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Welcome to the first Round of the Srou Formula Easter Championship.
For this round we are off to Sunny Croatia and the fabulous Grobnik circuit, this is most certainly a high speed course as you'll find - but also has a few technical (but still fast) sections to cause you trouble.

Don't forget the skinpack! - found further down this post under the picture.

(https://i.postimg.cc/TYzRJWc3/Grobnik-V1.png)

Password: see above (#post_event_password)

ALL TIMES ARE BST
Practice: 19:30 (45 mins)
Qual: 20:15 (15 mins)
Race: 20:30  (2x 20 mins - 2nd race is reversed grid)
(20mins plus 1 lap each race)

Complete car pack download can be found here:
https://www.dropbox.com/s/ink98yqcz20i7ca/Srou%20Formula%20Easter%20cars.rar?dl=0 (https://www.dropbox.com/s/ink98yqcz20i7ca/Srou%20Formula%20Easter%20cars.rar?dl=0)
If you extract the RAR into your Assetto Corsa directory and let it overwrite, then everything should end up in the right place :)

The following cars are available - note that the Estonia 21 will be an older version of the Mod (V1.0.3), this is because the current version - while more accurate to real life - is heavily under powered compared to the rest of the field. See post #8 if you took part in the brands fun races but have not updated the Estonia yet:
https://www.dropbox.com/s/6pv084sa39qgvio/estonia_21%20V1.1.2.rar?dl=0 (https://www.dropbox.com/s/6pv084sa39qgvio/estonia_21%20V1.1.2.rar?dl=0)

SKIN PACK! You will need the 2 following skins for this series (otherwise Fabri and Barone will be in boring white cars!):
https://www.mediafire.com/file/ah8s27ijqhpmqcq/28_FabriFibra.rar/file (https://www.mediafire.com/file/ah8s27ijqhpmqcq/28_FabriFibra.rar/file)
https://www.mediafire.com/file/03zpwyykcv9sk5q/69_Barone.rar/file (https://www.mediafire.com/file/03zpwyykcv9sk5q/69_Barone.rar/file)


Cars allowed:

Avia AE2
( avia_ae2 and avia_ae2_r2 )

Estonia 20

Estonia 21

Metalex MTX1-03
includes all MTX1-03b and MTX1-03c variants)

Metalex MTX1-06

Melkus MT77

RAF 80


Track: Grobnik

Download link: https://www.racedepartment.com/downloads/automotodrom-grobnik.4835/ (https://www.racedepartment.com/downloads/automotodrom-grobnik.4835/)

I'm using a 'summer' skin from RD - You can find it here if interested: https://www.racedepartment.com/downloads/grobnik-summer.31284/ (https://www.racedepartment.com/downloads/grobnik-summer.31284/)
If you use content manager then you presumably know how to add it (I don't use it!).
Without Content manager you can add the files from the Summer folder created in 'skins' in the track directory to the 'default' directory and over-write as you go. Worked for me :) This shouldn't cause any mismatched as the KN5 isn't touched. (This test server should prove/disprove that!)

Live Timing: stracker.simracing.org.uk:50041/lapstat (http://stracker.simracing.org.uk:50041/lapstat)

Time of Day Setting: 11:30
Weather: Clear
Start: Standing
Tyre wear: Normal
Fuel consumption: Normal
Pit-stops: Not required

Server track settings:
SESSION_START=100
RANDOMNESS=0
LAP_GAIN=0
SESSION_TRANSFER=N/a

Damage: 70%

Password: see above

PLP App - Not used in this series. Cutting will be monitored on replay and penalties issued for excessive cutting.

A practice server has been started using the Sunday Server slot - this will be available Monday through Friday until the Wednesday server becomes available full time.

Please use this to fine tune your car choices ready for the season :)

Any difference between the cars?

Rejoining us for this one Jeffrey? ;D
The cars are similar in pace but do differ in setup options and handling - unless ACC has broken you then can I ask that you don't pick an AE2 or MTX1-06 given that you're normally a front runner :)

If you prefer pointy cars then maybe consider the MTX1-03 or Estonia 20 (1-03 is probably better on fast tracks, 20 seems better on slow tracks) .
More neutral I'd say are Estonia 21 and Melkus, both favour hi-speed circuits.
RAF80 tends towards understeer although some guys were saying at Riverside that it had a very good top speed - it's biggest weakness is accelerating through (very) high speed turns, although I haven't gone crazy enough playing with the setup yet to see if that can be cured..

Hopefully you'll enjoy these as much as we have in the test races and hang about for the season!

I completely forgot about this place  :-[. Will give them a try, but I'm looking for something to pick up and drive.

These are pretty much pick up & drive, get gearing right and you good to go....not sure 'bout speed tho but fun factor is granted.

Tried the mod, it's a no.

Try it against other real drivers and you might change your mind - they're too slow to fully enjoy on their own ;)

I think theres wrong version of Estonia 21 on server, though that we use older with 4-speed gearbox and more usefull engine...

I've changed it to the other one, hopefully this one is correct.

Thx, it's ok now.

Hello.If possible.count me in whit Melkus #95

Seems like server is down, possibly turned off for acc again?

Or at least it's not showing for me in the lobby. Maybe the car you changed is making it somehow incompatible?

Edit:
That was the reason. I redownloaded the mod and unrared it to my AC install, and the server showed up in the lobby.

Nope, deffinately still up - I just joined it to check  :)
Make sure you search for '.org.uk' and you'll always find it

Was off for me tonight too, greyed out  :-\

Have you got the latest version of the cars installed? I downloaded it yesterday lunchtime and I got on the server ok last night

didn't know there had been a car update since we last installed these cars. Do I need to reinstall them all again?

Maybe you need the other version of Estonia 21. There are 2 version of this car.

Reply number 8 in the announcement thread has a link to the older version of the Estonia 21 of you only need that. The big download in post 1 already includes it.

Edit- I've now highlighted the pre-existing text in the series announcement so people actually read it

I reinstalled the full set and joined the server, so all good. Then read post about the Estonia afterwards  :P
Nice track this, had never heard of it.  :)

what sort of wings are people using? I have mine on default at the moment

I'm running fairly low wings. I tried none and while the car is fast, it isn't 'racey' as it isn't precise enough to fight in traffic.

More wing front than back seems the way to go here - for car's that have fixed front wings that just means reducing the rear wing until it become too nervous ;)

I've just updated the 1st post in this thread with the last/latest of the joining info - we're up to 20 drivers now, although I know not all can make tomorrow night sadly.

To re-iterate on car skins you'll need the following if you haven't done so already:

https://www.mediafire.com/file/03zpwyykcv9sk5q/69_Barone.rar/file (https://www.mediafire.com/file/03zpwyykcv9sk5q/69_Barone.rar/file)
https://www.mediafire.com/file/ah8s27ijqhpmqcq/28_FabriFibra.rar/file (https://www.mediafire.com/file/ah8s27ijqhpmqcq/28_FabriFibra.rar/file)

Otherwise you'll just see yet more white AE2's!

Where do you put the skins?

Your steam directory/content/cars/Avia AE2/skins if I remember correctly.
The Avia directory might be spelt slightly differently, just make sure you don't put them in the R2 car folder!

Not sure if I will make the race guys. It is my daughters birthday today and altough I expect all the quests to be gone by the time our race starts, there is a possibility I will be running late.
Then as it is a 2 heat format, am I allowed in for the 2nd heat if I miss the first one?

I don't see why not if you're back in time.
All I'd ask is that if you don't have a setup or know your way around the circuit then consider starting from the pit to avoid any nasty lap 1 incidents. :)

On the subject of incidents we have a very good sized grid tonight so the risk is high. Please try and race safely especially in race 2.
If you're a slower driver being caught and are happy to be passed don't go dancing all over the road trying to make space in any location you feel unsafe doing so, or just as a car catches you.
A faster car will find its own way if they decide to pass on a corner or braking zone, if you stay on the line and stay predictable then accidents are fair less likely!

For this to remain fun we need to stay aware of the rules and each other, I'd rather not have to put my moderators hat on but would also rather that any dodgy driving is reported so we can improve future races.

For anyone who doesn't have it I'd recommend helicorsa, which you can find on Racedepartment. That should help make sure you know where surrounding cars are.

Wont make the fun race tonight not a fan of these cars.

I would also recommend 'Crewchief V4' as it has a good spotter who can tell you if a car is still alongside or 'clear'  :)

Odd on the low wings, I found I was slower the lower wing I went and watching my speed on the long straight it was like it was stalling and losing km/h  :-\ 

I actually did some aero/load testing on the drag strip experimenting with different ride height/rake, spring and rear wing settings to give me a base line setup. I found that there seems to be some ground effect in play (at least with the Melkus) and that rake/height made a difference to load values at the rear axle, so rear wing loading at higher speeds will also affect that.

I gained a second/lap at Grobnik on the same rear wing setting as I'd been testing with before and then found that decreasing the wing made me slower and obviously less stable overall. Could all be bollox of course and I'm still dog slow but it killed a couple of hours.

Spring and shock settings plus roll bars, gears, diff and driving style all play their part.
My silly fast lap had no rear wing (front is fixed on the 1-03) but was using my test setup from Riverside - I'd spent some time on that as more wing was always slower due to the huge straight.
And I like it loose of course :)

Just spotted this Bob - it's not a fun race, it's the start of next/this season!

Bob I'll share my estonia 20 setup if it helps persuade you to join ;D

Thanks very much for the offers, to be truthful got things getting in the way just now, hate to miss my Wed night fix but hopefully be back up and bringing up the rear in a couple of weeks. Have a good couple of races tonight, cheers.

ok  :)


offer still stands for future weeks...

I'll give it one more round.  If driving standards don't improve, I'm out.

Adam (and anyone else for that matter).
Please report any incidents or instances of dodgy driving via the incident report button under the relevant race.

If it isn't reported, I don't see it. If I don't see it, I don't moderate it, and whoever has done something stupid won't have any reason to improve (assuming it wasn't a legit mistake - I saw more of those tonight than I've seen in the last 6 months!)

If you don't have a replay to hand then please shout, either myself or someone else can share their own for you to work from (Preferably someone else as I'd have to take the car pack down to host a race replay most likely).



Very frantic and close racing for me. Lucked out in race one after constantly messing up my qualifying laps - 1st clear lap once in the lead of the race and I managed a time that was good for 2nd on the grid ::)
All of that was down to the misfortunes of others though.

Race 2 initially started well I thought, although I've yet to see why a RAF was stranded pointing the wrong way exiting T1.
From there on up I had a monumental battle up through the pack until I caught Max and Barone, Which turned into an epic 3 way fight as we all continuously fell over each other.
Then once Max and I had finally got free he lost the back end and half span trapping me behind while Barone and a very opportunistic Syd then re-passed me. Not that much later and a perfectly innocent looking mistake in front caused Syd to spin off and collect me after a glancing contact with Max.
My front end was trashed after that, leaving me with no hope of regaining the front of the field.

I have no idea what happened to cause it yet - but both lead groups then had incidents that allowed myself and Darren to re-pass up into the top 5.
Just after I was passed by Kai again a Melkus just up the road lost the back end and span off - missing me but collecting Kai.
I forget how I passed Darren now but I ended up in a totally surprising 3rd.

Well I think I owe Kai an apology for race 1,  I sure didn't mean to bang wheels like that and send you off,  so sorry for that  :(


Race 2, Adam I'm sorry for the touch, it wasn't intentional and I moved to the inside as you came back off the grass hoping to avoid any further accident, but then the next turn I was still partly (and it was just partly) next to you but you just turned in like I wasn't there, killing yourself...  I waited thinking it my fault for the initial contact but you just ESC to the pits so that was a waste of time  :-\


Both races I had heavy damage and no pace at the end, weirdly both times from the embedded tyres at T11...

A decent race 1 with no major slips but a big off in race 2 then had to wait for the field to pass before rejoining last. Made a place up when Pete spun off but then discoed a couple of laps later  ::) First disco I've had in AC so no idea what caused that  ???

Most of the incidents I witnessed seemed to be just your typical open wheeler type things with drivers getting a bit out of shape mid corner and tangling wheels, or spinning off on their own.....erm like I did.

Hope the weather cools down a bit for next week, it feels a bit strange racing in my underpants  :sweatdrop:

I think you need to do some background setting up Tim, as these races count as non-championship :)
https://www.simracing.org.uk/smf/index.php?action=LM2R&group=1091&theme=4

My race 1 was a real disaster, because of me. Certainly my fps and lag problems didn't help, but in any case I drove badly. I spun during first corners, then, at half race, I lost the control of my car and I crashed into my teammate Barone, a disaster!  ::)
I finished the race in photofinish with Stephen.

Race 2 was better. I started well and I was second at first corner. Some laps later, Lorenzo and Adam passed me, after a my small mistake in the fast section. I remained in fourth position waiting for some mistakes of those ahead. In fact, shortly after there was contact between the top three and I could except advantage and the lead.
I was followed for few laps by Adam and Max, but a incident between them further benefited me, leaving me alone on the lead with a great gap. From that point I only had to manage the first position.

Nervous circuit as well as some maneuvers on the track.

I hope that the next track is easier.  :)

I was stuck in the traffic coming home. So no practice. But I managed to arrived in time for the quali.

Race 1 start was quite good. I got some positions, then on turn one me and the orang car (I think it was Mark?) collided. I was on the inside and I have the feeling Mark also was squeezed from other cars. I tried to use all the cautions but we touched. I don't have the replay of race 1 so I can't review that. If it was my fault, sorry for that.
After the contact I found my self behind the middle pack. After few laps I was back in the game but there was an unlucky incident. Fabri locked up at turn 1 spinning outside the track and then on it again. I was hit and the car was damaged on the aero since I had bad understeer and instability after. The rest of the race was cruising last and try to survive.
Don't worry mate it happens. :)

Race two was far better. I kept the P1 for few laps then Fabri and the others came in. I had some great fun battling with Tim and Max. I tried to hold as far as I could but in the end I was overtaken by Max. After that the disaster... In one lap I think I was hit on rear inner wheel two times that brought the cars to spin. Then after that lap two guys collided in front of me when I was exiting the crest on the main straight. No chance to avoid that car wall. What a pity the race was getting good and fun.

P.s. surely there was some brutal massacre yesterday on track, but I have to say (now that. I have put some hours into the game) that AC damage/bump model doesn't help. The cars can't absorbe the energy from the impacts and instead always do some kind of "boing effect".

That's odd, I'll look at that after work today thanks

Seems I'm going to be very lonely in these races  :'( a second slower than everybody else means no one to race against. Although thankfully several had misfortune in the first race giving me the occasional sight of another car as they zoomed up and zoomed past.

2nd race I got squeezed from both sides in T1 resulting in me being the RAF facing backwards hoping everyone around me can get through without wrecking their races. I then tried to beat my then PB but if I pushed harder I kept falling off so quit.

I've recently installed CrewChief after all the praise it gets however I can never hear anything from it. Is there a way to test its sound output, select what sound device it uses, or a general you're a numpty setting I've missed?

I wasn’t massively enthusiastic about this series with eastern bloc cars and unknown tracks but the old adage of don’t knock it ‘till you try it came to the fore for me.  :)
Two very enjoyable races last night with plenty of action and racing fun on a great track. Even the grid looked fantastic with all the different car types lined up  8)

In qually I only started 6th despite new pb’s. Got a good start whilst warily trying to watch the whole grid funnel into a tricky t1/t2 complex. Got through cleanly only to get a double thump up the derrier which gave me just yellow damage and was able to carry on without getting too out of shape. I seemed to have good race pace and systematically picked off each car in turn to get upto 3rd, including a couple of very enjoyable overtakes in the T1 turns  :) Syd was having a very good drive and stayed in my mirrors for the last laps of the race so I had to keep it steady whilst slowly gaining on Darren for 2nd. But like him, I had to short shift the last lap as fuel was on red! Crossed the line in 3rd with 0.1L  :o

Race 2 promised to be a corker with several quick guys at the rear. But there was a fairly chaotic first few laps and soon got upto 6th I think but after getting up the inside of someone at the hairpin turn they then thumped me so hard up the backside (twice!) that I got red rear end damage  ::) (note to other drivers, if you’ve lost the corner think about setting that car up for an overtake on the following straight, as they’ve usually had to take a tighter compromised line to get inside you, don’t ram them!). I didn’t know how much damage I had until the car went off track twice on the two following quick corners (must have lost my rear downforce) and I fell to near back of grid. I nearly quit but thought no it’s first rounds, need the points, so plugged on. Glad I did as I gained 5 places thorough others mistakes or overtakes  ;D Finished 6th.

I could not make the start, but this seems like a action packed round. If anyone could share their replay or put up a youtube vid, would be great.

Like Mark and FMG mentioned it is apreciated if some drivers could take a little more caution while driving in a pack. Not easy in the heat of the battle. I myself have made my share of mistakes too, but AC is too unforgiving when two cars touch and often kills the great battle you could be having with eachother. Then again it is competition and if you see a gap,..... :P
See you all at the next yet undiscovered track.

Does anyone have the race 1 replay?

two exciting races for me, tried to avoid hitting people in both starts but got tangled up with several people in both, hard to tell whos fault it is half the time when the cars are so bunched up, but was good to see a big grid!

my PC was playing up during the evening, I had a small screen freeze during the first race, then with about 3 laps to go in the second race I got a black screen for about five seconds then it switched to two screens instead of three, and I had some steering damage so I limped home, shame as I lost about 5 places

what was really encouraging last night was that the majority of the grid were trading laptimes closely, it was great to see, but also maybe that was why there were too many close contacts.  :-\ It was also pleasing that even if you did run off or spin, there was still a chance to catch other cars and have a race. I thought that once you lost the pack in one of these your race would be effectively over...not so  :)

RE Crewchief, when you fire up the app (before opening AC) are you selecting 'AC 64bit' from the list and then hitting 'start application'? you should be greeted with an audio message saying 'radio check'. I've been using it a while now and its great. Love it when he gets huffy with me if I lose a place  :laugh:

Quote from my fellow Finn "Leave me alone, I know what I'm doing". 2 good races last nite, it was nice to see  that all cars were so close in times and competive (even Estonia 21). Sorry for contact in race 2 Stephen, my bad, cold fronts did not bite at all...

Thanks Mark, that's what I was doing but I hear nothing. I reckon CrewChief is using the wrong audio device but I can't see a way to change it.

http://maxveloce.com/stuff/srou/AC_240620-205919_R_estonia_20_grobnik_.7z (http://maxveloce.com/stuff/srou/AC_240620-205919_R_estonia_20_grobnik_.7z)

Races are temporarily 'official' (I.E. moderation locked) while I try and fix my muck up with the links to the season table.
Normal service and court links should resume shortly :-[


Thanks for the replay Max - not convinced I have space to host it at the min

Races and season are now sorted, normal service has resumed  ;D

If anyone feels am incident needs looking into please do so

Thanks Max, but for some reason I see it like it's night and all dark so I can see nothing... strange.

weird, it plays ok for me?

Hi Pete, its Gary T from the old UKGPL days. CrewChief works perfectly for me in iRacing but doesn't in AC, seems to be a bit fickle.

Sorry guys, sat it out last night, my office get a bit too toasty when its as warm as this.

Regards
Gary

Maybe it's because I have the shader patch from content manager? I don't know...


A little postcard from the track, the battle on the straight with Tim and Max, lots of fun.
(https://i.postimg.cc/q77JdtKx/GROBNIK.png)

In Properties there is a option to "Use nAudio for playback". Enable it, save the profile, go back to main UI and you should have the option to change the playback device just below the message volume. I have 3 playback devices and can choose the one i want even if its different from the windows default audio device. Allways work perfect here. Hope this helps you.

Thanks for the tip, I'll try it out tonight.

I did have some success with RRE last night so making progress :)

Gary how come there's no racing history for you from those GPL days? I see I've been racing here now for over 20 years!

Does not work. Unexpected error

I think my time was before this site started, I had a long spell out of SimRacing as I worked away from home for a couple of years and then we lived in a caravan while we converted a place to live for three years. I missed the whole GTR, GTR2 thing and started again with iRacing.

Regards
Gary

I just downloaded the file to check the upload hadn't broken it, extracted it from the .7z archive and then renamed it (to stop it overwriting the original) / loaded it in game and it works fine for me.
The only thing I can think off is I didn't have the custom skins installed for Fabri and Barone when it was saved ???  I don't know if that would break it...


BTW, forgot to say congrats on that awesome pole lap there Kai  :)

It should work fine as far as I know, if you have the skins installed you see them - if not you get a white car.
I'll see if I have room still in my Dropbox tomorrow if this is still causing issues..

Thanks Max pole lap succeed, race was unlucky. :angel: