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Track: Charade '09 Download this (http://www.mediafire.com/file/mzjzed4w6s5i651/2009_Charade_v1_0_by_NeelJ.rar/file)

Cars allowed: Renault 5 GT Turbo Download this (http://www.mediafire.com/file/edk2qjcy1fzrwhm/GTC-TC-76.zip/file)


RACE ONE

Practice: ~19:20 (60 mins)
Qualifying: 20:20 (10 mins)
Race: 20:30 (12 laps)

Time of Day Setting: 14:00
Start: STANDING
Tyre wear: 2x
Fuel consumption: Normal

Server: simracing.org.uk Wednesday
Password: see above (#post_event_password)

Notes:
(1) It's best if all drivers can make sure they are connected before the Qualifying session as drivers on track during qualifying will not see cars that join after they are on track until they go back to the garage.
(2) Please make sure you are fully aware of the SimRacing.org.uk Rules.
(3) The AI control should be turned off so that you have control of the car at all times, including pitting. Your player file should therefore read
Autopit="0"
Force Autopit Off="1" // Forces autopit always off
No AI Control="1" // AI never has control over car
If you still finding pitting problematic, experience tells us that its less to do with positioning and more to do with approach speed. A slow approach to pit crew chief has proved most reliable.

Special Notes: None

CAR OWNERS

#14 - WT
#15 - Geoffers
#2 - SpecialKS
#45 - Ziu Bacubacu
#3 - Bob M.
#13 - phspok
#44 - roguk
#11 - Dominick
#25 - Erling G-P
#9 - EvilClive
#27 - F Policardi
#10 - S.Cargo

A track for Erling  :yes:

IMPORTANT

Please use the same Renault 5's as used in the '83 ETCC for this race and all others in this series.

The OP contains the correct download link if you need it again.

Ooooh, I'm intrigued!!   :w00t:

I'm a bit confused: above download is the R5 located in TC65 with a fuel capacity of 96 litre - the one for the ETCC is located in GTC76 with a fuel capacity of 50 litre-
So above download doesn't seem to be correct  ???

Mha ha ha ha ha

Just trying to send you mad Kurt  :devil: :devil: :devil:

Actually I linked to the wrong download, it's now corrected

 :cursing: :death:

BTW: Austin Healey 100 V8 Corvette released over at http://www.evolution-modding.net/ (http://www.evolution-modding.net/)

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Tony, I have my #25 car both as GTC76 & TC65, but fuel capacity appears to be the same - 54 litres.   Maybe I should sell all my Renaults, to get them out of my garage, delete all references to the car and then reinstall including the fix ?  ???

Agree about the track - some proper crazy elevation changes there!  :yes:

Something about this car and this track is giving both my PC and me indigestion.  :-\ So far just offline.

I have d/loaded and installed the track file and the Renault 5 turbo file from the top of this post. The track shows as 09 Charade in "Locations" and the car shows up in GTC-TC-76 folder. I can select a car ( BTW can I have #9 please Tony?) and also the 09 Charade track and hit the chequered flag to get racing.

But, just as the "loading" bar for the track finishes we get CTD every time.

Have you tried the track with a different car Clive &/or tried the Renault on another track. Secondly have you deleted all of the previous Renault 5 files from your install.

I would delete any Renault 5's found in the TC-65 folder.

Good advice from Geoffers and please see my reply to Erling. Both car and track working fine on my PC.

Done

Can you do a trace file? https://www.simracing.org.uk/smf/index.php?topic=13381.msg241379#msg241379

OK.
a) Double checked that there are no other Renault 5 files in my folders.
b) Deleted the recently installed Renault 5 d/load, so now zero Renault 5's in this dedicated GTL
c) Re-download Renault 5 from Race post and install into GTC-TC-76
d) Check that new Renault 5 folder is there and contains various files...looks OK.
e) Fire up GTL and select 09 Charade and opt for Cobra, just to test the circuit file. Track loads fine and I am able to drive Cobra out of pits.
f) Rewind and select #9 Ren 5........track almost loaded and CTD

I have done a trace file as per instructions and here are the last 10 lines

specialfx.cp 3255: Entered SpecialFX::Init()
dynman.cpp    674: Entered DynMan::Init()
slot.cpp      291: Entered Slot::Init()
vehgfx.cpp   2520: Entered VehGraphics::Init(GAMEDATA\TEAMS\TRACKVEHICLES\SAFETYCAR\SAFETYCAR.CAS)
slot.cpp      291: Entered Slot::Init()
pitmod.cpp    194: Entered PitAction::Init
AnimationLoa   24: AnimationLoader::Load(PitCrew.ani)
vehgfx.cpp   2520: Entered VehGraphics::Init(GAMEDATA\TEAMS\GTC-TC-76\RENAULT 5\RENAULT 5 CLUB\..\RENAULT_5.CAS)
vehgfx.cpp   2552: Unable to read C:\USERS\CLIVE\DOCUMENTS\GTR\USERDATA\LOG_DEDICATED\vehgen.scn: Error opening MAS file STEX.GTR
vehgfx.cpp   2607: Could not find instance "SLOT000"

Ok, I can fix that, give me 5mins

Good job you can Tony, baffled me. Trace on mine is like Clives until the line beginning 'vehgfx.cpp   2552:' where it carries on loading the Renault 5 graphics.

Clive ygm

Trace says there's an error opening STEX.GTR, which means it cannot find the file where it expect's it to be. I have sent Clive a zip file download containing the missing file plus some others he will probably not have. Now we wait and see. (this is Clive were dealing with  :scared: )

If I have a super power ( and my good wife would join in the chorus of doubters here!) it is my unique ability to confound computers with absolutely minimal knowledge and almost no keystrokes!!

Maybe I should contact GCHQ and offer my services as a saboteur of foreign hi tech???  :shifty:

This message is coming from my laptop, so I will try Tony's fix on my racing rig later. That will give you time to enjoy an evening meal in relative peace and tranquillity.

Thanks for all the advice and help guys.......I will give it a few days before I destroy any other GTL installs.  ::)

Hello,

I might be around for this race :-)
Could I have #10 please?

Thanks

Done

BTW you may need some additional files if you haven't raced these before. Let me know if the mod doesn't work for you or gives you problems.

My GTL install is a bit messed up at the moment :( so thanks for the warning.
I'll double check everything before calling for help  ;)

Calling for help!
I got the same trace file as Clive, I could solve this one (by editing Renault_5.cas) but I now fail at:
Not able to find which or where the mesh file is supposed to be, I reached the limit of my GTL knowledge  ;D so I'll happily receive your "additional files". Thanks.

I also have a small issue with the cars not displaying in the showroom, neither in the small image where you normally know which car you bought or not... Not a major issue though, and I guess it might be fixed with the additional files.

Edit: I finally managed to edit Renault_5.cas again so that the game doesn't crash anymore (not sure if the driver looks like expected though), but if the files fix the showroom it would be great
Final edit: showroom works OK... once I have bought the car  ;D

I'll send you a pm which will contain stuff to help you

Tony, I've tried to sort the Renault 5 problem (car showing in both TC-65 & GTC-TC-76).  I've tried to sell the car, but couldn't do it - option not active (I can sell other cars) Only place I could find the car in 'Teams', was in the GTC-TC-76 folder.  Removed it, and the car is gone from my garage; both as TC-65 & GTC-TC-76.

You requested earlier that we use the same one as in the 1983 ETCC series.  However, when looking in my download file for that series, it has the Renault in the TC-65 folder, along with the Escort & Rover Metro.

The updated separate Renault 5 download on the other hand has the car in the GTC-TC-76 folder, so which is it - drive the 1983 ETCC with the Renault 5 from the updated Renault 5 download, or drive the Renault 5 Cup with the one from 1983 ETCC ?  ???

You should only have the R5T in the GTC-TC-76 folder. Delete it from the TC-65 folder if it is still there. This applies to both the R5TC and the 83ETCC. I have pm'd you all the files you need.

Thanks Tony,

I deleted all references to it yesterday and installed the updated version, in GTC-TC-76 folder, after writing to you.  It worked online, but I will verify that it's the same as those files you've sent me now.

I will need to install this later. I have 3 GTL installs, one won't see the Bellet, one won't run the FrenchF3 (doesn't matter now)
and that one has lost all on line config, and the one I had to install the Cobra to for Monday is now my only fully working install.
I have run the R5 before, but I had all sort of forgotten issues, and I can't remember which GTL copy it was on,
so will attempt to install on my GTL I used Monday.

If there is not any previous R5 in any dir, can I expect it to "just work" or do I need some extra stuff?

I'll pm you all the links you will need.

Will try to make the race but my internet is not holding very well, has been this way for at least a week.  We are in the middle of a thaw here and a lot of waterways are flooding and ice jammed up.  Cable company says some of their junction boxes are taking water.  Speed test are good right now, see what happens.  Will start in the back in case. If you see me lagging, tell me and I will retire!!!

Bob M.

My rear left was completely worn out at lap4. The car then became undrivable, just like last time.
The tyre wear is just insane. Didn't bother to wait for race 2, no point.

Point taken Matt. I've changed tyre wear to Normal for all future races in this series. I guess it was particularly bad at this circuit because of all the corners.

I think that is true Tony.."the corners caused the tyre wear".
So,      as my skill is most evident on the straights where I rarely make mistakes, perhaps we could have a circuit without corners? lol

Seriously though, I did find the tyre wear a little heavy and I ended Race 1 with about 1 pixel of red showing on all 4 corners. In fact the very last lap became very interesting as the steel rims do not offer a lot of grip  ::).  :wacko: Like Matt I was very surprised that the rear tyres disintegrated almost quicker than the fronts!!?? but at least we all had the same issues.

Having said all that I am not convinced that returning the tyre wear to "normal" will make a great deal of difference, because in qualifying on race fuel ( and obviously pushing quite hard) I managed to use 50% of the available rubber in just over 3 laps!!! OK, so they were banzai laps with nothing held back, but 50% in 3 laps is not going to look good after 12 laps?? Maybe others with more experience can offer a view on this??

Results and replay now posted.

Result_Race 1 (https://www.avonrise.co.uk/srou/kurts/_2020/26022020_09Charade_R1)

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Good decision to change tyre wear to "normal". After lap 7 my laptimes dropped by 15 to 30 seconds.

Tony knows me well by now, as he rightly guessed I would like this track  :)

Tyre wear is extreme; I've never run a car with so much wear before in GTL, but I do find it surprisingly manageable on those worn tyres. Yesterday, I only had real problems with the left rear on the last 3 laps or so in each race - laptimes increasing with a few secs as the race progresses of course.  It finally got me in the final turn of race 2, but fortunately I had enough gap to get going again and keep the win.

Race 1: Race or demolition derby ?  T2 on L1 especially could make you wonder.  Was gaining on Roger in the 2nd half, but too little too late, so had to settle for 3rd.

At least that kept me in the qual for race 2. With Geoffers neutered, pole was up for graps among the mortals and Clive ran away with it.  Massive jump start from him seemed to throw him off a little though, so I could steal the lead when the start actually went.  Puzzled when he kept chasing me over the first laps, instead of going to serve the S/G I was sure he would have been issued.  No way of communicating it unfortunately, and I assume he got DQ'ed when he left  :(  
Wondered when Geoffers would punch through the field and close the gap. Mid race I had a gap of some 5-6 secs, losing 1+ sec each lap, so math wasn't in my favor.  That changed though, when Geoffers left.  Wonder what happened; replay shows his car seemingly dying for no apparent reason, so hope he will shed some light on the reason.  Lonely remainder of the race, trying to strike a balance between going fast enough without screwing up.

Grats to Geoffers on his win, and to Roger & Fulvio on their podiums.  Commiserations to the misfortuned.

Well having worked through to 2nd I just lost the rear going into the top chicane, braked to try to save it & stopped the motor. No restart on these so it was race over. Not sure I would have caught you though, had worked the tyres quite hard getting through to 2nd & was definitely going to have trouble over the last few laps. First race I was able to nurse the tyres a bit after the T2 shenanigans, but still had trouble the last 3 laps keeping the rear in check, had one quick spin on the last lap but was well ahead by then so it wasn't critical.

Congrats to Erling on the win & all the other podium guys.  :clap: :clap: :clap:

After race 1 at Le Mans, I put my brake bias much more to the front, was 56/44, now on 66/34, & it was much better on the rear tyres, but the wear is still pretty horrendous.

Thanks for both results Kurt  :thumbup1:

The incident's at L1, T2 are thankfully rare in UKGTL racing and, I hope, will not be repeated.

Those who played their part know who they are. I will not seek incident moderation at this time as I believe they were an isolated occurrence, and will not happen again.

However if any driver wishes to lodge a complaint they are free to do so.

For my own part, I apologise to Erling for the collision later in the first race that resulted in us both leaving the track. Happy to see that Erling's progress wasn't hampered too much by my clumsy driving.

For the majority of both events there was some great racing going on and I hope fun was had. This is after all why we do this silly thing called simracing  ::)  :thumbup1:

No problem Tony; was annoyed at the time, but mostly over earlier events - and I probably wouldn't have won race 2, if I hadn't qualified, so maybe a good thing I lost a little time..  ;)

I apologize again to rear end you at T2 L1, it wasn't an excess of pressing, but simply a slide of my foot on the brake pedal  :-[
At the time when I saw almost all the field collected I felt very bad and waited for almost all to restart, but later I watched replay and I found that I wasn't the only one at fault  ;D
Anyway I was surprised to be confortable with these cars without any practice before and gain two good results. Unluckily I had the chance to race on Wednesday only cause Coronavirus had stopped my practice choir in Italy for safety reason. We'll see how it goes…cough cough  :nuke:

No problem Fulvio; just a freak incident then.  Hope you and your choir are all ok!  :yes:

Yep, Thx.