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Title: UKGPL Season 37 (2020) 1967 F1 Grand Prix - Kyalami - Jul 5
Post by: EvilClive on July 02, 2020, 11:40:25 AM +0100
Season 37 F1 Full Grand Prix – Round 1 –  Kyalami
For the opening race of Season 37 we go back to where GPL all began.
Kyalami in South Africa hosted the opening round of the 1967 Grand Prix season – won by Pedro Rodriguez in a Cooper Maserati.  

This season we are experimenting with some Grand Prix length races which we estimate should take 90 mins to complete.
This change to our normal format has required some changes to our rules and etiquette, so please read everything carefully to ensure that you understand.



Server = UKGPL_8
IP = see iGOR
Race date = Sunday 05-07-2020
Time = 20:30 UK time (21:00 GMT) RACE WILL START AT APPROX 21:00 UK LOCAL TIME
Track = Kyalami – Papyrus original.
Race length = 63 Laps (90 minutes)
Variant = 1967
60fps patch used   = 60fpsV2newmod
Damage Model = Intermediate
Qualifying time = 30-45 minutes
Password: see above (#post_event_password)
Replay = https://www.sendspace.com/file/ttwofp


Papyrus Kyalami circuit is being used

You do need to ensure that you have the pit wall in place.
The standard Papyrus track has a pit wall but there are patches available that remove it.
The absence of a pit wall will not stop you from joining the race
but anybody seen by the moderators miraculously driving through the pit wall on the server replay will risk disqualification.
Normally this makes little difference to the racing, but with the possibility of pitstops in this race the barrier could be very important



Drivers must complete 50% of each race to score.

PLEASE READ THIS CAREFULLY AND BE SURE THAT YOU UNDERSTAND.

QUALIFYING
During qualifying drivers are expected to drive back to the pits after each qualifying run. It is not permissible to return to the pits using the "Esc" key. If a driver crashes his car in qualifying and cannot return to the pits safely under his own power, he must not participate in the remaining qualifying period. The driver will allocated the grid slot achieved at that point.
REFUELLING
On some tracks it may not be possible to complete the full race distance on one tank of fuel. To avoid having to drive conservatively in order to save fuel, it is recommended that drivers make use of the Pit Stop patch which allows refuelling. Details are on the UKGPL web site on the Game page under the rules section.

We are using Lee Bowden's pit stop patch V 1.0 available here
http://srmz.net/index.php?s=2f2b26bfa1b153fa8e44e9fc470d61a9&app=core&module=attach&section=attach&attach_id=28268

This patch allows cars to refuel in the pits to the same level as when they started the race and does NOT  allow for tyres to be changed.
 You do not have to make a pitstop and may choose to run the whole race by filling your tanks from the start.

For Season 37 we are promoting the use of TEAMSPEAK for those who wish to use it. Details can be found here
This allows drivers to speak to each other if they wish, IT IS NOT COMPULSORY.

Important!!!
RED FLAG RESTARTS
We hope that drivers will be cautious on Lap 1 and avoid any moves that might cause a crash.
However, because this is racing there might be an occasion where several cars are eliminated, or badly damaged, by an incident on lap 1 and we could be left with 4 cars that have a lonely 90 minute race ahead of them.
If the moderator decides that any such incident on Lap 1, has removed too many cars from the race, he is able to order a RESTART, and he will announce this on Teamspeak and then through GPL CHAT.
The server will be shut down and restarted. There will then be a SINGLE lap qualifying session to determine the grid placings. Drivers will be allowed a single outlap followed by ONE flying lap to set a grid time. After completing your flying lap please pull off the track and ESC to pits to keep the track clear.
A Restart will only be called ONCE for each race and will only apply to Lap 1 incidents. If there is a multi car incident on Lap 2 then tough luck!! These are long races and a certain amount of caution should be used.

Please restrict chat to pit messages including at the end of the race until ALL drivers still racing have crossed the line.



Registered drivers are  :    Car allocated

AndyL (FT)                          Ferrari                
Cookie (FT)                          Lotus
Eric Bilodeau (FT)                 Brabham
EvilClive (FT)                        Cooper                    
fpolicardi (FT)                       Honda
JonnyO (FT)                          Cooper
MagicArsouille (FT)                BRM
Rainier (FT)                          Ferrari
Raoni Frizzo (FT)                   Honda
RBald (FT)                            Eagle
uli (FT)                                 Honda
bagrupp (R1)                        Brabham

Late additions

Enrique Farina                      Brabham
Renato Jungle                       Ferrari
Fgubbels                              Brabham   ( I have no info on Frank's pace or rank so this car might be adjusted )
Daniel San                           Honda        ( well it just has to be the Honda doesn't it? But again this might be adjusted when we see how fast Daniel is )
Alain Maurice                        Honda


The intention is to promote close racing for the duration of the race and is based upon driver's previous performances within UKGPL.
The car allocation will be reviewed mid season and may be changed at the moderator's discretion.




Title: Re: UKGPL Season 37 (2020) 1967 F1 Grand Prix - Kyalami - Jul 5
Post by: fpolicardi on July 02, 2020, 06:35:15 PM +0100
LOL Clive, I bet you would happy to swap your Cooper with my Honda!  ;D


Title: Re: UKGPL Season 37 (2020) 1967 F1 Grand Prix - Kyalami - Jul 5
Post by: EvilClive on July 02, 2020, 07:17:16 PM +0100
 :-\
 


Title: Re: UKGPL Season 37 (2020) 1967 F1 Grand Prix - Kyalami - Jul 5
Post by: fpolicardi on July 02, 2020, 07:30:25 PM +0100
:-\
 
Ehm, I would.


Title: Re: UKGPL Season 37 (2020) 1967 F1 Grand Prix - Kyalami - Jul 5
Post by: Raoni Frizzo on July 02, 2020, 11:32:04 PM +0100
Ehm, I would. (2) ;D


Title: Re: UKGPL Season 37 (2020) 1967 F1 Grand Prix - Kyalami - Jul 5
Post by: Raoni Frizzo on July 02, 2020, 11:36:34 PM +0100
That'll be a nice challenge! Honda is by far the worst challenge for a keyboarder due to its weight (even worse than BRM, that at least it has 6 gears). But let's see what is possible to do. At least finishing the races would be something cool. That's the spirit of this new format ;)


Title: Re: UKGPL Season 37 (2020) 1967 F1 Grand Prix - Kyalami - Jul 5
Post by: JonnyO on July 04, 2020, 06:47:27 PM +0100
 Two bad points for me in the new rules, which are placed very close to the race, may have riders still unknown tomorrow.
 First point, returning to the pits during the qualy, this can cause a lot of problems for riders in the way of a quick lap!
 Second point, a big accident and provides another restart, bad point is, lap launched from pilot to pilot, this will take a long time ....... many pilots work on Monday, please reflect that.


Title: Re: UKGPL Season 37 (2020) 1967 F1 Grand Prix - Kyalami - Jul 5
Post by: Phil Thornton on July 04, 2020, 07:06:21 PM +0100
Two bad points for me in the new rules, which are placed very close to the race, may have riders still unknown tomorrow.
 First point, returning to the pits during the qualy, this can cause a lot of problems for riders in the way of a quick lap!
Understood, but the rationale is to be realistic as possible. In real racing if a car breaks down out on the circuit, the qualifying is over for that driver.
I agree this means there is extra danger with drivers returning to the pits but it is expected that drivers will be extra careful to compensate.

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Second point, a big accident and provides another restart, bad point is, lap launched from pilot to pilot, this will take a long time ....... many pilots work on Monday, please reflect that.
Agreed, we only expect to have a restart in exceptional circumstances and this would only be for a first lap incident. I very much hope that drivers will be sensible and a restart will never be needed.


Title: Re: UKGPL Season 37 (2020) 1967 F1 Grand Prix - Kyalami - Jul 5
Post by: EvilClive on July 05, 2020, 11:06:22 AM +0100
Thanks for replying to Jonny 's questions Phil.

Just to confirm that we are trying to re create the true GP races.

Drivers need to protect their cars and should not risk a Hari-Kiri qualifying lap at 150% that ends in the barrier and flames.

We hope that drivers on their "out lap" or an "in lap" will watch the mirrors and stay off the racing line to allow cars on a hot lap a clear track. Make it clear by your speed and track position that you can be passed safely.

 Just like real life racing, it will be a case of finding yourself some space to run your fast qualifying laps.

Please remember that if you are on a fast qualifying lap and you catch a car that is doing his best effort at a qualifying lap, he might be slower than you!. But that slower driver is still entitled to complete his lap and does not have to move out of the way if he is on a genuine qualifying lap.

The race is approximately 90 minutes duration, so grid position is maybe not so important as for a shorter race. A fast driver who starts at the back of the grid and waits until the pack has spread out will probably be at the front within 30 laps......and that is only half distance!!!



Title: Re: UKGPL Season 37 (2020) 1967 F1 Grand Prix - Kyalami - Jul 5
Post by: JonnyO on July 05, 2020, 05:40:31 PM +0100
 ....anyway i want to leave a suggestion: to reflect.
In need of restarting the race on account of a big one: Upon returning to the server with 5 minutes of qualy, drivers enter the server in order of calling the grid of the previous race, so no driver can enter the track before the start race, this will maintain the entry order positions and maintain the original starting grid.


Title: Re: UKGPL Season 37 (2020) 1967 F1 Grand Prix - Kyalami - Jul 5
Post by: Cookie on July 05, 2020, 06:23:10 PM +0100
Joao I agree this is the way to handle, but it only works if you have a disciplined bunch of drivers but costs a lot of time.

It also would work if you all have TS and listen to the moderator - so not possible.

Easy to say do your lap and ok - costs 5 min of concentration - for a long race


Title: Re: UKGPL Season 37 (2020) 1967 F1 Grand Prix - Kyalami - Jul 5
Post by: Ricardo Valim da Silva on July 05, 2020, 07:05:34 PM +0100
we have 2 drivers Alex and Miele, which car should they race with?


Title: Re: UKGPL Season 37 (2020) 1967 F1 Grand Prix - Kyalami - Jul 5
Post by: fpolicardi on July 05, 2020, 07:33:40 PM +0100
I see a lot of braby, honda and fezza, while only one driver for other makers. I don't want change anything at last minute, just curious how it works  :)


Title: Re: UKGPL Season 37 (2020) 1967 F1 Grand Prix - Kyalami - Jul 5
Post by: EvilClive on July 05, 2020, 08:09:21 PM +0100
We are almost at a full grid of cars, two more have asked to join......

Alex is Brabham
Frank Miele is Honda


Title: Re: UKGPL Season 37 (2020) 1967 F1 Grand Prix - Kyalami - Jul 5
Post by: Cookie on July 05, 2020, 08:18:13 PM +0100
Alex + Frank please vote in registration thread

Alain Maurice needs a car


Title: Re: UKGPL Season 37 (2020) 1967 F1 Grand Prix - Kyalami - Jul 5
Post by: JonnyO on July 05, 2020, 08:21:07 PM +0100
  Please , I can with Cooper?
  My pc is very good !!!! No problem for FPS ....my speed is 2019 !!!


Title: Re: UKGPL Season 37 (2020) 1967 F1 Grand Prix - Kyalami - Jul 5
Post by: JonnyO on July 05, 2020, 08:22:31 PM +0100
  Sorry for many problems today!!!


Title: Re: UKGPL Season 37 (2020) 1967 F1 Grand Prix - Kyalami - Jul 5
Post by: EvilClive on July 05, 2020, 08:26:32 PM +0100
Alain Maurice has the Honda
Jonny O is moved to Cooper


Title: Re: UKGPL Season 37 (2020) 1967 F1 Grand Prix - Kyalami - Jul 5
Post by: JonnyO on July 05, 2020, 08:28:31 PM +0100
 OK thanks!


Title: Re: UKGPL Season 37 (2020) 1967 F1 Grand Prix - Kyalami - Jul 5
Post by: MagicArsouille on July 05, 2020, 08:57:20 PM +0100
no possible to connect....I'm not qualifie for this race ?


Title: Re: UKGPL Season 37 (2020) 1967 F1 Grand Prix - Kyalami - Jul 5
Post by: Alain Maurice on July 05, 2020, 10:05:21 PM +0100
Good evening Evil

Sorry I didn’t see this message "Alain Maurice has the Honda"

and I drove a Cooper, sry sry sry

Sry also for Uli :(


Title: Re: UKGPL Season 37 (2020) 1967 F1 Grand Prix - Kyalami - Jul 5
Post by: uli on July 05, 2020, 10:19:25 PM +0100
SRY Alain, it was not your fault! It was me who had engine problems at that moment when I suddenly became slow!
So it was a very short race. Until then it was a nice. Thanks to you Alain.
Now I still have a lot to learn about the Honda RA 300 . . .


Title: Re: UKGPL Season 37 (2020) 1967 F1 Grand Prix - Kyalami - Jul 5
Post by: Cookie on July 05, 2020, 11:15:17 PM +0100
Fantastic race with this Lotus Diva I tiptoed around and after the fuel got lighter could gain some positions
but lost them again and again when doing little mistakes- running wide once was on 4th just to throw it away in T1...

with 12 laps to go, my monitor suddenly warned me to shut down with a central window so I went off and by hammering on the KB it was gone
- to come back after a minute and again off and gone
- next was a black screen (engine still running) now I had to fiddle with the monitors joystick button to shut off this energy mode...
Car was still running and unhurt and I rejoined in last place with Fulvio some 100 m ahead to catch ;D 

I had 90 minutes action with lots of fun!


Title: Re: UKGPL Season 37 (2020) 1967 F1 Grand Prix - Kyalami - Jul 5
Post by: AndyL on July 05, 2020, 11:57:37 PM +0100
A wonderfully slow and gentlemanly first lap turned into a very busy race ahead of me.
I had the 30fps problem again, but not in qualy. After 20 laps it hadn't cleared, so I tried turning off bits of Pribluda. I removed my sector times and had 60 fps immediately. Put them back on and 60 fps stayed to the end. I couldn't push early on and let a few through. Ahead of me for many laps I could see 6 cars having a great time as I watched the little dots going up the hill and out to T1. They slowed each other down as I could keep pace a little way back. Then Alex, Axel and Clive fell off and I ended up pretty much where I started. 90 minutes flew by. Grats to all finishers with a great battle for the lead to the end.


Title: Re: UKGPL Season 37 (2020) 1967 F1 Grand Prix - Kyalami - Jul 5
Post by: JonnyO on July 06, 2020, 12:51:00 AM +0100
  Very tiring, a ligament in the right knee was on fire at the end of the race, I'm not sure if I can do everything like running from that distance.
The first lap was perfect, it gave the overall form the race was smooth, the respect between riders. The number of riders at the end of the race was a surprise for me, I expected a much larger number with engine breaks, a big surprise !.
   Thanks to the organizer for his patience for the last minute changes!
  In the race I was lucky not to be in the group of death who were immediately behind me, I could not stand the whole race in the midst of those crazy people !!
   Congratulations Farina !!!! Made a perfect race !!!


Title: Re: UKGPL Season 37 (2020) 1967 F1 Grand Prix - Kyalami - Jul 5
Post by: Eric Bilodeau on July 06, 2020, 01:43:57 AM +0100

  What should have been my longest run has become the shortest. Really sorry. I really liked the feeling of the car! With the full it was a delicacy to drive! Fantastic! Bravo to the many who finished! I can't wait to see how you feel after a marathon.


Title: Re: UKGPL Season 37 (2020) 1967 F1 Grand Prix - Kyalami - Jul 5
Post by: fgubbels on July 06, 2020, 08:41:07 AM +0100
Congratulations to Farina for his solid race!

I had a good start but at lap 5 I was overtaken by Jungle that was very quick with his ferrari. Shortly after he made a mistake and I slided in but there was a contact and we both went off track. This may be due to a lag or to the funny way GPL handle contacts. That was over for Jungle but I was fortunate not to have damages. The rest of the race was a hard battle to climb back up from 13th to 4th position. It was funny to race with you all! I'm happy I could finish this full GP race after more than 10 years with simracing. It was an amazing experience to live once again with 16 other drivers more than 20 years after GPL was released. Fantastic simulation even if there are still some minor default, 60FPS is really great to race with!


Title: Re: UKGPL Season 37 (2020) 1967 F1 Grand Prix - Kyalami - Jul 5
Post by: EvilClive on July 06, 2020, 09:05:04 AM +0100
A great relief to get the first race in this new Grand Prix format completed. A few last minute entries increased the grid to 16 cars which was great to see.

The racing appeared to be close right to the end, and all the way through the field with some great battles.

First of all...Huge thanks to the moderators team here at UKGPL for all of the work to get this new series working.
Also a big thankyou to all drivers for the careful first laps  ;D :thumbup2:  and I also saw that all drivers were very careful when they rejoined the circuit after running wide.

Grats to the podium and to all the cars that finished the 90minutes. I hope everyone enjoyed the challenge?

@ Tris, we missed you. Sorry that you could not join the server. Please check that you have registered for the Grand Prix Series and not for the Sprint series? or try to join via IP address through GPL Multiplayer next time?




Title: Re: UKGPL Season 37 (2020) 1967 F1 Grand Prix - Kyalami - Jul 5
Post by: MagicArsouille on July 06, 2020, 02:07:06 PM +0100
hum !


Title: Re: UKGPL Season 37 (2020) 1967 F1 Grand Prix - Kyalami - Jul 5
Post by: MagicArsouille on July 06, 2020, 02:11:18 PM +0100
Sorry ...error...

Thx Evil ....I try everythings but no !....I will find out the problem for shure I will be there for next one .....

Hey Fred welcome back on board ...tu nous a manqué ..... j'espère que tu vas faire toute la saison et en LBGPL aussi :)


Title: Re: UKGPL Season 37 (2020) 1967 F1 Grand Prix - Kyalami - Jul 5
Post by: Rainier on July 06, 2020, 02:38:13 PM +0100
Yes, long time no see Fred Gubbels !

Congrats Fred for this great return.

Palmarès LBGPL :
2003 Championnat LBGPL (GPL67) : Frédéric Gubbels
2004 Championnat LBGPL (GPL67) : Frédéric Gubbels
2005 Championnat LBGPL (GPL67) : Frédéric Gubbels
2006 Championnat LBGPL (GPL67) : Frédéric Gubbels
2006 Championnat LBGPL (GPL65) : Frédéric Gubbels
2008 Championnat LBGPL (GPL67-65-69-66) : Frédéric Gubbels
2009 LBGPL Printemps (GPL67-65-69-66-TC) : Frédéric Gubbels


LFGPL :
2009 Championnat LFGPL (GPL67) : Frédéric Gubbels


Title: Re: UKGPL Season 37 (2020) 1967 F1 Grand Prix - Kyalami - Jul 5
Post by: Alain Maurice on July 06, 2020, 03:35:59 PM +0100
Good morning all

well done   :clap: Enrique Farina    RBald  and  JonnyO

Engine broken on the 31st lap, I learned when I came back from the pits that the race management had asked me to take a Honda, I hope not to lose my license following this annoying incident.

Nice fight with Uli at the start of the race but unfortunately I would end up touching him at the end of the corner, I wait for him but he will not start again, engine broken, still sorry Uli.

Passionate about long races, they always reserve good surprises for us and the atmosphere of the race is different, thank you to the organizers, congratulations to all and see you soon

Great return Fred  ;)


Title: Re: UKGPL Season 37 (2020) 1967 F1 Grand Prix - Kyalami - Jul 5
Post by: fgubbels on July 06, 2020, 07:44:40 PM +0100
Yes, long time no see Fred Gubbels !

Congrats Fred for this great return.

Palmarès LBGPL :
2003 Championnat LBGPL (GPL67) : Frédéric Gubbels
2004 Championnat LBGPL (GPL67) : Frédéric Gubbels
2005 Championnat LBGPL (GPL67) : Frédéric Gubbels
2006 Championnat LBGPL (GPL67) : Frédéric Gubbels
2006 Championnat LBGPL (GPL65) : Frédéric Gubbels
2008 Championnat LBGPL (GPL67-65-69-66) : Frédéric Gubbels
2009 LBGPL Printemps (GPL67-65-69-66-TC) : Frédéric Gubbels


LFGPL :
2009 Championnat LFGPL (GPL67) : Frédéric Gubbels

Hi Rainer. Great to see you still so passionate about GPL. Alain, Tristan, Clive, Phil and many others are still there. This is impressive to see this after my long break. Actually not many things happen in the last 10 years for sim racing software. GPL is still a good choice alongside iracing and refactor.


Title: Re: UKGPL Season 37 (2020) 1967 F1 Grand Prix - Kyalami - Jul 5
Post by: Enrique Farina on July 06, 2020, 11:26:41 PM +0100
Thank you very much for your greetings.
    I don't know what happened to me, but I think I was possessed, by a good driver, because in the 63 laps I didn't make a single mistake, the last 40 laps, I had a lot of pressure from Roberto, on his powerful eagle, but I realized that We were coming at a similar rate, and there were 40  laps whit  full throttle  unable to relax, always looking at that "shark face" of the eagle in my rear-view mirrors,
   Fortunately I was finally able to run well if I was wrong and I was able to win it, it is the first victory I have in this extraordinary league, and I hope more can come.
   Thank you for the organization, the great respect of all the drivers, the cleanliness of all, so it is a pleasure to run a race, so it will be very difficult for me to leave the GPL for its wonderful community.


Title: Re: UKGPL Season 37 (2020) 1967 F1 Grand Prix - Kyalami - Jul 5
Post by: RBald on July 07, 2020, 12:40:06 AM +0100
First of all, my best congratulations to Enrique for his fantastic race and win. I did my best on the powerfull sharked Eagle, but today there was any possibility against the "fury" Enrique. Many thanks to Kike for this close race, great fun. Thanks to the race direction for the magnificent organization.


Title: Re: UKGPL Season 37 (2020) 1967 F1 Grand Prix - Kyalami - Jul 5
Post by: fpolicardi on July 08, 2020, 10:23:37 AM +0100
Grats Enrique and podium.
I'm not used to drive the Honda so I picked an old safe Alison's setup from the early age of GPL that made me stay on track with full fuel, maybe too much fuel cause I started with 140 L. and at the end I have still 33 L., plus I put a click more to 5th to not risk overreving while drafting someone on the straight so I was a bit slooooow. After some laps of battle with David's Ferrari he managed to pass me on the straight and I never saw him again and never saw cars behind. I had only a minor wide at T1 trying to let by leaders lapping me towards the end of the race and some battle with Axel Lotus that had some problem, but he soon get away over the horizon.
I think that most of us were worried to have mechanical failure or to crash each other so the race was even more real that in real life where crashes happen anyway.
We'll see the next at Baires if we will be more brave, but for sure I'll be slooooow again  :D