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Title: UKAC Season 15 F1 1975 - Nürburgring Round 11 - Feb 19
Post by: Mark J on February 13, 2020, 08:27:00 PM +0000
Password: see above (#post_event_password)
(2) Driver lists can be found on the championship standings page (https://www.simracing.org.uk/smf/index.php?action=LM2R;group=761)

(https://i.postimg.cc/L54dHYNN/f1-german-gp-1975-niki-lauda-ferrari-312t.jpg) (https://postimages.org/)

Practise: 19:30 (45 mins)
Qual: 20:15 (15 mins)
Race: 20:30  45 mins

Cars allowed:
F1 1975 Cars
Modpack install required:-  (if not already installed)

Download Mod (version 1.2:
http://www.mediafire.com/file/hngms2664ytb92s/20191104_F1C75_Historic_F1_by_Bazza_v1.05_v1.2.7z/file (http://www.mediafire.com/file/hngms2664ytb92s/20191104_F1C75_Historic_F1_by_Bazza_v1.05_v1.2.7z/file)

Track: 'Nordschleife' (Stock Kunos track) - just the Nords with the GP track greyed out.

(https://i.postimg.cc/7YfBknqf/nordschleife-streckenplan.jpg) (https://postimages.org/)

Live Timing: stracker.simracing.org.uk:50041/lapstat (http://stracker.simracing.org.uk:50041/lapstat)

Time of Day Setting: 14:00
Weather: Mid-clear
Start: Standing
Tyre wear: Normal
Fuel consumption: Normal
Pit-stops: Not required

Server track settings:
SESSION_START=100
RANDOMNESS=0
LAP_GAIN=0
SESSION_TRANSFER=N/a

Damage: 70%

Password: see above (#post_event_password)

PLP App - Not used in this series. Cutting will be monitored on replay and penalties issued for excessive cutting.

Here is the 'hopeful' driver list for the race:-
(To be confirmed)

1)MJ - Brabham
2)Max Veloce - Mclaren
3)Stefan (Postal) - Brabham
4)Fabri - Ferrari
5)Bob - Fittipaldi
6)FMG - Hesketh
7)Kdiesel - BRM
8)Goldtop - Parnelli
9)SirBarone - Ferrari
10) L4de - Lotus 72
11)ibnsolmyer - Surtees
12)LesN - March
13) VVA - Tyrell P34
14) Cerebral Vortex - Mclaren
15) Olius - Lotus 72
16) Syd Drake - Tyrell


Title: Re: UKAC Season 15 F1 1975 - Nürburgring Round 11 - Feb 19
Post by: Stefan aka Postal on February 14, 2020, 07:08:11 AM +0000
Another tough cookie! Me against the track  ;D


Title: Re: UKAC Season 15 F1 1975 - Nürburgring Round 11 - Feb 19
Post by: vva_avv on February 14, 2020, 08:04:02 AM +0000
Please vva = Tyrrell (007), not Tyrrell P34 ;)


Title: Re: UKAC Season 15 F1 1975 - Nürburgring Round 11 - Feb 19
Post by: Mark J on February 14, 2020, 08:36:51 AM +0000
Please vva = Tyrrell (007), not Tyrrell P34 ;)


i pm'd Pete about it, but best to check nearer the event that its been implemented and two 007 are available.  :)


Title: Re: UKAC Season 15 F1 1975 - Nürburgring Round 11 - Feb 19
Post by: picnic on February 14, 2020, 08:39:21 AM +0000
Sorting out the server now


Title: Re: UKAC Season 15 F1 1975 - Nürburgring Round 11 - Feb 19
Post by: FullMetalGasket on February 14, 2020, 09:38:29 AM +0000
Can't wait for this one  ;D


Title: Re: UKAC Season 15 F1 1975 - Nürburgring Round 11 - Feb 19
Post by: Mark J on February 14, 2020, 10:03:46 AM +0000
Can't wait for this one  ;D

Me too  8)  who's going flying?

(https://i.postimg.cc/xjXfg3WN/lauda-ring.jpg)] (http://[url=https://postimages.org/)


Title: Re: UKAC Season 15 F1 1975 - Nürburgring Round 11 - Feb 19
Post by: Stefan aka Postal on February 14, 2020, 12:34:40 PM +0000
That looks like Flying Fabri to me..  ;)

You guys do remember that the 1975 GP at the Nurburgring was won by a Brabham!?..  :P


Title: Re: UKAC Season 15 F1 1975 - Nürburgring Round 11 - Feb 19
Post by: MaxVeloce on February 14, 2020, 06:21:33 PM +0000
Best get practising then eh Stefan  :)



The green hell though, its going to be a fun challenge  8)


Title: Re: UKAC Season 15 F1 1975 - Nürburgring Round 11 - Feb 19
Post by: Syd Drake on February 14, 2020, 06:59:37 PM +0000
Can we turn off the option that gives cut track warnings for practice? It's pointless, you can't get any time by cutting at the ring, but you can get a lap nullified by going slightly wide, and losing 15 minutes of work (warm up and timed lap).


Title: Re: UKAC Season 15 F1 1975 - Nürburgring Round 11 - Feb 19
Post by: Mark J on February 15, 2020, 12:10:14 PM +0000
I agree, I always find it frustrating to have laps scrubbed in practise, especially for a long lap like here or Spa. @ Pete, if you don't mind turning off cut warnings for here? Ta
Flipside is it makes you focus more on a clean lap  ;)


Title: Re: UKAC Season 15 F1 1975 - Nürburgring Round 11 - Feb 19
Post by: picnic on February 15, 2020, 01:23:23 PM +0000
@ Pete, if you don't mind turning off cut warnings for here? Ta
Tis done


Title: Re: UKAC Season 15 F1 1975 - Nürburgring Round 11 - Feb 19
Post by: Syd Drake on February 15, 2020, 02:46:46 PM +0000
Thanks :)


Title: Re: UKAC Season 15 F1 1975 - Nürburgring Round 11 - Feb 19
Post by: IbnSolmyr on February 15, 2020, 10:45:17 PM +0000
Had you guys ever spotted that there is a hot-air gay colors balloon passing above the track after a bit of time ?  :whistling: :punk: :notworthy:


Title: Re: UKAC Season 15 F1 1975 - Nürburgring Round 11 - Feb 19
Post by: FullMetalGasket on February 16, 2020, 11:54:43 AM +0000
This is looking worrying - the power supply to my router died last night :o
Virgin are sending me a new one but it's not expected before the end of the week..

Luckily the supply from my external drive is the same spec and connector - but I think the Hub is what took out the original supply in the first place, lets hope the Chinese adaptor that came with my Seagate can survive until reinforcements arrive!


Title: Re: UKAC Season 15 F1 1975 - Nürburgring Round 11 - Feb 19
Post by: vva_avv on February 16, 2020, 01:41:14 PM +0000
FullMetalGasket my prayers with China :)
Mark, Picnic thx a lot guys!
Tested Tyrrell 007 a bit today. Made about 10 laps total. Don't know Nords good, so only 6.42. Hard compound.
Definitely aero should not be at maximum. But low aero makes it really risky and slower. I keep it at 7/5 now, may be 6/4. Expecting 6.30-s from our "alien" guys or even faster.
Can't decide about suspension stiffness, my springs are about 70 percent now. Softs somehow make her slower or maybe im just noob)


Title: Re: UKAC Season 15 F1 1975 - Nürburgring Round 11 - Feb 19
Post by: Mark J on February 17, 2020, 08:55:43 AM +0000
I'm in the 6:40's too so far after about 10 laps, so similar pace vva. I had 55L of fuel onboard and hards. Typically on my fastest lap i outbraked myself in the penultimate corner and threw the lap away  ::)  I was on 6/4 wing, but still suffering understeer in too many corners, i think its just the hard tyres lack of overall grip. Ideal spring rates is still a mystery, need to test a few options.


Title: Re: UKAC Season 15 F1 1975 - Nürburgring Round 11 - Feb 19
Post by: vva_avv on February 17, 2020, 10:36:43 AM +0000
improved a bit, 6.39 now. Wings 7/5, fuel 45 L. I found playing with different springs gave no results. Kept same settings, but reduced both front/rear ARB - feels better.
Actually driving style gives much more gain, i just was gentle with her  :D except revs  ;D
update: P34 feels just awesome here in tight parts, but lacks speed in fast section  >:(  so, 6.46 only.


Title: Re: UKAC Season 15 F1 1975 - Nürburgring Round 11 - Feb 19
Post by: Mark J on February 17, 2020, 01:12:47 PM +0000
thats all that extra drag (and weight!) from the spare set of wheels  ;)

is there an app (in-game or mod) to tell if your hitting the ground around a lap? I have raised the car but through ffb it feels like it might still be skimming the road surface in some places.


Title: Re: UKAC Season 15 F1 1975 - Nürburgring Round 11 - Feb 19
Post by: MaxVeloce on February 17, 2020, 02:56:01 PM +0000
You can either use Motec or AIM external telemetry programs in combination with the telemetry files the game makes

OR

open the file  \Steam\steamapps\common\assettocorsa\system\cfg\assetto_corsa.ini

and change the line

[AC_APPS]
ENABLE_DEV_APPS=0

to

[AC_APPS]
ENABLE_DEV_APPS=1

now you have live physics / telemetry app in game so you can see heights etc as you drive


Title: Re: UKAC Season 15 F1 1975 - Nürburgring Round 11 - Feb 19
Post by: Mark J on February 17, 2020, 03:07:06 PM +0000
i have Motec, just not used it for a long time as we've been running classics and mod cars and assumed it would be useless with this 70's f1 mod  :-\

I have dev-apps enabled so will look for that ride height telemetery thanks.  :)  Dont think i've looked at any of those apps for well over a year or so.


Title: Re: UKAC Season 15 F1 1975 - Nürburgring Round 11 - Feb 19
Post by: MaxVeloce on February 17, 2020, 03:15:35 PM +0000
I'm sure its useful with anything if you know how to read the data - something I should learn to do.   I just make my setups by the "seat of the pants" method  ;D


Title: Re: UKAC Season 15 F1 1975 - Nürburgring Round 11 - Feb 19
Post by: IbnSolmyr on February 18, 2020, 10:23:25 AM +0000
I'm sure its useful with anything if you know how to read the data - something I should learn to do.   I just make my setups by the "seat of the pants" method  ;D

But isn't that the only true real one ?  :laugh:

Guys let's fu** off all those future computer bullsh*** whose crews are talking about in the pitlane ! Only cheeks can talk.  ;D :angel:


Title: Re: UKAC Season 15 F1 1975 - Nürburgring Round 11 - Feb 19
Post by: Mark J on February 18, 2020, 10:57:57 AM +0000
Yeah i'm all for old school setup, rather than telemetry for older race cars, however we cant feel our butts scraping on the floor due to hardware limitations! so would be handy for the app to tell us  ;)  Maybe i need to stiffen my springs a bit more to cope with the numerous compressions and extensions.

Had to go out last night so no more laps for me yet  :'( i love this track despite its ease to bite back, so could happily spend an evening blatting around it if i had the time. Hope to get on the server this eve.


Title: Re: UKAC Season 15 F1 1975 - Nürburgring Round 11 - Feb 19
Post by: MaxVeloce on February 18, 2020, 11:41:39 AM +0000
I've not done a lap yet, but I'll be on tonight for some  :)


Title: Re: UKAC Season 15 F1 1975 - Nürburgring Round 11 - Feb 19
Post by: Mark J on February 18, 2020, 09:10:19 PM +0000
Bah had a rubbish practise sesh tonight  :( was too tired and kept making silly mistakes, running wide, clumping Armco and compromising my laps.
Improved my pb but got a 6:38/9 in me as I was 2.7 secs up in flutzenbach? Near end of the lap, When I lost connection to the server  :taz:


Title: Re: UKAC Season 15 F1 1975 - Nürburgring Round 11 - Feb 19
Post by: MaxVeloce on February 18, 2020, 10:05:56 PM +0000
Well I'm not racing the Mclaren there,  it's impossible to make a setup that can handle the foxhole and other places because the suspension alignment settings are broken.  Once you get over a certain ride height the front toe alignment goes mental  and theres no adjustment left.  Also has awful bump steer too, massive amoutns of toe change on big bumps.

I just checked a few other cars and they at least have proper suspension adjustment when you change ride height, so it seems I picked a lemon...




Title: Re: UKAC Season 15 F1 1975 - Nürburgring Round 11 - Feb 19
Post by: FullMetalGasket on February 18, 2020, 10:27:19 PM +0000
If Mark can be convinced then maybe take a loaner for tomorrow?
Harald Ertl has rung in sick so if you asked Lord Hesketh nicely he'd probably like a spare driver ;)

I can give you my race setup too if you like, whether you can drive with it is another thing of course  ;D

If you're happy with that Mark I can edit the server files tomorrow after work to ensure Max has an appropriately liveried car for the race  :)


Title: Re: UKAC Season 15 F1 1975 - Nürburgring Round 11 - Feb 19
Post by: Mark J on February 19, 2020, 08:42:08 AM +0000
I'd normally not like the change but know the Mclaren has something wrong with its suspension as could tell as soon as i tested it way back when. Can only imagine its faults exasperated here.
So fine by me :)


Title: Re: UKAC Season 15 F1 1975 - Nürburgring Round 11 - Feb 19
Post by: MaxVeloce on February 19, 2020, 01:22:37 PM +0000
I can give you my race setup too if you like, whether you can drive with it is another thing of course  ;D
That's a very generous offer and I'll take you up on that  :)    In the meantime I'll try to find time to make my own because...


I'd normally not like the change but know the Mclaren has something wrong with its suspension as could tell as soon as i tested it way back when. Can only imagine its faults exasperated here.
So fine by me :)
Quite a disappointment after finding speed last week, but this week I have the same problems as I had at Charade but worse.   Looking at upcoming tracks is it possible to just run the Hesketh for the last few races as I'm sure at least Monza is going to be a nightmare with those bumps on the banking...


Title: Re: UKAC Season 15 F1 1975 - Nürburgring Round 11 - Feb 19
Post by: FullMetalGasket on February 19, 2020, 01:36:51 PM +0000
We aren't doing the banking though are we?
Certainly shouldn't be if we're doing the '75 circuit..


Title: Re: UKAC Season 15 F1 1975 - Nürburgring Round 11 - Feb 19
Post by: MaxVeloce on February 19, 2020, 01:42:24 PM +0000
IDK,  I looked here https://www.simracing.org.uk/smf/index.php?action=LM2R&group=761&theme=4  and it says Monza 10k   ???



if thats wrong I can drive the mclaren again, it works OK on smoother tracks


Title: Re: UKAC Season 15 F1 1975 - Nürburgring Round 11 - Feb 19
Post by: IbnSolmyr on February 19, 2020, 03:08:35 PM +0000
I'd prefer modern Monzo also as bankings always are an occasion to kill the FFB wheel I'm afraid.


Title: Re: UKAC Season 15 F1 1975 - Nürburgring Round 11 - Feb 19
Post by: FullMetalGasket on February 19, 2020, 03:17:10 PM +0000
Monza 66 is the correct layout. No silly chicanes in '75  ;)


Title: Re: UKAC Season 15 F1 1975 - Nürburgring Round 11 - Feb 19
Post by: Mark J on February 19, 2020, 03:19:59 PM +0000
Been a while since i looked but its the old track layout without the banking (think its one of the Monza 66 configs?)


Title: Re: UKAC Season 15 F1 1975 - Nürburgring Round 11 - Feb 19
Post by: Mark J on February 19, 2020, 04:44:57 PM +0000
anyway, i forgot to say....

Race Day Folks

assume Petes on server duty standing by  :angel:


Title: Re: UKAC Season 15 F1 1975 - Nürburgring Round 11 - Feb 19
Post by: FullMetalGasket on February 19, 2020, 05:25:57 PM +0000
Been a while since i looked but its the old track layout without the banking (think its one of the Monza 66 configs?)

Think it's the base version of Monza66 - the 10k was a later addon to it if I remember right.


Title: Re: UKAC Season 15 F1 1975 - Nürburgring Round 11 - Feb 19
Post by: FullMetalGasket on February 19, 2020, 05:35:22 PM +0000
Max: Here are the 2 race setups - fuel-wise they're good to go for 45mins +1 lap.
You might need to adjust them to suit yourself though.
https://www.dropbox.com/s/yv0pte4jvabz34e/ks_nordschleife.rar?dl=0 (https://www.dropbox.com/s/yv0pte4jvabz34e/ks_nordschleife.rar?dl=0)

I've also created another camera file yesterday while waiting for a glazier to turn up - it's pretty good on both monitor and in VR  :)

Drop the file from the RAR into the following directory=
(installation drive):\(your steam directory)\steamapps\common\assettocorsa\content\tracks\ks_nordschleife\nordschleife\data
You should already have cameras, cameras_1 and cameras_2 in there.
https://www.dropbox.com/s/j2yvuoml716u7xy/cameras_3.rar?dl=0 (https://www.dropbox.com/s/j2yvuoml716u7xy/cameras_3.rar?dl=0)



I'll find Max's steam ID and edit the driver list so we have the correct cars for tonight Pete - I won't touch the server.ini unless you're MIA again and I have to stand in ;)


Title: Re: UKAC Season 15 F1 1975 - Nürburgring Round 11 - Feb 19
Post by: MaxVeloce on February 19, 2020, 05:39:29 PM +0000
Thank you sir, I will try those  :thumbup2:

my steam id is   76561197986283013


Title: Re: UKAC Season 15 F1 1975 - Nürburgring Round 11 - Feb 19
Post by: FullMetalGasket on February 19, 2020, 06:33:50 PM +0000

I'll find Max's steam ID and edit the driver list so we have the correct cars for tonight Pete - I won't touch the server.ini unless you're MIA again and I have to stand in ;)

Driver list is now edited, Max and I should always be in the correct cars now  :)


Title: Re: UKAC Season 15 F1 1975 - Nürburgring Round 11 - Feb 19
Post by: picnic on February 19, 2020, 07:12:57 PM +0000
I'll find Max's steam ID and edit the driver list so we have the correct cars for tonight Pete - I won't touch the server.ini unless you're MIA again and I have to stand in ;)
Thanks for sorting the driver list file. Unless I fall asleep in the next 15 mins I'm ready to re-start the server ;)


Title: Re: UKAC Season 15 F1 1975 - Nürburgring Round 11 - Feb 19
Post by: picnic on February 19, 2020, 07:32:33 PM +0000
I've restarted the server, please note I reinstated the 3 wheels out rule so expect stricter cut checking during qualification. BTW you'll only get 1 qual lap if you're lucky!


Title: Re: UKAC Season 15 F1 1975 - Nürburgring Round 11 - Feb 19
Post by: LesN on February 19, 2020, 08:56:53 PM +0000
Sorry guys, I didn't feel like limping all the way round to the pits to repair the car and then lap by myself in an undriveable car here. See you for the next one


Title: Re: UKAC Season 15 F1 1975 - Nürburgring Round 11 - Feb 19
Post by: MaxVeloce on February 19, 2020, 09:44:28 PM +0000
Unlucky Les,  the green hell claims another  :(


Many thanks to Tim and Lord Hesketh,  that car is an absolute joy after the broken Mclaren!

Tim, here's my race setup www.maxveloce.com/stuff/srouk/MV_hesketh_nordschleife.7z
You can try it and I'm pretty sure you'll say what I did after trying yours  :laugh:


Title: Re: UKAC Season 15 F1 1975 - Nürburgring Round 11 - Feb 19
Post by: IbnSolmyr on February 19, 2020, 10:34:12 PM +0000
Just a shot to ask where we are supposed to download next Austrian track plz ?


Title: Re: UKAC Season 15 F1 1975 - Nürburgring Round 11 - Feb 19
Post by: Stefan aka Postal on February 20, 2020, 08:40:25 AM +0000
This is still an amazing place to be lapping in any car really. Maybe just a little bit less suited for sprint racing.

Got no lap time in qually after some grass cutting on the final sector, but not too big of a deal. Had a good start and overtook one of the Tyrell's on the first corner. Then had a bit of a moment entering Hocheichen, so I had a car right on my tail. Unfortunately he kept on pushing when we entered Flugplatz and the little nudge sent me over the hill with no chance of ever rounding the two fast right handers coming up. Little bit unnessecery to be that close on cold tires on such a fast section.. :(

I could continue but with some heavy aero damage. I found Maxime and Fabri somewhere along the race but was unable to attack and they just disappeared on the Dottinger-Hohe.
Hoping for better luck next week. Congrats to team Hesketh and my team mate for their podium finishes.


Title: Re: UKAC Season 15 F1 1975 - Nürburgring Round 11 - Feb 19
Post by: Mark J on February 20, 2020, 08:47:51 AM +0000
Well that was as tough as expected, the Green Hell lived up to its fearsome reputation, so congrats to all that finished, we all deserve a medal just for completing it  :)

Qually went very well with two clean laps and smashing my pb by 6 seconds  :o

I had a good race, albeit lonely for 98% of it, so it was just me v scenery and it bit me twice with the second thump to my front right bending a wishbone or track rod arm so i suffered very bad understeer for the last two laps. I only knew about it when i approached a very fast turn only to find the car had no interest in turning left!  :o and so i careened at high speed along a barrier with luckily just glancing blows. But i had something like a 20 second gap back to 4th so i could soak up the lost seconds. I knew the two hot-shoes in the Heskeths would be untouchable so it was just a case of keeping my foot in to grab 3rd.

Job done on a tough challenging track, podium finish, good points  :euro:


Title: Re: UKAC Season 15 F1 1975 - Nürburgring Round 11 - Feb 19
Post by: Mark J on February 20, 2020, 09:00:06 AM +0000
Just a shot to ask where we are supposed to download next Austrian track plz ?

you can try this one for now if your eager to learn the circuit. (grabbed from f1 classic site)

http://scuseami.net/rweasy/-1BWOE/246619/http://www.mediafire.com/file/ckbd6o2smra2ksc/oesterreichring1979.rar (http://scuseami.net/rweasy/-1BWOE/246619/http://www.mediafire.com/file/ckbd6o2smra2ksc/oesterreichring1979.rar)

but no idea if its newer or older than the one i have on my pc (which we have used twice previously). I was going to put a dropbox link up later.


Title: Re: UKAC Season 15 F1 1975 - Nürburgring Round 11 - Feb 19
Post by: Fabri Fibra on February 20, 2020, 09:44:35 AM +0000
Fab + the Ring + 312T = disaster


Title: Re: UKAC Season 15 F1 1975 - Nürburgring Round 11 - Feb 19
Post by: Mark J on February 20, 2020, 10:12:02 AM +0000
just 7 points behind you now Fab with 3 rounds remaining  :fencing:  those two discos at the street tracks cost me dearly  :'(


Title: Re: UKAC Season 15 F1 1975 - Nürburgring Round 11 - Feb 19
Post by: FullMetalGasket on February 20, 2020, 10:46:26 AM +0000
Well, that's what I get for helping Max out  :P
Throughout all of my practice the dodgiest section has always been Hohe Acht, not sure why as my car is very stable everywhere else. But both qualifying laps were ruined by big 'moments' there and then I had another moment on the first lap of the race.
In qualifying I survived without making contact, in the race I hit the armco.

Car speed seemed ok, but I had some interesting balance issues from there on. I had a few minor moments while continuing to follow Max and then span in one of my favourite parts of the track, this allowed Mark through and I squeezed back in front of vva.
Luckily Mark had a bad run through Flugplatz (and higher wing I think) so I had little trouble re-passing him before Aremburg.

After that I struggled, initially I made a big gain on Max - but I think he made a mistake as we just traded laptimes from then on with me showing about 7 seconds back.
Then my car and another barrier bit me resulting in going back to 12 seconds.
That final stint was very interesting with all the aero damage I'd then accumulated  :D

Well done to Max and Mark, and as said - well done to the finishers. In these cars you race the Ring first, and the competition second!


Title: Re: UKAC Season 15 F1 1975 - Nürburgring Round 11 - Feb 19
Post by: Mark J on February 20, 2020, 12:50:19 PM +0000
Luckily Mark had a bad run through Flugplatz (and higher wing I think) so I had little trouble re-passing him before Aremburg.


yes that was an error on my part as i err'd on the side of caution with the wing settings. I was much faster in qually spec and should have kept those aero settings but wasnt sure how they'd hold up with worn tyres later in the race so i stuck more wing on and slowed my car down  ::) as it turned out, i had more understeer than oversteer so could have easily run the lower wing.

Did think your car had some serious grunt to blast past me so easily  :o  but i was also getting out of the throttle for the jump just before there as it had spat me off in practise when i tried to keep my foot in, so you probably had a lot more momentum.


Title: Re: UKAC Season 15 F1 1975 - Nürburgring Round 11 - Feb 19
Post by: KDiesel on February 20, 2020, 01:30:58 PM +0000
Typical Nords for me = dnf, another BRM make it even more difficult so I link some homework for Oliver... https://www.simracing.org.uk/smf/index.php?topic=3349.0. :)


Title: Re: UKAC Season 15 F1 1975 - Nürburgring Round 11 - Feb 19
Post by: MaxVeloce on February 20, 2020, 02:14:47 PM +0000
Throughout all of my practice the dodgiest section has always been Hohe Acht, not sure why as my car is very stable everywhere else. But both qualifying laps were ruined by big 'moments' there and then I had another moment on the first lap of the race.
Hohe Acht has caught me out many times in the past, especially when going for that magic hotlap!



What to say though,  a very late car change to the Hesketh which I've not driven for more than a handful of laps ever and have no setup for put the pressure on. Lucky I managed to find an hour at the end of the afternoon to try it, so I jumped in and went to last weeks venue of silverstone. Quickly copying the basics of my mclaren setup for suspension and aero, and guessed gears / tyre pressure I went out and did a few laps. After 8 laps I think I was down to a 1m22.0, so matching last weeks race pace with hard tyres and decent amount of fuel..   promising  :)

Off to the Nords then,  copied in my hack setup from silverstone and set off.  It wasn't awful, but the back end was definitely a bit bouncy, so after a couple of laps I went back to the pits and tweaked the spring + damper. Back on track, it felt better,  I did 3 laps in a row with some fuel, and got a quite nice 6m34.7 I think, just off Tims best time on stracker at that point.  Pretty good  ;D  but I had to stop then and go cook dinner...

Pre-race practice:  Tim had kindly shared his setup, so I immediately loaded that up and went out for a lap.  Thank you sir,  but it just highlights how differently we set the car up and drive.  Its almost funny, we have such different style/setup yet end with very similar results  :)   The only thing I learnt from his setup was I had way too much ride height, so I loaded my setup again and lowered it a little, then went out. Eek, it didn't feel quite right now, so I quit the server and headed over to silverstone again just to get the level pit lane and see true camber / toe values...  Ahh,  a little tweak and I think that probably did it, so back to the nords to check.  Yes, that feels better and I have a drive-able balance, but now time was almost out for practice and I didn't have time to really properly correct my off-roader ride height or test changing the brake balance, so I took a break and waited for qually.

Qually:  Having had no time to try a qually run, I just set fuel for 2 laps and threw the softs on and hoped.  The outlap I left the pits instantly and just tried to get a quickish but clean 1st lap run for a banker, and learn how the car felt.  Lap 2, the flyer was going great, then I caught Fabri on I think an outlap at Hohe Acht - he did a great job of seeing me coming and let me past beautifully (thank you!),  but it messed with my concentration and I nearly binned it down the hill into Hedwigshohe, which unsettled me more and I made 2-3 more stupid mistakes before the line.  Result was good though, so  ;D

Race: Got a nice start and just tried to drive a sensible first lap without any mistakes but not too slow as Tim was looking interested in my gearbox  :P.  At the line it was a 1second gap, not much but in the mirror I saw him run a little wide out of the last turn and kick up some dirt, so I gained a bit more. I went a little faster the 2nd lap and at some point Tim disappeared from my mirrors, at the end of the 2nd lap I had a nice 10 second lead, so continued at the same sort of pace.  At the end of lap 3 the gap was suddenly 7.5s  :o, which gave me a wake-up call and I pushed a bit harder, result, at the end of that lap I'd gained 0.1s  8).  I tried to maintain that pace to the end and think I did fairly well, though I did slow a bit on the last lap knowing I had a good lead and that only my own mistake could cost me the win. Its always racing the track and not overdriving here, so to see the chequered flag was a very nice feeling  ;D



Mclaren vs Hesketh  :  No comparison really,  the Mclaren is fundamentally broken - you can't raise ride height enough without going out of range on the toe alignment and ending up with stupid amounts of toe out, and regardless of the height it has some really nasty bump steer, seeing the wheels toe in / out by 10-15 degrees as they go up and down is no good. Happily the Hesketh does none of that silliness and is much nicer to drive,  so that'll teach me not to pick a different car to anyone else without doing any proper testing in future.


Title: Re: UKAC Season 15 F1 1975 - Nürburgring Round 11 - Feb 19
Post by: LesN on February 20, 2020, 05:25:39 PM +0000
How about this for the next series:

https://youtu.be/g8Wl0FEELEQ

Seems more my level...  ;)