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Title: UKGTL Season 20 The Fifties - Turagua - Jul 1
Post by: Wiltshire Tony on December 02, 2019, 03:52:47 PM +0000
Championship Standings here (https://www.simracing.org.uk/smf/index.php?action=LM2R&group=676&theme=5)

Grid/server capacity: 22

Practice: ~19:20 (60 mins)
Qualifying: 20:20 (20 mins)
Race: 20:40 (40 laps)

Track: Turagua Download this (https://www.simracing.org.uk/smf/index.php?topic=3358.msg249198#post_turagua)

Cars allowed

AC Ace Download this (https://www.simracing.org.uk/smf/index.php?topic=3358.msg54520#post_ac_ace)
Aston Martin DBR1 Download this (https://www.simracing.org.uk/smf/index.php?topic=3358.msg54518#post_aston_dbr1)
Austin Healey 100 Download this (https://www.simracing.org.uk/smf/index.php?topic=3358.msg54518#post_healey100s)
Jaguar D-Type (1955) Download this (https://www.simracing.org.uk/smf/index.php?topic=3358.msg54518#post_jag_dtype)
Mercedes 300SL (LM55) Download this (https://www.simracing.org.uk/smf/index.php?topic=3358.msg54518#post_merc_300sl_lm55)


Car restrictions: Two drives maximum per make. Check your car allowance here (https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1pTy722pON5Z73Ra2ErZEMKlsniW1DIwmhYfTvc3gOx8/edit?usp=sharing)

Time of Day Setting: 14:00
Start: STANDING
Tyre wear: Normal
Fuel consumption: Normal
Pit stops: Not required

Server: simracing.org.uk Wednesdays
Password: see above (#post_event_password)

Notes:
(1) It's best if all drivers can make sure they are connected before the Qualifying session as drivers on track during qualifying will not see cars that join after they are on track until they go back to the garage.
(2) Please make sure you are fully aware of the SimRacing.org.uk Rules.
(3) The AI control should be turned off so that you have control of the car at all times, including pitting. Your player file should therefore read
Autopit="0"
Force Autopit Off="1" // Forces autopit always off
No AI Control="1" // AI never has control over car
If you still finding pitting problematic, experience tells us that its less to do with positioning and more to do with approach speed. A slow approach to pit crew chief has proved most reliable.

Special Notes: None.


Title: Re: UKGTL Season 20 The Fifties - Turagua - Jul 1
Post by: Dimitar Dulichki on July 01, 2020, 06:08:29 PM +0100
After making my first three laps here i can say that the Aston Martin DBR1 is a joy. So much controlled sliding and the track is very cool as well and so beautiful with all these trees. Hope it's gonna be nice race tonight. :)


Title: Re: UKGTL Season 20 The Fifties - Turagua - Jul 1
Post by: Erling G-P on July 01, 2020, 08:23:12 PM +0100
Anyone else having problems connecting ?

I get a timeout when trying to get to the server list, with a 'Could not connect to the server' error message'.


Title: Re: UKGTL Season 20 The Fifties - Turagua - Jul 1
Post by: Dominick on July 01, 2020, 08:27:04 PM +0100
Hi guys,

when I started out for testing here I had two really bad lockups of my PC. At this point it's barely functional, with just safe mode without network (I'm typing this on my neighbour's laptop).
I strongly suspect my graphics card is fried as anything I attempt to do which involves the triple screens just remains on black screen forever.
I tried to warn y'all in case the track had anything to do with it (not likely though) but it took me hours to get this far (you guessed it; all my logins and passes are stored in that PC).
Anyway, I hope I was the only with such troubles and I'm afraid I have no idea when I'll be able to rejoin since I can't afford a new range of cards let alone a new PC. Hopefully ebay will turn out to be an alternative.

I'm starting to take the 2020 catastrophes very personal.....  :'( :(

Good luck to y'all and hopefully till soon,

Cheers,
Dom


Title: Re: UKGTL Season 20 The Fifties - Turagua - Jul 1
Post by: Wiltshire Tony on July 01, 2020, 09:58:37 PM +0100
Results and replay now posted.


Title: Re: UKGTL Season 20 The Fifties - Turagua - Jul 1
Post by: Erling G-P on July 01, 2020, 10:06:38 PM +0100
No idea why I couldn't connect  ???

Have changed absolutely nothing on the PC since Monday

Tried repeatedly; restarted GTL, restarted PC.  Internet obviously working - otherwise I wouldn't have been able to post in the forum.  Checked firewall, which was set to allow GTL access. Disabled firewall, and still no go.  Tried other GTL install - same problem.  Checked lobby file, which was unchanged.  Then with qual running out, it suddenly worked again.  No time to set a time, but with the laptimes posted by the front runners, it would have been quite pointless anyway, so not much harm done.

Dom:  If it's just a video card you need, I have an Asus Radeon R9 270, brand new, newer used.  Yours for free if you want it - just cover the shipping costs (I got it for free myself).  You mention tripple monitors though.  It has enough outputs for 3 monitors (DVI, DVI/VGA, HDMI, DisplayPort), but whether it's powerful enough to run 3 monitors I can't say.  Has 2Gb VRAM.


Title: Re: UKGTL Season 20 The Fifties - Turagua - Jul 1
Post by: Wiltshire Tony on July 01, 2020, 10:08:44 PM +0100
Nice gesture Erling. I also have some old graphics card's in a drawer in my shed but I don't think there anywhere good enough for a triple monitor setup.


Title: Re: UKGTL Season 20 The Fifties - Turagua - Jul 1
Post by: Wiltshire Tony on July 01, 2020, 11:09:22 PM +0100
IMPORTANT

The replay shows a number of driver's constantly cutting at Turn 2. This is considered as gaining an unfair advantage.

UKGTL consider a "Minimum of two wheels on the tarmac at all times" as a good rule to have and to adhere to.

The Incident Moderator will take no action as this time, however, any further transgressions will be acted upon and penalties may be given.


WICHTIG

Die Wiederholung zeigt eine Reihe von Fahrern, die in Kurve 2 ständig schneiden. Dies wird als unfairer Vorteil angesehen.

UKGTL betrachtet ein "Minimum von zwei Rädern auf dem Asphalt zu jeder Zeit" als eine gute Regel, die man haben und einhalten muss.

Der Incident Moderator wird keine Maßnahmen ergreifen, da diesmal jedoch weitere Verstöße begangen werden und Strafen verhängt werden können.



VIGTIGT

Replayet viser et antal chauffører, der konstant skærer ved drej 2. Dette betragtes som at få en urimelig fordel.

UKGTL betragter et "Minimum af to hjul på asfalten til enhver tid" som en god regel at have og overholde.

Incident Moderatoren vil ikke gribe ind, da denne gang, men der vil blive truffet yderligere overtrædelser, og der kan blive truffet sanktioner.


VAZHNO

Povtorenieto pokazva reditsa shof’orski neprekŭsnato ryazane na zavoĭ 2. Tova se schita za pridobivane na nespravedlivo predimstvo.

UKGTL schita za „minimum dve kolela na asfalta po vsyako vreme“ kato dobro pravilo da ima i da se pridŭrzha kŭm tyakh.

Moderatorŭt na intsidentite nyama da predprieme nikakvi deĭstviya, tŭĭ kato tozi pŭt obache shte bŭdat predprieti po-natatŭshni pregresheniya i mogat da bŭdat nalozheni nakazaniya.


BELANGRIJK

De herhaling toont een aantal chauffeurs die constant aan het afsnijden zijn in bocht 2. Dit wordt beschouwd als een oneerlijk voordeel.

UKGTL beschouwt een "minimum van twee wielen op het asfalt te allen tijde" als een goede regel om te hebben en na te leven.

De Incident Moderator zal geen actie ondernemen aangezien dit keer echter zal worden gehandeld op verdere overtredingen en er kunnen boetes worden opgelegd.




Title: Re: UKGTL Season 20 The Fifties - Turagua - Jul 1
Post by: Dominick on July 02, 2020, 12:24:32 AM +0100
Well, I got the network going again (yay, internet) and even the sound in safe mode which is normally not possible and requires some precarious Registry tweaking so now I can even watch Youtube vidoes in Safe Mode, lol. Never knew that was even a thing.

BUT, that doesn't solve the primary problem of course which I'm now 99% sure to be the GPU. I mean, what else could it be?

So this:
Dom:  If it's just a video card you need, I have an Asus Radeon R9 270, brand new, newer used.  Yours for free if you want it - just cover the shipping costs (I got it for free myself).  You mention tripple monitors though.  It has enough outputs for 3 monitors (DVI, DVI/VGA, HDMI, DisplayPort), but whether it's powerful enough to run 3 monitors I can't say.  Has 2Gb VRAM.
is like a gift from an angel straight out of the sky.  :notworthy: :thumbup1: :thumbup2:

So here's the plan. This morning I'm off to the PC shop and I'll ask them if they confirm it's the GPU and if that's the case whether an Asus Radeon R9 270 is a potential solution, even if only on single screen. I'd miss triples but I'd settle for single in a heartbeat in the current circumstances. I can always revisit that when/if my jobs recommence after the apocalyptic plague and after all, the monitors are all fine.

You wouldn't happen to be into backyard astronomy, Ehrling? I've got this Tal 2M sitting around I haven't touched in years so a trade would be fine too. It's Siberian and a monster though (45kg or so). Shipping would be a bit of a hassle. Or if you're a bibliophile, there are a lot of options for a trade too. I'll get back to you (on PM) once I know more. But I'm already very thankful for the offer. Can I shine your shoes for the next year or so in any case?


Title: Re: UKGTL Season 20 The Fifties - Turagua - Jul 1
Post by: Dimitar Dulichki on July 02, 2020, 01:14:56 AM +0100
So sorry to hear that Dom, hope everything is going to be back to normal soon.

The track and car combination was so cool here. The car had so much slide and it was hard to keep the tempo for all 40 laps. At the second part of the race the tires were going to play big part in the standings for me.

The quali went OK, as i took off some fuel and become a little bit faster but i think the car had few more tents in it but i just couldn't make that killer lap and take the third position from Clive.

At the start Dan has made a great start and went to P3 and for a while we had great chase and battle with him and Clive. At some point i were in P3 but didn't understand how this happened, as i thought i have blocked Clive or something, so i decided to let him pass. Now as i had saw the replay from my video it turned out that his car just froze for a second. Hopefully no damage to our cars and we continued in P3 and 4. I was pushing to stay with Clive in the next maybe 10 laps but he was maybe 1 tent of the second faster so it was clear that it's gonna be very hard to take the podium here.

After the first 20 laps the car just become slower and slower after every lap. So i started monitoring Geoffers' pace as he was in P5. He was a little bit faster, especially after my tire problems. At some point he made a mistake and the gap went to 8 seconds, and few laps before the end of the race i locked up the brakes and make a mistake by my own. And now the gap was just 2.5 seconds. I gave everything, Geoff was trying very hard as well i thing and everything was going to be decided on the last corner of the last lap. I went a little bit more insight, trying to protect my position from eventual diving, but unfortunately i locked again the brakes and the car went on the grass, which was enough for Geoff to take the P4.

Congrats to Manfred for the great win, to Daz and Clive for the podium and to Geoffers, Dan and Clive again for the great chases and fights.

Race replay: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cv2BPDAisfw


Title: Re: UKGTL Season 20 The Fifties - Turagua - Jul 1
Post by: SpecialKS on July 02, 2020, 08:16:40 AM +0100
Simply wasn't able to make that chicane as I should and nevertheless I was 5 to 6 seconds off the pace  :P

Not really enjoyable.  :-\


Title: Re: UKGTL Season 20 The Fifties - Turagua - Jul 1
Post by: Wiltshire Tony on July 02, 2020, 10:30:29 AM +0100
Took the Jag for this one as in praccy it proved to be the quickest in my hands and also it reserved the better handling cars for later races. Spent ages trying to dial out the unpredictable handling under heavy braking and thought I had it sorted. Later events proved otherwise however.
In the heat of battle I forgot about how the car handled under anything other than soft braking and consequently became a passenger everytime I had to brake hard as the car took over and decided where we were going. Would (should) have quit but I wanted my moneys worth so battled on. Thankfully managed to stay out of everyone's way and thanks to Dan had some very funny laps. The car was definately faster in a straight line but devilish at turns, sometimes behaving, sometimes not. Well done the other Jag guys who managed to hold it all together  :notworthy:


Title: Re: UKGTL Season 20 The Fifties - Turagua - Jul 1
Post by: Erling G-P on July 02, 2020, 10:45:11 AM +0100
Well, I got the network going again (yay, internet) and even the sound in safe mode which is normally not possible and requires some precarious Registry tweaking so now I can even watch Youtube vidoes in Safe Mode, lol. Never knew that was even a thing.

BUT, that doesn't solve the primary problem of course which I'm now 99% sure to be the GPU. I mean, what else could it be?

So this:
Dom:  If it's just a video card you need, I have an Asus Radeon R9 270, brand new, newer used.  Yours for free if you want it - just cover the shipping costs (I got it for free myself).  You mention tripple monitors though.  It has enough outputs for 3 monitors (DVI, DVI/VGA, HDMI, DisplayPort), but whether it's powerful enough to run 3 monitors I can't say.  Has 2Gb VRAM.
is like a gift from an angel straight out of the sky.  :notworthy: :thumbup1: :thumbup2:

So here's the plan. This morning I'm off to the PC shop and I'll ask them if they confirm it's the GPU and if that's the case whether an Asus Radeon R9 270 is a potential solution, even if only on single screen. I'd miss triples but I'd settle for single in a heartbeat in the current circumstances. I can always revisit that when/if my jobs recommence after the apocalyptic plague and after all, the monitors are all fine.

You wouldn't happen to be into backyard astronomy, Ehrling? I've got this Tal 2M sitting around I haven't touched in years so a trade would be fine too. It's Siberian and a monster though (45kg or so). Shipping would be a bit of a hassle. Or if you're a bibliophile, there are a lot of options for a trade too. I'll get back to you (on PM) once I know more. But I'm already very thankful for the offer. Can I shine your shoes for the next year or so in any case?


Astronomy has in fact been a lifelong interest for me, and I've recently taken up astrophotography as a new hobby  :)  However, shipping that 45kg Tal behemoth would surely cost more than a new video card, and it's really not necessary - don't need anything in return; just glad to help if I can.


Title: Re: UKGTL Season 20 The Fifties - Turagua - Jul 1
Post by: Wiltshire Tony on July 02, 2020, 11:21:42 AM +0100
At the second part of the race the tires were going to play big part in the standings for me.
Maybe try using the Vintage tyre option when there is one?


Title: Re: UKGTL Season 20 The Fifties - Turagua - Jul 1
Post by: Geoffers on July 02, 2020, 12:17:33 PM +0100
Quite pleased with my race in the D-type, not the easiest car to drive.

For a few laps it looked like being a lonely race, although with the unpredictable Jag handling that may have been a blessing. The top 5 quickly pulled away & only Erling was quite close behind but gradually dropping away. However after around 10 laps I came across the recovering group of Clive, Dimitar & Dan, got ahead of Dan who then dropped way back & then began a long chase of Dimitar. Initially he pulled away but from half distance I began catching him again & it was hard to resist the temptation to push a bit more & risk an error.
 I did make one error around 3/4 distance when I lost control braking for the hairpin behind the pits & glanced the barriers, I thought my chances of catching Dimitar were gone but a few laps later he made an error & the gap closed again. By the final lap I was less than a second behind & on the approach to the final turn I was right on Dimitar's tail, he went defensive but locked his brakes, skated wide & I nipped through on the inside to nab 4th place. Bad luck Dimitar.

Congrats to Manfred, Daz & Clive  :clap: :clap: :clap:

On the tyres, I tried both types in testing & found the Vintage ones to be quicker. However the Dunlops seemed less inclined to oversteer but more inclined to understeer, (cue eureka moment), how about using Vintage on the front & Dunlops on the rear, best of both worlds. Err, no, the car was virtually undriveable so that idea ended up in the bin & I went with the Vintage tyres. ::)


Title: Re: UKGTL Season 20 The Fifties - Turagua - Jul 1
Post by: Dimitar Dulichki on July 02, 2020, 02:31:32 PM +0100
At the second part of the race the tires were going to play big part in the standings for me.
Maybe try using the Vintage tyre option when there is one?

I thought they were going to be worse here, so switched to the Dunlop.


Title: Re: UKGTL Season 20 The Fifties - Turagua - Jul 1
Post by: seniordan on July 02, 2020, 03:33:43 PM +0100
Chicane cutting

I fully admit I am one of the notorious cutters. Somewhere down the line I apparently forgot this is not the way we race here. Will try to do the zigzags more elegantly in the future keeping at least one and preferably two wheels on the grey stuff.
Thanks for reminding us Tony.
I am afraid my times at our next outing in Osscherleben will be dramatic.

Ps. Thanks for good fun last night. I had hoped Kurt would have joined our little battle but I think he had already quit by then. Of what I saw in front of me or in my mirrors, the Jag must be a pig to drive. Can't imagine the real car handles that bad.

Cheers, Dan


Title: Re: UKGTL Season 20 The Fifties - Turagua - Jul 1
Post by: EvilClive on July 02, 2020, 03:47:13 PM +0100
As per usual I applied pure science and objective determination to select my car for this race. ::)
A quick visit to the server beforehand to check that I had everything installed and working. So, a few laps with the Healey ( only because I had used it at Darley Moor and had a setup ) to discover which way the track turned next.

The Healey felt good over the few laps that I did...maybe too good? and perhaps I should keep it for another race. Then I tried the DB1 for a lap or two but decided that there were too many gear changes required for a 5 speed box...far too much work to do!! That ruled out the Merc as well!!
Hmm what about the Ace ? that might be a bit lumpy for this track, where handling should be important??
Well I cheated. I selected the Ace and loaded the Healey setup......Bingo!!!!! it worked beautifully first time. I think I tweaked the brake % and the rear springs up one click and was getting 1:13's on race fuel. That'll do till race time!! No idea if the tyres will last the whole race but it will be fun finding out.

When I joined the race server I wondered if my careful selection was totally wrong, no one else was driving the Ace and the aliens were posting low 1:12's in their early laps of practice.
The more laps that I did, the more comfortable the car felt and I was beginning to find those extra tenths and match Dimitar's times in the DB1, so the race was on for 2nd spot on the grid. behind Manfred..until Daz casually dropped in a 1:11 lap !!
I was relieved when Erling joined with a second AC Ace late in practice, so maybe my car choice was not quite so crazy.


Manfred and Daz were going to be in a race of their own, unless they made some serious mistakes, so the challenge was going to be for 3rd place.
Dan performed his usual lightening start and jumped from 5th to 3rd before T1, but in the few cold laps I had done I knew that the handling of the Ace was suspect until the tyres warmed up.
3 laps in and Dimitar was threatening from behind with the higher top speed of the DB1 and Dan appeared to be exploring the limits of the handling in his Healey. I felt that it was time I tried to get past Dan  :-\.
I tried to muscle my way around the inside on the final hairpin but the lack of straight line speed in the ace allowed Dan to squeeze back ahead. Then there was chaos at T2-3 as Dan got a little skewed. I managed to find a tighter line, but scrubbed off speed and Dimitar saw his chance to gain 2 places.
We were side by side into 5?  and that is where I also thought that Dimitar had made contact when my car jumped suddenly. Dimitar slowed and allowed me to regain the place and I thought he was a gentleman for that.
Watching the replay I can see that Dimitar was NOT at fault, it was a sudden freeze on my side of the technology  :-\.

From there on I was slowly able to stretch away from Dimi's DB1 which was surprising. But when I watched Dimitar's replay I could see that his tyres were wearing far quicker than mine. He was at 50% rubber around lap 20, and mine were still at around 75% at that point.

Other than lapping cars the rest of the race was quite lonely until Daz was suddenly in sight in the closing laps!!! Maybe just a chance of sneaking 2nd spot??? But Daz had it all under control  ;) and I rolled in a comfortable 3rd.

Grats to Manfred and Daz, too quick for my old bones and thanks to Dan and Dimitar for the racing in the early laps.












Re the cutting of T2. I think I transgressed once or twice especially on Lap 1 when I had to give Dan some room and bounced over the lumpy bits. I don't think I got any "Cut Track" warnings after that and tried to keep 2 wheels on the grey st


Title: Re: UKGTL Season 20 The Fifties - Turagua - Jul 1
Post by: roguk on July 02, 2020, 04:26:06 PM +0100
Hi re Chicane cutting tried that after watching other drivers and i promptly got the CUT TRACK WARNING so not done again.

Grats to Paddler on win

Grats to Podium 


Title: Re: UKGTL Season 20 The Fifties - Turagua - Jul 1
Post by: SpecialKS on July 02, 2020, 06:32:27 PM +0100
Result (https://www.avonrise.co.uk/srou/kurts/_2020/01072020_Turagua)

 8)


Title: Re: UKGTL Season 20 The Fifties - Turagua - Jul 1
Post by: Wiltshire Tony on July 02, 2020, 06:57:25 PM +0100
Hi re Chicane cutting tried that after watching other drivers and i promptly got the CUT TRACK WARNING so not done again. 
Yeah, it seems you could go further of the track and miss the cut detection all together!


Title: Re: UKGTL Season 20 The Fifties - Turagua - Jul 1
Post by: Wiltshire Tony on July 02, 2020, 06:57:56 PM +0100
Result (https://www.avonrise.co.uk/srou/kurts/_2020/01072020_Turagua)

 8)
Thanks Kurt  :thumbup1: