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Title: UKGTL Ladder - GTC-65 @ Nurburgring GP - 14th September
Post by: Simon Gymer on September 03, 2006, 05:52:40 PM +0100
All members welcome.

Please make sure you have skin pack 1.2, as per note 4 below

Practice: 20:15 (15 mins)
Qualifying: 20:30 (20 mins)
Race: 20:50 (16 laps = ~40 mins)
Track: Nurburgring GP
Cars allowed: TVR Griffith 400 (rating - 13.6), Lotus Elan (rating - 13.1), Chevrolet Corvette '65 (rating - 13.0), Shelby Daytona Coupé (rating - 13.0)
Time of Day Setting: 14:00

Server: UKGTL Ladder; in the event that the lobby is unavailable, connect using Direct IP, entering games.avonrise.co.uk in the Add IP box
Password: See this post (https://www.simracing.org.uk/smf/index.php?topic=1665.0)

Notes:
(1) It's best if all drivers can make sure they are connected before the Qualifying session as drivers on track during qualifying will not see cars that join after they are on track until they go back to the garage.
(2) Please make sure you are fully aware of the SimRacing.org.uk Rules (https://www.simracing.org.uk/index.php?pid=7). Note in particular that we will be using the new pit lane speed limiter starting procedure.
(3) General information on the ladder can be found on the series home page (https://www.simracing.org.uk/index.php?ind=lm2&group=25).
(4) The season will be run using a UKGTL carpack v1.2 (https://www.simracing.org.uk/downloads/UKGTL-skins-1.2.zip) which will need to be installed prior to racing.


Title: Re: UKGTL Ladder - GTC-65 @ Nurburgring GP - 14th September
Post by: Jeffrey on September 08, 2006, 11:58:02 AM +0100
Hope this race will be good, because I have an awesome song and musicvideo to use. If all goes well, this video will be "disturbed" 8).


Title: Re: UKGTL Ladder - GTC-65 @ Nurburgring GP - 14th September
Post by: will16v on September 10, 2006, 12:12:23 PM +0100
May give the '65 Vette a run here  ::)


Title: Re: UKGTL Ladder - GTC-65 @ Nurburgring GP - 14th September
Post by: LeH on September 13, 2006, 07:12:30 PM +0100
I have tried the Elan here, but I must say I don't like cars with front-wheel drive and rear-wheel steering so much.

Here is a little video of my tests: http://www.severe-chaos.de/files/Elan_front-wheel_drive_-_rear-wheel_steering.wmv (63 MB)

 ;)


Title: Re: UKGTL Ladder - GTC-65 @ Nurburgring GP - 14th September
Post by: Aagramn on September 13, 2006, 08:02:49 PM +0100
Interesting technique.  :D

How did you get more than one reverse gear?

Edit: never realised you could change the reverse gear ratio in the garage. Just got a Corvette to do 120MPH backwards.  :D


Title: Re: UKGTL Ladder - GTC-65 @ Nurburgring GP - 14th September
Post by: JonM_uk on September 13, 2006, 08:23:16 PM +0100
Nice one :D


Title: Re: UKGTL Ladder - GTC-65 @ Nurburgring GP - 14th September
Post by: Rob Clenshaw on September 13, 2006, 08:51:48 PM +0100
Think I'm going to try the Elan. I've been having a lot of fun practicing with it.


Title: Re: UKGTL Ladder - GTC-65 @ Nurburgring GP - 14th September
Post by: Simon Gymer on September 14, 2006, 09:17:43 AM +0100
I have tried the Elan here, but I must say I don't like cars with front-wheel drive and rear-wheel steering so much.

Fantastic LeH!
That cheered me on this dreary morning.


Title: Re: UKGTL Ladder - GTC-65 @ Nurburgring GP - 14th September
Post by: Adam Parle on September 14, 2006, 09:45:47 AM +0100
Superb video.  Cheers for that!


Title: Re: UKGTL Ladder - GTC-65 @ Nurburgring GP - 14th September
Post by: JohnnyDee on September 14, 2006, 06:35:44 PM +0100
LMAO, that was great, Le!!

     -=> J <=-


Title: Re: UKGTL Ladder - GTC-65 @ Nurburgring GP - 14th September
Post by: Aagramn on September 14, 2006, 09:02:51 PM +0100
Taking the Corvette was a mistake. I was struggling to stop it from swapping ends into T1 so decided to quit.


Title: Re: UKGTL Ladder - GTC-65 @ Nurburgring GP - 14th September
Post by: Rob Clenshaw on September 14, 2006, 09:10:13 PM +0100
I was ploughing along steadily until I lost connection to the server briefly and it was race over :(


Title: Re: UKGTL Ladder - GTC-65 @ Nurburgring GP - 14th September
Post by: Mark J on September 14, 2006, 09:26:10 PM +0100
Sorry i had to bale early, had only just got GTL up and running on new pc about 5 mins before race start  :o  Was trying to configure controller, FF etc on the fly and was struggling to concentrate.

Then remembered the Hammers were on the telly in UEFA cup and so left pronto ;)


Title: Re: UKGTL Ladder - GTC-65 @ Nurburgring GP - 14th September
Post by: Mooman117 on September 14, 2006, 09:39:13 PM +0100
Good race guys. Span on the warm up lap for second week in a row :( but it makes the race more fun, at least in the beginning.

Not going to be racing for about 2-3 weeks as I'm off into hospital :-\

Grats to poduim.


Title: Re: UKGTL Ladder - GTC-65 @ Nurburgring GP - 14th September
Post by: Simon Gymer on September 14, 2006, 09:45:14 PM +0100
GTC-65s still have my vote as the most fun to drive class.

Had a good battle with the top Elan runners for the first few laps and with Johnny Dee closing in in the Daytona I was hoping us Elans would stop fighting with each other as we were just slowing each other up. Got a bit lonely in the middle as i could not keep pace with the Elans ahead of me once they spread out.

Then very slowly LeH caught me up after his spin in the first half of the race. Had a good battle for a few laps near the end. Good racing LeH. After you made a big mistake into T1 on the last lap I thought I had you. I only just got through on T1 as I foolishly put it in 1st to get more acceleration and got the most almight tank slapper  :tank: :wetfish:. No idea how I held that. Then coming down to the hairpin with you right behind I just couldn't hold it and span round. Not sure what the outcome would have been if that hadn't happened as you were slower down the straight somehow and only faster in one of the left handers and probably the stupid chicane near the end.

Anyway, not a bad result. I don't have time to practice GTL so it's dive straight in any week i race. Nurb is quite a good track I think, loads of width to the track like Brno really helps keep the racing safer.

Well done teamie on the win btw!!  ;D


Title: Re: UKGTL Ladder - GTC-65 @ Nurburgring GP - 14th September
Post by: Jeffrey on September 14, 2006, 09:46:26 PM +0100
I was in a dilemma at the start, TVR or Daytona ???. I went for the Shelby as it is a more raw car and can be a bit more forgiving when throw around.

This afternoon I did 1 lap in the Daytona and it was a 2:22, so when I got a 2:19.5 I was quite happy as I thought that eventhough it was just 1 lap practice, I couldn't get much off. Guess I was wrong.

The beginning of the race went well for me, I was pulling away slowly from Pero as he was in a fight with a whole nation of Elans behind him. When he was loose of that train, he came closer and closer. From 4.1s to 1.3s. I could keep that gap for a few laps, but I was struggling with my car at the end. The tyres were not that bad at 3/4 of the race, the brakes were. I was braking before my normal brakemark and when I pressed the brake fully (without locking up) I still went wide, which required some handbrake action at the hairpins.
Pero came withing 0.4s behind at the last quarter of the race, and I thought as I was doomed, because there was nothing I could do with my car anymore. Luckily for me he went wide in the Audi curve which gave me 4s for the last 2 laps. Without that I wouldn't have won. The last 2 laps were just trying not to fok up.

The first half of the race was quite boring, but the second half was interesting again, which made it a tough race after all.

Wish there could be more cars like this in races ;D


Title: Re: UKGTL Ladder - GTC-65 @ Nurburgring GP - 14th September
Post by: Pero_Grozni on September 14, 2006, 09:47:00 PM +0100
Good race - it was a race of almosts for me.
Firstly I almost got pol position, but wasnt to be. I couldnt combine one good lap although I lost 0,6 sec on one split on my best time - on best splits I would get into the 2:18's
Than I made a bad start to the race when I got passed and couldnt repas quickly enough so Ruskus could get some gap. After I finnaly was able to pass I didnt really get into my stride at first, but than I started to put down some very quick laps and was starting to catch Ruskus. Three laps from the end I was right behind him and ready to start my attack, but than I lost it into the fast uphil S and almost had a crash - even got onto the gravel. Again one of the stupid mistakes I have been doing recently - I wanted too much and than lost control so strangly - I normaly would have cought that slide no problem whatsoever, but not this time. Than there was not enough time to catch up again so I settled for second. I am quite happy to have gone with the Daytona - it was again V8 fun. Got the fastest race lap though which is good.  :)
But I dont like the track as it is terrible on the FPS and I was struggeling in some corners.


Title: Re: UKGTL Ladder - GTC-65 @ Nurburgring GP - 14th September
Post by: pribeiro on September 14, 2006, 09:47:11 PM +0100
Congratulations Ruskus, Pero and Minton, i hope the order is correct 8) :thumbup2: :notworthy:
Nice fight with team mates ASSASSINO and JohnnyDee :) :yes:
Sorry Johnny, for the tap that made you spun :oops: :hang:
I had a stop and go, after the 1st cut (only one :wacko:)

Thanks all, see you next race ;)


Title: Re: UKGTL Ladder - GTC-65 @ Nurburgring GP - 14th September
Post by: Adam Parle on September 14, 2006, 09:50:09 PM +0100
Really enjoyable race for me. Probably my most consistent race with you guys ever.  Didn't spin, only ran wide on a few occasions.

The race start was pretty much as expected, sat in an Elan with a TVR infront and one behind.  Dave shot past me after the flag dropped, and I carried on following him round for a good number of laps.  Got a bit excited on one of the early laps, almost had contact, fortunately I just slid past Dave's nose, and he went by again (EDIT - actually, looking at the replay I just cocked up the exit, it was a clean pass, just thought it was a bit closer at the time). Got close on a few more occasions before getting past, with Dave spinning as he caught me up going into the final chicane.  After that it was pretty lonely for a while, but then I seemed to be making up big chunks of ground on BigG.  Finally got back into a tussle in the last 5-10 mins, when I was trying to keep up with PRibeiro after he came out of the pits and BigG spun at T1.  Never had a real chance of getting by the muscle car, and finished a second or two behind, and well happy with 13th place.

Cheers all for the race - Ruskus, looking forward to the highlights! ;D


Title: Re: UKGTL Ladder - GTC-65 @ Nurburgring GP - 14th September
Post by: Jeffrey on September 14, 2006, 10:04:35 PM +0100
when I was trying to keep up with a Cobra that had spun and was trying to get away.

Ban the guy who drove that car :P

Cheers all for the race - Ruskus, looking forward to the highlights! ;D

I'm reading through the debriefs of people to see where the footage is. So please help me out and mention good things  :-*
 But I'll be working on the plane tomorrow again, so it won't be finished anytime soon.



Title: Re: UKGTL Ladder - GTC-65 @ Nurburgring GP - 14th September
Post by: pribeiro on September 14, 2006, 10:09:40 PM +0100
BTW 
http://www.driftlive.com/?p=351
enjoy :punk:


Title: Re: UKGTL Ladder - GTC-65 @ Nurburgring GP - 14th September
Post by: Adam Parle on September 14, 2006, 10:09:48 PM +0100

I'm reading through the debriefs of people to see where the footage is. So please help me out and mention good things  :-*
 But I'll be working on the plane tomorrow again, so it won't be finished anytime soon.


Sorry, that just won't do!  :P  I'll have a look through the server replay once it's up - my replay is rubbish.


Title: Re: UKGTL Ladder - GTC-65 @ Nurburgring GP - 14th September
Post by: Radius on September 14, 2006, 10:16:21 PM +0100
hmmm missed race tonight, had to work late :(

Sounds like it was fun.

grats to all!!!

see u r a turkey, i mean...see u in turkey :P

Rad


Title: Re: UKGTL Ladder - GTC-65 @ Nurburgring GP - 14th September
Post by: Dave 'Gizmo' Gymer on September 14, 2006, 10:25:09 PM +0100
Quite a good race for me at either end with a really frustrating patch in the middle. With no practice whatsoever I plumped fior the TVR a it's the only one of these cars I know at all. Bumped up the tyre pressures just before the race to try and stop them overheating and for once a last minute setup change didn't end in disaster. :laugh:

Not surprisingly I was off like a rocket past Adam's Elan, and then had to concentrate really hard on making myself wide into and through the turns, getting good exits, and not leaving the door open for the nimble Elan to get inside under braking. The battle was briefly interrupted by Mooman as he came steaming back through. Went well for a few laps, despite Adam getting up the inside at the hairpin I toughed it out round the outside and used my superior power to get back past into the uphill S. Eventually he made it stick but I was still in the fight until I stupidly snatched the rears under braking for the final chicane and spun, having to wait for pretty much everyone to go past before rejoining.

Thus began my frustrating phase where I was not a happy camper, but slowly I regained my composer, and then suddenly, at about half distance, as the fuel load dropped off the car really came good and I was shaving .6 or .7s off my laptimes each lap. That was closing me up behind Smiler and Mike Cooper pretty rapidly, and gaining some ground back on Adam too, although there weren't enough laps to stand any realistic chance of getting that place back unless he went off.

Smiler chucked it into the kitty litter at the hairpin so that left me a clear shot at relieving Oilseal of a place by swapping our orange TVRs. After a lap or two he made a small mistake and that was enough for me to get through; at first I could open up a little gap, but with 2 to go my tyres were utterly shot from my earlier efforts to make up time and I was really struggling in turn 1, with Mike all over me in the twisties. Again, I had to concentrate hard to avoid leaving big inviting open doors, and getting good exit speed, but this time it paid off and I managed to pull out enough of a gap on the fast straights to remove his chance of getting the place back.

Glad the race wasn't any longer 'cause I'd have been in real trouble on those melting boots!


Title: Re: UKGTL Ladder - GTC-65 @ Nurburgring GP - 14th September
Post by: Minton on September 14, 2006, 10:29:41 PM +0100
Great race, Made a good start and managed to pass Leh into the second corner and Pero soon after . Couldnt stay with Ruskus and soon Pero passed when had got his rythem back.  Had a gap of 1.5 secs back to Baracus but made a mistake at the chicane and he passed me, we then had a great battle for the next 3 or 4 laps until he lost it at the chicane, nice on Baracus that was great fun. Kept it consistant till the end of the race to bring it home third again.
Grats to Ruskus and Pero.


Title: Re: UKGTL Ladder - GTC-65 @ Nurburgring GP - 14th September
Post by: Aagramn on September 14, 2006, 10:37:42 PM +0100
Replay (http://ukgtl.simracing.org.uk/N%FCrburgring%20GP%20Ladder%20060914.zip) and provisional results (https://www.simracing.org.uk/index.php?ind=lm2&event=204) up. Congrats on the win Ruskus.  :thumbup1:


Title: Re: UKGTL Ladder - GTC-65 @ Nurburgring GP - 14th September
Post by: Jeffrey on September 15, 2006, 12:20:19 AM +0100


Unofficial Lapchart (http://www.lapcharts.teamshark.org.uk/Lapcharts/GPNuerburgring GTC65 14-09-2006.htm)


Title: Re: UKGTL Ladder - GTC-65 @ Nurburgring GP - 14th September
Post by: LeH on September 15, 2006, 12:35:16 AM +0100
That was not my race. First I was surprised that the Shelbys were that fast. I was distinctly faster with the Griffith and Elan, than with the Shelby and Vette while testing. Also my times had been fast enough so I should have been able to keep up with the leaders. I also thought the Elan's tyres would last longer, to give me an advantage at the end. But well ... strategies are one part and the race is an other ...  :)

Dan Minton totally surprised my already at turn two in the first lap. I completely didn't expect him being next to me (because I could open a gap to him at the start, and didn't feel I took T1 too slow) and when I pulled inside I almost rolled over sideways after I touched him. Looking at the replay, I would say it was a hard but fair maneuver from him, but I lost already 2 positions there. After some good and clean fighting in the next laps, I touched Mad-RIP who braked a bit early into a corner, because he was in the middle of a fight with Dan. This ended in a spin for me and I lost 2 more positions.

Being 7th now, I could slowly catch up to Shark, but it took me until the last third of the race, until I was close enough to try to attack him a bit. Like Shark already said, somehow I couldn't really keep up on the straights, tho we were both in an Elan. I finally could pass him once, after he made a little mistake going into the Müllenbach-section. Therefor he got me again a few laps later when I almost spun in T1. Unfortunately for him, he lost his back braking into a corner in the last lap and I could pass again. Without a mistake on his side I don't think I would have made it. So I got 6th with luck.

Grats to the podium.


Title: Re: UKGTL Ladder - GTC-65 @ Nurburgring GP - 14th September
Post by: Madd-RIP on September 15, 2006, 07:00:36 AM +0100
Damn good race  ;D had a good run on Shark at the start nearly got past but couldn't make it stick initially, but eventually got past and then had a whale of a time against Minton, Leh and Baracus, I seemed able to close under braking in the hairpins but just could not pass, , lost concentration on lap 13? and spun into T1, I think, wife was nagging me about being late for work, was like having a co-driver in the seat next to me giving me all the wrong directions!!  >:(

Still no matter, one of the better ones and even had fuel left at the end!!  :P

And as a extra suprise blew my pb out of the water! 3rd fastest wooohooo!!! :thumbup2:


Title: Re: UKGTL Ladder - GTC-65 @ Nurburgring GP - 14th September
Post by: Dave 'Gizmo' Gymer on September 15, 2006, 07:34:31 AM +0100
Replay (http://ukgtl.simracing.org.uk/N%FCrburgring%20GP%20Ladder%20060914.zip) and provisional results (https://www.simracing.org.uk/index.php?ind=lm2&event=204) up.
Unofficial Lapchart (http://www.lapcharts.teamshark.org.uk/Lapcharts/GPNuerburgring GTC65 14-09-2006.htm)

Thanks guys. 8)


Title: Re: UKGTL Ladder - GTC-65 @ Nurburgring GP - 14th September
Post by: Minton on September 15, 2006, 10:05:31 AM +0100
Was wondering who that was in the yellow Elan, you seem to be always in my mirrors Madd. Great time 1.3 secs quicker than your quali time !


Title: Re: UKGTL Ladder - GTC-65 @ Nurburgring GP - 14th September
Post by: Andy Charman on September 15, 2006, 12:19:06 PM +0100
Not been driving GTL lately. It showed!
Had a really good battle for 16th place for most of the race with MJonso, DGymer and Mcoop.
Was just lining up for a pass on mcoop when I over did it on a bend and hit the gravel!
Puncture. Tried to get back to the pits with the flat but got a stop and go penalty for cutting the chicane.
So I quit. Good fun tho.
Haven't been around lately.
Forgotten how fast and cosistent you lot are!
See you again soon.

(smiler) ;D


Title: Re: UKGTL Ladder - GTC-65 @ Nurburgring GP - 14th September
Post by: Madd-RIP on September 15, 2006, 12:26:05 PM +0100
Was wondering who that was in the yellow Elan, you seem to be always in my mirrors Madd. Great time 1.3 secs quicker than your quali time !
Made a little tweak to setup but next session stopped my fastest quali.....bloody typical  :oops:
As for seeing my car all the time........well I do try to keep you honest!!!!  :P
Fine race though Dan, and to pesky Baracus  ;D

Never really got on with the Elan before now, nifty little car though.........I'll have to do a skin  ;D


Title: Re: UKGTL Ladder - GTC-65 @ Nurburgring GP - 14th September
Post by: Dave 'Gizmo' Gymer on September 15, 2006, 12:59:49 PM +0100
Was just lining up for a pass on mcoop when I over did it on a bend and hit the gravel!

Impressive set of skid marks you left from that! :D


Title: Re: UKGTL Ladder - GTC-65 @ Nurburgring GP - 14th September
Post by: baracus250gt on September 15, 2006, 03:40:19 PM +0100
That was a great race all the way. I made the fatal setup tweak before the race trying to make it a bit easier to keep in a straight line, which worked but gave me a bit of unexpected understeer on the exits, which got worse but I adapted to it after a few laps.

Had some great 3 way dicing as mentioned, nipping down the inside of each other, which started on Turn 2 and didn't stop!

Spent a bit too much time looking in my mirrors when found may way into 3rd - and lost it at the last chicane (caught me out and I lurched off to the left with nothing I could do) - but I should have stayed 3rd really.  :/

Grats to everyone for a very consistent hard race.

See you soon


Title: Re: UKGTL Ladder - GTC-65 @ Nurburgring GP - 14th September
Post by: 1p on September 16, 2006, 01:34:14 PM +0100
does anyone no why i coudnt join nurburgring race? It would load track and then got to the 7th or 8th person on track and then would crash.  I have skins installed and tried restartin pc but still no joy. It seemed 2 be as soon as it tried 2 load shark for sum reason.

So anyway gave up tryin and and threw pc out the window.


Title: Re: UKGTL Ladder - GTC-65 @ Nurburgring GP - 14th September
Post by: Adam Parle on September 16, 2006, 02:38:49 PM +0100
does anyone no why i coudnt join nurburgring race? It would load track and then got to the 7th or 8th person on track and then would crash.  I have skins installed and tried restartin pc but still no joy. It seemed 2 be as soon as it tried 2 load shark for sum reason.

So anyway gave up tryin and and threw pc out the window.

If it's constantly reloading a player - I'm guessing you haven't installed the latest car pack.  I had the same problem a while back when I'd forgotten to install it.


Title: Re: UKGTL Ladder - GTC-65 @ Nurburgring GP - 14th September
Post by: 1p on September 16, 2006, 11:19:16 PM +0100
no it wasnt reloading player it just crashed and returned 2 desktop as soon as it tried 2 load shark


Title: Re: UKGTL Ladder - GTC-65 @ Nurburgring GP - 14th September
Post by: Simon Gymer on September 16, 2006, 11:32:11 PM +0100
no it wasnt reloading player it just crashed and returned 2 desktop as soon as it tried 2 load shark

Still, might be a carpack problem. I was driving the Team Shark skinned Lotus Elan. Try purchasing the Team Shark Elan and using it offline, just to make sure that the car isn't a problem on your machine.


Title: Re: UKGTL Ladder - GTC-65 @ Nurburgring GP - 14th September
Post by: Jeffrey on September 18, 2006, 10:00:41 AM +0100
VIDEO

This video took me quite a few hours to make. Finding the right footage in a field of 20+ is already lot's of work, but the other main issue was that this is the first video I've made with Adobe Premiere pro 2. So I also had to figure out the program as I went along.

I love the song I used for this vid. It's a cover from the Genesis song "Land of Confusion".

38.2MB
4:50min

Megaupload (http://www.megaupload.com/?d=63NQSIZH)

Google Video (http://video.google.nl/videoplay?docid=-2018784204703957478)


Title: Re: UKGTL Ladder - GTC-65 @ Nurburgring GP - 14th September
Post by: Adam Parle on September 18, 2006, 10:53:20 AM +0100
Cheers Ruskus - another first rate vid there (don't remember there being THAT many Elans tho  :wacko:)


Title: Re: UKGTL Ladder - GTC-65 @ Nurburgring GP - 14th September
Post by: Madd-RIP on September 18, 2006, 11:01:22 AM +0100
Well Smart vid  ;D, probably one of the most enjoyable races I've done from my pov.


Title: Re: UKGTL Ladder - GTC-65 @ Nurburgring GP - 14th September
Post by: Rob Clenshaw on September 18, 2006, 11:06:30 AM +0100
Nicely done :)


Title: Re: UKGTL Ladder - GTC-65 @ Nurburgring GP - 14th September
Post by: Simon Gymer on September 18, 2006, 12:29:11 PM +0100
Fabulous Jeff!
Loved the little comic book type popups to go with the song.

Who is doing the cover of Land of Confusion?


Title: Re: UKGTL Ladder - GTC-65 @ Nurburgring GP - 14th September
Post by: Jeffrey on September 18, 2006, 01:07:12 PM +0100
Fabulous Jeff!
Loved the little comic book type popups to go with the song.

Who is doing the cover of Land of Confusion?

Disturbed - Land of Confusion

Just like the end credits say :P


Title: Re: UKGTL Ladder - GTC-65 @ Nurburgring GP - 14th September
Post by: Simon Gymer on September 18, 2006, 01:49:37 PM +0100
Disturbed - Land of Confusion

Just like the end credits say :P

Cheers. Sorry I couldn't read the credits on Google Video cause of the quality issues.  :D