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Track: Enna-Pergusa '76-'85 GP

Car restrictions: Four drives maximum per Division. Check your car allowance here (https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1iQ2h1wtcJVy_L6F4j52MSPJ2wG4hMrTMwhIog8tIgs8/edit?usp=sharing)

Points: We are recreating the scoring system that was used in the 1983 ETCC. Overall race result, top 6 scored 9-6-4-3-2-1, In each division, top 10 scored 20-15-12-10-8-6-4-3-2-1.

Practice: ~19:20 BST (60 mins)
Qualifying: 20:20 BST(20 mins) Drivers must not leave qualifying to change car make.
Race: 20:40 BST (30 laps)

Time of Day Setting: 14:00
Start: STANDING
Tyre wear: Normal
Fuel consumption: x2
Pit stops required: YES

Server: simracing.org.uk Wednesday
Password: see above (#post_event_password)

Notes:
(1) It's best if all drivers can make sure they are connected before the Qualifying session as drivers on track during qualifying will not see cars that join after they are on track until they go back to the garage.
(2) Please make sure you are fully aware of the SimRacing.org.uk Rules.
(3) The AI control should be turned off so that you have control of the car at all times, including pitting. Your player file should therefore read
Autopit="0"
Force Autopit Off="1" // Forces autopit always off
No AI Control="1" // AI never has control over car
If you still finding pitting problematic, experience tells us that its less to do with positioning and more to do with approach speed. A slow approach to pit crew chief has proved most reliable.

Special Notes: None

Please note that all times are now in BST and not GMT until further notice.

Metro doesn't seem to be avaibable on the server?

And. I get no engine sounds for the SDI, I did have in the past.
This is a different machine though. Don't remember having to get
any special sound files

Metro is now available. I do get sound on the SDI. Here is a link if you wish to install the sound files for this car again.

http://www.mediafire.com/file/3rgw03s736cgor6/GameData.zip/file

Ok, ta. I will likely be back at my place on Weds, (Self isolating) but I will see if I can everything working here in case
the bobbies put me in the clink  :o

A little something I found: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BQCNmuQVUnY (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BQCNmuQVUnY)

I did some tests on the track and it appears there is no line to define the start of the pitlane speed limit, so make sure you figure out where it is if you haven't ran the track before (I haven't). Also, there doesn't seem to be a pit stall to show you where to stop, just an NPC waving, not sure if that's normal for GTL, it's been so many years since I last played it. And lastly, is it normal that I can't access the pitstop menu before actually making a stop? It makes it more costly to run the cars that can't make the distance without 2 stops.

You have reminded me to practice pit stops. Usually, you need to be at pit lane speed before the pit lane entry lights. A lot of tracks do not have markings for pit boxes, so approach the guy really slowly. You will have to practice this to find out which side of the guy you need to be, unless it's really obvious. GTR2 allowed for pit menu access before the race but I don't think GTL does.

EDIT: Pit lane speed limit is 40MPH. You need to be on the RHS of the pit chief.

I don't think I will be making this race guys. A win 10 update appears to have been the culprit in totally screwing up my PC.

I was not even able to do a Restore or Restart to reboot the OS. After a telephone call to the PC manufacturer and a short discussion, it was quickly decided that a new install of Win 10 was required, but because the update had corrupted files, it needed a full format and a clean start.  :-\

So, today has been spent slowly re-acquiring all of the bits and pieces to rebuild GPL. I will start on GTL this evening but I'm not going to be ready for Enna and frankly my eyes are knackered from staring at a monitor for 8 hours!!

Enjoy the hostilities guys and I hope I will be up and running with GTL for next week....stand by for questions  ;)

Fingers crossed, Clive !

A track which would force me to think about my racing future. Always hated this chicaned (= artificial) stuff - also in reality.
Got a stop & go penalty when crashing out during lap 2 and left for good with about 90 seconds behind the leaders after 2 laps.  :P

Good luck Clive. Let me know if you need any GTL bits  ;)

I have been there and done that Clive.  Just before Win 7 was deemed obsolete sometime during the night the powers that be decided I needed Win 10.  It was all messed up and I had to call my daughter who is the family PC guru and she fixed it up by deleting a bunch  files and locked up the area that takes updates.  Have not had any problems since but I'm sure at some time they will figure out a way to get into it again.  Good luck with yours!!!
Bob M.

As for the race total disaster for me.  I had no practice at all because a bunch of us old veterans volenteered to deliver groceries to the homes for a local store to old folks and such.  Only drove about 5-6 laps before and then I had chosen the wrong Toyota.  Thought it was the one we used in the other races.  Dumb move.  Then I moved off line to let someone lap me and didn't get back in time and skidded into the wall in the straight thru, fast chicane.  Was fun while it lasted.  Always liked this track.  See you all next week unless the bad bug gets me!!!

Bob M.

Results and replay now posted.

First win in the UKGTL for me. It was a nice feeling. :)

We (Me and Hristo) had a good training these days and scouted the cars before deciding witch one to use.

Hristo shocked me at the qualify with that fast 1:47 e provided. I was pushing to beat him and start from the pole but he was so fast. Then i decidet to practise starts, but unfortunately the time was up.

At the start i once again was terible. Didnt used the clutch and the result was bad. At the begining of the first corner i was 6th i think. Then at the begining of sector 2 Dan colided with the tyre bariers and i wasnt enable  to avoid him as the game teleporting him in the right side of my car for witch i am very sorry to him (the hit).

After that i started a battle with Coyote. My car was better at the corners but he had more power on the straight lines so there was no chance to overtake him if he dont make a mistake. There was oportunity to try and make a overtake diving in the corners but i decided not to rush things and risk an incident. Fortunately for me he maded a mistake at the end of the last chicane in sector 1 so i was promoted to P2. Started catching Hristo in P1, making the fastest lap of the race so far and thought i have a chance for the win.

The first stop was bad. I missed the pit stop position so had to go back and front again. Finaly i was out of the pits and few laps later i saw Hristo making second stop. I knew he was geting a stop and go or drive through penalty and that was the moment i started thinking about wining this event.

The second stint was good, i was matching Hristo's pace and had more than 20 second lead. At the second stop the story replayed once again - couldnt find the right spot on the box and once again - reverse, neutral and 1st. :D I knew if i was able to get out of the pits in time i will be 90% winning the race.

The third stint was bad. I dont know if i was a little bit tired, lost focus or i dont know but the lap times was bad - 1 to 2 seonds slower, plus few missed corners, especialy turn 1, locking the brakes.

Congrats to the second and third placed guys and hope to see you guys (all of you) next - at the No Grip Nostalgia Hillclimb.  :P

@Kurt
"thinking about one's racing future"  Don't !  You are like all of us  a  longtime simracer. We don't quit.

But after another disaster race (hands who never had more than one?) it is  always good to remember the basic rule:

It's neither the track nor the car . It's how track and car allow you to do your personal perfect lap in full control, no matter whether this is the fastest or slowest time on the grid.

I tend to forget this myself quite often whereas if I stick to the rule my laptimes and driving fun are so much better !

Cheers, Dan  :thumbup1:         

I had done some practice with the Alfa and Golf, but had a go with the Metro and was much faster in it, thought I might
race with it, but the times other people were getting in the Alfa were 5 secs or better than my Alfa times  :o
so thought, ok lets run with the golf, I liked it, it is an easy and fairly fast drive. Race time, and I had several offs
forgetting that some cars don't do kerbs so well, and can't charge through the chaicanes as fast, so ran wide
avoiding them, picking up a stop and go, then, apparently with all the offs I had bent the steering, so was racing
round to catch up trying too hard so went off some more, then decided to try to get fuel, but as I was getting a stop/go
on ever single lap ( I had at least 5) each time I went to pit it refused, it was now impossible to turn right due to a flat left front
so went round the final time and ranout of fuel on the appoach to the final chicane. Most dissapointing, after all the practice I had done.

Don't worry Dan  ;) - maybe phrased incorrectly - but due to artificial & chicaned tracks and other things like BOP (balance of performance) for example with the VLN series at the Nordschleife I indeed lost my passion for real motorsports - except for oldtimer racing. ;D

CU next week

And I thought Geoffers was quick...  ::)    Had tried the Rover offline, with a pb of 1:54.9.  What I could conceivably do to my driving and/or setup, to gain seven seconds a lap, to match Dimitar & Hristo's times, is well and truly beyond me  :blink:

Better start than Dimitar, getting ahead of him.  Held him up over the early laps, Jaguar power being all that kept me ahead. Contemplated letting him past, when a tiny mistake at the second chicane solved the dilemma. Could have passed him again on the way to the next chicane, had I let the Jag run free, but seemed a bit pointless, so reigned it in.  Hit the tyres at the entry, slowing me down and immediately increasing the gap.

Dimitar soon gone, and no one close behind, so rest of the race lonely and boring, with only distractions being lapping slower cars.  On the lap before my 2nd stop, Hristo caught up to me after an earlier stop. Let him past, as we weren't competing, and I was heading for the pits anyway - didn't fancy being rear ended, if my slowing caught him off guard.  Rest of the race uneventful.

Grats to Dimitar & Hristo.  Commiserations to those who had problems; not least Clive with his Win10 woes.  I have a new Win10 Pro bought on sale recently, but yet to install.  Stories like Clive's definitely doesn't encourage..

Things are slowly being reloaded/rebuilt and sorted at chez moi. Tony has been offering help and advice which is much appreciated....and we both needed something to do to occupy our lockdown time anyway  ::)

GPL is 95% complete, just a couple of the car sets to install ( which require certain tracks to be loaded first ) and all will be done.

GTL is running in "Virgin" form both offline and online, so now I am setting up the 7 dedicated installs for the season's hostilities.

I am sorry Erling, but I really had to chuckle when you mentioned Hristo's and Dimitar's pace. We had many years of Hristo's pace in UKGPL until he got bored with winning every race even in a shopping trolley lol. In those days he was at least my team mate, so that took some of the pain of losing away lol. It looks like Dimitar has the same alien DNA , something to do with genetics in Bulgaria I guess??

Good to see that you are still slogging away out there for SBRC Dan.   :jumpjoy:

See Erling, you wouldn't believe me when I said I didn't have 6 arms & 8 legs!  ;D

Yes absolutely amazing laptimes from the Bulgarian contingent, they were able to take the chicanes much quicker than I could in the BMW. Anyway I have always detested chicanes & this track was festooned with them

My race was fairly lonely too, once I had recovered from hitting two chicanes in the first two laps & overtaken the slower cars. Had both Dimitar & Hristo catch & lap me late in the race & quickly disappear into the distance.

Congrats to both of those & Erling on the podium & to Dom & Tony on their class wins.  :clap: :clap: :clap:

Ah, there's always those with 10 arms & 12 legs...  ;D

Result (https://www.avonrise.co.uk/srou/kurts/_2020/01042020_Enna)

 8)

Without all these incidents it could have been a nice battle for class victory in Division 1  :P

BTW: does there exist a version of the original Enna track (1961 - 1970) (https://database.motorsportmagazine.com/database/circuits/enna-pergusa (https://database.motorsportmagazine.com/database/circuits/enna-pergusa))

 ;D

Hi Clive (Loynes)
                         Good to hear from you. You are dearly missed in the SBRC. Hope you're fine.

Cheers, Dan

Yes there is Kurt, we used it in the 63 World Sports Car Series which we ran at NoGrip about 3 years ago. It is by Der Dumeklemmer, but I cannot find it with a Google search, so I guess it is not hosted anywhere anymore. I still have it on my external HD somewhere, I will try to find it & upload it somewhere for you, or PM me your email address & I will send it to you. Clive will remember it because I think he won the race.

Correction, the Der Dumeklemmer version still has some chicanes but not as severe as the one we used last night, the chicane-less version was by Philrob.

We have the original chicane-less circuit in GPL and I can tell you that it destroys front left tyres. A bit like Grenzlandring, but turning the other way!!  ::)

Thanks guys - found the chicaneless version by Philrob for GTR2 over at esport-racing.
Should work in GTL too. I'll give it a try over the weekend.

Thanks Kurt  :thumbup1:

I had a disappointing race, though 2nd place is still good, considering, and I'm happy that Dimitar managed to get his first victory!

Qualifying wasn't going well at all for me, as I kept hitting traffic on each attempt, but finally found a gap in the dying minutes of the session and managed a personal best by a lot. It was probably down to some additional setup changes I made just before the run. I was actually improving on my 2nd flying lap, with the qualifying session over, but unfortunately the server must have been set to not wait for drivers to finish their flying laps, or someone manually switched sessions. I hope this can be fixed in the future?

At the start I made a good getaway and quickly pulled away from the rest, as they were fighting each other. After building a 7-8 seconds gap, I decided to take it easy, because I noticed the tyres were wearing quicker than I expected, and my plan was to make 2 stops without tyre change. That allowed Dimitar, who in the meantime finally managed to take 2nd place from Erling, to reduce the gap down to around 5 seconds, so then I started pushing more. He was still quicker though, as I was sliding a lot with the tyres past their prime. I had saved some fuel though, and stopped 1 lap later than him, on lap 11. The stop went just fine, but it turns out, for whatever reason, the game automatically turns off the pitlane limiter when you make a stop, so I oversped on the exit and got a 10 secs stop/go penalty... Is this something to do with server settings or is it the game? I don't really remember this from my racing years back.

Anyway, I was surprised to be over 16 seconds in front of Dimitar, so I thought he must have had some troubles, or changed tyres during his stop. I did my stop/go, dropped behind him, but then I couldn't really do much to reduce the gap, which was around 20 seconds in his favour now. The car was sliding more and more because of the tyre wear (and my aggressive setup I guess), so I was planning something else - to make a stop 1-2 laps earlier than him, change tyres (thinking refuelling and tyre change happen simultaneously), and then try to catch him up in the remaining 10 laps. That didn't work out though - my stop took over 43 seconds!

I was surprised to still be around 22 seconds behind him, so I tried my best anyway, but then 5 laps from the end I realized I wasn't going to make it on fuel if I didn't short-shift, so that pretty much ended my challenge.

Congrats to Dimitar and everyone else, I really enjoyed this track! I remember the chicaneless version from GPL, but the chicanes made it challenging with these cars here.

Yes, the pitlane limiter turns off when you restart from the pit, you have to put on again before restart.