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Title: 2020 NoGrip Legacy Historic TC Championship.
Post by: Nappe1 on February 19, 2020, 07:56:29 PM +0000
2020 NoGrip Legacy Historic TC Championship.

Description:
Online racing series of 28 Races (22 Events) consisting short twin races, normal races, Hill Climbs and Endurance races. Race calendar is fictional Historic Racing Championship with events all around the world. Car selection consists cars that raced in 1969-1973 with some non-existing ones replaced with close match. All cars (except Division 3, over 2000cc class) have physics calibrated to run against each other. The Classification system has five divisions and each having 2 classes. The biggest difference from previous Nogrip Legacy TC-70 series is the new Division ½, which includes two new very low powered classes: up to 500cc and 500 - 700cc. These classes truly make the driver the most important factor, as there's so limited amount of power.

All races have just 2 classes running at the same time and both classes score their own points, but there's two very special events in which there is two divisions running, but in that case points are given per Division, not per class. These two are tagged in calendar with SPECIAL keyword. As these events are exceptionally hard, they will also score more points than others. In these, The scoring will be announced later.

Season is basically divided in two halves: first 14 races are before July and the rest are after July. (July is kept as summer break so to speak.)

Races will be held on mondays (race calendar below) with one exception race being in Saturday. Race start time is usually around 20:00 GMT/BST. Exact race time and qualifying session start time will be stated in each race invitation.

Server info:
- Server Name: NoGrip Legacy HTC Server
- Password: tc4ever

Cars, their Divisions and classes:
Division ½, Under 500cc
- Giannini 500TV Montecarlo (by Speester63 & Protobuilders.)
- Suzuki Fronte Coupe gr2 (by Shotaro & Nappe1)

Division ½, 500 - 700cc
- Giannini 650NP Modena (by Speester63 & Protobuilders & BLT)
- Abarth 695SS Competizione (by Speester63 & Protobuilders & BLT)


Division 1, 700 - 850cc
- 1970 Mini 850 (by Protobuilders)
- 1970 Abarth 850TC (by Protobuilders)
- Suzuki Lc10w TC76 (by Shotaro & Nappe1)

Division 1, 850 - 999cc
- 1969 Mini Cooper 970 S (by Protobuilders)
- 1970 Abarth 1000TCR GR2 (by TeamZZZ & BLT)
- 1970 - 1973 Sunbeam / Hillman Imp (by Tincorna & friends)
  (Allowed skins for Sunbeam: #1 (both), #6, #79)
  (Allowed skins for Hillman: #131, #171)
Note:Car #171 is listed in Windows Explorer as #172 but in-game it's #171
- 1970 Ford Escort 1.0 BD (by BLT)

Division 2, 1000 - 1299cc
- 1970 Mini 1275GT gr2 (by BLT)
- 1970 Ford Escort 1300GT (by BLT)
- 1970 Alfa-Romeo GTA Jnr GR2 (by BLT)

Division 2, 1300 - 1599cc
- 1970 Isuzu Bellett GTR (by Protobuilders & BLT & Friends)
- 1970 Ford Escort TC (by BLT)

Division 3, 1600 - 1999cc
- 1970 Alfa-Romeo GTAm GR2 (by BLT)
- 1970 Ford Escort BDB (by Protobuilders)

Division 3, over 2000cc
- 1970 BMW 2800CS (by Scyrion, Greg7 and Friends)
- 1970 FORD CAPRI 2300GT (by Simbin & Nappe1)

The Event Calendar:

N#Daterace / trackDIVISIONSNOTE
0116.03.2020ImolaDIVISION ½Short Race
02ImolaDIVISION 1Short Race
0330.03.2020Ahvenisto 1DIVISION 1Short Race
04Ahvenisto 2DIVISION ½Short Race
0506.04.2020Puech Arnal Hillclimb 1 DIVISION 1Hillclimb
0613.04.2020Hockenheim GPDIVISION 3Normal Race
0720.04.2020Gold Coast 1DIVISION 1Short Race
08Gold Coast 2DIVISION 2Short Race
0927.04.2020BathurstDIVISION 1Normal Race
1011.05.2020Cadwell ParkDIVISION 1Normal Race
1118.05.2020Donnington Park 1DIVISION 2Short Race
12Donnington Park 2DIVISION 3Short Race
1308.06.2020Iriski Venac HillclimbDIVISION 2Hillclimb
1422.06.2020SpaDIVISION 2Normal race
1510.08.2020Zolder 1DIVISION 1Short Race
16Zolder 2DIVISION ½Short Race
1722.08.2020Nürburgring 500kms (saturday!)DIVISION 2,3500kms Endurance SPECIAL
1831.08.2020TI AidaDIVISION 2Normal Race
1907.09.2020Tsukuba CircuitDIVISION ½Normal Race
2021.09.2020Barber Park 2 hours for microcarsDIVISION ½2 Hours Endurance Race
2128.09.2020Daytona Road CourseDIVISION 3Normal race
2212.10.2020St.Ursanne HillclimbDIVISION 3Hillclimb
2319.10.2020La Ronde Cevenole 2 hour session sprintDIVISION 1Endurance Race
2426.10.2020St. Roch HillclimbDIVISION ½Hillclimb
2509.11.2020Monza GPDIVISION 2Short Race
26Monza GPDIVISION 3Short Race
2716.11.2020Puech Arnal Hillclimb 2DIVISION ½Hillclimb
2823.11.2020Jarama 1DIVISION 2Short Race
29Jarama 2DIVISION 3Short Race

Car Rules:
  • No limit on how many times you can use each car.
  • Every start in new class scores 3 extra points, so 24 points available by just driving cars in every class!


Points system:
  • Starting in class that driver has not yet started: 3 points. (as stated above.)
  • Fastest guy in DIVISION: 1 point.
  • Points per CLASS by position:
    • 1st:   9 points
    • 2nd:   8 points
    • 3rd:   7 points
    • 4th:   5 points
    • 5th:   4 points
    • 6th:   3 points
    • 7th:   2 points
    • 8th:   1 point
  • Note that position points are given by CLASS position. So at least 2 drivers will score 9 points as there's 2 classes per Division.


Five different champions:
  • Division ½ champion
  • Division 1 champion
  • Division 2 champion
  • Division 3 champion
  • Overall Champion


Special Notes:
  • Each race invitation will have notes about allowed classes and also how it is going to be scored. There is only two SPECIAL tagged events, in which case points will be upgraded as the events are exceptionally hard.
  • The time based races are really time based as I found way to organize real time based races. This means that when the race starts, clock starts counting down and when the time is up, race will be checkered flagged. :) (Thanks Geoffers helping to find this loophole in GT Legends. :) )
  • Just like in the 2019, The Nurburgring will really be 500kms race. Race will take around 3 and half hours, so preparation highly recommended. Also use of second driver is allowed, but only one of the drivers will score points.
  • I will try to organize few test races before season start. Those will be announced as usual with Race Invitations in this thread.

Downloads:
  • Car pack: *CLICK* (https://drive.google.com/open?id=1VPM-8nq3smWuGdfLkD61ngRE8HgIrfP-)
  • Car pack update ver 2, 15th of September, 2020: *CLICK* (https://drive.google.com/open?id=1uztAzTv85_vKW4CjnB3LPneXKjdgzzah)







Points table:
  • Link: *CLICK* (https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1KRMIzgd0-YHSKJeEKCcqgy3aQgQeibKiA3eBs3mighQ/edit?usp=sharing)

EDIT: added car pack update link.
EDIT2: changed car pack update link to version 2.


Title: Re: 2020 NoGrip Legacy Historic TC Championship.
Post by: SpecialKS on February 20, 2020, 08:17:47 PM +0000
 :thumbup1: :clap:

Can't await to drive the new cars!


Title: Re: 2020 NoGrip Legacy Historic TC Championship.
Post by: Nappe1 on February 28, 2020, 09:16:58 AM +0000
Notice the changed event order and date for the Ronde Cevenole Sprint Special.
Due having my first work trip in 14 years, I had to reschedule it to 6th of April.


Title: Re: 2020 NoGrip Legacy Historic TC Championship.
Post by: Nappe1 on March 07, 2020, 09:47:40 AM +0000
Car pack has been released. :) You can find the downloadlink from main post.


Title: Re: 2020 NoGrip Legacy Historic TC Championship.
Post by: Geoffers on March 07, 2020, 03:01:54 PM +0000
Downloaded cars & all ready to go. Will there be a test event this Monday (9th Mar)? If so may I suggest Mondello as a good track for the new upto 700cc cars.


Title: Re: 2020 NoGrip Legacy Historic TC Championship.
Post by: Nappe1 on March 08, 2020, 11:47:18 AM +0000
Downloaded cars & all ready to go. Will there be a test event this Monday (9th Mar)? If so may I suggest Mondello as a good track for the new upto 700cc cars.
You got it spot on. We will race tomorrow evening in Mondello Park two races. One per new division. :)

Now that I have returned home, I will post complete test race invitation soon.


Title: Re: 2020 NoGrip Legacy Historic TC Championship.
Post by: Wiltshire Tony on March 08, 2020, 12:49:37 PM +0000
Don't forget to specify which variant of Mondello Park you are planning to use.


Title: Re: 2020 NoGrip Legacy Historic TC Championship.
Post by: Nappe1 on March 08, 2020, 04:08:14 PM +0000
NoGrip Legacy HTC Championship 2020
Mondello Park test race event
9th of March, 2020

Race invitation and discussion thread here:
https://www.simracing.org.uk/smf/index.php?topic=18822.0


Title: Re: 2020 NoGrip Legacy Historic TC Championship.
Post by: Nappe1 on March 12, 2020, 08:13:57 PM +0000
NoGrip Legacy HTC Championship 2020
Imola twin race event
16th of March, 2020

The Season Starter: two races in Original Imola GP

Race invitation and discussion thread here:
https://www.simracing.org.uk/smf/index.php?topic=18862.0


Title: Re: 2020 NoGrip Legacy Historic TC Championship.
Post by: Nappe1 on March 25, 2020, 09:25:52 AM +0000
Points table link added to the end of the first post.


Includes now points after first event.


Title: Re: 2020 NoGrip Legacy Historic TC Championship.
Post by: Wiltshire Tony on March 25, 2020, 09:38:58 AM +0000
I'm probably being super stupid, but what do the colours mean in the results?


Title: Re: 2020 NoGrip Legacy Historic TC Championship.
Post by: Nappe1 on March 25, 2020, 11:46:13 AM +0000
I'm probably being super stupid, but what do the colours mean in the results?

I did some cleaning up and added color explanations under the overall points. Hopefully it is easier to read now. :)


Title: Re: 2020 NoGrip Legacy Historic TC Championship.
Post by: Wiltshire Tony on March 25, 2020, 12:47:08 PM +0000
Got it  :thumbup1:


Title: Re: 2020 NoGrip Legacy Historic TC Championship.
Post by: Nappe1 on March 25, 2020, 05:54:35 PM +0000
NoGrip Legacy HTC Championship 2020
Ahvenisto twin race event
30th of March, 2020

Race invitation and discussing thread here:
https://www.simracing.org.uk/smf/index.php?topic=18982.0


Title: Re: 2020 NoGrip Legacy Historic TC Championship.
Post by: Nappe1 on April 01, 2020, 05:39:36 PM +0100
As the current world situation has changed a bit my schedule, I had to re-arrange next week's race. Instead of very tedious Ronde Cevenole, we are heading to Puech Arnal Hillclimb with division 1 cars.
Invitation thread will follow.


Title: Re: 2020 NoGrip Legacy Historic TC Championship.
Post by: Nappe1 on April 01, 2020, 05:46:44 PM +0100
NoGrip Legacy HTC Championship 2020
Puech Arnal Hillclimb
6th of April, 2020

Race invitation and discussing thread here:
https://www.simracing.org.uk/smf/index.php?topic=19112.0


Title: Re: 2020 NoGrip Legacy Historic TC Championship.
Post by: Nappe1 on April 07, 2020, 01:18:15 PM +0100
NoGrip Legacy HTC Championship 2020
Hockenheim GP race event
13th of April, 2020

Race invitation and discussing thread here:
https://www.simracing.org.uk/smf/index.php?topic=19182.0


Title: Re: 2020 NoGrip Legacy Historic TC Championship.
Post by: Wiltshire Tony on April 16, 2020, 12:09:31 PM +0100
I have a question. In my download I have three types of Suzuki. I do not see where we use the Suzuki Lc10w. It is not listed in any class. Is it not required?


Title: Re: 2020 NoGrip Legacy Historic TC Championship.
Post by: Dominick on April 16, 2020, 01:15:04 PM +0100
I also have a question. I can't seem to find an up-to-date points table. The link in the first post only includes Imola on my side. Might be a caching issue or am I a simpleton who looks in the wrong place?


Title: Re: 2020 NoGrip Legacy Historic TC Championship.
Post by: phspok on April 16, 2020, 04:28:39 PM +0100
I used the Lc10w I think in Sweden


Division 1, 700 - 850cc
- 1970 Mini 850 (by Protobuilders)
- 1970 Abarth 850TC (by Protobuilders)
- Suzuki Lc10w TC76 (by Shotaro & Nappe1)


Title: Re: 2020 NoGrip Legacy Historic TC Championship.
Post by: Wiltshire Tony on April 16, 2020, 05:13:39 PM +0100
I used the Lc10w I think in Sweden


Division 1, 700 - 850cc
- 1970 Mini 850 (by Protobuilders)
- 1970 Abarth 850TC (by Protobuilders)
- Suzuki Lc10w TC76 (by Shotaro & Nappe1)

That's the TC76 one tho


Title: Re: 2020 NoGrip Legacy Historic TC Championship.
Post by: Nappe1 on April 20, 2020, 01:51:30 PM +0100
Points Table updated. :)
Sorry about the delay due the stress the pandemic is causing for me. :/

I also will suspend the Endurance races to normal races for now as I do not have needed energy to create time based race -track variations. Sorry about that as well.



Title: Re: 2020 NoGrip Legacy Historic TC Championship.
Post by: Hristo Itchov on April 20, 2020, 01:59:13 PM +0100
Points Table updated. :)
Sorry about the delay due the stress the pandemic is causing for me. :/

I also will suspend the Endurance races to normal races for now as I do not have needed energy to create time based race -track variations. Sorry about that as well.



Thanks, Nappe. I noticed you gave equal class points from the hillclimb event towards the overall standings. Isn't it wrong though, to have 2 winners, 2 second places, 2 third places, etc.? Shouldn't class standings be separate from the overall points table?


Title: Re: 2020 NoGrip Legacy Historic TC Championship.
Post by: SpecialKS on April 20, 2020, 02:58:37 PM +0100
Points Table updated. :)
Sorry about the delay due the stress the pandemic is causing for me. :/

I also will suspend the Endurance races to normal races for now as I do not have needed energy to create time based race -track variations. Sorry about that as well.

Don't worry Nappe. Situation is more than unpleasant at the moment and I fear it will be for a longer period than expected.

For me personally all this is additionally related to a decline of health as all gyms are still closed and I'm not able to practice
for my ailing back and hips fighting against the threatened surgery(-ies) as I don't have appropriate equipment at home  :P :-[


Title: Re: 2020 NoGrip Legacy Historic TC Championship.
Post by: Dominick on April 20, 2020, 04:16:31 PM +0100
Points Table updated. :)
Thank you, Nappe.

Sorry about the delay due the stress the pandemic is causing for me. :/
No worries, bro. There's no need to apologize. You're not alone. It's a crazy period for everybody.  :-\
I'm on medical welfare and both jobs I had to increase my income (local library and county archives) to at least a humane level are suspended indefinitely  >:( :-X
Plenty of stress here too....


Title: Re: 2020 NoGrip Legacy Historic TC Championship.
Post by: nocatu on April 20, 2020, 04:42:15 PM +0100
No worries Nappe, real life comes first.


Title: Re: 2020 NoGrip Legacy Historic TC Championship.
Post by: Nappe1 on April 20, 2020, 05:45:09 PM +0100
Thanks guys for the nice words.
At least for now this community and these races are happy moments of the week. Mornings are hard (though it does vary a bit) and usually things brighten up further the day goes. And I don't know even why this is happening, I and my wife are very safe in our home, I am working from home (6th week starting now) and we live in the outskirts of the small suburb in the end of dead end street. And our city has about 9 recognized cases from population of 52 thousand. So, risk of getting one is minimal.

Maybe I am more "world citizen" than I ever imagined and I am feeling some pain of the world in my subconscious... Who knows. The whole human kind knows so little about the mind and how it works.


EDIT:
Points Table updated. :)
Thanks, Nappe. I noticed you gave equal class points from the hillclimb event towards the overall standings. Isn't it wrong though, to have 2 winners, 2 second places, 2 third places, etc.? Shouldn't class standings be separate from the overall points table?

The hill climbs are scored just like all the other events: both classes score individual points. The winner of overall race scores extra point. This balances pretty nicely the scoreboard as people choose the class which to participate more equal. The system is different than other online championships, but it has some (weak though) real world basis in 1960's and 1970's ETCC points system.

Same points system was used in previous championship last year and here's the scoreboard for that one for comparison: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/10-WEhm3dsge2dfnIcKYS37Cwdy7b9tvUXdhLuwub0TQ/edit?usp=sharing


Title: Re: 2020 NoGrip Legacy Historic TC Championship.
Post by: Nappe1 on April 20, 2020, 09:20:46 PM +0100
NoGrip Legacy HTC Championship 2020
Bathurst  normal race event
27th of April, 2020


Race invitation and discussing thread here:
https://www.simracing.org.uk/smf/index.php?topic=19491.0


Title: Re: 2020 NoGrip Legacy Historic TC Championship.
Post by: Hristo Itchov on April 20, 2020, 10:24:02 PM +0100
Thanks, Nappe, but I'm not sure I understand how the extra points column works. I see "1" against my name and "3" for everyone else.


Title: Re: 2020 NoGrip Legacy Historic TC Championship.
Post by: nocatu on April 20, 2020, 11:13:52 PM +0100
You have a 1 next to your name as you were the overall winner, if you had raced in a class for the first time and won this would have been a 4, everytime we race in a class we get 3 extra points, for example I used the Abarth TCR about 3-4 times now, I only got the extra 3 points the first time I used it. In the race we did today I used the Escort TC for the first time so I am going to get 3 extra points (and nothing else as I retired ;D). So next time I race in the class where the Bellett and Escort TC belong to, I'm not going to get any extra points. Hopefully this makes some sense and it's clearer how those extra points are awarded :)


Title: Re: 2020 NoGrip Legacy Historic TC Championship.
Post by: Wiltshire Tony on April 21, 2020, 10:30:34 AM +0100
everytime we race in a class, for the first time, we get 3 extra points
Addendum


Title: Re: 2020 NoGrip Legacy Historic TC Championship.
Post by: Nappe1 on April 22, 2020, 07:33:54 AM +0100
Points table updated after Gold Coast races.


Title: Re: 2020 NoGrip Legacy Historic TC Championship.
Post by: Hristo Itchov on April 22, 2020, 01:19:49 PM +0100
You have a 1 next to your name as you were the overall winner, if you had raced in a class for the first time and won this would have been a 4, everytime we race in a class we get 3 extra points, for example I used the Abarth TCR about 3-4 times now, I only got the extra 3 points the first time I used it. In the race we did today I used the Escort TC for the first time so I am going to get 3 extra points (and nothing else as I retired ;D). So next time I race in the class where the Bellett and Escort TC belong to, I'm not going to get any extra points. Hopefully this makes some sense and it's clearer how those extra points are awarded :)


Thanks, I get it now!  ;D


Title: Re: 2020 NoGrip Legacy Historic TC Championship.
Post by: Dominick on April 22, 2020, 05:25:37 PM +0100
Points table updated after Gold Coast races.

Thanks  :thumbup1:
I'll be damned, I was a 'class winner' yesterday. I had no idea, lol.


Title: Re: 2020 NoGrip Legacy Historic TC Championship.
Post by: Nappe1 on April 29, 2020, 02:18:44 PM +0100
Points updated after Bathurst.
W. Tony was missing extra 3 points from Gold Coast 1, so now that's corrected as well.


Title: Re: 2020 NoGrip Legacy Historic TC Championship.
Post by: Wiltshire Tony on April 29, 2020, 02:29:21 PM +0100
Points updated after Bathurst.
W. Tony was missing extra 3 points from Gold Coast 1, so now that's corrected as well.
WooHoo  :w00t:


Title: Re: 2020 NoGrip Legacy Historic TC Championship.
Post by: Nappe1 on May 06, 2020, 09:07:29 AM +0100
NoGrip Legacy HTC Championship 2020
Cadwell Park  normal race event
11th of May, 2020


Race invitation and discussing thread here:
https://www.simracing.org.uk/smf/index.php?topic=19772.0


Title: Re: 2020 NoGrip Legacy Historic TC Championship.
Post by: Nappe1 on May 14, 2020, 02:48:41 PM +0100
NoGrip Legacy HTC Championship 2020
Donnington National twin race event
18th of May, 2020


Race invitation and discussing thread here:
https://www.simracing.org.uk/smf/index.php?topic=19961.0


Title: Re: 2020 NoGrip Legacy Historic TC Championship.
Post by: Nappe1 on May 14, 2020, 03:12:56 PM +0100
Points updated after Cadwell Park.


Title: Re: 2020 NoGrip Legacy Historic TC Championship.
Post by: Nappe1 on May 24, 2020, 10:19:55 AM +0100
Points updated after Donington event.


Title: Re: 2020 NoGrip Legacy Historic TC Championship.
Post by: Nappe1 on June 04, 2020, 03:57:21 PM +0100
NoGrip Legacy HTC Championship 2020
Iriski Venac Hillclimb
8th of June, 2020


Race invitation and discussing thread here:
https://www.simracing.org.uk/smf/index.php?topic=20291.0



Title: Re: 2020 NoGrip Legacy Historic TC Championship.
Post by: Nappe1 on June 14, 2020, 08:13:47 PM +0100
As my condition has been returning to normal state, I updated the race calendar with few changes.
1.) There will be 3 endurance races, one being the 500kms of Nurburgring. :) Check the first post (Race calendar) for the details. All of them will have different scoring than usual and Nurburgring will have different classes as well. Each race invitation will give the details before the race.
2.) Next week Spa was originally planned to be 2 hour endurance and due design flaw, it was planned to be Division 2 race. However, Division 3 calendar is full already, so we will run in Istanbul Park with Division 2 cars and race length will be "normal race" -style.

I am also hoping to make car pack update for the second half of the season with some small changes to some cars.

EDIT: After doing some tests, I found that nowadays layouts of Spa are just fine for the normal race. Race Invitation will follow soon. :)


Title: Re: 2020 NoGrip Legacy Historic TC Championship.
Post by: Wiltshire Tony on June 14, 2020, 08:44:11 PM +0100
I don't understand why Spa has been dropped. Can you elaborate please?

EDIT: It appears that after some testing it was found that some of the chosen cars were on the limiter for most of a lap.

That is why this event has been replaced.


Title: Re: 2020 NoGrip Legacy Historic TC Championship.
Post by: Nappe1 on June 15, 2020, 06:25:52 AM +0100
I don't understand why Spa has been dropped. Can you elaborate please?

EDIT: It appears that after some testing it was found that some of the chosen cars were on the limiter for most of a lap.

That is why this event has been replaced.

yeah, sorry not being specific on that. I got multiple private messages about Division 2 cars struggling in Spa.  

However, I will test also the nowadays layouts (last year we ran 1967 layout) tonight as this year the series has been called historic touring car championship just for enabling to use more newer layouts than last year, which was loosely based on year 1970. If there's no big problems on that, We will run Spa as normal race. :)



Title: Re: 2020 NoGrip Legacy Historic TC Championship.
Post by: Nappe1 on June 15, 2020, 02:31:15 PM +0100
After doing some tests, I found that nowadays layouts of Spa are just fine for the normal race. Race Invitation will follow soon. :)


Title: Re: 2020 NoGrip Legacy Historic TC Championship.
Post by: Nappe1 on June 15, 2020, 03:40:10 PM +0100
NoGrip Legacy HTC Championship 2020
Spa-Francorchamps normal race event
22nd of June, 2020


Race invitation and discussing thread here:
https://www.simracing.org.uk/smf/index.php?topic=20421.0


Title: Re: 2020 NoGrip Legacy Historic TC Championship.
Post by: Nappe1 on June 16, 2020, 09:56:52 AM +0100
Points updated after Irski Venac Hill Climb. :)


Title: Re: 2020 NoGrip Legacy Historic TC Championship.
Post by: Nappe1 on June 23, 2020, 01:04:28 PM +0100
Points updated after Spa race. :)


Title: Re: 2020 NoGrip Legacy Historic TC Championship.
Post by: Nappe1 on July 15, 2020, 02:12:16 PM +0100
While the car pack update is soon to be ready, I decided to take Giannini to Nurburgring... :D
Perhaps new lap record in 70's GTL Nords for car under 500cc? :)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pGBaPYLm504


Title: Re: 2020 NoGrip Legacy Historic TC Championship.
Post by: SpecialKS on July 15, 2020, 04:43:21 PM +0100
 :) ;) :thumbup1: :thumbup2:


Title: Re: 2020 NoGrip Legacy Historic TC Championship.
Post by: Nappe1 on July 28, 2020, 06:19:58 PM +0100
Car pack update is finally here!

DOWNLOAD: https://drive.google.com/open?id=16EYDbEiDINC1ufPyvjMZ4UCVAd1mhfsl

Changed things:

DIVISION 3:
1970 Ford Capri 2300GT:
- Complete new physics which are based on real world data of 1970 ETCC Weslake Capri.
- Gearbox, engine, suspension and tyre profiles changed.
- Less power, but it's better drive and heck of lot more gear ratios. All from real world documentation of course. (old one had the original in game capri gearbox which was not exactly perfect fit for our championship use.)
- Division 3 cars under 2500cc have all now 80 liter fuel tanks

1970 BMW 2800CS:
- Also complete new physics that represent 2800CS as it was in 1970.
- Greg7's original physics were later model, so this one is a bit slower, but according to Stig #1 and Stig #2, it's also easier now to drive.
- Division 3 cars over 2500cc have now 100 liter fuel tanks


DIVISION 2:
1970 Mini 1275GT:
- Mini gains a cockpit lap timer. Yay! :)
- Whole suspension setup reworked, so that it now handles like a proper mini.
- Applied weight reduction parts  from homologation documents. Now weights 696 kg.
- fitted worse brakes to rear. Should be now easier to setup without having extensive oversteer on braking.
- Engine and gearbox are untouched, but at least for me it is a bit faster now.
- All Div 2 cars now feature 70 liter fuel tanks
- Avon delivers now 3 different compounds for Mini 1275GT to select: Medium, Soft and SuperSoft.

1970 Alfa GTA Jnr:
- Applied weight reduction parts. Weights now 820kg.
- Installed second set of individual gear ratios as option.
- All Div 2 cars now feature 70 liter fuel tanks
- Alfa gets their tires from Firestone, which delivers also 3 compounds for GTA Jnr: Medium, Soft and SuperSoft

1970 Ford Escort 1300GT:
- Ford's choice of tire supplier is Dunlop. Dunlop delivers 3 compounds as well: Hard, Medium and Soft.
- All Div 2 cars now feature 70 liter fuel tanks

1970 Isuzu Bellett GTR:
- Isuzu uses Avon slicks for now, as the Yokohama has not gotten their slicks ready. Three compounds are same as Mini: Medium, Soft and Supersoft
- All Div 2 cars now feature 70 liter fuel tanks

1970 Ford Escort TC:
- Ford's choice of tire supplier is Dunlop. Dunlop delivers 3 compounds as well: Hard, Medium and Soft.
- All Div 2 cars now feature 70 liter fuel tanks


...so  as short:
- Div 3 / over 2000cc cars have now proper physics and...
- Division 2 cars have 3 different tyre compounds to select.

Division 2 compounds basic principle is: more soft -> more grip, more tyre wear and easier warm up. But there's differencies between the suppliers, so Avon Supersoft is different what firestone Supersoft is. :)
The one selected as default has same amount of grip as the old only compound had. However it's tyre wear might be different.

The download link can be found also from the first post of this thread.


At last, thank you very much all volunteers for testing. There was so many guys that I had to choose just few due my limited time for correcting and changing stuff while developing the cars. Both Stigs were extremely helpful giving reports and testing newer versions. Thank you both. :)



Title: Re: 2020 NoGrip Legacy Historic TC Championship.
Post by: Dimitar Dulichki on July 28, 2020, 07:03:36 PM +0100
Amazing job Nappe, i can't wait for the championship to resume as one of my favorite cars on the pack has been modified. :)


Title: Re: 2020 NoGrip Legacy Historic TC Championship.
Post by: SpecialKS on July 28, 2020, 07:13:09 PM +0100
Sounds like a kind of a masterpiece  :thumbup1:

Will give it a try over the weekend.

CU on track.


Title: Re: 2020 NoGrip Legacy Historic TC Championship.
Post by: Nappe1 on July 30, 2020, 05:30:14 PM +0100
NoGrip Legacy HTC Championship 2020
Zolder twin race event
10th of August, 2020

NOTICE: this is the first race where car pack update is being used. Download it if you have not already.
https://drive.google.com/open?id=16EYDbEiDINC1ufPyvjMZ4UCVAd1mhfsl

Race invitation and discussing thread here:
https://www.simracing.org.uk/smf/index.php?topic=21002.0


Title: Re: 2020 NoGrip Legacy Historic TC Championship.
Post by: Nappe1 on August 13, 2020, 02:35:52 PM +0100
Points updated after Zolder twin race event. :)


Title: Re: 2020 NoGrip Legacy Historic TC Championship.
Post by: Nappe1 on August 13, 2020, 02:37:23 PM +0100
NoGrip Legacy HTC Championship 2020
Nurburgring 500kms Endurance
22nd of August, 2020 (SATURDAY)

The one we have waited (read: feared) for. :)
So far only 2 guys have reached the 500km boundary in Online GTL races; Nocatu and me. We'll see if get some new names this year to 500km hall of fame. :)

NOTICE: this is the second race where car pack update is being used. Download it if you have not already.
https://drive.google.com/open?id=16EYDbEiDINC1ufPyvjMZ4UCVAd1mhfsl

Race invitation and discussing thread here:
https://www.simracing.org.uk/smf/index.php?topic=21052.0



Title: Re: 2020 NoGrip Legacy Historic TC Championship.
Post by: Nappe1 on August 28, 2020, 08:08:57 AM +0100
Hi guys,
Sorry being a bit absent. I have been busy rewamping our racing server and moving it to new place. (Now it is located in the same living room corner as my gaming rig, so not really a long distance server move.  ;D) I have also done some cable management, air flow work, new fans and fan noise control for the casing, so from now on, the server will come alive at the same time as the race invitation and will stay online until the race. :) (if you are interested, I can post some images and story about the computer itself in a proper forum.)

I will post the race invitation for next race this evening. :)


Title: Re: 2020 NoGrip Legacy Historic TC Championship.
Post by: Nappe1 on August 28, 2020, 07:16:38 PM +0100
Points updated after Nurburgring 500km event.
Points situation is very interesting. There's only half point difference in Division 3 and in overall points, nothing has been declared yet. :)

And remember that there will be 2 other Endurances yet to come. :)


Title: Re: 2020 NoGrip Legacy Historic TC Championship.
Post by: Nappe1 on August 28, 2020, 07:27:08 PM +0100
NoGrip Legacy HTC Championship 2020
TI Aida  normal race event
31st of August, 2020


NOTICE: this is the third race where car pack update is being used. Download it if you have not already.
https://drive.google.com/open?id=16EYDbEiDINC1ufPyvjMZ4UCVAd1mhfsl

Race invitation and discussing thread here:
https://www.simracing.org.uk/smf/index.php?topic=21512.0


Title: Re: 2020 NoGrip Legacy Historic TC Championship.
Post by: Dimitar Dulichki on August 31, 2020, 02:58:55 PM +0100
There is some bug with the Isuzu Bellett. When i change the rear tires that changes the final gear of the car as well.
EDIT: It can be changed back with the final gear setting though, so not a big deal.


Title: Re: 2020 NoGrip Legacy Historic TC Championship.
Post by: Nappe1 on August 31, 2020, 03:28:22 PM +0100
There is some bug with the Isuzu Bellett. When i change the rear tires that changes the final gear of the car as well.
EDIT: It can be changed back with the final gear setting though, so not a big deal.
It's not a bug. Softer tyres have smaller diameter. :) That's same with all other cars with several compounds as well. :)


Title: Re: 2020 NoGrip Legacy Historic TC Championship.
Post by: Nappe1 on September 04, 2020, 11:36:33 AM +0100
Points updated after TI Aida. :)
Race Invitation for Monday will be posted tonight.


Title: Re: 2020 NoGrip Legacy Historic TC Championship.
Post by: Nappe1 on September 04, 2020, 08:50:26 PM +0100
NoGrip Legacy HTC Championship 2020
Tsukuba  normal race event
7th of September, 2020


NOTICE: this is the fourth race where car pack update is being used. Download it if you have not already.
https://drive.google.com/open?id=16EYDbEiDINC1ufPyvjMZ4UCVAd1mhfsl

Race invitation and discussing thread here:
https://www.simracing.org.uk/smf/index.php?topic=21581.0


Title: Re: 2020 NoGrip Legacy Historic TC Championship.
Post by: Nappe1 on September 09, 2020, 07:43:01 AM +0100
Points updated after Tsukuba. :)


Title: Re: 2020 NoGrip Legacy Historic TC Championship.
Post by: Nappe1 on September 15, 2020, 07:13:28 PM +0100
For the next race, I found few graphic bugs from cockpits of both Gianninis and from Abarth. I have released CarUpdate2 which fixes these. This update includes also all the files from update1, so if you have not yet installed the first update, you can skip it and use this one instead. :)


https://drive.google.com/file/d/1uztAzTv85_vKW4CjnB3LPneXKjdgzzah/view?usp=sharing

Installation as usual: Extract the files and overwrite existing files. :)


Title: Re: 2020 NoGrip Legacy Historic TC Championship.
Post by: Nappe1 on September 17, 2020, 08:25:53 PM +0100
NoGrip Legacy HTC Championship 2020
Barber Motorsport Park 2 hours for microcars endurance event
21st of September, 2020


Second Endurance of the season. :) This one is Time based. Race will end when 2 hours is passed, not when lap count is reached.
To make things more interesting, race will end in darkness, so remember read the notes. :)
Notice that Car Update 2 was released and it fixes the Giannini and Abarth dashboard gauges not having lights. You can download the update from here: https://drive.google.com/file/d/1uztAzTv85_vKW4CjnB3LPneXKjdgzzah/view?usp=sharing

Race invitation and discussing thread here:
https://www.simracing.org.uk/smf/index.php?topic=21691.0



Title: Re: 2020 NoGrip Legacy Historic TC Championship.
Post by: Nappe1 on September 25, 2020, 09:30:15 PM +0100
NoGrip Legacy HTC Championship 2020
Daytona Road Course  normal race event
28th of September, 2020


NOTICE: this is the second race where car pack update 2 is being used. Download it if you have not already.
https://drive.google.com/file/d/1uztAzTv85_vKW4CjnB3LPneXKjdgzzah/view?usp=sharing

Race invitation and discussing thread here:
https://www.simracing.org.uk/smf/index.php?topic=21801.0



Title: Re: 2020 NoGrip Legacy Historic TC Championship.
Post by: Nappe1 on October 08, 2020, 07:21:54 PM +0100
NoGrip Legacy HTC Championship 2020
St. Ursanne Hillclimb
12th of September, 2020


NOTICE: this is the third race where car pack update 2 is being used. Download it if you have not already.
https://drive.google.com/file/d/1uztAzTv85_vKW4CjnB3LPneXKjdgzzah/view?usp=sharing

Race invitation and discussing thread here:
https://www.simracing.org.uk/smf/index.php?topic=21961.0




Title: Re: 2020 NoGrip Legacy Historic TC Championship.
Post by: Nappe1 on October 14, 2020, 09:17:10 PM +0100
NoGrip Legacy HTC Championship 2020
La Ronde Cevenole 2 Hour Session Sprint
19th of September, 2020

Here's the surprise!
Third Endurance of the season. :) This one is session sprint. Totally new style event in very long track. Please load invitation carefully.
Notice that Car Update 2 is used here as in previous races. If you  have not yet downloaded it, you can download the update from here: https://drive.google.com/file/d/1uztAzTv85_vKW4CjnB3LPneXKjdgzzah/view?usp=sharing

Race invitation and discussing thread here:
https://www.simracing.org.uk/smf/index.php?topic=22012.0


Title: Re: 2020 NoGrip Legacy Historic TC Championship.
Post by: Nappe1 on October 21, 2020, 06:06:33 PM +0100
Started at last to writing points to the championship table...

18:06 --> Birmingham 2 Hours points added to points table. :)
18:17 --> Daytona Road Course points added. :)
19:24 --> St. Ursanne HillClimb points added. :)


Title: Re: 2020 NoGrip Legacy Historic TC Championship.
Post by: Nappe1 on October 21, 2020, 08:08:02 PM +0100
And now the points are up to date.
Just send La Ronde Cevenole final results pdf to kurt for publishing and updated the points tables to include Cevenole points as well. :)

As there was two drivers who did not get lap time at all, but still showed up and tried, I decided to give them normal points based on their placement. (Others who recorded a lap time, got doubled points due this being Endurance race.)



Title: Re: 2020 NoGrip Legacy Historic TC Championship.
Post by: Nappe1 on October 23, 2020, 09:37:44 AM +0100
NoGrip Legacy HTC Championship 2020
St. Roch Hillclimb
26th of September, 2020

Notice that Car Update 2 is used here as in previous races. If you  have not yet downloaded it, you can download the update from here: https://drive.google.com/file/d/1uztAzTv85_vKW4CjnB3LPneXKjdgzzah/view?usp=sharing

Race invitation and discussing thread here:
https://www.simracing.org.uk/smf/index.php?topic=22102.0


Title: Re: 2020 NoGrip Legacy Historic TC Championship.
Post by: Nappe1 on November 08, 2020, 09:57:19 AM +0000
NoGrip Legacy HTC Championship 2020
Monza twin race event
9th of November, 2020

Race invitation and discussing thread here:
https://www.simracing.org.uk/smf/index.php?topic=22331.msg421151#msg421151



Title: Re: 2020 NoGrip Legacy Historic TC Championship.
Post by: Nappe1 on November 13, 2020, 06:41:30 PM +0000
Points updated after Monza twin race. :)

Division 1 standings are now final as there is no more Division 1 races. :)


Title: Re: 2020 NoGrip Legacy Historic TC Championship.
Post by: Nappe1 on November 15, 2020, 06:15:22 PM +0000
NoGrip Legacy HTC Championship 2020
Puech Arnal Hillclimb 2
16th of November, 2020


Race invitation and discussing thread here:
https://www.simracing.org.uk/smf/index.php?topic=22482.0




Title: Re: 2020 NoGrip Legacy Historic TC Championship.
Post by: Nappe1 on November 20, 2020, 07:30:46 AM +0000
Points Updated after Puech Arnal Hillclimb 2 :)


Title: Re: 2020 NoGrip Legacy Historic TC Championship.
Post by: Nappe1 on January 15, 2021, 06:15:24 PM +0000
Points updated (finally) after Jarama final events. :)


Title: Re: 2020 NoGrip Legacy Historic TC Championship.
Post by: Geoffers on January 15, 2021, 06:23:27 PM +0000
Points updated (finally) after Jarama final events. :)

Congrats to Markus on the championship win & 3 division wins & to Nocatu for the other division win.  :clap: :clap: :clap:


Title: Re: 2020 NoGrip Legacy Historic TC Championship.
Post by: Nappe1 on January 15, 2021, 06:39:12 PM +0000
And here are the final results, at last. :)

The Division ½:
(https://drive.google.com/uc?export=view&id=121VO73435xlUFaG7MR08MOjfljSWLx5C)
The Division 1:
(https://drive.google.com/uc?export=view&id=1LiwJCrs-URa-TNRXWmhhj_Vfe1EgK5HK)
The Division 2:
(https://drive.google.com/uc?export=view&id=1AEu-qgo10W0oZNtlVgiE1PlT-4p5AVVN)
The Division 3:
(https://drive.google.com/uc?export=view&id=1X-zEHbei9uWrUJ9K_SB5-u6QL3kOF3pt)
And finally, The Overall Championship:
(https://drive.google.com/uc?export=view&id=1qRqb3xksLngNscxaqfnwp-USwk2HSW85)



Markus captured 3 of 4 division results And the Overall victory. Nocatu showed steady pace in Division 2 and was rewarded with it's victory. Congrats both! :)
Congrats also to Geoffers and Dimitar Dulichki for their top three positions in different classes.


Big thanks to Kurt helping with the results, Tony for support and all the others helping with cars when I was making them.

Very big thanks to everyone joining in this huge championship. Hopefully you had as much of good time as I had organizing and running it.  :clap:

See you in March with the next season of NoGrip HTC. :)


Title: Re: 2020 NoGrip Legacy Historic TC Championship.
Post by: SpecialKS on January 15, 2021, 07:26:41 PM +0000
Thanks Lasse, you're welcome.

Looking forward to this year's championship!


Title: Re: 2020 NoGrip Legacy Historic TC Championship.
Post by: Dimitar Dulichki on January 16, 2021, 12:30:23 AM +0000
Grats winners. It's been amazing championship. I am happy with two 3rd positions in D2 and D3. :)


Title: Re: 2020 NoGrip Legacy Historic TC Championship.
Post by: Wiltshire Tony on January 16, 2021, 01:57:28 AM +0000
I don't see an overall Championship table  ???


Title: Re: 2020 NoGrip Legacy Historic TC Championship.
Post by: Markus on January 16, 2021, 04:22:11 PM +0000
Thank you guys, and grats to Geoff, Nocatu, Dimitar, Nappe and all of you. It has been a long season, and I was really happy when it was over.
Thank you for great races and a tight competition, it was far tighter than the results say.

Thanks to Lasse for organizing and keeping it all together!!


Title: Re: 2020 NoGrip Legacy Historic TC Championship.
Post by: Nappe1 on January 16, 2021, 04:26:24 PM +0000
I don't see an overall Championship table  ???

Tried to fix it... Does it work now? :)