F1 1975 Round 1 - Buenos Aires - Nov 20
Post by: Fabri Fibra on November 19, 2019, 05:45:13 PM +0000
Happy Birthday Bob for tomorrow!

Maxime (ibn), about ptracker icons, the assist of auto-clutch seems ON in every case. The same is with RSR tables; only for few cars auto-clutch icon is correctly OFF. If you open the info about the lap, you can check what kind of "shifter used" the driver has (H pattern, paddles or other). NB: "other" often is an external H pattern thing.

In a discussion in a italian forum I read that is possible use paddles without use the clutch, using a external program for that (it reduces the time of shifting to 0). If I remember well it is possible also without the assist of auto-clutch. I remember that an russian guy explained this on this forum and also gave a link.
So the problem is not auto-clutch or not.

I like full realism but I agree with Mark, mantein the auto-clutch ON it gives the possibility to race even those with a low budget steering wheel.

Faster guys here are all manual, because are people that like realism and old cars.

The impressive Fmg's time is on soft tyres and few fuel (you can check this via ptracker).
Grant me to say this as well: Hesketh is also a car quite slow and absolutely one of the most difficult to drive.
Me and Fmg spent a lot of time to test all cars.

About gearbox brittleness, the one in 312T is terrible, both in AC car and mod car.




Title: Re: UKAC Season 15 F1 1975 Round 1 - Buenos Aires - Nov 20
Post by: FullMetalGasket on November 19, 2019, 05:55:01 PM +0000
I've made the Hesketh a 'bit' faster now Fabri ;)

Anyway. In other news - Facebook has just reminded me that 3 years ago today I was in the Pits at Suzuka with these beauties :wub:

(https://i.postimg.cc/26mzvCVJ/Suzuka-Pits.jpg)

I watched the F1 from the exit of spoon curve - the Noise was unspeakably good as they powered down the straight towards 130R...


Title: Re: UKAC Season 15 F1 1975 Round 1 - Buenos Aires - Nov 20
Post by: Fabri Fibra on November 19, 2019, 06:03:05 PM +0000
The Regazzoni's 312T from early '76, i think.

The flat V12 Ferrari is pure music. You were lucky to see these cars.

Mark, about skins how does work? We need choise one? I take the Lauda's skin, of course.  ::)

I need more engine-power for matching you, Fmg. Ferrari, I need more HP!!!


Title: Re: UKAC Season 15 F1 1975 Round 1 - Buenos Aires - Nov 20
Post by: FullMetalGasket on November 19, 2019, 06:43:56 PM +0000
The airscoops were banned in '76 I thought? Pretty sure this was the '75 car. Can't read the programme as it's in Ninja
And you already have 10Bhp more than I do!  :P


Title: Re: UKAC Season 15 F1 1975 Round 1 - Buenos Aires - Nov 20
Post by: Fabri Fibra on November 19, 2019, 07:35:38 PM +0000
I think they did first races of '76 with airscoops, then were banned. Maybe I wrong.
In' 76 Lauda and Regazzoni had numbers 1 and 2.


Title: Re: UKAC Season 15 F1 1975 Round 1 - Buenos Aires - Nov 20
Post by: Mark J on November 19, 2019, 09:26:46 PM +0000
Satisfying praccy sesh tonight, setting 3 new pb’s  :). Bet I can’t do that on race night with other cars about  :P

Ps Fabri has a potential new driver but he is struggling to join the website, getting messages about spam. Can any admin help ?
He had this message:
Sorry, you are not allowed to register on this forum.Mass spam attack from popular email providers; if you aren't a spamner, please send an email to registration[at]simracing.org.uk with your desired username. Please include your email address in the body of your email.

I guess first off he should ping his details to that email address and hope site admin pick it up.


Title: Re: UKAC Season 15 F1 1975 Round 1 - Buenos Aires - Nov 20
Post by: LesN on November 19, 2019, 10:37:56 PM +0000
Okay if I join in tomorrow? Don't know which cars are taken/free... I'll take anything available, I'll be a back marker in any case


Title: Re: UKAC Season 15 F1 1975 Round 1 - Buenos Aires - Nov 20
Post by: Fabri Fibra on November 19, 2019, 10:58:59 PM +0000
Can I have the Lauda's skin?


Title: Re: UKAC Season 15 F1 1975 Round 1 - Buenos Aires - Nov 20
Post by: FullMetalGasket on November 20, 2019, 06:28:25 AM +0000
Okay if I join in tomorrow? Don't know which cars are taken/free... I'll take anything available, I'll be a back marker in any case

Take a look here= https://www.simracing.org.uk/smf/index.php?topic=16312.0 (https://www.simracing.org.uk/smf/index.php?topic=16312.0)

That shows most of the cars already chosen in the first post, although marks missed a few now (i'm in the Hesketh for example).
If you go a few pages theough the thread you'll see a bunch of testing I did at Zandvoort in all of the cars.
This should give an idea of speeds relative to each other,  I also gave driving impressions for a lot of them.

Once you've picked what you're driving post it on that thread and Pete can assign it to you properly (shouldn't matter for tonight's race).

If you can pick something no one else is using that'll be even better!


Title: Re: UKAC Season 15 F1 1975 Round 1 - Buenos Aires - Nov 20
Post by: picnic on November 20, 2019, 08:53:33 AM +0000
Can I have the Lauda's skin?
Unless someone has curated a definitive list of drivers, car/skin choices and Steam GUIDs the car selection is going to be pretty random. I have no idea how many cars of each flavour are required, the number of drivers taking part.....

MJ I've assumed you been tracking this and will let myself or SRW have that list well in advance of the race!!!!!


Title: Re: UKAC Season 15 F1 1975 Round 1 - Buenos Aires - Nov 20
Post by: Mark J on November 20, 2019, 08:58:34 AM +0000
Welcome LesN, more the merrier  :) Still some good cars up for grabs.

@Fabri, there is no driver entry file so i cannot guarantee which Ferrari you are given of the two available as the server handles it.
There are generally 2 each available of the well known cars and 1 of each of the lesser known teams.

Here is the current driver list for tonights race:-
(Latest)

1)MJ - Brabham
2)Max Veloce - Mclaren - possibly not racing this round
3)Stefan (Postal) - Brabham (or Tyrell)
4)Fabri - Ferrari
5)Bob - Fittipaldi
6)FMG - Hesketh
7)Kdiesel - BRM
8)Jeff ?
9)Picnic
10)Goldtop - Parnelli
11)SirBarone - Ferrari
12) L4de - Lotus
13)ibnsolmyer - Surtees
14) LesN - March
15) VVA ?
16) Cerebral Vortex - Mclaren - Possibly not racing this round?
17) Olius - TBC Possibly not racing this round?
18) Syd Drake - Tyrell



Title: Re: UKAC Season 15 F1 1975 Round 1 - Buenos Aires - Nov 20
Post by: Syd Drake on November 20, 2019, 09:16:40 AM +0000
I'm thinking about trying this.
But physics update link in the first post is not working, and link for 1.2 patch is the same as the link for the mod?


Title: Re: UKAC Season 15 F1 1975 Round 1 - Buenos Aires - Nov 20
Post by: Mark J on November 20, 2019, 10:13:55 AM +0000
I'm thinking about trying this.
But physics update link in the first post is not working, and link for 1.2 patch is the same as the link for the mod?

Am i right in thinking that all you need to do is download the 1.2 version of the 1975 mod? I dont think you need 1.05 base mod any longer as the mod itself is released as 1.2. Can someone clarify? (i'm at work).


Title: Re: UKAC Season 15 F1 1975 Round 1 - Buenos Aires - Nov 20
Post by: LesN on November 20, 2019, 10:30:24 AM +0000
Cheers FMG, will do


Title: Re: UKAC Season 15 F1 1975 Round 1 - Buenos Aires - Nov 20
Post by: Syd Drake on November 20, 2019, 11:36:47 AM +0000
I'm thinking about trying this.
But physics update link in the first post is not working, and link for 1.2 patch is the same as the link for the mod?

Am i right in thinking that all you need to do is download the 1.2 version of the 1975 mod? I dont think you need 1.05 base mod any longer as the mod itself is released as 1.2. Can someone clarify? (i'm at work).
Seems like it, but then the first post should be edited, as it's confusing to potential new drivers.


Title: Re: UKAC Season 15 F1 1975 Round 1 - Buenos Aires - Nov 20
Post by: Mark J on November 20, 2019, 11:43:23 AM +0000
Yes, sorry about that, most of us have had it installed for a while so the various links were needed, but the mod author has made 1.2 the base mod now so post 1 links amended.   :angel:  But worth jumping on the practise server at some point today to make sure you are compatible. (also read the pdf that comes with the mod as you need to copy files over from the Lotus 72 and Ferrari 312) - straightforward.


Title: Re: UKAC Season 15 F1 1975 Round 1 - Buenos Aires - Nov 20
Post by: Syd Drake on November 20, 2019, 12:27:08 PM +0000
Thanks. Installed. I'll try it when I come back home tonight, before the race. I'll just try to stay out of the way for this one :)


Title: Re: UKAC Season 15 F1 1975 Round 1 - Buenos Aires - Nov 20
Post by: Mark J on November 20, 2019, 01:27:37 PM +0000
To any racers new to this place, the race password will appear in a banner above this race thread. PM me if you cannot see it.  :)

@Picnic do i have the relevant server permissions to boot anyone who shows up on the night and takes one of the pre-assigned cars? Obviously i will tell them first in the chat window so they can re-join with another un-assigned car. (if not, can i have that control?). Just in case someone turns up and takes a Ferrari for instance, as that would prevent the two guys who have practised with that car from using it.
Hopefully it wont happen as i assume most guys racing will have looked at this thread and seen what cars are assigned to a driver  :whistling:


Title: Re: UKAC Season 15 F1 1975 Round 1 - Buenos Aires - Nov 20
Post by: Wiltshire Tony on November 20, 2019, 02:02:20 PM +0000

1)MJ - Brabham
2)Max Veloce - Mclaren - possibly not racing this round
3)Stefan (Postal) - Brabham (or Tyrell)
4)Fabri - Ferrari
5)Bob - Fittipaldi
6)FMG - Hesketh
7)Kdiesel - BRM
8)Jeff ?
9)Picnic
10)Goldtop - Parnelli
11)SirBarone - Ferrari
12) L4de - Lotus
13)ibnsolmyer - Surtees
14) LesN - Mclaren
15) VVA ?
16) Cerebral Vortex - Mclaren - Possibly not racing this round?
17) Olius - TBC Possibly not racing this round?
18) Syd Drake - Tyrell


Mark, just my opinion, but, this would be better placed in the first post of every race. Rather than being lost in the thread.


Title: Re: UKAC Season 15 F1 1975 Round 1 - Buenos Aires - Nov 20
Post by: MaxVeloce on November 20, 2019, 02:22:26 PM +0000

Here is the current driver list for tonights race:-
(Latest)

1)MJ - Brabham
2)Max Veloce - Mclaren - possibly not racing this round
3)Stefan (Postal) - Brabham (or Tyrell)
4)Fabri - Ferrari
5)Bob - Fittipaldi
6)FMG - Hesketh
7)Kdiesel - BRM
8)Jeff ?
9)Picnic
10)Goldtop - Parnelli
11)SirBarone - Ferrari
12) L4de - Lotus
13)ibnsolmyer - Surtees
14) LesN - Mclaren
15) VVA ?
16) Cerebral Vortex - Mclaren - Possibly not racing this round?
17) Olius - TBC Possibly not racing this round?
18) Syd Drake - Tyrell



I'll make it easy for you and say I'm not going to make it today, so if 2 other guys want to take the mclaren for the series they might as well start today.   I can pick some other car for future races  ;)


Title: Re: UKAC Season 15 F1 1975 Round 1 - Buenos Aires - Nov 20
Post by: LesN on November 20, 2019, 02:24:59 PM +0000
I should be in the March...


Title: Re: UKAC Season 15 F1 1975 Round 1 - Buenos Aires - Nov 20
Post by: Mark J on November 20, 2019, 02:55:09 PM +0000
Drivers table moved to 1st post (i was waiting for any more Johnny come latelys  ;) )

LesN corrected car to March  :-*


Title: Re: UKAC Season 15 F1 1975 Round 1 - Buenos Aires - Nov 20
Post by: Mark J on November 20, 2019, 04:19:16 PM +0000
anyone know who VVA AVV is? He has practised on the server a few times with different cars but i dont know if he is intending to race tonight  :-\

Did Fabris race friends manage to get signed up on the site?


Title: Re: UKAC Season 15 F1 1975 Round 1 - Buenos Aires - Nov 20
Post by: Fabri Fibra on November 20, 2019, 04:45:52 PM +0000
Vva is a friend of mine too.


Title: Re: UKAC Season 15 F1 1975 Round 1 - Buenos Aires - Nov 20
Post by: goldtop on November 20, 2019, 05:28:31 PM +0000
I'm going to have to miss this one and the following 2 rounds unfortunately but should be back for Montjuic. Real life and work getting in the way of playtime again....I want to retire  :cursing:


Title: Re: UKAC Season 15 F1 1975 Round 1 - Buenos Aires - Nov 20
Post by: Fabri Fibra on November 20, 2019, 05:54:22 PM +0000
Unfortunately Barone will miss this round cause delay at work.


Title: Re: UKAC Season 15 F1 1975 Round 1 - Buenos Aires - Nov 20
Post by: picnic on November 20, 2019, 07:36:24 PM +0000
Sorry run a few minutes late, just trying to generate the new entry list file. Server will be up in 5 mins


Title: Re: UKAC Season 15 F1 1975 Round 1 - Buenos Aires - Nov 20
Post by: picnic on November 20, 2019, 07:46:59 PM +0000
Server should be up with race password. I basically added all the cars twice so everyone should get their car choice but not always in the right skin I'm afraid.

Please shout if something's not right as I can't hang around too long


Title: Re: UKAC Season 15 F1 1975 Round 1 - Buenos Aires - Nov 20
Post by: Mark J on November 21, 2019, 08:59:43 AM +0000
thanks Pete, all went smoothly that i could see.  :)

Enjoyable if not that exciting race for me. Got a lights to flag 2nd place and didnt really get any competition the whole race. In fact i got excited when i caught back markers as at least i got to see some of the cars in action  ;D

Qualified 3rd, got a decent start but with Kdiesels BRM attacking me in the first few corners. We had a Ferrari tyre rub without our cars imploding  :laugh:
I also got past Fabri in the sweeping turn and expected them both to be assaulting me further around the lap but one of the new drivers appeared in my mirrors for a few laps in a cool yellow car. I started to pull an increasing gap on those behind whilst fmg did similar to me, and after 5 laps or so i was pretty much on my tod until the end.

VR cockpit view whilst wrestling the steering down the aptly named Tobogan corner complex felt so immersive, like watching Sennas onboard at Monaco!  8) Grid of 70's F1 cars revving on the grid was pretty special too  :)

Nice haul of points for me in round 1, will expect more sterner competition in the rest of the series.  :)  FMG needs some stiffer opposition for a title challenge too!  :surrender:

ps...what happened to the two Finns about 2/3rds into the race? both disapeared at same time.  ???


Title: Re: UKAC Season 15 F1 1975 Round 1 - Buenos Aires - Nov 20
Post by: LesN on November 21, 2019, 09:23:01 AM +0000
I had a decent race in my yellow car without making too many unforced errosat least, and had a good battle defending myself from Bob in the Fittipaldi.

Everyone had more straight line speed than me, but I was at least the last of the late brakers into the right left at the end of the back straight. I realised too late I was running far too much downforce (if these cars could actually generate much downforce I'm not sure)

Looking forward to Brazil now... would be good to have some more cars though, we were pretty spread out most of the time.


Title: Re: UKAC Season 15 F1 1975 Round 1 - Buenos Aires - Nov 20
Post by: Mark J on November 21, 2019, 11:22:33 AM +0000
Looking forward to Brazil now... would be good to have some more cars though, we were pretty spread out most of the time.

Indeed, out of 18 listed drivers only about 10 or 11 turned up for round 1  ::)  :'( For various reasons some were awol this week, hopefully the grids will expand as real life permits for some.

Interlagos '75 should be another cracker of a track in these cars  8)


Title: Re: UKAC Season 15 F1 1975 Round 1 - Buenos Aires - Nov 20
Post by: Fabri Fibra on November 21, 2019, 11:26:12 AM +0000
When I have turn back to pits, the team asked if I had some problem with engine. Ferrari did a phonecall, he was furious. "A Ferrari is slower on straights than a car self built in a garage", he said.

I had an intense and really hard fight with Maxime. Every lap I was really close exiting from fast right corner but my speed was not enough. Maxime defended himself very well and hard. Unfortunately we lost tons of time in that battle. Considering my low wings set that was quite embarrassing.

After race, with the eng Forghieri we supposed to have too much areodinamic drag. Next time we will remove completely the wings.

Ferrari was also furious with me for my bad first lap. I'm risking my contract. He wants replace me with a Canadian snowmobiling driver.


Title: Re: UKAC Season 15 F1 1975 Round 1 - Buenos Aires - Nov 20
Post by: Mark J on November 21, 2019, 11:51:11 AM +0000
 :laugh:  nice race report Fabri  ;D  i can picture the Boss peering at you over his sunglasses blowing smoke in your face with a frown  ;D

Got to admit i really expected you to come back at me during the race as i could see you harassing the yellow car in my mirrors for a while. You seemed quite slow or overly cautious on lap 1 ?  :-\ 


Title: Re: UKAC Season 15 F1 1975 Round 1 - Buenos Aires - Nov 20
Post by: Fabri Fibra on November 21, 2019, 12:28:15 PM +0000
The 312t is dangerous with cold tires having a big understeering on fast corners. Maybe also I bad estimate the my speed in the fast right corner.

With tires in temp. in that point I was a lot faster than Maxime.
In every case, the 312t is never very friendly.
My gears set was also no perfect. For some reason the Rev in this mod seems too low, my max power should be at 12500, if I go so high (using 103 on Rev) I destroy my engine in 10 laps or less.
If I remember well with Ford is possible push above the max power rpm.


Title: Re: UKAC Season 15 F1 1975 Round 1 - Buenos Aires - Nov 20
Post by: CerebralVortex on November 21, 2019, 01:10:32 PM +0000
I have to say it is a very nice track ! Not particularly the quality of it (which was ok-ish) but the layout. Very fun with these cars.

I was understeering a lot in the fast corners, not only on cold tires.. That was my issue mainly, so I had to let go of the gas a lot. Not sure if it is how the car is or if I can change it with setup. I didn't change much setup wise, only longer gears and bit lower aero. I concentrated on learning the track which I hadn't driven before yesterday evening.

I was hit braking after the long straight on lap 1, lost a couple of places, after that I was chasing one of the finns :) Unfortunately I saw him warp 2 times before he was disconnected.

Hoping for more drivers next time !



Title: Re: UKAC Season 15 F1 1975 Round 1 - Buenos Aires - Nov 20
Post by: Bob on November 21, 2019, 01:38:43 PM +0000
A good race littered with mistakes. Battled with LesN most of it, good fair racing, well done LesN.


Title: Re: UKAC Season 15 F1 1975 Round 1 - Buenos Aires - Nov 20
Post by: LesN on November 21, 2019, 02:17:17 PM +0000
Anyone happen to save a replay?


Title: Re: UKAC Season 15 F1 1975 Round 1 - Buenos Aires - Nov 20
Post by: Mark J on November 21, 2019, 04:05:46 PM +0000
Anyone happen to save a replay?

FMG usually does.


Title: Re: UKAC Season 15 F1 1975 Round 1 - Buenos Aires - Nov 20
Post by: FullMetalGasket on November 21, 2019, 04:52:04 PM +0000
I did - but I'll need to delete all the sounds I uploaded for everyone in order to upload it.
Has everyone who wants the files got them?
For new joiners who don't know what I'm on about I mean these: https://www.racedepartment.com/downloads/cosworth-dfv-soundmod-immersive-replays.27747/ (https://www.racedepartment.com/downloads/cosworth-dfv-soundmod-immersive-replays.27747/)

Some videos I made at Buenos Aires to give you a comparison:

For anyone still not sold on the DFV sounds I found and linked to in the series threads  ;)

Standard sounds from the Mod (Lotus 72 - One of the better sounding cars)
https://youtu.be/AkrhTDgVDwc (https://youtu.be/AkrhTDgVDwc)

Hesketh 308 - Using the updated DFV sounds:
https://youtu.be/mVxhIXbLNXM (https://youtu.be/mVxhIXbLNXM)

I'll give it until tomorrow for everyone who wants them to grab the edited versions - after that you'l have to do it the harder way using the file from the site  :)
Sounds edited for F1 75 = https://www.dropbox.com/sh/xzxdeokrgya2o5a/AADbEO2X4NBrlepoUPBDxu7Ra?dl=0 (https://www.dropbox.com/sh/xzxdeokrgya2o5a/AADbEO2X4NBrlepoUPBDxu7Ra?dl=0)


My race was a bit quiet, I'd hoped Fabri would be bothering me as my tests showed the Ferrari on par with the Hesketh.
But for some reason I was lapping nearly half a second quicker in the race on my setup than I had been in practice  ???

As Mark says, I was also very pleased when I caught some backmarkers - it had been very quiet until then! Luckily this track is a blast to drive, despite being pretty poor in the graphics and quality department.
Brazil looks like it will be massive fun after taking a quick spin there yesterday to try it out  8)


Title: Re: UKAC Season 15 F1 1975 Round 1 - Buenos Aires - Nov 20
Post by: KDiesel on November 21, 2019, 05:30:51 PM +0000

ps...what happened to the two Finns about 2/3rds into the race? both disapeared at same time.  ???

Got some connection issue for some reason, maybe isp end... Racing with these cars is awesome!!!


Title: Re: UKAC Season 15 F1 1975 Round 1 - Buenos Aires - Nov 20
Post by: IbnSolmyr on November 21, 2019, 06:00:34 PM +0000
I have a replay for about the last 15 laps only, stock mod sounds. I can upload it if anyone wants.
As I don't have the first 10 laps, I'd be interested in grabbing a full replay too.

About the sounds, thank you fmg I'm getting them right now. Is the improvement a no-question ? For both in and out sounds ?


Title: Re: UKAC Season 15 F1 1975 Round 1 - Buenos Aires - Nov 20
Post by: FullMetalGasket on November 21, 2019, 08:08:10 PM +0000
Watch the two youtube links I put up in the thread and judge for yourself ;)

Personally I can't go back to the standard ones


Title: Re: UKAC Season 15 F1 1975 Round 1 - Buenos Aires - Nov 20
Post by: IbnSolmyr on November 21, 2019, 08:45:18 PM +0000
Watch the two youtube links I put up in the thread and judge for yourself ;)

Personally I can't go back to the standard ones

I did yet ofc. But there weren't onboard sounds, so I was asking myself if/how much they could have been revamped. And on sounds generally speaking, I use only headset speakers but looks like most of simracers use standard speakers, and this quite changes the sounds.

Anyway, I DLed all the files and will have a look tonight I hope.


Title: Re: UKAC Season 15 F1 1975 Round 1 - Buenos Aires - Nov 20
Post by: picnic on November 21, 2019, 08:46:50 PM +0000
Before I can import the results successfully please can I confirm the forum ID of the new drivers.

I think Maxime is Cerebral Vortex

not so sure for Laurent Londes, could you confirm for forum name for me please


Title: Re: UKAC Season 15 F1 1975 Round 1 - Buenos Aires - Nov 20
Post by: Fabri Fibra on November 21, 2019, 08:49:06 PM +0000
Cerebral Vortex is Laurent.
Ibn is Maxime.


Title: Re: UKAC Season 15 F1 1975 Round 1 - Buenos Aires - Nov 20
Post by: IbnSolmyr on November 21, 2019, 09:31:07 PM +0000
Before I can import the results successfully please can I confirm the forum ID of the new drivers.

I think Maxime is Cerebral Vortex

not so sure for Laurent Londes, could you confirm for forum name for me please

Yup, sry Ibn Solmyr = Maxime :)
I kept that game profile with my real name because it's mandatory @SRO... Should I copy my profile so that to race here it would suit my forum name ?


Title: Re: UKAC Season 15 F1 1975 Round 1 - Buenos Aires - Nov 20
Post by: picnic on November 21, 2019, 10:05:05 PM +0000
LOL - good job I didn't guess  ::)

You're free to use a different forum name to your real name I just need to match the 2 up to get the results imported correctly. Once done it's done forever (well for AC, it may need sorting again if you did RRE/GTL etc here but often the import system sometimes recognises this)


Title: Re: UKAC Season 15 F1 1975 Round 1 - Buenos Aires - Nov 20
Post by: FullMetalGasket on November 21, 2019, 10:11:18 PM +0000
How are you sorted on car makes/models/tires Pete?
I can create logo's for anything missing if needed - I've done that for a few series now in GPL and I think AC aswell now


Title: Re: UKAC Season 15 F1 1975 Round 1 - Buenos Aires - Nov 20
Post by: picnic on November 21, 2019, 10:20:54 PM +0000
It's not something I've got involved with in the past. If there are existing cars in the database I pick those, if I know they are the same, but these are all new. I think Dave and Wiltshire Tony do the magic here.


Title: Re: UKAC Season 15 F1 1975 Round 1 - Buenos Aires - Nov 20
Post by: Wiltshire Tony on November 22, 2019, 11:10:24 AM +0000
I think Dave and Wiltshire Tony do the magic here.
I can try and fill in some of the blanks. But it always best if race admins inform Dave, BEFORE THE SERIES STARTS, of any new cars being proposed.


Title: Re: UKAC Season 15 F1 1975 Round 1 - Buenos Aires - Nov 20
Post by: Mark J on November 22, 2019, 11:28:04 AM +0000
I think Dave and Wiltshire Tony do the magic here.
I can try and fill in some of the blanks. But it always best if race admins inform Dave, BEFORE THE SERIES STARTS, of any new cars being proposed.

Dave set up the championship for me, so he kinda was pre-informed  ;)


Title: Re: UKAC Season 15 F1 1975 Round 1 - Buenos Aires - Nov 20
Post by: Wiltshire Tony on November 22, 2019, 11:37:51 AM +0000
I think Dave and Wiltshire Tony do the magic here.
I can try and fill in some of the blanks. But it always best if race admins inform Dave, BEFORE THE SERIES STARTS, of any new cars being proposed.

Dave set up the championship for me, so he kinda was pre-informed  ;)
Well none of the cars appear in the Database.  ???


Title: Re: UKAC Season 15 F1 1975 Round 1 - Buenos Aires - Nov 20
Post by: Wiltshire Tony on November 22, 2019, 11:40:00 AM +0000
Are these all of the cars?

McLaren MP23
Tyrrell 007
Lotus 72E
Brabham BT44
March 751
Ferrari 312T
BRM P201
Shadow DN5
Surtees TS16
Williams FW04
Embassy-Hill GH1
Hesketh 308b
Parnelli VPJ4
March 751
Penske PC1
Fittipaldi FD


If I've missed any or some of the above are not used (or wrong) please shout out.

Then I can post the list to Dave.


Title: Re: UKAC Season 15 F1 1975 Round 1 - Buenos Aires - Nov 20
Post by: FullMetalGasket on November 22, 2019, 01:33:06 PM +0000
Cars are as follows - The Ensign isn't in this mod sadly.


Code:
Parnelli VPJ4       = 1:36.643 (I know I've said I liked it's handling, but really didn't expect that!)
BT44                = 1:36.846 (unspeakably fast even on stock setup)
Embassy/Hill GH1    = 1:36.873
Tyrrell 007         = 1:36.978 (fantastic to drive hard)
McLaren MP23        = 1:37.030
Lotus 72E           = 1.37.117 (very rewarding when right, evil when not)
Penske PC1          = 1:37.136 (Not so terrible with a decent setup under it)
Surtees TS16        = 1:37.171
Fittipaldi          = 1:37.173 (Stand out car for me, fantastic to drive - just let down by 'slower' DFV)
Williams FW04       = 1:37.277 (nice to drive)
Shadow DN5          = 1:37.370 (Very tail happy, hard to drive on edge)
BRM P201            = 1:37.382 (will certainly go faster will a better setup)
312T                = 1:37.472 (Not re-driven yet)
Hesketh 308b        = 1:37.499 (I've gone faster since with a better setup, but I'm not helping you lot :P )
Tyrrell P34         = 1:37.505 (Struggles on bumpy/hilly tracks, should go a bit faster)
March 751           = 1:37.562 (actually really quite hard to setup, twitchy to drive)



Title: Re: UKAC Season 15 F1 1975 Round 1 - Buenos Aires - Nov 20
Post by: Wiltshire Tony on November 22, 2019, 01:52:16 PM +0000
Cars are as follows - The Ensign isn't in this mod sadly.


Code:
Parnelli VPJ4       = 1:36.643 (I know I've said I liked it's handling, but really didn't expect that!)
BT44                = 1:36.846 (unspeakably fast even on stock setup)
Embassy/Hill GH1    = 1:36.873
Tyrrell 007         = 1:36.978 (fantastic to drive hard)
McLaren MP23        = 1:37.030
Lotus 72E           = 1.37.117 (very rewarding when right, evil when not)
Penske PC1          = 1:37.136 (Not so terrible with a decent setup under it)
Surtees TS16        = 1:37.171
Fittipaldi          = 1:37.173 (Stand out car for me, fantastic to drive - just let down by 'slower' DFV)
Williams FW04       = 1:37.277 (nice to drive)
Shadow DN5          = 1:37.370 (Very tail happy, hard to drive on edge)
BRM P201            = 1:37.382 (will certainly go faster will a better setup)
312T                = 1:37.472 (Not re-driven yet)
Hesketh 308b        = 1:37.499 (I've gone faster since with a better setup, but I'm not helping you lot :P )
Tyrrell P34         = 1:37.505 (Struggles on bumpy/hilly tracks, should go a bit faster)
March 751           = 1:37.562 (actually really quite hard to setup, twitchy to drive)

Cheers, I've modified my list to suit your reply and will send it up the line.


Title: Re: UKAC Season 15 F1 1975 Round 1 - Buenos Aires - Nov 20
Post by: IbnSolmyr on November 22, 2019, 04:35:49 PM +0000
For the forcomming events, if you want to put my flag, nationality is french here.  :)


Title: Re: UKAC Season 15 F1 1975 Round 1 - Buenos Aires - Nov 20
Post by: FullMetalGasket on November 22, 2019, 06:36:59 PM +0000
I think you set that yourself in the profile section - been so long now I can't really remember!


Title: Re: UKAC Season 15 F1 1975 Round 1 - Buenos Aires - Nov 20
Post by: Wiltshire Tony on November 22, 2019, 09:16:45 PM +0000
For the forcomming events, if you want to put my flag, nationality is french here.  :)
In your profile go to Driver Details and enter Country.


Title: Re: UKAC Season 15 F1 1975 Round 1 - Buenos Aires - Nov 20
Post by: IbnSolmyr on November 23, 2019, 01:32:53 AM +0000
Thank you guys, it's now done.


Title: Re: UKAC Season 15 F1 1975 Round 1 - Buenos Aires - Nov 20
Post by: goldtop on November 23, 2019, 02:14:03 PM +0000
Cars are as follows - The Ensign isn't in this mod sadly.


Code:
Parnelli VPJ4       = 1:36.643 (I know I've said I liked it's handling, but really didn't expect that!)
BT44                = 1:36.846 (unspeakably fast even on stock setup)
Embassy/Hill GH1    = 1:36.873
Tyrrell 007         = 1:36.978 (fantastic to drive hard)
McLaren MP23        = 1:37.030
Lotus 72E           = 1.37.117 (very rewarding when right, evil when not)
Penske PC1          = 1:37.136 (Not so terrible with a decent setup under it)
Surtees TS16        = 1:37.171
Fittipaldi          = 1:37.173 (Stand out car for me, fantastic to drive - just let down by 'slower' DFV)
Williams FW04       = 1:37.277 (nice to drive)
Shadow DN5          = 1:37.370 (Very tail happy, hard to drive on edge)
BRM P201            = 1:37.382 (will certainly go faster will a better setup)
312T                = 1:37.472 (Not re-driven yet)
Hesketh 308b        = 1:37.499 (I've gone faster since with a better setup, but I'm not helping you lot :P )
Tyrrell P34         = 1:37.505 (Struggles on bumpy/hilly tracks, should go a bit faster)
March 751           = 1:37.562 (actually really quite hard to setup, twitchy to drive)

Cheers, I've modified my list to suit your reply and will send it up the line.

Oh no, look at the Parnelli. I'm going to be the slowest driver in the fastest car  :laugh:


Title: Re: UKAC Season 15 F1 1975 Round 1 - Buenos Aires - Nov 20
Post by: FullMetalGasket on December 09, 2019, 06:50:10 PM +0000
Link to this race's replay:

https://www.dropbox.com/s/g6kxqjv89crfk4y/Srou%20S15%20F1c75%20R1%20Hesketh%20Buenos_aires1979_?dl=0 (https://www.dropbox.com/s/g6kxqjv89crfk4y/Srou%20S15%20F1c75%20R1%20Hesketh%20Buenos_aires1979_?dl=0)

I'll leave it up till just after Christmas unless I need the space....