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Title: UKGPL Season 36 (2020) 1967 F1 Junior - Imola - May 10
Post by: Billy Nobrakes on May 06, 2020, 09:52:34 PM +0100
Season 36 1967F1 – Round 8 –  Imola - Juniors


Season 36 is a joint series between GPL Brazil and UKGPL. This post is for the Junior division.
The track was inaugurated in 1953, and it had no chicanes, so the run from Rivazza all the way to Tosa, through the pits and the eventually notorious Tamburello was totally flat out, as was the run from Acque Minerali all the way to Rivazza was just a long straight with a few small bends; and the circuit remained in this configuration until 1972. Long time home of the San Marino Grand Prix (and once of the Italian Grand Prix) the circuit is fast, bumpy and dangerous.
After the deaths of Roland Ratzenberger and Ayrton Senna in 1994, the track was remodelled to reduce speeds but we use the original, high speed layout.

Server = UKGPL10
IP = 217.155.118.41
Race date = Sunday 10 May 2020
Time = starts no later than 21.00 UK time.
Track = Imola  (http://srmz.net/index.php?showtopic=485)
Race length = 30 Laps (50 minutes)
Variant = 1967
60fps patch used 60fpsV2newmod
Damage Model = Intermediate
Qualifying time = 30-45 minutes
Replay =  here (https://www.sendspace.com/file/u3ga7g)

The Juniors championship has Intermediate damage model. Every driver is permitted one reset. Each reset (irrespective of fault) must be followed by a Stop & Go in the pit lane within two laps of the incident. If a reset is required on the last lap a time penalty will be added. Failure to take a Stop & Go will result in a time penalty. Any driver taking a more than one Reset will be disqualified..
This season, races are to be run at 60 frames per second – please use the 60 fps patch

Driver lists and divisional rules including rules on car selection can be found on the Championship Standings page  (https://www.simracing.org.uk/smf/index.php?action=LM2R&group=842&theme=6)

There is no Red Zone. Moderating will be on reported incidents only. Remember that lap 1 incidents carry an additional penalty place.


Title: Re: UKGPL Season 36 (2020) 1967 F1 Junior - Imola - May 10
Post by: PaulV on May 07, 2020, 10:35:27 PM +0100
Hi Billy,

or indeed anyone who could help. Is it possible to find out what Chassis we have used and if any are still left for us to choose.
I would like to try all seven.. seems a bit of fun if nothing else.

all to easy to stick to one car isnt it. :-)

my apologies if I should have made a list..

Paul.


Title: Re: UKGPL Season 36 (2020) 1967 F1 Junior - Imola - May 10
Post by: PaulV on May 07, 2020, 10:40:05 PM +0100

Hi,

not to worry...  can go back and take a look over the previous races. No Problem. Simples.

Paul V.


Title: Re: UKGPL Season 36 (2020) 1967 F1 Junior - Imola - May 10
Post by: Billy Nobrakes on May 07, 2020, 11:06:02 PM +0100
Paul,

We did start keeping a list, but it got very fiddly to do manually & I realised I was likely to make a mistake.

If you click on the championship page you can select race by race to see which chassis you have used.


Title: Re: UKGPL Season 36 (2020) 1967 F1 Junior - Imola - May 10
Post by: Rainier on May 08, 2020, 08:30:31 AM +0100
Paul

I think you used all chassis except Honda and BRM.
of course, you have to check it.


Title: Re: UKGPL Season 36 (2020) 1967 F1 Junior - Imola - May 10
Post by: PaulV on May 08, 2020, 10:57:52 PM +0100
Thanks Billy,

Fully understand mate. just had a look all sorted. ;)

Thanks David, You were correct I have the Honda and the BRM still to go.

see you boys there.. :-\

 



Title: Re: UKGPL Season 36 (2020) 1967 F1 Junior - Imola - May 10
Post by: francesco on May 09, 2020, 07:23:40 AM +0100
I will try yo use the last car remainig for me ,the BRM.The doubt is to have all the six gears.Many time happen that online there is the lack of one gear.If not available the sixth i fail the bonus.


Title: Re: UKGPL Season 36 (2020) 1967 F1 Junior - Imola - May 10
Post by: bernie on May 09, 2020, 05:23:28 PM +0100
Can someone please register me for this , Ta !


Title: Re: UKGPL Season 36 (2020) 1967 F1 Junior - Imola - May 10
Post by: Cookie on May 09, 2020, 06:00:26 PM +0100
Can someone please register me for this , Ta !

You are registered for 55s since yesterday...

Vote for 67s Junior!


Then in 3h you will see the PW ;)


Title: Re: UKGPL Season 36 (2020) 1967 F1 Junior - Imola - May 10
Post by: bernie on May 09, 2020, 08:41:24 PM +0100
Thnx Axel I thought i did vote but will check , more importantly I cant get a race list in iGOR , are we still using it to join , if not I may need the IP & P/W for Imola please !


Title: Re: UKGPL Season 36 (2020) 1967 F1 Junior - Imola - May 10
Post by: dave curtis on May 09, 2020, 08:51:30 PM +0100
Hi Bernie,
Welcome back!

If you don't see any servers in the iGOR racelist, you may need to update your iGOR.ini config file.

The raceserver list should be:
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[ RaceListServers ]
IP                        = igor.gplrank.info


Otherwise, the UKGPL_10 IP address is in the event details post.
(Server is running for practice).

Cheers,
Dave.


Title: Re: UKGPL Season 36 (2020) 1967 F1 Junior - Imola - May 10
Post by: Cookie on May 09, 2020, 08:56:40 PM +0100
Bernie - now you are in!

You should see the race PW on top ;)


Title: Re: UKGPL Season 36 (2020) 1967 F1 Junior - Imola - May 10
Post by: bernie on May 09, 2020, 10:36:45 PM +0100
Hi Bernie,
Welcome back!

If you don't see any servers in the iGOR racelist, you may need to update your iGOR.ini config file.

The raceserver list should be:
Quote
[ RaceListServers ]
IP                        = igor.gplrank.info

Hi Dave ,  Igor.ini is OK afaict
When I launch iGOR I get an error message before the race screen comes up "could not open gplmods.ini " , clicking OK on this gives another message , "last GPL player chosen cannot be found as a players / player folder ......" click OK goes to iGor race screen , chat is on and available , the little mans face is lit , but no race list !





Otherwise, the UKGPL_10 IP address is in the event details post.
(Server is running for practice).

Cheers,
Dave.


Title: Re: UKGPL Season 36 (2020) 1967 F1 Junior - Imola - May 10
Post by: dave curtis on May 09, 2020, 11:54:16 PM +0100
Bernie,

Could be something else, but I think I've seen similar related to a corrupt/troublesome track.ini for a single track.

Maybe it's worth going into your tracks folder, then arranging the list by last modified date & check the track.ini files in the most recently updated folders.

If you find a bad egg, replace it from a backup or re-install the track.

Good luck!

Cheers,
Dave.




Title: Re: UKGPL Season 36 (2020) 1967 F1 Junior - Imola - May 10
Post by: dave curtis on May 10, 2020, 10:53:24 PM +0100
Server replay available from:  here (https://www.sendspace.com/file/u3ga7g)
Also added to event details page.


Title: Re: UKGPL Season 36 (2020) 1967 F1 Junior - Imola - May 10
Post by: Phil Thornton on May 10, 2020, 10:55:33 PM +0100
That was a hard race. Made even more difficult by having to start from the pit lane after I mistimed my normal "comfort break" and missed the start! Some great racing with the two Davids and Francesco. Grats to Billy he was miles ahead today, I got within 15 seconds of you but then I pushed to hard and made too many mistakes which dropped me all the way to the back  :(


Title: Re: UKGPL Season 36 (2020) 1967 F1 Junior - Imola - May 10
Post by: Ricardo Valim da Silva on May 10, 2020, 11:22:30 PM +0100
it was a shame to touch Eric at first, then I recovered, it was a fantastic race. Congratulations to Eric and the podium.


Title: Re: UKGPL Season 36 (2020) 1967 F1 Junior - Imola - May 10
Post by: Pepe Higdon on May 11, 2020, 01:54:11 AM +0100
I qualified fourth with a personal best in the Lotus, then watched in horror as Ricardo and Eric flew off the track after contact at the start of the long straight on L1. That put me second behind Axel, who immediately began to disappear at the rate of two to three seconds per lap. Behind me was an equally eager Andreas, but I held him off with the usual Lotus pull, until I remembered I was probably holding up the guy who was leading the Junior section of the league to date. By the time I decided I ought to stop blocking him, Eric suddenly appeared in my mirrors.

I couldn't believe it. How could a guy who looked as if he'd been dropped nearly to last place 20 seconds into the race be behind me in just six laps? Well, I figured his pole time hadn't been merely an accident, so I let him by as we came out of the last hairpin. Andreas hadn't gotten any slower either, so I let him by in the same place as we were finishing up L7. But relief for poor Pepe was not to be, for within seconds here was Ricardo climbing all over my tail. Again I tried to let him by in the same place as I'd given way to Eric and Andreas, but inadvertently slid over into the racing line. Ricardo rear-ended me, sending us both off into the weeds and dropping me down into 9th place overall. Maybe that would be the end of my miseries. I'd never belonged in that elevated company anyway.

But my woes were not yet done. Dave Curtis, behind me as we came screaming downhill to the right-hander before the second hairpin, misjudged where my rather conservative brake point was, rear-ended me, left wheels from both cars rolling around in random directions, and sent both of us to the reset switch with the usual stop-and-go. Now I was in 10th place with 20 laps remaining. Oh, how the mighty had fallen!

Suddenly a kind of peace overcame me. I cannot account for it. This track has been an extraordinarily difficult learning experience for me. I never did figure how to go into the high speed left bend on the front straight. The down-shifting method to both hairpins was yet another enigma. The hump at the top of the hill after Hairpin #1 was always a butt-clenching moment, as was trying to avoid drifting into the grass at the downhill left bend under acceleration that quickly follows. Indeed, there's hardly a corner at the entire track that doesn't ask you, "You think you know how to handle me, big boy?" And I answer, "Sorry, but I don't have a clue." Still, I somehow managed to find a separate peace with Imola as I lay third from the bottom, gradually working my way back up to fifth (where I should have started anyway but for Andreas' uncharacteristically bad qualifying time). I saw Billy, in fourth, was 33 seconds in front of me with 18 laps to go, and I managed to eat away more than half of that gap at one point. So I leave Italy in better shape than Senna and with some fond memories as well.


Title: Re: UKGPL Season 36 (2020) 1967 F1 Junior - Imola - May 10
Post by: francesco on May 11, 2020, 05:42:07 AM +0100
My race has been ruined by an incident with S&G when i was behind Andreas and Pepe.
Excluding the race story i was obliged to renounce to the BRM,there is no way to have the sixth gear online and i don't know in which way is possible to resolve the problem.Excluding me, all the pilots have used all the cars and gain 50 points so i don't see a great revolution with this method.
In my opinion is better to mantain the points system but to reintroduce the tokens ,maybe with other values to avoid the continuative use of the Brabham.


Title: Re: UKGPL Season 36 (2020) 1967 F1 Junior - Imola - May 10
Post by: francesco on May 11, 2020, 06:54:17 AM +0100
After a test a could try to use the BRM with only five gears at Jarama.There is only the straight where is used the sixth.Is a penalization but better than nothing.


Title: Re: UKGPL Season 36 (2020) 1967 F1 Junior - Imola - May 10
Post by: Rainier on May 11, 2020, 07:45:41 AM +0100

Excluding the race story i was obliged to renounce to the BRM,there is no way to have the sixth gear online and i don't know in which way is possible to resolve the problem.


I don't know if this is a good solution but why don't you try to configure your BRM setup with 5 gears ?
Of course, the best is to solve this "sixth gear issue" !


Title: Re: UKGPL Season 36 (2020) 1967 F1 Junior - Imola - May 10
Post by: francesco on May 11, 2020, 08:16:07 AM +0100
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I don't know if this is a good solution but why don't you try to configure your BRM setup with 5 gears ?
Already tested at Jarama.I'm not fast but on this track i think to be slow with all the cars.


Title: Re: UKGPL Season 36 (2020) 1967 F1 Junior - Imola - May 10
Post by: Billy Nobrakes on May 11, 2020, 10:43:47 AM +0100
Fran,
I decided not to use all 7 chassis, so I won't earn bonus points. I am not challenging for the championship & I have never worked out how to drive the Honda or the BRM. I don't always use the fastest car, I look for a car that will be reasonably competitive at the track.
Yesterday I took the Lotus, which was only about 1/10th of a second faster than my previous PB in the Brabham.
Apart from one minor spin I had solid race. Eric & Riccardo were on fire & whilst I could keep pace with Andreas in the later stages he rarely makes mistakes, so it was 4th place for me after Pepe & Fran ran into problems.
As Pepe said in his post Imola is quite a simple track but almost all the corners are challenging in different ways.

Jarama will be a different, I'm glad I'm not planning to use the BRM there.


Title: Re: UKGPL Season 36 (2020) 1967 F1 Junior - Imola - May 10
Post by: bernie on May 11, 2020, 11:33:53 AM +0100
I love Imola hate jarama , what a pity i couldn't join the fun this time , was looking forward to thrashing trashing the Coop around here , not a good start to my come back !

Loved reading Pepies report BTW


Title: Re: UKGPL Season 36 (2020) 1967 F1 Junior - Imola - May 10
Post by: francesco on May 11, 2020, 02:24:05 PM +0100
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Fran,
I decided not to use all 7 chassis, so I won't earn bonus points. I am not challenging for the championship & I have never worked out how to drive the Honda or the BRM.  .
You are right ,also for me is the same.The challeng for the championship is over for me (also without the rules of 50 points :laugh:).
Anyway the rules plus the point for the fast lap and the pole, can only increase the gap between the stronger and the weaker pilots.


Title: Re: UKGPL Season 36 (2020) 1967 F1 Junior - Imola - May 10
Post by: dave curtis on May 11, 2020, 04:02:05 PM +0100
After a test a could try to use the BRM with only five gears at Jarama.There is only the straight where is used the sixth.Is a penalization but better than nothing.

UKGPL10 is available if you want to try some online testing.

Cheers,
Dave.


Title: Re: UKGPL Season 36 (2020) 1967 F1 Junior - Imola - May 10
Post by: francesco on May 11, 2020, 04:33:55 PM +0100
Thank you Dave but since the problem is mainly random, one test could be not significant.


Title: Re: UKGPL Season 36 (2020) 1967 F1 Junior - Imola - May 10
Post by: AnGex on May 12, 2020, 04:36:08 PM +0100
... Behind me was an equally eager Andreas, but I held him off with the usual Lotus pull, until I remembered I was probably holding up the guy who was leading the Junior section of the league to date. By the time I decided I ought to stop blocking him, Eric suddenly appeared in my mirrors...



Do not worry, Pepe. In the end it was/is all fine.  ;) Was a good Race allalong.  :thumbup1:

Grats to my Podium-Mates and all Finishers aswell!


Title: Re: UKGPL Season 36 (2020) 1967 F1 Junior - Imola - May 10
Post by: Billy Nobrakes on July 09, 2020, 09:50:11 PM +0100
Moderation published.