Title: Elise Cup - round 2 - Silverstone GP - 22nd August Post by: Dave 'Gizmo' Gymer on August 16, 2006, 09:43:26 AM +0100 Date: Tuesday 22nd August
Track: Silverstone; download from this page (https://www.simracing.org.uk/index.php?pid=27) - hosted by Team Shark (http://www.teamshark.org.uk/) Practice 1: 20:30 (25 mins) Practice 2: none Qual 2: 20:55 (18 mins) Warmup: 21:13 (2 mins) Race: 21:15 (40 mins) Cars allowed: Lotus Elise only - see this thread (https://www.simracing.org.uk/smf/index.php?topic=1975) for car pack and team choices Weather: Dry Start: Standing Server: UKGTR Elise Cup Password: Server Password will be the usual practice/fun race password, as shown in this post (https://www.simracing.org.uk/smf/index.php?topic=12.0). Notes: (1) No registration is required; all forum-registered members may join. (2) It's best if all drivers can make sure they are connected before the Qualifying session as drivers on track during qualifying will not see cars that join after they are on track until they go back to the garage. (3) See the Series Info (https://www.simracing.org.uk/index.php?ind=lm2&group=30) for general Elise Cup info. (4) Please make sure you are fully aware of the UKGTR Rules (https://www.simracing.org.uk/index.php?pid=7); note that we have no specific standing start rules, but first lap incidents will be punished more harshly than subsequent incidents Title: Re: Elise Cup - round 2 - Silverstone GP - 22nd August Post by: Mark J on August 16, 2006, 10:33:07 AM +0100 Is this the same Silverstone track we used in GTR endurance race earlier on?...save me downloading it again.
Title: Re: Elise Cup - round 2 - Silverstone GP - 22nd August Post by: picnic on August 16, 2006, 11:14:18 AM +0100 Is this the same Silverstone track we used in GTR endurance race earlier on?...save me downloading it again. Yes it is. Title: Re: Elise Cup - round 2 - Silverstone GP - 22nd August Post by: Paddy Cummins on August 16, 2006, 12:55:19 PM +0100 I only noticed this now. Pity I missed round 1. I'll be here for round 2 please God. Nice little idea though I must say.
Title: Re: Elise Cup - round 2 - Silverstone GP - 22nd August Post by: Dave 'Gizmo' Gymer on August 18, 2006, 10:00:39 PM +0100 You will need a car pack for this event - I will publish the link here tomorrow after I've tested it and uploaded it to the downloads section.
Title: Re: Elise Cup - round 2 - Silverstone GP - 22nd August Post by: Jeffrey on August 18, 2006, 10:16:16 PM +0100 You will need a car pack for this event - I will publish the link here tomorrow after I've tested it and uploaded it to the downloads section. i tried the skinpack by unpacking it in the main folder, but somehow the cars don't show ??? Title: Re: Elise Cup - round 2 - Silverstone GP - 22nd August Post by: Dave 'Gizmo' Gymer on August 19, 2006, 10:29:56 AM +0100 i tried the skinpack by unpacking it in the main folder, but somehow the cars don't show ??? You have to select the DigitalDriving LEC car class. Title: Re: Elise Cup - round 2 - Silverstone GP - 22nd August Post by: Dave 'Gizmo' Gymer on August 19, 2006, 11:22:19 AM +0100 First post updated with link to the car pack thread.
Please read that thread, download the pack, and post your choice of car. Teams will choose a single car skin between them. Picnic/Shark/... - are we okay to get the pack onto the server in time for Tuesday's race? Title: Re: Elise Cup - round 2 - Silverstone GP - 22nd August Post by: picnic on August 19, 2006, 12:10:20 PM +0100 Picnic/Shark/... - are we okay to get the pack onto the server in time for Tuesday's race? Yes, I'll do it this afternoon along with the rF mods we talked about now I have control back Title: Re: Elise Cup - round 2 - Silverstone GP - 22nd August Post by: Dave 'Gizmo' Gymer on August 19, 2006, 12:32:09 PM +0100 Yes, I'll do it this afternoon along with the rF mods we talked about now I have control back Cool. 8) Title: Re: Elise Cup - round 2 - Silverstone GP - 22nd August Post by: silver53 on August 19, 2006, 04:07:32 PM +0100 Sorry but I cannot see the cars either. gerald
Title: Re: Elise Cup - round 2 - Silverstone GP - 22nd August Post by: Dave 'Gizmo' Gymer on August 19, 2006, 04:42:47 PM +0100 Sorry but I cannot see the cars either. gerald You almost certainly haven't followed the instructions! :P Title: Re: Elise Cup - round 2 - Silverstone GP - 22nd August Post by: picnic on August 19, 2006, 05:01:17 PM +0100 I've installed the car pack locally and on the server today, both work fine. You are copying the GameData directory from within lec1carsetv10 to your rfactor install directory aren't you?
Title: Re: Elise Cup - round 2 - Silverstone GP - 22nd August Post by: Dave 'Gizmo' Gymer on August 19, 2006, 05:04:05 PM +0100 I've installed the car pack locally and on the server today, both work fine. You are copying the GameData directory from within lec1carsetv10 to your rfactor install directory aren't you? I hope he's copying it to his GTR directory! :P :laugh: To repeat what I put in the replay, the new Elises are not with the normal one, they're in their own car class. You need to pick the LEC class, on the screen with all the blue-grey boxes (American Muscle, GT, NGT, etc). Title: Re: Elise Cup - round 2 - Silverstone GP - 22nd August Post by: picnic on August 19, 2006, 05:11:55 PM +0100 I hope he's copying it to his GTR directory! :P :laugh: :-[ Doh, silly me! Must still be in rF mode after installing the PCC/Proto/Demon/ASRWC stuff ;) Title: Re: Elise Cup - round 2 - Silverstone GP - 22nd August Post by: Don on August 19, 2006, 06:57:06 PM +0100 Wonder if any team is going to take the Barbie cars? :clown:
Title: Re: Elise Cup - round 2 - Silverstone GP - 22nd August Post by: silver53 on August 19, 2006, 11:51:31 PM +0100 Hi I got it working but had to copy the files into the game data folder manually.gerald
Title: Re: Elise Cup - round 2 - Silverstone GP - 22nd August Post by: Pedro[PL] on August 22, 2006, 02:30:12 PM +0100 Haven't raced Silverstone since Toca 1 :) Boy it changed!
Title: Re: Elise Cup - round 2 - Silverstone GP - 22nd August Post by: Edza on August 22, 2006, 02:38:06 PM +0100 Still nice and fast tho! 8)
Title: Re: Elise Cup - round 2 - Silverstone GP - 22nd August Post by: Paddy Cummins on August 22, 2006, 02:49:11 PM +0100 Unlikely I'll make today race. I have to go out at half 8 so unless that is called off, I'll need to wait until round 3. Shame. Have fun if I don't turn up.
Title: Re: Elise Cup - round 2 - Silverstone GP - 22nd August Post by: Adam Parle on August 22, 2006, 03:33:55 PM +0100 I'm really looking forward to another race in the Elises, only managed a bit of practice so far, but starting to consistently knock time off my PB. Not anticipating as good a qualifying as at Donny, as I really haven't spent much time at Silverstone ever. Hoepfully we'll have another good turnout, as last weeks race was a cracker.
Title: Re: Elise Cup - round 2 - Silverstone GP - 22nd August Post by: Truetom on August 22, 2006, 09:15:43 PM +0100 No praccy, no race. Sorry Jon, I just couldn't get used to your setup in such a short time. Major setup changes in quali 2 - not my way of preparing to race. :)
Another time. 8) TT Title: Re: Elise Cup - round 2 - Silverstone GP - 22nd August Post by: Pedro[PL] on August 22, 2006, 09:27:53 PM +0100 Qualified 4th. Almost third but qual session ended 20 meters before the SF line :( Anyway - nice for a 30min practice on a track I last drove 10 years ago (Toca 1).
I have loaded my race set and went to do a warmup lap. Session changed with me still on track, and it screen displayed for a moment as expected. Suddenly I got "lost connection with server". End of race :( Just can't wait for another Elise race! This car is brilliant! Title: Re: Elise Cup - round 2 - Silverstone GP - 22nd August Post by: Zacari on August 22, 2006, 09:32:48 PM +0100 Bugger :( I presume this'll be scrapped and normal race next week?
Title: Re: Elise Cup - round 2 - Silverstone GP - 22nd August Post by: Jeffrey on August 22, 2006, 09:33:38 PM +0100 Shame shame. Great track.
Atleast I know I can still do standing starts quite well. Title: Re: Elise Cup - round 2 - Silverstone GP - 22nd August Post by: Simon Gymer on August 22, 2006, 09:35:34 PM +0100 First time I'd tried the Elise since the early early days of GTR. Just jumped straight into very end of Practice 1 for my first laps in the little English blighter and was very suprised to be 6th on the grid. Dunno how that happened as I haven't driven one of these in so long.
Well it didn't go to well. Great start for me from 6th to 4th and then race lasted 5 minutes before it finished. Easiest 4th I ever got. :laugh: We used this addon track before for RoC last year without problems, no idea why it went screwy. It said 40 mins in screen and 25 laps which was right and I just doubled checked server and it is set correctly, so obviously a track bug that comes and goes. I noticed after 1st lap that the counter was already down to 2:30 ish to go and I thought oh yeah, gonna be a short one this one. Title: Re: Elise Cup - round 2 - Silverstone GP - 22nd August Post by: JonM_uk on August 22, 2006, 09:36:32 PM +0100 You got out at the right time TT :P
Was looking forward to that but I think that's the first time a major bug has hit a race here for me so it's not been a bad run. Great Time Matjaz 8) Just so naturally quick :o Catch you next time lads Title: Re: Elise Cup - round 2 - Silverstone GP - 22nd August Post by: Adam Parle on August 22, 2006, 09:39:19 PM +0100 Shame it lasted all of 5 minutes, it was a very clean start from what I saw and there were going to be a few cracking battles .... but it was not to be. Time to get a few laps in in preparation for the GTL ladder race!
Title: Re: Elise Cup - round 2 - Silverstone GP - 22nd August Post by: Dave 'Gizmo' Gymer on August 22, 2006, 09:59:21 PM +0100 Did the car pack at least work okay?
Title: Re: Elise Cup - round 2 - Silverstone GP - 22nd August Post by: JonM_uk on August 22, 2006, 10:00:36 PM +0100 Yes seemed to :) NP for 2 laps ;)
Title: Re: Elise Cup - round 2 - Silverstone GP - 22nd August Post by: Truetom on August 22, 2006, 10:22:35 PM +0100 We had TPG race - Elise at Zolder. All others went as it was planned for 30 min, only for me the race lasted 2 laps. The catch seems to be a file called SIM_LEC1_25min.gdb - at least that's how they call it. Dunno what it has to be changed to work in Silverstone.
http://tpgforums.fraghard.com/showthread.php?t=1454 Hope the link works. ::) TT Title: Re: Elise Cup - round 2 - Silverstone GP - 22nd August Post by: Dave 'Gizmo' Gymer on August 22, 2006, 10:43:13 PM +0100 We had TPG race - Elise at Zolder. All others went as it was planned for 30 min, only for me the race lasted 2 laps. The catch seems to be a file called SIM_LEC1_25min.gdb - at least that's how they call it. Dunno what it has to be changed to work in Silverstone. http://tpgforums.fraghard.com/showthread.php?t=1454 Hope the link works. ::) That implicates the car pack. :( I'll see if I can actually get on the TPG forums at work tomorrow. Title: Re: Elise Cup - round 2 - Silverstone GP - 22nd August Post by: silver53 on August 22, 2006, 10:48:19 PM +0100 Thats typical isnt it I went from last to at least 16 in 2 laps and had a whole load of cars in front of me then it went belly up . sorry to car I SQUEEZED but I had a set up from john which I adjusted a bit . Also have to admit that I used to go quite well at Silverstone in real life. cheers gerald
Title: Re: Elise Cup - round 2 - Silverstone GP - 22nd August Post by: Jeffrey on August 23, 2006, 12:31:13 AM +0100 Shall I make a video about this race ;)?
Title: Re: Elise Cup - round 2 - Silverstone GP - 22nd August Post by: Haiku on August 23, 2006, 02:23:13 AM +0100 We had TPG race - Elise at Zolder. All others went as it was planned for 30 min, only for me the race lasted 2 laps. The catch seems to be a file called SIM_LEC1_25min.gdb - at least that's how they call it. Dunno what it has to be changed to work in Silverstone. http://tpgforums.fraghard.com/showthread.php?t=1454 Hope the link works. ::) TT This was actually cleared up for the second race. Long story short - the car skin pack we got was made for 1.5 and I had to go in and change the gdb file to make it work correctly for 1.4. Here are the instructions for the car pack from our forums: MAKE-A-WISH FOUNDATION ELISE CUP SKIN PACK Download -> Elise Cup skin pack (20 megs) (http://media.tpgleague.org/racing/elisecup.rar) (you may have to do a right click and save for it download correctly) Unpack to your base GTR folder (example: C:\Program Files\GTR) or unpack it to something like C:\temp and then copy the files over to your base GTR folder if you want to check the files first. UPDATED Please download this patch (http://media.tpgleague.org/racing/elisecup_patch.zip) to correct a problem with time scaling. Just copy the file to your GTR/GameData folder. That's it. This skin pack is setup as it's own season, like our standard league skin pack. It should not interfere with the standard TPG skin pack at all. Title: Re: Elise Cup - round 2 - Silverstone GP - 22nd August Post by: Haiku on August 23, 2006, 02:24:43 AM +0100 We are going to do more Elise Cup races in the future, I don't what is going to happen with GTR2 - I guess I'll have to see if the digitalracing.nl boys will be updating the car pack.
Title: Re: Elise Cup - round 2 - Silverstone GP - 22nd August Post by: Haiku on August 23, 2006, 02:30:39 AM +0100 woaw...
...you guys are doing your own Elise Cup? Here I am thinking this was a thread I started for TPG... :blink: Title: Re: Elise Cup - round 2 - Silverstone GP - 22nd August Post by: Truetom on August 23, 2006, 04:58:33 AM +0100 Here you CAN be in both places at one time, Haiku. ;D
TT Title: Re: Elise Cup - round 2 - Silverstone GP - 22nd August Post by: Don on August 23, 2006, 06:51:00 AM +0100 Shame about that last night, it looked like it was shaping up for some close racing.
Title: Re: Elise Cup - round 2 - Silverstone GP - 22nd August Post by: Dave 'Gizmo' Gymer on August 23, 2006, 07:58:33 AM +0100 ...you guys are doing your own Elise Cup? Here I am thinking this was a thread I started for TPG... :blink: :laugh: Bit awkward about the patch; strictly speaking, because we agreed not to change any of the files, we shouldn't really patch it, but under the circumstances we don't really have much choice. I've uploaded the patch to here (https://www.simracing.org.uk/downloads/lec1carsetv10-patch14.zip) and will make sure that the next announcement lists it. Title: Re: Elise Cup - round 2 - Silverstone GP - 22nd August Post by: Simon Gymer on August 23, 2006, 08:34:46 AM +0100 Did the car pack at least work okay? Mostly, but not entirely. THere were loads of mismatches being displayed on my screen. The ones I can remember were a message about Ruskus getting a mismatch with Mark Jonzo's car. Every time Mark went out on track it would show up a mismatch. Might have been others too but I remember seeing that one all the time. Title: Re: Elise Cup - round 2 - Silverstone GP - 22nd August Post by: picnic on August 23, 2006, 08:56:00 AM +0100 Replay and results (http://www.ukgtr.org/replay/GREAT%20BRITAIN%20-%20Elise%20Cup%20220806.zip) are available for your comsumption but I've assumed this event will be rerun (or scrapped) so data not imported.
Title: Re: Elise Cup - round 2 - Silverstone GP - 22nd August Post by: Dave 'Gizmo' Gymer on August 23, 2006, 09:21:20 AM +0100 There were loads of mismatches being displayed on my screen. The ones I can remember were a message about Ruskus getting a mismatch with Mark Jonzo's car. Every time Mark went out on track it would show up a mismatch. Might have been others too but I remember seeing that one all the time. Don't we sometimes get those even with the standard GTR cars? Title: Re: Elise Cup - round 2 - Silverstone GP - 22nd August Post by: Dave 'Gizmo' Gymer on August 23, 2006, 09:21:35 AM +0100 Rerun (https://www.simracing.org.uk/smf/index.php?topic=1987.0) scheduled for next Tuesday.
Title: Re: Elise Cup - round 2 - Silverstone GP - 22nd August Post by: Mark J on August 23, 2006, 09:56:04 AM +0100 Ah, the reason others were getting a mis-match with my car is i already had that small patch installed from my TPG races. I had thought that after the race i'll let Dave know about the patch so he can apply it to all, but was under the impression it was just a 'time-scaling' fix, so hadnt considered it to be a major flaw that might affect the racing as we dont race using time-scaling. :-[ I thought it would just get rid of the 'mis-match' messages. :-\
Title: Re: Elise Cup - round 2 - Silverstone GP - 22nd August Post by: Truetom on August 23, 2006, 10:22:54 AM +0100 Did the car pack at least work okay? Mostly, but not entirely. THere were loads of mismatches being displayed on my screen. The ones I can remember were a message about Ruskus getting a mismatch with Mark Jonzo's car. Every time Mark went out on track it would show up a mismatch. Might have been others too but I remember seeing that one all the time. I got missmatches with Ruskus also. As Mark, I also dabble in TPG races. ;) TT Title: Re: Elise Cup - round 2 - Silverstone GP - 22nd August Post by: Simon Gymer on August 23, 2006, 11:23:15 AM +0100 Don't we sometimes get those even with the standard GTR cars? No. I think sometimes we get the very odd one with the SimRacing UKGTR car pack, probably where people have fiddled with it in minor ways. Title: Re: Elise Cup - round 2 - Silverstone GP - 22nd August Post by: Haiku on August 23, 2006, 01:55:34 PM +0100 Ah, the reason others were getting a mis-match with my car is i already had that small patch installed from my TPG races. I had thought that after the race i'll let Dave know about the patch so he can apply it to all, but was under the impression it was just a 'time-scaling' fix, so hadnt considered it to be a major flaw that might affect the racing as we dont race using time-scaling. :-[ I thought it would just get rid of the 'mis-match' messages. :-\ No Mark, When I say time scaling I mean that if you don't use that patch your race length will only be like 2 or 3 laps, instead of say 25 or 30. See I think the root of the problem is that the skin pack wa designed for 25 minute races, but we wanted to do races of different length and that was causing a problem with the existing gdb file. Title: Re: Elise Cup - round 2 - Silverstone GP - 22nd August Post by: Mark J on August 23, 2006, 04:02:49 PM +0100 Ah, that would explain everything that happened last night then ! :-[ ::)
Thanks Haiku. Title: Re: Elise Cup - round 2 - Silverstone GP - 22nd August Post by: Haiku on August 23, 2006, 04:11:00 PM +0100 ya there is definately that "wtf" effect when you are cruising and all of a sudden 3 laps in your race is over and everyone else is tooling along.
Title: Re: Elise Cup - round 2 - Silverstone GP - 22nd August Post by: Truetom on August 23, 2006, 04:30:57 PM +0100 Especialy when you lead... ::)
TT Title: Re: Elise Cup - round 2 - Silverstone GP - 22nd August Post by: Paddy Cummins on August 23, 2006, 05:18:32 PM +0100 Well, at least it means that I could go out last night and not miss 2 rounds of the series.lol. :P
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