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Title: UKGTL Season 20 1965 D.A.R.M. - Nürburgring - Jan 29
Post by: Wiltshire Tony on November 26, 2019, 12:05:11 PM +0000
Championship standings HERE (https://www.simracing.org.uk/smf/index.php?action=LM2R&group=671&theme=5)

Grid/server capacity: 20

Track: Nurburgring (Sudschleife) (pm WT for download link)

Cars allowed: GT2.0 Porsche 904/4 GTS (Not 904/6 GTS) Download this (https://www.simracing.org.uk/smf/index.php?topic=3358.msg54518#post_porsche904gts),
                       GT1.6 Lotus Elan

Drivers are reminded that they are limited to six drives per class. Check your status HERE (https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1yku719AsmB92d7Zu3aWkizlW2D3JernVHNGm1ZWJTGI/edit?usp=sharing)

Practice: ~19:20 (60 mins)
Qualifying: 20:20 (20 mins) Drivers must not leave qualifying to change car make.
Race: 20:40 (16 laps)

Time of Day Setting: 14:00
Start: STANDING
Tyre wear: Normal
Fuel consumption: Normal
Pit stops required: No

Server: simracing.org.uk Wednesdays
Password: see above (#post_event_password)

Notes:
(1) It's best if all drivers can make sure they are connected before the Qualifying session as drivers on track during qualifying will not see cars that join after they are on track until they go back to the garage.
(2) Please make sure you are fully aware of the SimRacing.org.uk Rules.
(3) The AI control should be turned off so that you have control of the car at all times, including pitting. Your player file should therefore read
Autopit="0"
Force Autopit Off="1" // Forces autopit always off
No AI Control="1" // AI never has control over car
If you still finding pitting problematic, experience tells us that its less to do with positioning and more to do with approach speed. A slow approach to pit crew chief has proved most reliable.

Special Notes: Cuts will be off for this event.


Title: Re: UKGTL Season 20 1965 D.A.R.M. - Nürburgring - Jan 29
Post by: Geoffers on December 03, 2019, 04:03:15 PM +0000
Just been trying this track & I am getting cut warnings at T1 & the final turn when I have all 4 wheels on the track, so it maybe an idea to have cuts turned off for this race. There is nowhere you can really get any advantages by cutting anyway.


Title: Re: UKGTL Season 20 1965 D.A.R.M. - Nürburgring - Jan 29
Post by: Wiltshire Tony on December 03, 2019, 04:14:31 PM +0000
Just been trying this track & I am getting cut warnings at T1 & the final turn when I have all 4 wheels on the track, so it maybe an idea to have cuts turned off for this race. There is nowhere you can really get any advantages by cutting anyway.
So you read the special notes then  ::)  ;)


Title: Re: UKGTL Season 20 1965 D.A.R.M. - Nürburgring - Jan 29
Post by: Geoffers on December 03, 2019, 04:24:34 PM +0000
Just been trying this track & I am getting cut warnings at T1 & the final turn when I have all 4 wheels on the track, so it maybe an idea to have cuts turned off for this race. There is nowhere you can really get any advantages by cutting anyway.
So you read the special notes then  ::)  ;)

OOPS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!  ::)


Title: Re: UKGTL Season 20 1965 D.A.R.M. - Nürburgring - Jan 29
Post by: EvilClive on January 28, 2020, 01:26:11 PM +0000
Hmmmm.
Just installed track and Porker files into dedicated  D.A.R.M. GTL install and I get CTD every time whether offline or on line??

I have re-downloaded the track zip and over written track file, and also the Porsche 904/6, which shows on the car list. But when I select the chequered flag it all falls over...blank screen and back to desktop with GTL crashed?

All clues gratefully received



Title: Re: UKGTL Season 20 1965 D.A.R.M. - Nürburgring - Jan 29
Post by: Wiltshire Tony on January 28, 2020, 01:41:16 PM +0000
Pretty sure that I know what's causing this. I will be online soon. Hang on.



Title: Re: UKGTL Season 20 1965 D.A.R.M. - Nürburgring - Jan 29
Post by: Wiltshire Tony on January 28, 2020, 01:53:35 PM +0000
Clive, ygm


Title: Re: UKGTL Season 20 1965 D.A.R.M. - Nürburgring - Jan 29
Post by: Erling G-P on January 28, 2020, 03:41:38 PM +0000
Hmmmm.
Just installed track and Porker files into dedicated  D.A.R.M. GTL install and I get CTD every time whether offline or on line??

I have re-downloaded the track zip and over written track file, and also the Porsche 904/6, which shows on the car list. But when I select the chequered flag it all falls over...blank screen and back to desktop with GTL crashed?

All clues gratefully received



You are aware that it's the 904/4 and not the 904/6 we're using ?


Title: Re: UKGTL Season 20 1965 D.A.R.M. - Nürburgring - Jan 29
Post by: Geoffers on January 28, 2020, 03:56:57 PM +0000
Hmmmm.
Just installed track and Porker files into dedicated  D.A.R.M. GTL install and I get CTD every time whether offline or on line??

I have re-downloaded the track zip and over written track file, and also the Porsche 904/6, which shows on the car list. But when I select the chequered flag it all falls over...blank screen and back to desktop with GTL crashed?

All clues gratefully received



Same problem here, although it has worked OK before.

This seems to be the error line in the trace file.

vidman.cpp   1390: CUBE error loading TRK file USERDATA\LOG\tmp.TRK: Error opening MAS file SKIES_NORTH.GTR


Title: Re: UKGTL Season 20 1965 D.A.R.M. - Nürburgring - Jan 29
Post by: EvilClive on January 28, 2020, 04:12:53 PM +0000
Hmmmm.
Just installed track and Porker files into dedicated  D.A.R.M. GTL install and I get CTD every time whether offline or on line??

I have re-downloaded the track zip and over written track file, and also the Porsche 904/6, which shows on the car list. But when I select the chequered flag it all falls over...blank screen and back to desktop with GTL crashed?

All clues gratefully received





You are aware that it's the 904/4 and not the 904/6 we're using ?
Yes thanks Erling, that was a typo. The 904/4 was the car I loaded and selected.


Title: Re: UKGTL Season 20 1965 D.A.R.M. - Nürburgring - Jan 29
Post by: phspok on January 28, 2020, 07:24:34 PM +0000
Mine is working so far with either car, on or off line, though the pork has no skin
but that happens qith other cars other events for me anyway


Title: Re: UKGTL Season 20 1965 D.A.R.M. - Nürburgring - Jan 29
Post by: seniordan on January 28, 2020, 07:57:39 PM +0000
No skin? Back to the garagescreen and then return to the track, sometimes solves the problem Matt  Don't ask me why.


Title: Re: UKGTL Season 20 1965 D.A.R.M. - Nürburgring - Jan 29
Post by: phspok on January 28, 2020, 08:03:17 PM +0000
Thanks Dan, it only happens with add on cars, and back to garage has never fixed it yet
but I will give a go  :)


Title: Re: UKGTL Season 20 1965 D.A.R.M. - Nürburgring - Jan 29
Post by: Wiltshire Tony on January 28, 2020, 08:29:01 PM +0000
Maybe you need to up your graphic settings?


Title: Re: UKGTL Season 20 1965 D.A.R.M. - Nürburgring - Jan 29
Post by: phspok on January 29, 2020, 07:19:07 PM +0000
Doesnt seem to make any difference. SOme cars are black. others look fine
Geoff's healy at Dundrod looks fine, mine is black for e.g


Title: Re: UKGTL Season 20 1965 D.A.R.M. - Nürburgring - Jan 29
Post by: Wiltshire Tony on January 29, 2020, 07:49:13 PM +0000
Doesnt seem to make any difference. SOme cars are black. others look fine
Geoff's healy at Dundrod looks fine, mine is black for e.g
very weird  :blink:


Title: Re: UKGTL Season 20 1965 D.A.R.M. - Nürburgring - Jan 29
Post by: Erling G-P on January 29, 2020, 08:47:21 PM +0000
When joining the grid, I found myself floating somewhere far below the track seemingly.  Hoped it would right itself once the start went but it didn't. Ah well, only wasted 2-3 hours practicing for this..  ::)


Title: Re: UKGTL Season 20 1965 D.A.R.M. - Nürburgring - Jan 29
Post by: EvilClive on January 29, 2020, 09:02:22 PM +0000
Very frustrating Erling, I wondered why you did not appear on the grid.

As for my race, I must learn to curb my enthusiasm in the early laps and focus on keeping things neat and tidy. Made a total mess of the first lap and at the start of the 2nd, over exuberance got my car stuck on a raised kerb with all wheels off the ground  :-\... also frustrating!!!


Title: Re: UKGTL Season 20 1965 D.A.R.M. - Nürburgring - Jan 29
Post by: SpecialKS on January 29, 2020, 09:10:32 PM +0000
Very frustrating for me too: Knew that me and the Porka would need 3 or four laps to find a rhythm
but there were so many offs during that period that I completely lost motivation and concentration.  :(


Title: Re: UKGTL Season 20 1965 D.A.R.M. - Nürburgring - Jan 29
Post by: Wiltshire Tony on January 29, 2020, 10:02:21 PM +0000
Results and replay now posted.


Title: Re: UKGTL Season 20 1965 D.A.R.M. - Nürburgring - Jan 29
Post by: Wiltshire Tony on January 30, 2020, 10:27:49 AM +0000
A tricky track for sure but I had spent many many laps testing various cars for this Championship so felt I had the feel for all the trouble spots. Very sorry for Erling. No-one wants to see all their valuable practice time get wiped out by a software glitch but it happens and there is nothing I can do to prevent it. If it's any consolation he hasn't had his car drive counted in the roster and the two lowest event scores are dropped at seasons end.
After the early drop outs due to various incidents I was left chasing after Roguk in his similar Porsche. Slowly caught up to him and went for a pass which worked only to lose it again when I dropped into first gear at the Betonkehre and span the car around allowing Rog to slip past. Eventually caught and passed him again at the tight right hander before Sharfer Kopf and somehow managed to build up a lead over him. Only five cars left at this point with big gaps between all of us so just had to keep it steady until the finish line.
Grats to Geoffers and Matt and well done all finishers.


Title: Re: UKGTL Season 20 1965 D.A.R.M. - Nürburgring - Jan 29
Post by: phspok on January 30, 2020, 11:18:56 AM +0000
Not the most slick track build we have seen  ::) but ok when you learn it...

Managed a good launch and passed a couple of people. The Locust in front was asleep (Clive?) so went round
the blockage, and so got a bit wobbly (again) but didn't hit anyone this time  8)

Sort of followed Geoff for a couple of laps, but he was pulling away at 2 secs per lap, so concentrated on not
destroying any fences, and keeping Roger and then Tony behind.

Gutted for Erling, sounds like you system loaded the wrong track?

Ah well, I'm away for the next two Weds, I won't be getting in anyone's way....  ;D


Title: Re: UKGTL Season 20 1965 D.A.R.M. - Nürburgring - Jan 29
Post by: Erling G-P on January 30, 2020, 12:03:26 PM +0000

Gutted for Erling, sounds like you system loaded the wrong track?

Maybe, it was difficult to tell, but very weird - had no problems in offline practice, online practice and qual - except for the often seen glitch of the black tyre marks mostly disappearing in the latter (and presumably the race).  Track was difficult because of the low contrast between track & track side, making it hard to see where it was going, so very unpleasant to have the black marks disappear in qual, as I depended heavily on them for guidance.

Grats to Geoffers on what appears to have been another gimme, and to Matt & Tony for their podiums.


Title: Re: UKGTL Season 20 1965 D.A.R.M. - Nürburgring - Jan 29
Post by: Geoffers on January 30, 2020, 12:12:45 PM +0000
Indeed quite a tricky track, the ditches at the side of the first section made it quite hard to see where the edge of the track was. First tried the track over the Christmas break but had not driven it again until yesterday, it was like learning it again. I knew where the track went but had to relearn all the braking points & how fast to take each corner & was still improving all through the race.

Shame Erling had a technical problem & my other nearest challengers in qually, Clive & Dan both went out early. Matt followed close for a couple of laps but then I managed to open a bit of a gap, entertained myself by trying to lap quicker than in qually which I eventually managed, just failing to get into the 2.57s. Although on lap 15 I was 0.3s up on my best at the first split but messed up the last downhill right kink, bouncing off the fence on both sides of the road, luckily keeping the car facing the right way. :o

Congrats to Matt & Tony  :clap: :clap: & well done to Rog & Bob making it to the finish. :clap: :clap:


Title: Re: UKGTL Season 20 1965 D.A.R.M. - Nürburgring - Jan 29
Post by: phspok on January 30, 2020, 12:30:13 PM +0000
Only time I have seen the effect that Erling describes is when you load a replay for a track
that you don't have installed.


Title: Re: UKGTL Season 20 1965 D.A.R.M. - Nürburgring - Jan 29
Post by: Erling G-P on January 30, 2020, 01:08:45 PM +0000
Only time I have seen the effect that Erling describes is when you load a replay for a track
that you don't have installed.

I think that's the only times I've seen it before too.  Doesn't make any sense, when I had just completed qual on the same track.  I tried jumping back & forth between garage & grid a few times, but the problem persisted.  Will try to fire it up when I get home, to see if it still works, or if something has become corrupted.


Title: Re: UKGTL Season 20 1965 D.A.R.M. - Nürburgring - Jan 29
Post by: SpecialKS on January 30, 2020, 06:05:10 PM +0000
Result (https://www.avonrise.co.uk/srou/kurts/_2020/29012020_Suedschleife)

 8)


Title: Re: UKGTL Season 20 1965 D.A.R.M. - Nürburgring - Jan 29
Post by: Wiltshire Tony on January 30, 2020, 10:35:11 PM +0000
Result (https://www.avonrise.co.uk/srou/kurts/_2020/29012020_Suedschleife)

 8)
Thanks Kurt  :thumbup1:


Title: Re: UKGTL Season 20 1965 D.A.R.M. - Nürburgring - Jan 29
Post by: roguk on January 31, 2020, 12:15:01 PM +0000
Re Erling

When joining the grid, I found myself floating somewhere far below the track seemingly.  Hoped it would right itself once the start went but it didn't

Same thing happened to me

2nd race at Portland at start my car was upside down in the woods no where near track had to disconnect.Server let me praccy and qualify but not race, Solution found it was the wrong car.

Grats to Geoffers on win

Grats to Podium


Title: Re: UKGTL Season 20 1965 D.A.R.M. - Nürburgring - Jan 29
Post by: Erling G-P on January 31, 2020, 02:23:46 PM +0000
Re Erling

When joining the grid, I found myself floating somewhere far below the track seemingly.  Hoped it would right itself once the start went but it didn't

Same thing happened to me

2nd race at Portland at start my car was upside down in the woods no where near track had to disconnect.Server let me praccy and qualify but not race, Solution found it was the wrong car.

Grats to Geoffers on win

Grats to Podium

Thanks Roger,

Still doesn't make any sense - I didn't change my car from praccy & qual, so should have worked in the race too.  Checked with a quickrace offline yesterday and all was normal, so don't know what was wrong.  Just hope it doesn't happen again.