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Title: RRE Season 7 (2020) Race Room Gr.5 Cup - Suzuka - Apr 30
Post by: phspok on April 19, 2020, 12:28:40 PM +0100
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(2) Driver lists can be found on the championship standings page (https://www.simracing.org.uk/smf/index.php?action=LM2R;group=782&theme=4)

Practice: 19:55 BST (30 mins)
Qual 2: 20:25 (15 mins)
Race: 20:40 ~ 30 Mins

Cars allowed: Gr5 cars
Track: Suzuka
Time of Day Setting: 13:00
Weather: Dry

Start: Standing
Tyre wear: Normal
Fuel consumption:  Normal
Pit-stops: None required

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Championship Standings (https://www.simracing.org.uk/smf/index.php?action=LM2R&group=782&theme=4)

Notes:
(1) It's best if all drivers can make sure they are connected before the Qualifying session as drivers on track during qualifying will not see
cars that join after they are on track until they go back to the garage.
(2) Please make sure you are fully aware of the SimRacing.org.uk Rules (https://www.simracing.org.uk/index.php?pid=7) especially the
rules about in-game chat messages.
(3) You will need to install Race Room Racing Experience from Steam, and have the Euro and American Track Packs for this series (And maybe another
non pack track occasionally)
(4) Please exercise caution when pitting as some tracks have a speed limit.

(5) Please follow the SROUK guidelines for using kerbs etc. Please keep 2 wheels on the track surface (kerbs do not count as track surface)
Excessive cutting of corners will seen as cheating and the results may be altered to reflect this.


Title: Re: RRE Season 7 (2020) Race Room Gr.5 Cup - Suzuka - Apr 30
Post by: Wiltshire Tony on April 27, 2020, 08:44:21 PM +0100
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Title: Re: RRE Season 7 (2020) Race Room Gr.5 Cup - Suzuka - Apr 30
Post by: picnic on April 30, 2020, 01:14:23 PM +0100
Did have a ply trying to get some sort of FFB feel back in to the game with very limited success. Then it occurred to me to try installing the latest Fanatec drivers which I did before last night's AC race. I had a quick go a the BTCC competition after I crashed out of the AC race. I could certainly feel the lift-off oversteer but otherwise the steering was still really lacking. Maybe a proper rear wheel drive will be better.

So I'll be there tonight but I'm not expecting much  ::)


Title: Re: RRE Season 7 (2020) Race Room Gr.5 Cup - Suzuka - Apr 30
Post by: phspok on April 30, 2020, 03:09:14 PM +0100
I still don't understand your issue with the FFB in R3E.
Mine hasn't changed so I notice even with the changes, and a new different make of wheel?
I must be missing something


Title: Re: RRE Season 7 (2020) Race Room Gr.5 Cup - Suzuka - Apr 30
Post by: BillThomas on April 30, 2020, 04:18:36 PM +0100
I still don't understand your issue with the FFB in R3E.
Mine hasn't changed so I notice even with the changes, and a new different make of wheel?
I must be missing something

Since the last Windows 10 update my G25 wheel sometimes looses it’s settings and I have to unplug the connection to the wheel, replug it and go to Options and reset the wheel to get the feedback correct! Don’t know if this helps?  ???


Title: Re: RRE Season 7 (2020) Race Room Gr.5 Cup - Suzuka - Apr 30
Post by: goldtop on April 30, 2020, 06:53:31 PM +0100
I still don't understand your issue with the FFB in R3E.
Mine hasn't changed so I notice even with the changes, and a new different make of wheel?
I must be missing something

I believe the December update changed the FFB. I use a DFGT so I loaded the latest in-game profile as suggested and tried to adjust to my taste and never got it back to my liking. I repeated the process a couple of weeks ago as I was intending to race at Bathurst but still no good. That together with the fact that the game now somehow looks worse and runs worse for me means I haven't touched it since  :(


Title: Re: RRE Season 7 (2020) Race Room Gr.5 Cup - Suzuka - Apr 30
Post by: frex on April 30, 2020, 07:18:25 PM +0100
I was fine with the FFB just until the last couple of weeks, but now I seem to be having problems getting it to feel good again. Not sure why.


Title: Re: RRE Season 7 (2020) Race Room Gr.5 Cup - Suzuka - Apr 30
Post by: phspok on April 30, 2020, 08:41:47 PM +0100
Doesn't look any different to me, the wheel feels exacly the same as it always has to me, perhaps I am less
fussy about it, so don't really notice. Some of the cars are not good any more. I used to love the DTM92 now
I don't them at all. The Gr5 cars are still undrivable at racing pace for me, so no change there.


Title: Re: RRE Season 7 (2020) Race Room Gr.5 Cup - Suzuka - Apr 30
Post by: picnic on April 30, 2020, 09:36:34 PM +0100
I'll reserve judgement but I might have fixed my FFB woes! What I had forgotten, or it just plain escaped me, is there is a separate FFB multiplier in the car setup screen. I don't really do setups so this isn't something I'd easily spot  ::) Anyways, whacked that up tonight and the Capri had feedback, the steering had some sort of weight to it. Really was so different. Quite enjoyed the car tonight and Suzuka's never been a track I've gelled with so all in all so much happier :)

Lots of fun watching us all fall off at various stages but at least it was only in the last few mins that the gaps became significant. Was a good 4 way battle up until then. Great drive Geoff for the win, although you made a few mistakes they were only minor compared to us other 3  :-[


Title: Re: RRE Season 7 (2020) Race Room Gr.5 Cup - Suzuka - Apr 30
Post by: Alessandro Tancioni on April 30, 2020, 09:48:39 PM +0100
beautiful race, we were so close...but as usual i did my mistake.
with the last update come back on the gravel from the grass is like to try to run on the mud.

And i lost this champ due those mistakes.
grats to podium.



Title: Re: RRE Season 7 (2020) Race Room Gr.5 Cup - Suzuka - Apr 30
Post by: phspok on April 30, 2020, 09:49:42 PM +0100
Sounds reasonable. I don't understand the differences. I set the steering at 400 and 20 and drive it.
This TM wheel needs more angle as it turns more, but otherwise it feels like the G27 did.
I regret buying this Thustmaster TX wheel, it smells of hot electronics just sat there, and there sounds to be
a fan running all the time, I have no confidence it will last for long. The pedals have already failed
and needed the pots cleaning. I would buy one of their hall effect and load cell pedal boards, but
am unhappy commiting more money into something I don't really like.
No idea what the multiplier does, so I have never touched it.


Title: Re: RRE Season 7 (2020) Race Room Gr.5 Cup - Suzuka - Apr 30
Post by: phspok on April 30, 2020, 09:55:15 PM +0100
So, it seems we have a tie  ;D


1st Place: Allessandro  :clap: :clap: :clap:
1st Place: Geoffers      :clap: :clap: :clap:
3rd Plcae: Riccardo       :thumbup2: :thumbup2: :thumbup2:

Next week will be the 1st race in the new Touring Classics, do come along and have some fun  ;D

Thanks to all who came to play in this series  :thumbup1:


Title: Re: RRE Season 7 (2020) Race Room Gr.5 Cup - Suzuka - Apr 30
Post by: frex on May 01, 2020, 10:51:43 AM +0100
Sorry for holding everyone up, but man that was fun..!

Congrats Geoff and Alessandro.


Title: Re: RRE Season 7 (2020) Race Room Gr.5 Cup - Suzuka - Apr 30
Post by: frex on May 01, 2020, 11:05:50 AM +0100
No idea what the multiplier does, so I have never touched it.

Nothing wrong with ignoring it. However recommended procedure is first to dial in your in-game FFB settings with a GT3 car, as this group is considered somewhere mid-pack regarding strength of Force Feedback. Once you have these settings to your liking, you can then use the FFB multiplier on the setup page to get other cars to where you want them. There can be quite some variation in FFB output in the different cars in RRE.

@Pete: If increasing the FFB multiplier in the setup screen solved your issues, that possibly suggests you've got Force Feedback intensity and/or Steering Force Intensity set too low in game. That or something up in your wheel driver settings.



Title: Re: RRE Season 7 (2020) Race Room Gr.5 Cup - Suzuka - Apr 30
Post by: BillThomas on May 01, 2020, 11:24:12 AM +0100
So, it seems we have a tie  ;D


1st Place: Allessandro  :clap: :clap: :clap:
1st Place: Geoffers      :clap: :clap: :clap:
3rd Plcae: Riccardo       :thumbup2: :thumbup2: :thumbup2:

Next week will be the 1st race in the new Touring Classics, do come along and have some fun  ;D

Thanks to all who cam e to play in thos series  :thumbup1:

Thanks Matt for organising the Series and the other Series you have run on Thursday nights! ;D  Looking forward to your new Series and the new challenges.  ???


Title: Re: RRE Season 7 (2020) Race Room Gr.5 Cup - Suzuka - Apr 30
Post by: phspok on May 01, 2020, 11:42:05 AM +0100
Thanks Bill. I think you are very brave to battle on with these Gr5 cars, I find them more masochism than fun.
The next 3 series should be a friendlier drive, The CKlasse can be a handfull, but for me less vicious than these  ::)


Title: Re: RRE Season 7 (2020) Race Room Gr.5 Cup - Suzuka - Apr 30
Post by: picnic on May 01, 2020, 11:50:21 AM +0100
Thanks Matt for organising the Series and the other Series you have run on Thursday nights! ;D  Looking forward to your new Series and the new challenges.  ???
What he says  ;D Thanks Matt greatly appreciated  :notworthy:


Title: Re: RRE Season 7 (2020) Race Room Gr.5 Cup - Suzuka - Apr 30
Post by: frex on May 01, 2020, 11:53:00 AM +0100
Thanks Matt for organising the Series and the other Series you have run on Thursday nights! ;D  Looking forward to your new Series and the new challenges.  ???

+1 Thanks Matt.


Title: Re: RRE Season 7 (2020) Race Room Gr.5 Cup - Suzuka - Apr 30
Post by: Geoffers on May 01, 2020, 12:00:15 PM +0100
Yep, that was a good race, 4 of us quite evenly matched. We all made mistakes at some point, guess I just made less serious ones. Agree with Alessandro about the slipperiness after an off track moment, takes longer to get the grip back after the last update. Yes these cars are quite challenging to drive, you need to be very controlled & restrained with them, but I find them quite rewarding when I get it right.

Congrats to Pete & Alessandro on the podium  :clap: :clap:, & congrats to Alessandro on the joint championship win  :notworthy:.

Finally, thanks to Matt for organising these races, just really wish we could find a way to attract more drivers. ???


Title: Re: RRE Season 7 (2020) Race Room Gr.5 Cup - Suzuka - Apr 30
Post by: BillThomas on May 01, 2020, 01:26:59 PM +0100
Yep, that was a good race, 4 of us quite evenly matched. We all made mistakes at some point, guess I just made less serious ones. Agree with Alessandro about the slipperiness after an off track moment, takes longer to get the grip back after the last update. Yes these cars are quite challenging to drive, you need to be very controlled & restrained with them, but I find them quite rewarding when I get it right.

Congrats to Pete & Alessandro on the podium  :clap: :clap:, & congrats to Alessandro on the joint championship win  :notworthy:.

Finally, thanks to Matt for organising these races, just really wish we could find a way to attract more drivers. ???

The slipperiness after an off was my biggest problem!!!!   ??? Towards the end of the race I couldn’t stay on the track and spent an age to complete a lap. In the end with 30 seconds remaining went straight on on the First gear corner and totally wrecked the car.  :'(


Title: Re: RRE Season 7 (2020) Race Room Gr.5 Cup - Suzuka - Apr 30
Post by: phspok on May 01, 2020, 04:45:22 PM +0100
The dirt on tyres simulation is way too much, in AC they overdo the overheated tyres as if they were on ice as well.