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Title: UKGPL Season 37 (2020) - East London - Jun 23 Post by: Billy Nobrakes on June 19, 2020, 11:51:46 PM +0100 Season 37 Fun Race – East London
Something else new to try out. This will be first GPL event to use the 1968 on-line mod. The season where traditional racing colours were replaced by cigarette packets & the teams started screwing odd bits of metal to their cars to generate more downforce. GP racing would never be the same again. If you don’t haver this fantastic new mod, go to this site http://68f1.gplworld.de/downloads.htm Save Download 1 & Download 3 - you will need them both. Follow the installation instructions & select the 68 car sets in GEM. As this is a fun race there is a free choice of car. There are plenty to chose from but be aware some have wings and some don’t. I’ve selected a track that regular GPL drivers will be familiar with. Server = UKGPL 4 IP = 77.102.28.179 Race date = Tuesday 23 June 2020 Time = starts no later than 21.00 UK time Track = East London (ftp://ukgpl3.dyndns.org/tracks/EastLondon/eastlndn_GPL.zip) Race length = 30 Laps Variant = 1968 On-line version 60fps patch used 60fpsV2newmod Damage Model = Advanced Qualifying time = 30 minutes minimum. Replay = here (https://drive.google.com/file/d/11N6sqer7jhwuuG_Aynf7HK9_fj4eDDkO/view?usp=sharing) Races are to be run at 60 frames per second – please use the 60 fps patch. It’s a fun race – try out Teamspeak. Unlimited resets with no stop & go are permitted. Please restrict chat to pit messages including at the end of the race until ALL drivers still racing have crossed the line. As the 1968 cars are not yet in the SROU database here are the results: Code: Event Info track : eastlndn carset : 1968-1 Entry List Num Team Chassis Engine Year Driver NAT Remark 1 Team Lotus Lotus 49/49be Ford Cosworth DFV 3.0 V81968 Dave 68 Curtis GBR GEM+ 2.5.32 3 Bruce McLaren Motor Racing McLaren M7Ae Ford Cosworth DFV 3.0 V81968 Raoni Frizzo68 BRA GEM+ 2.5.32 5 Brabham Racing Organisation Brabham BT26e Repco 860 3.0 V8 1968 Axel Cookie GER GEM+ 2.5.32 7 Matra International Matra MS10e Ford Cosworth DFV 3.0 V81968 Phil Thornton68E GBR GEM+ 2.5.32 9 Honda France Honda RA302e Honda RA302E 3.0 V8 1968 E vil 68 USA GEM+ 2.5.32 11 Honda France Honda RA302e Honda RA302E 3.0 V8 1968 E vil 68 USA GEM+ 2.5.32 13 P & M Racing Preparations Brabham BT23Be Climax FPF 2.8 L4 1968 4 UKGPL GBR GEM+ 2.5.32 15 Cooper Car Company Cooper T86be BRM P142 3.0 V12 1968 Fulvio Policardi-68 ITA GEM+ 2.5.32 16 Scuderia Ferrari SpA SEFAC Ferrari 312e Ferrari 242C 3.0 V12 1968 Raoni Frizzo68 BRA GEM+ 2.5.32 17 Team Lotus Lotus 49/49be Ford Cosworth DFV 3.0 V81968 Billy NoBrakes68 GBR GEM+ 2.5.32 18 Scuderia Ferrari SpA SEFAC Ferrari 312e Ferrari 242C 3.0 V12 1968 Andreas Gebhardt GER GEM+ 2.5.32 19 Brabham Racing Organisation Brabham BT26e Repco 860 3.0 V8 1968 Dave Rainier68 FRA GEM+ 2.5.32 20 Bruce McLaren Motor Racing McLaren M7Ae Ford Cosworth DFV 3.0 V81968 Alessandro Isacchini ITA GEM+ 2.5.32 Practice Results Pos Num Driver Time Gap Lap Clock Remark 1. 5 Axel Cookie 1:19.776 0.000 16 34:37.624 2. 20 Alessandro Isacchini 1:19.941 0.165 11 28:37.782 3. 18 Andreas Gebhardt 1:19.971 0.195 6 25:22.910 4. 16 Raoni Frizzo68 1:20.059 0.283 13 41:31.836 Off Track 5. 19 Dave Rainier68 1:20.848 1.072 10 28:40.806 6. 17 Billy NoBrakes68 1:21.549 1.773 7 22:33.873 7. 11 E vil 68 1:21.787 2.011 16 39:20.465 8. 1 Dave 68 Curtis 1:21.832 2.056 9 21:56.275 Off Track 9. 15 Fulvio Policardi-68 1:23.047 3.271 18 45:26.136 10. 7 Phil Thornton68E 1:23.116 3.340 14 30:35.699 Race Results Pos Num Driver Laps Clock Gap Diff Remark 1. 5 Axel Cookie 30 40:34.836 0.000 -0.000 2. 18 Andreas Gebhardt 30 40:39.506 4.670 -4.670 3. 16 Raoni Frizzo68 30 40:45.695 10.859 -6.189 4. 20 Alessandro Isacchini 30 41:06.993 32.157 -21.298 5. 19 Dave Rainier68 30 41:47.305 1:12.469 -40.312 6. 15 Fulvio Policardi-68 30 41:49.079 1:14.243 -1.774 7. 1 Dave 68 Curtis 30 41:55.094 1:20.258 -6.015 8. 17 Billy NoBrakes68 29 40:38.972 4.136 -6.629 9. 11 E vil 68 28 40:41.748 6.912 -1:29.669 10. 7 Phil Thornton68E 28 40:49.339 14.503 -7.591 Race Fastest Laps Pos Num Driver Time Gap Lap Clock Remark 1. 16 Raoni Frizzo68 1:19.407 0.000 25 34:49.097 2. 18 Andreas Gebhardt 1:19.701 0.294 30 41:23.812 3. 5 Axel Cookie 1:20.262 0.855 19 26:30.269 4. 20 Alessandro Isacchini 1:20.394 0.987 30 41:51.299 5. 1 Dave 68 Curtis 1:21.295 1.888 14 20:22.675 Off Track 6. 19 Dave Rainier68 1:21.369 1.962 10 14:42.864 7. 17 Billy NoBrakes68 1:21.563 2.156 28 39:56.385 8. 15 Fulvio Policardi-68 1:21.958 2.551 18 25:52.561 9. 11 E vil 68 1:21.997 2.590 12 18:05.707 10. 7 Phil Thornton68E 1:22.909 3.502 8 12:20.881 Title: Re: UKGPL Season 37 (2020) - East London - Jun 23 Post by: francesco on June 20, 2020, 08:56:06 AM +0100 My installation 68-1 don't work,there is the message could not load the track.
Happen with the original 68-1 and also with the online 68-1.What is wrong? The 68-2 work well.There are also,in the folder track;Brands68 and Nurburg68.How they should be used Title: Re: UKGPL Season 37 (2020) - East London - Jun 23 Post by: Phil Thornton on June 20, 2020, 10:59:36 AM +0100 Fran
Try changing your 68season.ini file for this: Code: [Season] name=68SEASON Year=1968 numEvents=1 [Event1] name=East London Grand Prix shortname=East London trackShortName=East London trackDirectory=eastlndn flag=saflg month=1 day=1 numberOfLaps=85 startingGrid=4 Assuming you have East London in your tracks folder you should be able to drive East London with the off-line 68 cars (select 68SEASON in GEM). If you get that working, my server is up on iGOR so you can try to join an on-line race. Title: Re: UKGPL Season 37 (2020) - East London - Jun 23 Post by: Cookie on June 20, 2020, 11:08:01 AM +0100 Fran you messed up the online install!
Read here: https://www.simracing.org.uk/smf/index.php?topic=20472.msg378741#new Title: Re: UKGPL Season 37 (2020) - East London - Jun 23 Post by: francesco on June 20, 2020, 03:15:16 PM +0100 Axel normally, when there is this message,there is something wrong in the cars folder.At the moment i have only the 68-1 installed without the online.
This morning i have installed the online overwriting any file of the 68-1(when required) and i have seen the problem.After i have deleted the car and mod folder and installed the 68-1 again(not online). Title: Re: UKGPL Season 37 (2020) - East London - Jun 23 Post by: francesco on June 20, 2020, 04:02:45 PM +0100 Now seem to work,i have teasted also your server.Seem that was a stupid problem between GEM carset and the associated player.Now i have created a player for the 68-1 and another for the 68-2.
Title: Re: UKGPL Season 37 (2020) - East London - Jun 23 Post by: Phil Thornton on June 20, 2020, 05:49:22 PM +0100 Now i have created a player for the 68-1 and another for the 68-2. Yes, I have done the same. :thumbup2:I'm pleased you've got the 68mod to work :clap: Title: Re: UKGPL Season 37 (2020) - East London - Jun 23 Post by: Phil Thornton on June 23, 2020, 08:52:33 PM +0100 Sorry about the stopping and starting of the server. I'd set the wrong number of laps. It is OK now.
Title: Re: UKGPL Season 37 (2020) - East London - Jun 23 Post by: bagrupp on June 23, 2020, 09:22:05 PM +0100 i did connect to the server one hour ago but no it has disseapeared.
Title: Re: UKGPL Season 37 (2020) - East London - Jun 23 Post by: Cookie on June 23, 2020, 11:11:25 PM +0100 i did connect to the server one hour ago but no it has disseapeared. did you try the IP of the racepost?Title: Re: UKGPL Season 37 (2020) - East London - Jun 23 Post by: bagrupp on June 24, 2020, 08:40:15 AM +0100 i did connect to the server one hour ago but no it has disseapeared. did you try the IP of the racepost?i did not see it unfortunately Title: Re: UKGPL Season 37 (2020) - East London - Jun 23 Post by: Alessandro Isacchini on June 24, 2020, 09:38:18 AM +0100 I was in difficulty with this car, terrible setup, impossible to drive "easy", something understeer and something over.., but specially in the braking zone where I can't to be too hard because the rear slip suddenly
Tried only McLaren other cars I don't know Title: Re: UKGPL Season 37 (2020) - East London - Jun 23 Post by: Cookie on June 24, 2020, 11:52:00 AM +0100 I was in difficulty with this car, terrible setup, impossible to drive "easy", something understeer and something over.., but specially in the braking zone where I can't to be too hard because the rear slip suddenly Tried only McLaren other cars I don't know IMO this problem is caused by the tyres, when you get ~80° they suddenly get too much grip. (snappy!) This Mod is based on the 66mod so the tyres are based on this tyre specs - optimum grip -> 26PSI F+R at 100° warm.. Same tyres as the CA66 including the "GPL Tire Pressure Bug Fix Patch" I had all the time temps ~52°-60°C and avoided to get higer temps, so I had the handling that I could savely drive ::) This is my view and where my prib has the tire infos -> centered! (https://i.ibb.co/tpszHq3/Bildschirmfoto-2020-06-13-11-26-59.png) (https://ibb.co/MkVfgc9) Title: Re: UKGPL Season 37 (2020) - East London - Jun 23 Post by: Alessandro Isacchini on June 24, 2020, 12:23:45 PM +0100 My temps was like your circa, between 54/62max, I ran with pribdula for this reason because I can't to warm the tires
Maybe this is the cause, this was my first race with this mod and sure I don't know it, other test are required for the future races! :laugh: Title: Re: UKGPL Season 37 (2020) - East London - Jun 23 Post by: Billy Nobrakes on June 24, 2020, 12:48:58 PM +0100 The '68 mod will take some learning. The car handling did feel a little different to other mods but I probably just need to find a better set up. Like some other drivers I did notice a tendency to lose the back end.
Nevertheless I was achieving some quite reasonable times in the Lotus 49. Due to early casualties I was running in 3rd at one point. We'll try & slot in another fun race before Season 37 gets underway. Title: Re: UKGPL Season 37 (2020) - East London - Jun 23 Post by: dave curtis on June 24, 2020, 07:26:16 PM +0100 I was hoping that the 68s are like the F2, in so far as the default setup is good enough - but from chat last night & here; maybe that is not the case? :) I initially found the back-end to get lost under braking, but less so if I just let the revs get a little lower before changing down. Does that mean that the "GPL Tire Pressure Bug Fix Patch" is not just for sports cars, or is that something for general deployment? I also inherited a good spot at one point due to misfortunes elsewhere, but (un)gracefully gave them all back again. Apologies Billy, at one point (you probably know the one) I came rushing back from the wilderness into what had looked to be a massive gap on Pribluda, but just before the impact it dawned on me that you were right there too (I thought was mainly McLarens that attracted each other) I also found that my look left/right buttons were not working in the race (had been fine in practice) & had similar at Spa on Sunday. Worked fine again when I tested afterwards. Something else for me to look at/check next time. Anyway, good event. Would certainly be interested for another 1968 gathering. Cheers, Dave. Title: Re: UKGPL Season 37 (2020) - East London - Jun 23 Post by: Cookie on June 25, 2020, 12:35:29 AM +0100 "GPL Tire Pressure Bug Fix Patch"
There is a tiny mathematical bug in the original gpl.exe, that bug makes a little difference in tire grip -> the higher pressure is needed, the bigger the difference . (At 24 PSI the difference is near nothing - but GT67 needs 32 PSI ) Wich mods do have this bug? -> 67 - 65 - 66 - 69X - 67F2 - GT67 - CanAm71 This Mods have the fix included: 66CanAm - 55 - 67SC - 68E - 67X When does it make sense to use the patch? The patch lowers the top speed, because of more rolling resistance of the tires! The patch heats up the tires more equal over the surface so they behave better in sliding. So use it at Clermont - but don't use it at Monza 10k Wich mods gain most by using it? GT67 + 66 -> GT at Targa but never at LeMans! (GT is the obsolete old mod! SC67 is the new with fixed tires!) For 67F1+65+69X you must test yourself, it is said the times are the same with or without patch. Quote My opinion about the 68E (+67x +CA66) tires: These tires get suddenly too much grip when getting near their "optimum" temperature, so I tried to keep them lower and succeeded. The new SC67 + 55s have IMO way better behaving tires, I wonder why nobody ever complained about 55s tires.... ;D Title: Re: UKGPL Season 37 (2020) - East London - Jun 23 Post by: AnGex on June 26, 2020, 04:42:00 PM +0100 Took your advice and succeeded. I have a stable car on the brakes now. Fantastic! A really great mod.
But doesn't it use his own track.ini ? Title: Re: UKGPL Season 37 (2020) - East London - Jun 23 Post by: Cookie on June 26, 2020, 05:08:32 PM +0100 Own track.ini's are only made when a mod makes own optical or physical changes at the track.
But they are called track55.ini - e.g. Monza10k for 55s have haybales in Para :o ( If you don't like them, just kill this ini...) Title: Re: UKGPL Season 37 (2020) - East London - Jun 23 Post by: AnGex on June 26, 2020, 05:33:41 PM +0100 Thanks for your quick response, but I'm not sure... Normally I have a track.ini for every track and mod. For example brands67: track65.ini; track66.ini; track68.ini; track69.ini and trackSC.ini. But Monza67 is missing the track68.ini?
Title: Re: UKGPL Season 37 (2020) - East London - Jun 23 Post by: Cookie on June 26, 2020, 05:44:01 PM +0100 At some tracks there are multiple season files like Mexico or Kyalami, but other tracks have only one track.ini for all mods.
Ah - and be carefull with the GEM+ checkbox "disable AI limpback to pits" whenever you check it it builds a new trackxx.ini if there is none by the track maker, and this .ini contains only one line!! This can make lots of troubles!!!! Title: Re: UKGPL Season 37 (2020) - East London - Jun 23 Post by: AnGex on June 27, 2020, 08:42:32 AM +0100 Can I create a 68 track.ini myself and the mod will use it?
Title: Re: UKGPL Season 37 (2020) - East London - Jun 23 Post by: Cookie on June 27, 2020, 10:16:20 AM +0100 Yes,
rename a track.ini to track68.ini and change the pitstalls for slot 0vs19 to the end of the row and you see if it works ;) Title: Re: UKGPL Season 37 (2020) - East London - Jun 23 Post by: AnGex on June 27, 2020, 11:31:11 AM +0100 Thanks, everything works fine now.
Another question, will the result of the East London race still be published? Title: Re: UKGPL Season 37 (2020) - East London - Jun 23 Post by: Phil Thornton on June 27, 2020, 01:43:53 PM +0100 Thanks, everything works fine now. Yes it will be but we've got to update the website importer to recognise the 68 cars.Another question, will the result of the East London race still be published? Title: Re: UKGPL Season 37 (2020) - East London - Jun 23 Post by: AnGex on June 27, 2020, 01:56:26 PM +0100 Thanks for your answer, Phil. I thought so, otherwise we all would've had driven in the Brabham. ;)
Title: Re: UKGPL Season 37 (2020) - East London - Jun 23 Post by: Cookie on June 28, 2020, 04:26:18 PM +0100 Thanks Phil for import ;)
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