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Password: see above (#post_event_password)
(2) Driver lists can be found on the championship standings page (https://www.simracing.org.uk/smf/index.php?action=LM2R;group=761)

(https://i.postimg.cc/FH0ySLz6/charade-GP.jpg) (https://postimages.org/)

Practise: 19:30 (45 mins)
Qual: 20:15 (15 mins)
Race: 20:30  45 mins

Cars allowed:
F1 1975 Cars
Modpack install required:-  (if not already installed)

Download Mod (version 1.2:
http://www.mediafire.com/file/hngms2664ytb92s/20191104_F1C75_Historic_F1_by_Bazza_v1.05_v1.2.7z/file (http://www.mediafire.com/file/hngms2664ytb92s/20191104_F1C75_Historic_F1_by_Bazza_v1.05_v1.2.7z/file)

Track: Charade GP track
(Long config)
https://www.racedepartment.com/downloads/charade-_spc2018.19689/ (https://www.racedepartment.com/downloads/charade-_spc2018.19689/)

(https://i.postimg.cc/tJt1Th2d/charade.jpg) (https://postimages.org/)

Live Timing: stracker.simracing.org.uk:50041/lapstat (http://stracker.simracing.org.uk:50041/lapstat)

Time of Day Setting: 14:00
Weather: Mid-clear
Start: Standing
Tyre wear: Normal
Fuel consumption: Normal
Pit-stops: Not required

Server track settings:
SESSION_START=100
RANDOMNESS=0
LAP_GAIN=0
SESSION_TRANSFER=N/a

Damage: 70%

Password: see above (#post_event_password)

PLP App - Not used in this series. Cutting will be monitored on replay and penalties issued for excessive cutting.

Here is the 'hopeful' driver list for the race:-
(To be confirmed)

1)MJ - Brabham
2)Max Veloce - Mclaren
3)Stefan (Postal) - Brabham
4)Fabri - Ferrari
5)Bob - Fittipaldi
6)FMG - Hesketh
7)Kdiesel - BRM
8)Goldtop - Parnelli
9)SirBarone - Ferrari
10) L4de - Lotus 72
11)ibnsolmyer - Surtees
12)LesN - March
13) VVA - Tyrell P34
14) Cerebral Vortex - Mclaren
15) Olius - Lotus 72
16) Syd Drake - Tyrell

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Hype!   I'm looking forward to this one  :)


Mark, the track link is missing  - https://www.racedepartment.com/downloads/charade-_spc2018.19689/

Translation from a dutch website..:

When: Formula 1 visited Clermont-Ferrand four times: in 1965, 1969, 1970 and 1972.

Special: The eight-kilometer course was almost three times as short as the old Nürburgring, but at least as spectacular and fast. At the end of the fifties the circuit was composed of existing public roads that meandered through the volcanic hills at Clermont-Ferrand. They turned out to be beautiful racing roads that did not give the drivers a moment's rest. One corner followed the other, there were almost no straight sections. In 1969, some drivers even opted for an open helmet, rather than a closed one: they were afraid that they would go over their necks due to motion sickness.

Memorable: The soil in the region around the city of Clermont-Ferrand consists of black volcanic rock. Pieces of razor-sharp material constantly broke off the mountain walls next to the circuit and ended up on the asphalt. During the Grand Prix in 1972 no fewer than ten drivers drove a tire flat on a piece of rock. Among them, eternal bad luck Chris Amon, who missed out on a certain victory for the umpteenth time. But it could be worse. During the same race, a stone raised by the car of Emerson Fittipaldi, the visor of the Austrian Helmut Marko - pierced the current talent scout of Red Bull Racing. Marko lost an eye.

The stone bombing ensured that Formula 1 no longer returned to Clermont-Ferrand. The circuit was also too dangerous in another respect: there was no room for run-off lanes anywhere along the track. The royal class relocated the years after 1972 to Dijon and Le Castellet, specially built racing circuits that were a lot safer. (but a lot more boring)  ;D


Well should be fun... :)

tidied up the end of your history Stefan  ;)

and thanks Max, track link added.  :)

I expect our setups for this track will also work well at the Nurburgring round, so thats handy. I need to learn this circuit as i'm not sure i have ever raced on it, or if i did it was years ago in P&G/GTL days.

I've driven some laps on the 4k in AC,  but 8k not since GPL days maybe 15 years ago.  I remember it as a fun / challenging track though 8)

The 8 km layout is pure adrenaline. I did a race with F1 '67 in Sro. There was an epic battle between Tim and Jukka, absolutely spectacular!

hmm, got to be honest, having just tried it, i'm not a fan of the 8km layout in these cars  :-\  I got motion sickness in the Rift for the first time with all the constant elevation and directional changes  :no: felt quite nauseous after just 15mins.  I also wonder if our smaller grid is going to get way too strung out over a lap  :-\

Will go with the general consensus but my gut feel is edging towards the 4km layout for closer racing. State your preference below, thanks.

8k version, defo!

8 km as the real F1 GP, in my opinion.

I'm okay with either layout, just wanted to see what the general consensus was. I think this track would be great for GT racing, just not as fun in a stiff low F1 car. Maybe i just need more laps to get a flow going as it just feels like endless similar corners so far.
Now wish i had thought of Dijon Prenois as a French GP sub, as i used to really like that track in GTL days.  :P

If it was Charade 8km, let's go for for Charade 8km !  :angel:

*Plus I spent about 1h learning this foolish track so don't tell me now you want 4km  ::) :'( ;D*

Maybe let the VR aside for this one Mark ? I also was almost feeling a bit nauseous, driving on a single flat screen, lol, so I guess it's normal to be a little sick in VR...

I'm going to say 8km

4km is nice but its also very up/down and twisty, so I doubt you'd feel any better on that...

ran some laps tonight in the 330p4 and then 917k just to learn the layout  ;D

can I change car from Mclaren to Porsche please   :taz:

Blimey! Bizar track lay-out. The first part is more like Sebastien Loeb Rally with all the narrow stuff. The middle part makes up for it with some flat out sections. Very curious how a F1 race is gonna turn out here! ;D
Overtaking will be rather challanging.

The mod track is nicely done quality wise so I am happy to race this venue.

i agree Stefan, on my first laps i thought this is more like a hillclimb event mixed with a special rally stage!  :P  I was surprised i got motion sickness with the Rift though considering i blast along in Dirt Rally 2 with VR too.

Bet its fun in some 60's/70's GT cars.

I preferred blatting a Renault 2 Turbo around rally stages yesterday  8) than these so had best get some laps in tonight  :P

Got more laps in last night and finally getting the gist of this track, took a few off road excursions! I must be running almost 4x4 suspension ride heights and spring rates now  :P  Must have been terrifying racing an F1 car around here back in the day!  :o

Good to see a couple of other cars practising last night  :)

Will try and have a proper practice tonight and see if there is any speed in the macca :)

Any setup suggestions?

What's the general rule regarding the 'racing line' here? At least two wheels on the tarmac at all times?

A 2.53,8 lap Max? Jeezz, do you want us to turn up tonight or what?!..


 :P

i hope that was on softs?! i havent run them yet as i do all my practise with my intended race setup on hards.

I got some more laps in last night expecting to improve further but couldnt even get in the same second as my pb  ???  Stupid cut warnings kept constantly ruining my laps otherwise sure i would have beaten it several times  ::)

45mins around here will be tricky without making an error and its generally a big off if it goes wrong  :o I ended up upside down sliding down the road after cart-wheeling through the terrain at one point  :-\

@Les :- yes two wheels on the tarmac at all times. Not sure where you can gain by off roading here, not recommended !

@Syd:- raise your ride height, soften springs, increase front and rear arb's to get you through the twisties. Increase rebound dampers to help with the bumps. Higher downforce front and rear to keep your tyres on the undulating surface (also helps to not be spat off when accelerating out of some of the corners.

Race Day Folks

heck yeah,  big grids are the best grids!  :)


Maybe it was, or maybe it was 2-3 laps into a race run with hard tyres and a LOT of fuel.  You decide   /twiddles sandbag :laugh:

Although right now it looks a good time,  there's a suspicious lack of laps from Fabri and Tim, have they been off at a secret training camp and are about to go full  :alien: :alien: :alien: :alien: :alien: :alien: on us...



You get the free upgrade to brown pants and a matching seat...

I have turn back to home this morning from a long travel for work, so I trained only Friday for few laps. I hope to do some laps in afternoon...

You can easily gain some time by keeping only 2 wheels on the track in the fast section here. In my humble opinion we should just drive in a realistic way : occasionally, by accident, we can have 2 wheels on the grass but it shouldn't be intended, even if it keeps a risky habit.

@ Lesn : By the way, what was feeling my hardware setup proposal at your end ?

IDK, when I mess the line up and take a bit of grass, generally I cant help but lift for fear of dying, and that's not faster!

I've been experimenting a little, but it's hard to tell the difference here  ???

Well what a great combo that is.  


Qually went pretty well and I couldn't have gone much faster, but I knew Tim had more and right at the end he throws down a 2m50  (and I know a 49 was on  8) )...     2nd place ain't so bad though.


Race:   I got a lovely launch off the line, then promptly threw it away forgetting to use the clutch for the next shift  ::) , lucky the initial launch was good and I managed to hold 2nd place to the top of the hill, but Tim was already 2s up the road LOL.  After that I just drove at a steady pace aiming to consolidate 2nd place, knowing it would be hard to catch let alone pass Mr Hunt,  but still made a couple of stupid errors. First at T3 at the top of the hill I look down to see how much time was left in the race and promptly drove straight out onto the grass and up the bank, no damage but 2-3s lost.   Then a few laps later I outbraked myself downhill into the first hairpin (T8 ?) and again took to the grass, luckily I slowed enough I didn't hit the barrier but another few seconds were lost.   Ultimately I was going to finish maybe a dozen seconds back,  but on the next to last lap Tim had some issue and I was suddenly 2 seconds behind, so we had a nice run to the flag. I tried (but not too hard) but it wasn't enough, and 2nd place it was.


Congrats to Tim for the win, and to Fabri on the podium. And of course to everyone else who survived, fun though it is that's a hard combo and so very easy for it to end in tears...




cya next time  ;D

My worst race of this series by far  :( I didn’t enjoy that at all and even from first practise I just didn’t like this combination.

Qually went surprisingly well and bagged 3rd on the grid expecting a good race with Fabri and Max. That lasted as far as the tight right hand hairpin before the hill descent. Vva was all over me and it distracted me just enough to brake too late and I slithered towards the fencing. I didn’t lose much time but as I descended the cold fronts went light and round I went. Sadly Maxime had no way to avoid and collided with my half span car :'(  we both got aero damage, except I didn’t know I did until the car understeered into a concrete wall later in the lap  :(
From then on the car was an under steering pig and bit of a handful. Plus the lead 4 were already now 23 secs ahead. I made 2 or 3 more errors throughout the race including clumping poor Maxime again in a clumsy contact at the hairpin. I waited for him and we recommenced our long on track chase until he ran wide later. I then set off after Stefan for 5th taking big lumps out of his lead and agonisingly for him, he gave it too much loud pedal out of a corner and I was past for a hard earned 5th place just 3 turns before the end! Bad luck team-mate.
Was glad that was over with. Well done to Tim and the podium.

Apart from the opening lap it was a though but enjoyable race. Hard to believe they really raced such cars around here. Crazy stuff!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LvUDnFBE7cQ (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LvUDnFBE7cQ)

Hehe, I can clearly see how my front wing aero was missing.

That was my worst race since the start of the championship, at home track.. :/ When you loose some of your front aero and then suck in the esses/hairpin etc but you still have rear wing span to keep you slow in the fast sections.  :'(  :D

Awesome laptimes from the alien guys, congrats podium and thank you all for racing !

nice little vid, also highlights how bad our cars were with aero damage!  :'(  the track looks great in the vid, maybe I was not enjoying it as my car had such bad understeer from the lap1 damage. :-\ still set 3rd fastest race laptime! :o

Reminded me of just how great the cars sounded from my cockpit when racing, Stefans DFV was sounding amazing down through the mountain twisties, echoing off the rocks, I could hear it over my own and Maximes engines.  8) (running the DFV sound mod that FMG provided a while back).