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All members welcome.

Practice: 20:15 (15 mins)
Qualifying: 20:30 (20 mins)
Race: 20:50 (36 laps = ~40 mins)

Track: Castle Combe (with chicanes) v2.00, available from the downloads page (https://www.simracing.org.uk/index.php?pid=27)
Cars allowed: Capri, Corvette, 911
Time of Day Setting: 14:00

Server: UKGTL Ladder; in the event that the lobby is unavailable, connect using Direct IP, entering games.avonrise.co.uk in the Add IP box
Password: See this post (https://www.simracing.org.uk/smf/index.php?topic=1665.0)

Notes:
(1) It's best if all drivers can make sure they are connected before the Qualifying session as drivers on track during qualifying will not see cars that join after they are on track until they go back to the garage.
(2) Please make sure you are fully aware of the SimRacing.org.uk Rules (https://www.simracing.org.uk/index.php?pid=7). Note in particular that we will be using the new pit lane speed limiter starting procedure.
(3) General information on the ladder can be found on the series home page (https://www.simracing.org.uk/index.php?ind=lm2&group=25).
(4) The season will be run using a UKGTL carpack v1.1 (https://www.simracing.org.uk/downloads/UKGTL-skins-1.1.zip) which will need to be installed prior to racing.

Ooooooooooooooooo. I make make a guest appearance at this event  ;D

Just done a few laps around here in the Cortina. I got into the 1.14's within 10 laps. As, I think, Dave said elsewhere the 2nd chicane is way too open. Just looked at the online timing from qualifying at the last race meeting where we just happened to have some Lotus Cortinas racing. 1:26's for those guys.

See http://www.msttiming.com/singlesession.asp?table=63168qu1has&round=castlecombe.gif

Just looked at the race results (http://www.msttiming.com/result.asp?table=63168rc1has&round=castlecombe.gif) See one of the Cortinas got into the 24's

Bugger my local track and I am on holiday  :(
Have a good one chaps, cya in 2 weeks time showing off my tan  :P

Please vote in the start time poll (https://www.simracing.org.uk/smf/index.php?topic=1998.0).

Would you please tell us which cars are eligible.  As has been pointed out some of us need more practice than others.  Particularly in my case, as I demonstrated last night. :-[ :-[  One of my least favourite tracks with the choice of 3 cars I'd never raced before and I had only driven the Merc for a few laps after unlocking it (at Amateur Level) before discarding it.  A disaster waiting to happen - and it did.

Bill

Okay, I have cast the die of randomness and come up with Capri, Corvette, and 911.

Laptimes around here will be about the minute mark in these cars won't they? Would 35 laps be about right?

Dunno, you are the world record holder according to GTL Rank ;D.

I think times will vary around 1:05-1:07

And also now at Suzuka. :D

Call it 36 laps then.

I tried a couple of laps in the Pantera and couldn't get through the first corner (sorry forgotten the name - the famous one! :laugh:) at any speed, would just buck on the bump (huge dip) on the way in and car-eeeeer wildly into a spin and across 2 fields, a barn and a field of cows.

Thankfully for everyone else, I'll be on holiday and miss this one.  ;) ;D

This is what happenend to me while practicing a bit....a wheelie ;D:

Good to see you at speed at Suzuka, will be fine at Comet then. But I couldn't let you stay in first at this track, so I beat your time....twice ;)

http://video.google.nl/videoplay?docid=1131852920283725676&hl=nl    (stream)

http://www.easy-sharing.com/617453.html  (download)

Good thing you are on a holiday Shark, as the Pantera is no option here  :P ;D

LOL, how on earth did you get a GTL car and track into Stunt Driver (http://www.mobygames.com/game/stunt-driver)?! :laugh:

Ooooh, stunt driver, the nostalgy. I still know the song of the editor. Tududududududududududututututututuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuu

Important!

As per the poll results (https://www.simracing.org.uk/smf/index.php?topic=1998), we will be starting this race 15 minutes earlier than normal. We'll see what effect it has on attendence before making a decision on whether to make this new start time 'the norm'.

Was that the music from Airwolf on the Wheelie Vid 8) 8) 8) :D

yup ;D

I was thinking about taking the Vette here, but seeing as it has a high scoringmultiplier, I might go with the lowest one, the 911 :-\. I hate that car, but by the points it's the worst car of the 3.

Edit: No way am I gonna pick the 911, what a awefull awefull car. yuk :nuke:

Whats the score  ;D with different cars scoring different points?

It would seem the weapon of choice around here is the Capri, especially for you alien types ;)...there were a few doing 1:03's and 1:04's last night in praccy  :o
I managed a 1:06 in the 911 but couldnt get quicker in the Capri despite finding it alot more 'planted' and seemingly bags more power out the corners and down the straights. :-\...weird.

Holy, 1:03's. I'm not gonna take the Capri. I'll go woth the Vette, much more fun.

Some cars are better than others. If you beat a good car in a bad one you get more points and vice versa. Clear?

I'll be back for this one - should help prop the bottom of the table up.

Well that was pointless!  Managed to log in with less than a minute to go, only to find my pedals stuck with the brake to the floor.  I wish this G25 would hurry up and be released, dammit!

Disco'd after a bit of a hairy start. First time in a very long time. >:(

Man, chicken tonight ;)? I was the only Vette out there.
I was kinda pleased with my qually result.
In the beginning of the race I gained some positions by accidents infront, and I was 3rd or 4th at that time. In lap 6 I hit an invisible post in the first chicane, causing me to spin and lose a place. It was very hard to be somewhere near competitive with the Capri's and 911's, and impossible for the whole race. IMO the points need to be more in favour for this car in the future, so not this race (before people start to think wrong).
I had to start with the maximum amount of fuel, 120L. It would be enough for 40 laps, so 4 more. But I know I will need that reserve for the sliding I was about to do in that race :D.
My tyres were gone after 20 laps or so and people were starting to catch up. At some point, lap 25 otr something, I headed for T1 and all of a sudden, my engine locks up and I'm out of control. Never had that before, but after the spin I couldn't get it started anymore. And because I was in the middle of the track, I choice to throw in the towel, and no try every button to get it started again, causing mayhem in that corner.
Oh well, the race was fun, even when I was alone I had a blast throwing the yanktank around. Wish more people would give the beast a try.

Concrats to the podium finishers.

I tried to stay out of peoples way after having to rebuild half my car after a silly accident. Kept picking up stop-go's but was still ahead of the guy behind me, but after he quit and I got a third stop-go I decided to dnf and get out the way. Still the first half of the race was a real blast.

Good qually and then bad race with bad driving from me :( Sorry to the boys I hit. I shall report myself :(
Car just didn't seem to handle well in the race. Had done a dummy run in practice and was feeling confidant with that setup but come the race the back end was all over the place and I really should've drove a bit more within myself. In the end I got DQ'd ??? I noticed one cut track warning but no others.....Maybe the marshall were looking at my driving standard :P
Sorry once again :)

Had a cracking race, really enjoyed myself.

Qualied at a lowly 13th as i just couldnt get into the 1:05's despite the car feeling good. :-\

Race was excellent from start to finish, only made one error, early on, when i clipped a bollard/kerb going through the first chicane and had a spin onto grass, dropped from 7th to 12th or 13th. Then fought my way back up past people and seeing others go off throughout the race length until i got myself upto 6th place and closing on 5th with only a few laps to go.

There was only a 2.3 sec gap with a lap or two remaining but unfortunately i got held up a little by one back marker, costing me a second or so, and then blocked by another on the last lap, causing me to go into a spin to avoid rear ending him :(
Totally sure it was no fault intended, i think the guy just froze hoping i would go around him but he just chose the wrong line to do it in, no biggie. ;)...alas it allowed the Capri in front to scamper across the line un-molested. :'(

On the whole, the back markers were great, moving off line wherever possible and its a tricky track to get out the way of in some places.

Very happy to bring the Porsche home in 6th with a grid of the capris present. Great racing.  8)

I'm struggling to import the results - could [24-7]james and DMN please let me have your forum names


Edit - Worked out [24-7]james is James :)

First of all congratulations to winner LeH and second place Pero :)
Second, thank you Ruskus for the fair fight man, every time i remember we did that chicanes, side by side,
without touch each other, wow ;), great drive Ruskus.
Third, what the hell you´r thinking Minton? ??? :o
I´m not the fast guy in Ladder, but i really had some hope for this event.
I managed qual in 4th (without practice) so i choose a conservative setup (soft, for some grip in those fast corners).
When i saw you dancing all around  in my mirrors during warmup lap....i thought, carefull m8 with my rear :o
Then in 1st lap you tap me once, i managed stay on track (almost spun), next lap you tap me (harder this time)
and this time i couldnt handle to stay on track :o  :-X. I believe it was a unintentional race incident, no problem m8 :'(
Any way, i found myself in 11th place :'( fortunatly i had 34 laps to try to recover ;)
In a general way thanks all for the fairplay behavior one more time ;D

Cheers

Yeah, I remember that. I was looking behind...no Ribeiro, I was looking to the side...no Ribeiro ???. So I stayed to the left, and took the second part of the chicane so tight as possible, leaving room if you were there. After the chicane....kikeboo, there was Ribeiro ;D. It was a few times I had no idea where the guy behind was, this Vette is so blind allround. I saw lot's of interesting fights, so vid could be good.

Thats me.

Sorry if changing names caused confusion.

How many bloody times do I have to tell you lot about not discussing incidents in public? >:( >:( >:( :censored: :2guns: :hammer:

Sorry Dave, it was not my intention do that, i only posted a comment with no evil thoughts :-[,
at least by my point of view :-[
Sorry for that dave, sorry Minton :-X
And once more, sorry if my bad English sometimes................expose something weird :-[

Replay (http://ukgtl.simracing.org.uk/CastleChicaned%20-%20Ladder%20060831.zip) and Provisional Results (https://www.simracing.org.uk/index.php?ind=lm2&event=202) are now up :)


It's not a huge issue but justs holds things up a bit, especially if I can't guess  :P

Hahaha - good point - though I did place a little clue in my sig  ;)

Good racing guys, hard and fair!

Had good battles throught race. Again qualied badly...again talking to g/f on phone...had only 5 mins to qaulify. Only managed 14th being to conservative.
Was excellent race with so many but in particular, Pribero, Assissino and ruskus. Side by side for the best part of 15 laps or so.

When suskus spun i was hard into braking into T1 and couldnt avoid u dude, soz. Damaged my car in the process. I wouldve hopefully taken the two GS drivers for 3rd place but spun on what must be the "smallest most vicious curbs imaginable" :D

Excellent/fun race for me from 14th to 5th...tx

Indeed Radius, we had one  fair fight as well ;
Thank you

I was awful in the one. Car felt good in practice yesterday, and today, back end was out all over the shop, especially after the second chicane.
 Im a really sorry if i got in anyones way - i had an urge to re-create 'disney on ice' at various intervals around the track. :laugh:

Had a stupid drop in FPS again, started off with around 60/70 in qualifying, then dropped to around 25 during the race - does anyone have any ideas what this could be?

Well it was good of one of the front-runners to take a car other than the fastest for a change! :P  The points adjustment is nowhere near accurate, I just pick a car that's likely to put me in the mid-field.  There's no way the merc at the last event, which was 3 seconds a lap slower than the Healey and the Alpine, was adjusted properly.  Unless it's based on time rather than position I don't think it ever will be.  The choice of cars definately adds to the events though :)

I always try to pick one of the less good cars. I look at the scoring system, and I pick the car with the highest multiplier with which I can drive somewhat competitive. That's why last time I took the Escort and this time the Vette. My best races were with this "system". You often have to fight hard to be upfront. It's very boring and a waste of time if you lead from start till finsih, and all you do is lap others, IMO. Winning is great, but if it didn't cost a sweat, there is no satisfaction to it.

Totaly understand what your saying Ruskus but people want to drive cars they enjoy driving. At the end of the day this is a racing game and id prefer to drive a car that feels like a racing car, the Vette just feels like a poor handling heavy road car with loads of grunt.

I wanted avoid trying to rate the cars per event or per track, it would've made things too complicated. The Merc was always going to be at a disadvantage at a very twisty track like Mondello, and the Vette is bound to struggle at Combe where the two chicanes punish its large weight; members are expected to use their own initiative when picking cars for an event and take these things into account.

The Ladder is meant to be primarily fun and a 'championship' second, and I'm not going to lose sleep if a car rating isn't quite right for a specific combination.

To Dave:- i checked the rules again but couldnt find the answer, if we are lapping cars are we allowed to flash the headlights (once) to make them aware we are lapping them or is it only the car in 1st place allowed to do that?

Sometimes you come up behind a battle-ing trio of cars, or even an individual, who are probably not always aware that a lapping car has caught them. Was tempted a few times last night to give a quick indication that i wanted to pass, especially in the final laps when its usually crucial to not lose any time to the guy in front or behind, racing for position, but didnt want to seem 'arsey' by flashing, if its not in our 'sporting conduct' to do so.

Negotiating traffic is all part of the fun or trials of racing but i would have been mighty peeved if my last lap spin avoiding contact with a backmarker had cost me several places, fortunately i had a big gap to the car behind. (Again would like to state that it was a totally innocent move on the backmarkers behalf)

Can you clarify please?
ta

The rules just say "Drivers may flash their headlights (either on-off during the day or off-on during the night) to warn other drivers of their presence. However, a driver being flashed shall not be obligated to let them pass." Your use would certainly fall within those bounds; I tend to put my lights on when I'm a few seconds behind a car I'm about to lap and then turn them off as I pass, usually followed by a "thank you" flash.

The only real restriction is that a class leader is the only car allowed to run with headlights permanently on.

thanks Dave, didnt want to pee on anyone's chips  ;) ;D

I loved this race, the entire race i tried to focus very hard it was a complete hell trying to keep as fast as possible during 36 laps, the fight with Ruskus and Radius was very nice, i almost hit Ruskus car in T1, i had a lot of  fun, and im happy Leh and PR got 1st and 3rd.

For once i had no bad luck

From someone who gets lapped a lot - it very hard to tell who is coming up behind you, in both races I've done here now I think I cost the leaders time as I did not know they where lapping me. Flashing the headlights (ala FIA GT/LMS/ALMS style) makes it easyier to tell. If I am flashed I will move out of the way.

Just my 2 pennies worth.

I had a good race. I'm happy to score my first pole, and my first win in an euqal car. Race was semi-exciting, after I got two warnings already in the first 2 or 3 laps, because I came wide on the grass, once after the first chicane and once on the start/finish straight, I concentrated a lot to not make another mistake. I had some bad luck while overlapping at some point, which allowed Pero to overtake me. Pero had similar bad luck a few laps later, and I could get back in front again. A few laps later Pero made a mistake and spun, so I could go easier, and drive home my first real win.

After I crossed the finishing line, I saw some shocking scenes, which before I only saw in movies like "2001: A Space Odyssey" or "Terminator 3: Rebellion of the Machines", when computers take over control and try to kill human beings. After I crossed the line and the AI took control over my car, it immediately pulled left and rammed out Mikey Coop, who was a few meters ahead of me, and thus still in race. He spun, hit the rails a few times and came to stop in the grass. When he tried to get back on the track, the AI controlled car of Bill hit him at full speed, and smashed him against the rails once more. Heavily damaged he tried to get on the tarmac a last time, only to be finished off be Picnic's AI controlled car, which rammed him at full speed another time. It seems Mikey Coop fell back from 10th to 12th position because of the AI which ganged up on him. I never imagined something like this could happen.

I think I remember having read somewhere, that there is an option in the config file, to disable AI taking control over your car after finishing. If someone knows the name of that setting, please tell. Maybe it would make sense to require this being set for everyone, to avoid issues like this (and AI taking over world supremacy in general).

Set NO AI Control="1" in the Driving Aids section of the .PLR file. It has the added advantage that you can then pull over after the end and do doughnuts. ;) ;D :angel:

Ah good, thanks. I will try that.

If only the guys of "2001: A Space Odyssey" had had a NO AI Control="1" setting, too ...

Well that explains something for me.I didn't believe what I was seeing.

I know most of the guys who race here and when I watched the replay and saw LeH smash into me I thought something must be wrong.

Might be a good idea to do that config thing.

Anyway no harm and I've learnt something


Oilseal. Mikey Coop

Is there a dedicated server log and replay of this race please, I kinda need it if I want to make a video.

Go to the SRou homepage and click the "UKGTL Replays" link on the left.

Unofficial Lapchart (http://www.lapcharts.teamshark.org.uk/Lapcharts/CastleChicaned.htm)

Working now!

The Team Shark website is having a hissy fit.

Team Shark website working again.

Here is this race's video:

Megaupload (http://www.megaupload.com/?d=XH1J8M8S)

Google video (http://video.google.nl/videoplay?docid=-2849596812587516901)

What do you guys prefer, a download (megaupload) or a stream version (goog video)?

Google video!!!!  O0 :punk:

Yeah, I prefer to Google my videos too... ;D

Eventhough the resolution is lower and words cannot be read?

Yes, personally I hate mass upload websites, they SUCK big time.  :P

I agree completely, but the low resolution on Google is worse.  If only we could get the doofy advertisers to PAY US for wasting our time and bandwidth, maybe they would go away and the world would be a better place.  While we're waiting, though, perhaps having both streaming and huge videos avaible is the best way to go.

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