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Title: UKGPL Season 37 (2020) 1967 F1 Sprint - Oakes Field - Sep 13
Post by: Rainier on September 07, 2020, 11:07:51 AM +0100
Season 37 F1 SPRINT – Round 4 –  Oakes Field, Nassau 1966

The fourth race in the 1967 Sprint series sees us taking a boat across the Atlantic Ocean to Nassau in the Bahamas. The first Nassau Trophy Road Races meeting for Sports Cars was held in 1954 on the Windsor Field Course. For 1957, the meeting was moved to another airfield location, the 5 mile Oakes Course, which was closer to the main population areas on the island. The new course, despite being quite bumpy in places, was relatively well-received, though there were a number of close shaves near the pits as it was too close to the racing line. To combat this, the race direction of the track was changed to clockwise in 1958. The circuit was also shortened to 4.5 miles by cutting out the original Blackbeard's Bend and Ecky's Twist, whilst a new left-right-left corner combination was built to connect the Sassoon Straight and Bethell's Pass, cutting out the tight hairpin which had previously taken the cars off the runway. Due to much needed track repairs and the lack of additional funding by the Bahamian government, as well as competition from more races running in December, the event was discontinued after the 1966 meeting. It is the clockwise 4.5 mile Oakes Course that we will be using for tonight's race.

Server = UKGPL_10
IP = 217.155.118.41
Race date = Sunday 13-09-2020
Time = 21:00 UK time (21:00 GMT)
Track = Papyrus original
Race length = 20 Laps (50 minutes)
Variant = 1967
60fps patch used   = 60fpsV2newmod
Damage Model = Intermediate
Qualifying time = 30-45 minutes
Replay =  here (https://www.sendspace.com/file/bu3k2c)

Password: see above (#post_event_password)
Driver lists can be found on the championship standings page (https://www.simracing.org.uk/smf/index.php?action=LM2R&group=1152&theme=6)
Please check the Season 37 details (https://www.simracing.org.uk/smf/index.php?action=LM2R&group=1102&theme=6) regarding rules and the 1967 F1 Sprint Championship pages (https://www.simracing.org.uk/smf/index.php?action=LM2R&group=1152&theme=6) in particular.

Drivers must complete 50% of each race to score.

"Works" drivers are not allowed any resets.
"Privateer" drivers are allowed a maximum of one reset with a compulsory Stop & Go within two laps.
Drivers are reminded that Lap 1 incidents carry an extra 1 place penalty.
Only reported incidents will be moderated.

The chassis token system is explained on the championship standings page. Please ensure you choose a chassis that is within your budget, which can be seen by hovering the mouse over your points total in the standings.

Please restrict chat to pit messages including at the end of the race until ALL drivers still racing have crossed the line.



Works drivers are :
Angex
Bagrupp
Doni Yourth
Pepe Higdon
Ricardo Da Silva
Dulima
Phil Thornton
Baab
MagicArsouille
Arf Arf Arf
Gareth
Iestyn Davies
DuFossa
Markus Friedrich



Privateers drivers are :
Albert Hallu
Billy Nobrakes
Dave Curtis
David Sochenna
PaulV
Francesco
Bernie Darwin
karliss
Daniel_San
Badblood


Title: Re: UKGPL Season 37 (2020) 1967 F1 Sprint - Oakes Field - Sep 13
Post by: Billy Nobrakes on September 08, 2020, 09:52:49 PM +0100
Link to the track download = http://srmz.net/index.php?showtopic=11166



Title: Re: UKGPL Season 37 (2020) 1967 F1 Sprint - Oakes Field - Sep 13
Post by: Billy Nobrakes on September 08, 2020, 10:54:58 PM +0100
Link to the track download = http://srmz.net/index.php?showtopic=11166
My other tip - if you have a Shift R find out where the pit lane entrance is - it's more cunningly hidden than the Batcave.


Title: Re: UKGPL Season 37 (2020) 1967 F1 Sprint - Oakes Field - Sep 13
Post by: BadBlood on September 13, 2020, 08:12:21 PM +0100
Slightly gutted I won't be running in this. Lost my SRMZ access again :(

See you next time.


Title: Re: UKGPL Season 37 (2020) 1967 F1 Sprint - Oakes Field - Sep 13
Post by: dave curtis on September 13, 2020, 08:35:17 PM +0100
Slightly gutted I won't be running in this. Lost my SRMZ access again :(

See you next time.

Is that due to track download?  If so, have temporarily uploaded the single-install to:  https://www.sendspace.com/file/49tu5q (https://www.sendspace.com/file/49tu5q)

(hopefully you remember the track!)

Cheers,
Dave.



Title: Re: UKGPL Season 37 (2020) 1967 F1 Sprint - Oakes Field - Sep 13
Post by: Pepe Higdon on September 13, 2020, 11:19:14 PM +0100
This is at least the third time so far this season that I've managed to get in front of some poor guy and keep him behind me for what must seem like three eternities. Today it was Andreas' turn to experience frustration at a level that would make a laboratory animal howl for mercy. For the last 15 laps he was never more than 0.25 seconds behind me. Although I was making a bunch of little mistakes and taking lines that are not described in any How to Drive a Car manual, my errors were never quite grim enough to let him through. The replay, seen even at 3x speed, is just embarrassing to me. I look like someone who warmed up for the race by drinking four liters of beer in the bar across the street from the track.

I pledge on all that I hold holy and dear that this winter I will really learn how to drive an F1 sim car. And this time I mean it. But now I think I'll have those four liters of beer. I'm exhausted.


Title: Re: UKGPL Season 37 (2020) 1967 F1 Sprint - Oakes Field - Sep 13
Post by: dave curtis on September 13, 2020, 11:41:53 PM +0100

Server replay available from:  here (https://www.sendspace.com/file/bu3k2c)
Also added to event details page.


Title: Re: UKGPL Season 37 (2020) 1967 F1 Sprint - Oakes Field - Sep 13
Post by: bernie on September 14, 2020, 10:49:15 AM +0100
driven this track previously with the 55 mod but with the 67 F1's it felt like driving a completely new track . No set up so used qually as a  practice session for the Brabby but found I couldnt put a lap together , so in desperation I loaded a brands set up for the race hoping it might improve things . Comes the race I had perhaps 3 laps when I didnt either spin out or run out of road and go grass cutting ,so many spins It felt like I was driving a Zanussi washer , the only thing missing was a s/r to complete the set .
Was amazed to find I was ONLY 2laps behind the leaders who I am sure were using a shortcut somewhere .
Must try harder next time
Grats to the podium and all those who did there best to avoid my wayward driving  ::)


Title: Re: UKGPL Season 37 (2020) 1967 F1 Sprint - Oakes Field - Sep 13
Post by: Billy Nobrakes on September 14, 2020, 11:31:33 AM +0100
Congratulations to Markus for his first win in UKGPL. Looks like his time might have been quick enough to have won the full GP race.

I have just acquired a new set of Fanatec pedals with a load cell braking. To be honest they are taking a while to get used to & I need to play around with my set up to get the best out of them.
The track is quite a challenge but I was relatively pleased to have completed the race (didn't get lapped) with only two visits to the scenery. The first when I missed a gear & the second on the final lap where it didn't make any difference to the result.
Hopefully be a little more competitive at Rouen.

 




Title: Re: UKGPL Season 37 (2020) 1967 F1 Sprint - Oakes Field - Sep 13
Post by: Rainier on September 14, 2020, 01:06:15 PM +0100
I set Markus Fiedrich as a Works driver !


Title: Re: UKGPL Season 37 (2020) 1967 F1 Sprint - Oakes Field - Sep 13
Post by: Phil Thornton on September 14, 2020, 06:33:22 PM +0100
Marcus is a works driver in the sprint series. We expected most works drivers would opt for the challenge of the Grand Prix length race but it wasn't mandatory.


Title: Re: UKGPL Season 37 (2020) 1967 F1 Sprint - Oakes Field - Sep 13
Post by: francesco on September 15, 2020, 07:30:21 AM +0100
Quote
I have just acquired a new set of Fanatec pedals with a load cell braking.
In my opinion is a good purchase.Is expensive but ,until now,it's worth it.Have you also the steering wheel Billy?
I have both and be careful to not set the angle of the steering wheel too narrow otherwise ,when the limit is reached,goes  into lockdown.
Now i have 400 degree and the problem is solved.


Title: Re: UKGPL Season 37 (2020) 1967 F1 Sprint - Oakes Field - Sep 13
Post by: Markus Friedrich on September 15, 2020, 09:23:12 AM +0100
Thanks Billy,
I am quite happy to achieve that after a far from perfect start where I lost a couple of places. However, this resulted in the great opportunity to battle with Doni for a few laps. This was a real pleasure and I finally overtook him when I was able to accelerate very smoothly out of the first (real) corner onto the long straight. The better acceleration of the Ferrari in comparison to the BRM did the rest.

You all are right that my pace is better suited to the Long GP Series. I think it is the same for Baab/Bob Whitwell.
I did not know about my pace in comparison to others here before I signed up. These races here are still my very first online races. Before, I only drove GPL in single player mode and mostly did short races. So I had almost no experience for GPs that last longer than 20-30min. A 50min GP was and still is a long GP for me. I still can hardly imagine to do this for 1.5h. But now I am thinking about trying a long GP for one of the next events...

One other thing I do not like so much about the Long GP Series is that they abandoned the token system and assigned cars to each driver so that you always drive with the same car. I am wondering which car the admins would choose for me.


Title: Re: UKGPL Season 37 (2020) 1967 F1 Sprint - Oakes Field - Sep 13
Post by: Billy Nobrakes on September 15, 2020, 09:34:31 AM +0100
Markus,
You are more than welcome to compete in the Sprint series this season.
Usually we have 2 grids for the 67 series - split between the faster & slower drivers.
This year we have a 90 minute race on full GP settings & a 50 minute race. Most of the faster drivers are in the GP group but there are a few - Doni, Barb & Arf that prefer the shorter distance. That's fine.
It's really your choice.


Title: Re: UKGPL Season 37 (2020) 1967 F1 Sprint - Oakes Field - Sep 13
Post by: Billy Nobrakes on September 15, 2020, 09:38:34 AM +0100
Quote
I have just acquired a new set of Fanatec pedals with a load cell braking.
In my opinion is a good purchase.Is expensive but ,until now,it's worth it.Have you also the steering wheel Billy?
I have both and be careful to not set the angle of the steering wheel too narrow otherwise ,when the limit is reached,goes  into lockdown.
Now i have 400 degree and the problem is solved.
Hi Fran,
I am still getting used to the pedals & using my old G27 wheel.
When my wife has forgotten about how much I spent on the pedals I might think about upgrading the wheel. Thanks for the tip about the wheel rotation.


Title: Re: UKGPL Season 37 (2020) 1967 F1 Sprint - Oakes Field - Sep 13
Post by: EvilClive on September 15, 2020, 11:32:16 AM +0100
Hi Billy,
Quite interested in your hardware/controls upgrade as my G25 wheel and pedals have done many years of hard service and eventually they are going to need a replacement. Christmas is not too far away and as I consider that I have been a good boy this year  ::), Santa might be persuaded to bring me something nice  ;)

Keep us informed on your progress and acclimatisation with the pedals, and certainly if you manage to smuggle in a wheel as well. Other than Logitech G29's etc the only other viable option does seem to be Fanatec, but I have never touched one of those devices so any info/feedback is good. BTW, is there a Fanatec shifter? or do you know if the G25 shifter would still function with Fanatec pedals and wheel?

Unrelated, but sort of relevant  :wacko:, if you have a little spare cash???
https://www.coventrytelegraph.net/news/motoring/aston-martin-unveils-racing-simulator-18932642


Title: Re: UKGPL Season 37 (2020) 1967 F1 Sprint - Oakes Field - Sep 13
Post by: Cookie on September 15, 2020, 01:38:30 PM +0100
Clive the G25 shifter and pedals can be used as separate devices with diy solutions or with a dongle by Leo Bodnar.

I myself use the fanatec CSL V1 pedals with the G27 and its shifter.
The fanatec pedals have an USB connection to the PC and are recognized by Wdoze with driver and by Linux out of the box.

Yes there are other shifters, but the problems with GPL are well known. GPLShift does not know it - Fairshift forgets the top gears..

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=62ETwZq3P4Q


Title: Re: UKGPL Season 37 (2020) 1967 F1 Sprint - Oakes Field - Sep 13
Post by: AnGex on September 15, 2020, 02:08:06 PM +0100
This is at least the third time so far this season that I've managed to get in front of some poor guy and keep him behind me for what must seem like three eternities. Today it was Andreas' turn to experience frustration at a level that would make a laboratory animal howl for mercy. For the last 15 laps he was never more than 0.25 seconds behind me. Although I was making a bunch of little mistakes and taking lines that are not described in any How to Drive a Car manual, my errors were never quite grim enough to let him through. The replay, seen even at 3x speed, is just embarrassing to me. I look like someone who warmed up for the race by drinking four liters of beer in the bar across the street from the track.

I pledge on all that I hold holy and dear that this winter I will really learn how to drive an F1 sim car. And this time I mean it. But now I think I'll have those four liters of beer. I'm exhausted.

Worry not to much Pepe.  ;) My health was not good that evening, so my goal was just to finish and get some Points. Markus was just going to destroy this plan towards the first chicane when he hit me from the back.  :(
Your driving was just okay for me, Pepe.  :thumbup1:


Title: Re: UKGPL Season 37 (2020) 1967 F1 Sprint - Oakes Field - Sep 13
Post by: Markus Friedrich on September 15, 2020, 02:21:11 PM +0100
@ AnGex
I am very sorry I did so and it was completely my fault. I just lifted my brake too early... I should have been more cautious. Apology for that.
Unfortunately I ended up behind you in this situation as I was pushed onto the grass (including a contact) directly at the start. Not that this excuses my mistake.


Title: Re: UKGPL Season 37 (2020) 1967 F1 Sprint - Oakes Field - Sep 13
Post by: Baab on September 15, 2020, 08:56:34 PM +0100

You all are right that my pace is better suited to the Long GP Series. I think it is the same for Baab/Bob Whitwell.


Yeah I understand that this was the expectation, I didn't opt for that series because the Sprint races are already on the long side for me, don't want to stress my eyes more than necessary and living in Germany the races finish around 11:15pm...which is late enough for a school night!  Doni seems to be doing a full season in the BRM...unless he's harvesting tokens!  I am also happy to drive the tank to make the racing a bit closer.

Regarding the race, I haven't seen a replay yet but Arf mentioned he came together with Markus into the first corner as Markus avoided me, I wasn't aware that I'd caused anything but assumed there must have been an incident as I immediately had a small lead.  After a few laps I stretched my lead to 12 secs, but then Markus passed Doni and hunted my down in no time!  I thought I was going pretty well lapping in 25/6s but Markus seemed to be down in the 23/4s.  Markus halved my lead then I spun and handed him the lead.  After that he drove away, nothing I could do, then for good measure I had another spin or two!!  One of those spins was when I hit someone who had crashed and was at the side of the track on the exit of the last turn.  Apologies to whoever that was, couldn't avoid you on the line I took.

Thanks for the racing/hosting/modding,

Bob.


Title: Re: UKGPL Season 37 (2020) 1967 F1 Sprint - Oakes Field - Sep 13
Post by: Markus Friedrich on September 16, 2020, 09:05:40 AM +0100
@ Bob
I watched the replay again and it was Arf turning to the left in the first bend when you came a bit closer to the middle of the track. So I think he did that in order to avoid contact with you. The problem was we were three-wide into the bend and I was at the very left of the track. So when Arf started to turn to the left he turned into me. However, from your cockpit view you could not even see that Arf was having such a good start and that he was there. And you easily left enough space for one other car into the bend. But a three-wide was another story.
From my cockpit view I also could not really see where you were. I also did not really know if it was a three-wide. I only knew Arf was to my right side and when he left my blind spot he already was very close and coming even closer. I tried to stick closer to the left, but then there was already a contact. I was not aware that he did this to avoid a potential contact to another car on his right side.


Title: Re: UKGPL Season 37 (2020) 1967 F1 Sprint - Oakes Field - Sep 13
Post by: Pepe Higdon on September 16, 2020, 12:18:41 PM +0100
One other thing I do not like so much about the Long GP Series is that they abandoned the token system and assigned cars to each driver so that you always drive with the same car. I am wondering which car the admins would choose for me.

Markus, the way you've driven in the first couple of races, I'd say that you'd probably be assigned to a 1962 MGB.  :)


Title: Re: UKGPL Season 37 (2020) 1967 F1 Sprint - Oakes Field - Sep 13
Post by: AnGex on September 17, 2020, 01:53:04 PM +0100
@ AnGex
I am very sorry I did so and it was completely my fault. I just lifted my brake too early... I should have been more cautious. Apology for that.
Unfortunately I ended up behind you in this situation as I was pushed onto the grass (including a contact) directly at the start. Not that this excuses my mistake.

You see what happened, so you can learn from it.
 I wanted to make a report first, but you will pay more attention in the future. At least I hope so.
Because of our situation I ended up behind Pepe, for example, just like you ended up behind Bob. That's how it is sometimes in racing.

See you next time.


Title: Re: UKGPL Season 37 (2020) 1967 F1 Sprint - Oakes Field - Sep 13
Post by: Rainier on September 21, 2020, 02:01:15 PM +0100
Moderation posted.

Thank you very much Francesco to add replays when you report an incident !
It is very useful ...but could you create replays > 2 seconds  ;)
10 sec before contact + 10 sec after contact would be great !  


Title: Re: UKGPL Season 37 (2020) 1967 F1 Sprint - Oakes Field - Sep 13
Post by: Arf Arf Arf on September 27, 2020, 12:08:46 PM +0100
Belated thanks (for the mod review, exactly as I saw it) and apols to Markus for L1 bump, I think I had more room that I realised.

I'm amazed I made it to the end of this race, as, never mind a couple of self induced spins, I got collected by a few others, esp. in the last left hander. ANy one of those incidents would have ended my race any other day. Not so much space at the side of the track at Rouen...

Arf