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Practice: 20:15 (15 mins)
Qualifying: 20:30 (20 mins)
Race: 20:50 (21 laps = ~40 mins)
Track: Donington Park GP
Cars allowed: Austin-Healey 3000 (rating   7.5), Renault Alpine A110 (rating 7.2), Mercedes 300SL (rating 6.8)
Time of Day Setting: 14:00

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Nice car and track combination. 8)

The race we had with this car-set at Mondello was a good one, should be interesting at Donnington with the Merc and the Healy able to stretch their legs a bit more.

 :winkiss: Please give us some addon tracks ;)
Thanks.
Cheers

Should be a good session here, the Mondello race was pretty competetive with these cars, one to look forward to methinks... ;)

Hmm, I found those cars kinda boring. I had the Alpine last time, might try something else now (read: Healey, as I sold the Merc ;D. Not by accident, but I hate it :laugh:)

Yeah, but you find everything boooooring Jeff.  :P

Kinda boring, kinda :P. I just like the other, bigger cars in this class more ;D

It's not about the size of your car, it's about how you use it.  ;)

That's what people say with small.....cars :P

My wife always says big flash car = small knob. :o

Thats why I drive a Fiat Panda! ;D ;D

lol!

so back onto the race then  ;)

Yes, but she doesn't have a choice anymore so get whatever car you want!  :P :laugh:

Well it looks like Team Oldie Racing is going on to the back burner.

Tom's in hospital and will have major heart op tomorrow

He'll not be able to touch a sterring wheel of any kind for a minimum of 6 weeks.

Which pissed him off after he pre ordered the game and they put the release date back.

Any way fingers crossed


Oilseal

Best wishes to Tom.
He'll just get back in time for the release of RACE. :laugh:

Yep, best wishes.

But bear in mind if RACE comes in on time, I'm sure a few more of us with need of similar treatment ....  ;D

gl tom!!!

Fingers crossed

All the best Tom.

Get well soon Tom,   :)

Yup, get well soon Tom :thumbup1: :wheelchair:

All the best Tom - try and get someone to get your pc into the ward and plug it into that flatscreen pay as you use telly thing ;)

All the best

 :'( Once again a stonker of a quali for me, a PB to boot, reckon it would have been a good fight for the entire race, I may be able to race next week, it all depends on my shifts.
Hope you all had a good one.
Pimpmobile out... ;D

Got a bit confused after practice (missed most of it) - saw "next session - Race" and thought - "crap - that was qualifying and now we're in warmup" ....

.....needless to say I forgot there was no warmup, and wewere in qualifying.  Just got beaten by Jonzo, and proceeded to follow him round for 8 laps, until he lost the back end.  Then he was following me for a couple ... until I lost it coming out of the old hairpin (great job missing me by the way), at which point Shark blew by.  After a little while Shark got past Jonzo, and I followed him again (notice a pattern) until he spun.  Another spin let him past, and then I cocked up the last lap losing another place.

It was great to be battling for the full 40, shame about the end but that's life.

Really enjoyable race all in all.

Qualified 5th, much better than I was expecting. Race start was good except for the silly sausage who hadn't read the announcement properly and did a standing start. Pff.

Had a solid 5th place finish in the bag and had a real sniff of 4th as Radius looked like he was struggling with his tyres even more than I was, but then stupidly put on too much power over the bumps in the middle of Goddards and spun, dumping myself behind PRibeiro and without enough left in me or the car to get back past.

T'was good while it lasted. ::)

Well that was hard. Just found it hard to get anywhere near the pace. Even Gizmo easily beating me on pace. :o :o :P Started 9th and looked like it was going to be a lonely affair with me being quicker than guys behind but not able to keep up to the guys in front.

Well 1 or 2 laps in and sawing so much at the wheel was making my monitor wobble horrible on the desk and the power lead just nudged enough out of the monitor for it to go off. This was like having my eyes poked out. Driving completely blind I tried to pull over and off.  :helpsmilie: Got up pushed the lead back in again and monitor was on. Found myself parked at the side of the track, so not bad. Hope I didn't get in anyone's way when this happened. Lost about 20 seconds on that lap and was dead last. Rest of the race was basically picking up all the 6 positions I lost back to where I started, which was actually quite enjoyable, had some fun terrorising MarkJ before getting past and eventually getting back up to Rob and with the power of the Healey was able to outdrag him on one of the straights.

Was really interesting having GTL PD monitor running on my other computer's monitor. It showed my tyres at the end were only 7% worn which makes sense with me feeling in any GTL race I've ever done that the tyres feel exactly the same at the end as the start practically. Where others complain of wear, I don't get it, just my driving style I guess.

I'm really not getting to grips with how to set these cars up. I've tried radically different things to find something that works and nothing does. I'm unable to stop wheels locking under brakes no matter what i do with brake balance and pressure, I just don't get it.

I did a PB during qually, but it wasn't enough. Grats to Baracus for a great pole time.
At the end of qually I realised there was a Team Shark Healey livery, so I felt like left out in my red Healey ;D

The beginning of the formation lap was a bit too fast IMO, but at the end the pack closed and it was fine again.
I was following Bara for a few laps, trying to find a way past. But the nimble Alpne was hard to overtake. But I had a better exit in the last hairpin and I could get alongside just before Redgate. I had to keep the car really close to the Apex, as Bara didn't want to share more room than needed ;D.

I could slowly pull away from Bara and Pero, as they were keeping eachother busy. But near the end Bara got loose and he was gaining fast. 4 Laps before the end I had a 4,4s lead, but at the end it was only 0,5s. My tyres were shot, and I had no grip. But other than that, my own made setup worked very well, which gives me some confidence in the setupdepartment.

Before the race I had a great GTR2 battle with Alex Gremko at Imola. 10 Laps pushing like mad, and thrilling to the last breath. So when I started GTL and steppe dinto the Healey, I fel asleep. With GTR2 I cannot get into GTL anymore, it feels so dull. During this race I was also pushing hard, but it felt like siteseeing :sleep1:

Provisional results (https://www.simracing.org.uk/index.php?ind=lm2&event=218) and replay (http://ukgtl.simracing.org.uk/Donington%20Park%20GP%20-%20Ladder%20061005.zip) available.

Unofficial Lapchart (http://www.lapcharts.teamshark.org.uk/Lapcharts/iDonington GTC65 5-10-2006.htm)

That was fun. I was hoping you'd make a big enough mistake that I'd be able to get back through, but you didn't.

A bit of a lonely race up to that point.

Mag07 - you might want to reread the rules about the pit speed limiter starting procedure. You didn't seem certain as to what you needed to be doing.

Tough long race that.

Only qualied 12th despite getting a 1:54.7 :o, every other bugger was getting in the 1:51's to 1:53's  :'(  No matter what i tried i couldnt get any quicker times as when i got one part dead right i made an error elsewhere on the lap ::)

Race start went reasonably okay except we all seemed strung out crossing the line and i seemed to be 2-3 secs down by the craner curves :( and these fairly even matched cars its hard to make up that deficit unless others make errors.
Anyway, found myself upto 9th place and thats where i stayed for an age, battling the ever present Adam Parle who seemed to be continually harrassing my ass and we swapped places more than once. Great racing teamie  8) That was a big scary moment when you lost it big time and i was flat out in 4th trying to guess which way your spinning car was going to end up ! :o...the downside was it allowed that rascal Shark to close right up where he continued to annoy me like a mosquito for 3 or 4 laps before i got out of shape under braking at the chicane and he waltzed away nicking my place :-[
Brought it home 10th in the end, just couldnt seem to close the gap on the front boys at all. So not a job well done :(
Great pace up front guys  8)

I found coming back to GTL after so much GTR2 was really enjoyable. I'd done no practice at all beforehand but after a small setup change I felt really comfortable in the car and really enjoyed the feeling of being able to take liberties with the car I just wouldn't get away with in a modern GT car, sliding into and out of corners and being able to use a wider choice of lines with the slower cars.


I had GTL PD up too (though I really need to find a way to mount my laptop behind my wheel because glancing down to the left to read it was rather distracting) and although tyre wear wasn't bad the tyres were overpressure, especially the left rear, and it was definitely having an effect on the handling.

The Healey has very iffy brakes and you really can't use more than about 60% brake pressure for more than a fraction of a second. I've modified the controller settings in my .PLR file to give finer control which helps a bit but basically you have to pump those suckers, you can't use them with a single smooth application like you would in a modern car.

Having said that the Healey is quite happy to leave massive smoke trails everywhere with no obvious ill effects. ;D ;D ;D

Yea great racing. Sorry if the pace lap was too quick - I really wasn't sure how fast to go as that was the 1st (and probably last!) time I had to lead the pack around! :)

Had great dicing with Ruskus and Pero for the whole race. I also had the PD monitor going (coz have been having trouble with my throttle), and noticed after about 12 laps that my tyre temps were really low (fronts about 50; rears about 65) which is way lower than the 6 laps of qualy I did so realised I wasnt pushing enough but I was worried about ditching it. Got my confidence back about half way through and started catching up on the 2 spots I lost through being too conservative. Was praying for another lap or two as I think I had the run on Ruskus at the end as his tyres faded and mine were still coming up to temperature. So, note to self; push from lap one - especially against these fast buggers ;)

See you next time!
(and sorry once again to Pero for skidding into you :(    )

Ah, apparently the wear units in GTL PD monitor, as well as the other PD monitors I've found out are in fact magic Simbin units, it's not a percentage.

We don't know what the max value is, but when it reaches 30 the pit crew call you in for worn tyres.

I just can't seem to get my pc set up right at all.
Just when i was getting between 50 & 60 fps, i installed a new soundcard, and everything has gone pete tong - only gettin 30 fps max at Donnington, so had no chance to correct any small mistakes, which then lead to big ones.

I will have to spend all day tommorrow setting up again!

But a good race by all - grats to all who finished.

What happened to you Matt - disco'd at start?

afaik the magic number is 60 (it was stated in a GTR MoTeC setup guide I had ages ago, but that was probably a guess by the author!).

Does the PD monitor have a real-time data logging function?  if it logs the values for tyer wear you could do a burn-out and see what the wear value is just before they blow up.  I might try that if I get bored one evening :D

No logging no, but I thought of that already. Tried it once and blew the engine before the tyres went. Then I was too tired to try again.  ;D

Sorry about the start guys,(my fault,thought the rolling starts applied to rF and GTR, :-[,won't happen again)

Really enjoyed the race,apart from two unforced error's,so hopfully if Im ok, I'll see you guys next week.