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Title: UKAC Season 16 Season 16 RSR Challenge - Anglesey - Sep 16
Post by: FullMetalGasket on September 11, 2020, 01:35:17 PM +0100
(https://i.postimg.cc/T1By0B1g/Anglesey.png)


Welcome to the start of the Porsche RSR Challenge - This is loosely based on our first outing in these cars several years ago, so expect very short qualifying sessions.
The 1st series featured single lap qualifying which was a bit awkward to monitor, so I will be reducing the qualifying sessions to only allow time for 2 flying laps.
So make sure you have space around you and get a good 'banker' in before you go nuts ;)

Password: see above

Practice: 19:30 (53 mins)
Qual: 20:23 (7 mins)
Race: 20:30  (30 mins + 1 lap)


Cars allowed:
1972 Porsche RSR
(Kunos Porsche pack #1 add-on)

Skin pack available here: https://www.dropbox.com/s/vp9qetzvztkfnk0/RSR%20Skinpack.zip?dl=0 (https://www.dropbox.com/s/vp9qetzvztkfnk0/RSR%20Skinpack.zip?dl=0)
Drop it into your assetto corsa folder - It shouldn't over-write anything unless you already have any of the skins included.


Track: Anglesey - Dry
Download link: https://www.racedepartment.com/downloads/anglesey-circuit-trac-m%C3%B4n-wet-weather.9100/ (https://www.racedepartment.com/downloads/anglesey-circuit-trac-m%C3%B4n-wet-weather.9100/)


Live Timing: here (http://stracker.simracing.org.uk:50041/lapstat)

Time of Day Setting: 13:30
Weather: Mid-clear
Start: Standing
Tyre wear: Normal
Fuel consumption: Normal
Pit-stops: Not required

Server track settings:
SESSION_START=100
RANDOMNESS=0
LAP_GAIN=0
SESSION_TRANSFER=N/a

Damage: 60%

Password: see above

PLP App - Not used in this series. Cutting will be monitored on replay and penalties issued for excessive cutting.[/quote]


Title: Re: UKAC Season 16 Season 16 RSR Challenge - Anglesey - Sep 16
Post by: IbnSolmyr on September 12, 2020, 09:29:37 PM +0100
Tim, you seem to not read the series thread anymore  :laugh: so I post my questions here :

30mn is a nice quick format. Couldn't we consider a 2nd race for example in full reverse grid ?  Tongue

These Lotus are lovely, maybe a future series ?  Roll Eyes

And here comes a note : did you notice that Pau '74 suffers a bad surfaces join right after turn 6 ? It easily can lead to a destroyed car if ever the driver gets a little bit too much on there.  ;)


Title: Re: UKAC Season 16 Season 16 RSR Challenge - Anglesey - Sep 16
Post by: FullMetalGasket on September 13, 2020, 11:21:41 AM +0100
I did respond - it's on page 3  :P
I'm not adding 2nd races after having already announced the series, and as I said in the announcement thread I won't consider reversed grids - unless we start a Wreckfest championship that is, then it'll be pretty much mandatory!

I'll have some controlled crashes at Pau to check it - if it's an issue I'll just switch to the '60s version we've used in the past. It's identical, but mostly uses Hay bales for safety ;D


Title: Re: UKAC Season 16 Season 16 RSR Challenge - Anglesey - Sep 16
Post by: IbnSolmyr on September 13, 2020, 12:35:08 PM +0100
It's pretty weird, the thread didn't want to actually refresh when I was asking it to, untill very recently. It's only today that all those posts appeared.  ???

About the reverse grid, I actually have very few experience about it and just had that idea as a comet in my head, I just wanted to know if we could make the fun last more with a 2nd race per event.  ;)


Title: Re: UKAC Season 16 Season 16 RSR Challenge - Anglesey - Sep 16
Post by: Syd Drake on September 13, 2020, 04:04:59 PM +0100
Link to live timing is not leading to Anglesey, it's opening to Brands Hatch - Indy for me.


Title: Re: UKAC Season 16 Season 16 RSR Challenge - Anglesey - Sep 16
Post by: IbnSolmyr on September 13, 2020, 04:51:34 PM +0100
Link to live timing is not leading to Anglesey, it's opening to Brands Hatch - Indy for me.

Click the "Show last combo" tab, then select wednesday.


Title: Re: UKAC Season 16 Season 16 RSR Challenge - Anglesey - Sep 16
Post by: FullMetalGasket on September 13, 2020, 06:31:33 PM +0100
And here comes a note : did you notice that Pau '74 suffers a bad surfaces join right after turn 6 ? It easily can lead to a destroyed car if ever the driver gets a little bit too much on there.  ;)

The bad join is a kerb with some missing textures (with shaders patch at least - guessing the same in 'normal' AC)
If people want to throw their cars over it then that's up to them - it doesn't cause damage or sticktion to cars that hit it so I call it fair game.
There's no actual speed gain cutting over it as it upsets the car under braking, so I would expect most drivers to go around it like I have been until you pointed it out.

The interesting hay bale placements are more risky if you ask me, as is the overly loose qualifying setup I was playing with while re-testing the track  :D


Title: Re: UKAC Season 16 Season 16 RSR Challenge - Anglesey - Sep 16
Post by: Syd Drake on September 13, 2020, 10:19:36 PM +0100
Link to live timing is not leading to Anglesey, it's opening to Brands Hatch - Indy for me.

Click the "Show last combo" tab, then select wednesday.

That works, thanks.


Title: Re: UKAC Season 16 Season 16 RSR Challenge - Anglesey - Sep 16
Post by: Stefan aka Postal on September 14, 2020, 07:34:27 AM +0100
There is a slight chance that I will miss this first round sadly.


Title: Re: UKAC Season 16 Season 16 RSR Challenge - Anglesey - Sep 16
Post by: Mark J on September 15, 2020, 11:44:04 AM +0100
I'm afraid i will be missing too for Round 1. I will only be a part time attendee now for this series as it clashes with a PCGB E-Sports series i am now in. Unfortunately they didnt publish the calender until recently and then i realised the dates clashed.  :( (It runs bi-weekly).


Title: Re: UKAC Season 16 Season 16 RSR Challenge - Anglesey - Sep 16
Post by: FullMetalGasket on September 15, 2020, 05:42:13 PM +0100
Skin pack is now uploaded - They'll obviously be in place for the race but I may not get time to add them to the server tonight or for pre-event practice.
Go to the 1st post or the championship announcement  :)


Title: Re: UKAC Season 16 Season 16 RSR Challenge - Anglesey - Sep 16
Post by: Manteos on September 16, 2020, 11:16:02 AM +0100
Just to avoid to miss the race, race start is at 20.30 UK time? So GMT + 1?

Is that correct?

Thank you in advance.

See you later


Title: Re: UKAC Season 16 Season 16 RSR Challenge - Anglesey - Sep 16
Post by: spanner on September 16, 2020, 12:35:32 PM +0100
We are currently in BST, so that is GMT+1 yes


Title: Re: UKAC Season 16 Season 16 RSR Challenge - Anglesey - Sep 16
Post by: Manteos on September 16, 2020, 02:45:53 PM +0100
We are currently in BST, so that is GMT+1 yes

Thank you Spanner


Title: Re: UKAC Season 16 Season 16 RSR Challenge - Anglesey - Sep 16
Post by: spanner on September 16, 2020, 05:24:32 PM +0100
hmm.. I'm 3secs off, the lap comparison says I need to up my corner speed yet I can only see that it will make the car too loose as I cant lean on the front end as it is.

I'll be circulating at the back!


Title: Re: UKAC Season 16 Season 16 RSR Challenge - Anglesey - Sep 16
Post by: Syd Drake on September 16, 2020, 05:56:47 PM +0100
hmm.. I'm 3secs off, the lap comparison says I need to up my corner speed yet I can only see that it will make the car too loose as I cant lean on the front end as it is.

I'll be circulating at the back!
Same here, I'm way off the pace as well, you'll have company. If I push more car swaps ends. Hell, sometimes it swaps ends even if I don't push.


Title: Re: UKAC Season 16 Season 16 RSR Challenge - Anglesey - Sep 16
Post by: Lorenzo Galluzzi on September 16, 2020, 06:10:03 PM +0100
will join the championship from the second race, sorry for tonight, i did my best but couldn't make it :'(


Title: Re: UKAC Season 16 Season 16 RSR Challenge - Anglesey - Sep 16
Post by: FullMetalGasket on September 16, 2020, 07:05:00 PM +0100
hmm.. I'm 3secs off, the lap comparison says I need to up my corner speed yet I can only see that it will make the car too loose as I cant lean on the front end as it is.

I'll be circulating at the back!

A big chunk of time comes from T3 - if you're on the power too soon you'll scrub loads of time.
In a lot of cases despite thinking you want more turn you actually want the opposite. Understeer is a natural traction control as you can get on the power harder in a car that doesn't want to turn (Most of my drifty setups in really old cars are massively understeery).

Also play with your gearing, unnecessary gear changes are just as bad as having too few revs when exiting a corner. In really slow corners the problem is often that you have too many revs/too much power.


Title: Re: UKAC Season 16 Season 16 RSR Challenge - Anglesey - Sep 16
Post by: Syd Drake on September 16, 2020, 09:23:37 PM +0100
Mixed bag of a race for me. Qualified 6th and kept it at the start. Then Mateo spun and I was 5th. Jos had a bad exit on the left corner down the hill, and I was 4th. I was doing consistent if not fast laps. And just as I was side by side with Jos, about half way through the race, my screen went black. I pressed on the brakes, moved the mouse and screen came back but I was down in 6th, and my framerate was not very good after this. Don't think it's track specific, as I've had it happen before, though very rarely. I kept fairly close to 5th, but then saw that there will be 1 lap more than I expected. In  the end I ran out of fuel after T3 going up the hill on the last lap.
Congrats Tim on the win and the rest on the podium.


Title: Re: UKAC Season 16 Season 16 RSR Challenge - Anglesey - Sep 16
Post by: Manteos on September 16, 2020, 10:02:43 PM +0100
As I expected that was my all time worse race :laugh:

Didn't run AC by ages and this is not the easiest car to drive. My setup was complete rubbish. Every time I put the right foot on the throttle I lose control. Same happened when braking.
I guess my actual pace was near 1.40.000. One lap every 4 I managed to stay on the grey bit  :-\. With manual cluctch I had a lot of issues, destroying my gearbox after less than 20 minutes, so my race ended very soon.

I will try to remember in which way I managed to finish some 1h race 1 year ago with the GPL mod and manual shifting. Every car in Assetto Corsa Competizione is a lot easier to drive, and I completely forgot how to get some pace in these old wheelbarrows. I looked like an old man completely drunk driving around the track. The fact that I was actually completely sober doesn't testifies in my favor :D

Will try to be more prepared for the next.

Grats to Tim, Fabri and Solmyr.

See you chaps


Title: Re: UKAC Season 16 Season 16 RSR Challenge - Anglesey - Sep 16
Post by: FullMetalGasket on September 16, 2020, 10:48:53 PM +0100
I might have uploaded the wrong results file here... Hopefully we'll have tonight's results showing by the weekend  :ninja:


Title: Re: UKAC Season 16 Season 16 RSR Challenge - Anglesey - Sep 16
Post by: Jos Ogos on September 17, 2020, 09:49:14 AM +0100
Great race yesterday after a few months on the dock.
Anglesey is a beautiful and challenging track that I didn't know before this race. The Porsche 911 Carrera RSR, a classic. Great combo selection  :clap:

The first few laps showed my lack of practice for a few months with a couple of mistakes... I managed to mitigate them by prompt recoveries (a good sign  :sweatdrop:) and minimised time lost... That, actually, made the race more interesting as I had no pace to fight the top three (congrats to the podium!) and could enjoy some fighting with Syd and Mark.
 
Considering this, the race couldn't have gone better. I realised (thanks to my CrewChief) that I didn't have enough fuel to keep the pace I had after recovering P4... A massive challenge to control my fuel then until the end... It was really on the edge (0.2 litres left at the end!). Running at that poor pace allowed Mark to catch up with me and add some pressure at the end of the race.
All in all, great fights (a bit tight in T2 - T3 and terrific fun! Enjoy.

You can watch the race here (from my perspective): https://youtu.be/dsB9oHawKSQ (https://youtu.be/dsB9oHawKSQ)

Jos Ogos


Title: Re: UKAC Season 16 Season 16 RSR Challenge - Anglesey - Sep 16
Post by: goldtop on September 17, 2020, 10:42:38 AM +0100
No practice for this one so just kept out of the way at the start and took things easy. Used an old setup which seemed to work ok but had a few issues with brake balance causing entry oversteer which caused a few  ::) moments. Put in plenty of fuel because I don't trust fuel apps!

Made up a few places through other's misfortunes in the early laps and settled down to a nice battle with Bob. He seemed quicker but my usual slow in/faster out style made me difficult to pass. Enjoyed the track more than I thought and always enjoy the RSR.



Title: Re: UKAC Season 16 Season 16 RSR Challenge - Anglesey - Sep 16
Post by: Bob on September 17, 2020, 11:22:40 AM +0100
Really enjoyed last night, find it a hard car to set up and it seems unpredictable at times. Made a mistake on first lap resulting in an off, sorry Frex my fault, but then settled into a race long battle with Goltop in front and Frex just behind. Great racing with these cars shame I'll miss next week, have fun.


Title: Re: UKAC Season 16 Season 16 RSR Challenge - Anglesey - Sep 16
Post by: frex on September 17, 2020, 12:24:14 PM +0100
Made a mistake on first lap resulting in an off, sorry Frex my fault

No worries Bob, I think it was a bit of a 50:50 one to be honest. Shame we were delayed, but the racing after was good. Close finish at the end! Congrats podium.


Title: Re: UKAC Season 16 Season 16 RSR Challenge - Anglesey - Sep 16
Post by: spanner on September 17, 2020, 12:48:29 PM +0100
You guys don't seem to have to fight with the auto-clutch like I do which make gear changes pretty unpredictable as its on a delay from when you click to change gear.

Tough race just driving the car for so long, while trying to avoid others on track! Glad to just finish tbh. enjoyable though.



Title: Re: UKAC Season 16 Season 16 RSR Challenge - Anglesey - Sep 16
Post by: IbnSolmyr on September 17, 2020, 02:27:52 PM +0100
Great 911, nice technical track.

Great vid Jos as always !

Quite unimpressed with the qualif session though : 2 laps to get the tires pressured, then I was behind someone slower and had to slow down to get a bit of room, which led me to bother Syd in turn. So the problem is that we'd need to keep a large room between every driver imo, quite like in actual modern F1.

Start was correct here, as the right side was a compensation to the little gap. Managed to get P3 after T2, then P2 because of the Matteo's out. I seemed to be able to hook me up to Tim, but then I realised I had forgotten to use my fan (behind my back), and it's particularly hot these days in France, so I started to get very uncomfortable over the time, proportionally with my attacking level. Sweat drops were rolling onto my face, in my eyes, etc.. Tim was grabbing some thenghs, so I slowed down a bit. But at a time I got distracted enough to miss my braking at T2 and went off. Restarting just behind Fabrizio, then the story repeated. I gave up on the idea to do better than 3rd, had a comfortable gap.
Eventually I realised that I was very short on fuel, so I started to save some. Finnished the 1 1/2 last lap lifting off and wasn't unfazed.

Congrats front guys, well done all finishers !

I hope for a better attendance next races.


Title: Re: UKAC Season 16 Season 16 RSR Challenge - Anglesey - Sep 16
Post by: FullMetalGasket on September 17, 2020, 09:32:01 PM +0100
Right, that's the league tables fixed and next weeks race sorted...

I really enjoyed last night - although a bit gutted that Manteos made a rapid exit as I was looking forward to one of our good old scraps!
Qualifying went well until the last second when I was well and truly jumped (Cracking time!).
Qualifying will not be getting longer - the original series only allowed 1 qualifying lap, I'm only allowing the extra time as I'm too lazy to check no-one does 2 laps after the race ;)

Due to nice weather here in Blighty I did very little practice before getting onto the server after I started it. As a result I had to learn the lines properly as I was about 2 seconds down on Manteos and Fabri and then have a play with my setup to make more pace.
As usual I had a drifty car, but made several changes to improve stability in the middle of practice, this unlocked the extra 0.5-1 second I needed to get to the front as I was able to not only brake deeper/trail brake more, but also had a stable enough car I could throw it into T1 like I did my Nissan last time I was here for real (T1 is a fantastic corner, it's not even especially hard in a road car but is just perfect for a good slide 8) ).

The improved setup seemed to fix my earlier problems of the car getting much slower over time as the balance changed, and instead got faster. I actually had a car that was pretty slow for the first 5 laps or so as the tires hadn't fully come upto temp/pressure enough to make the car handle well. After that I was having a ball!

Well done to Fabri and Maxime on the podium, bad luck to Manteos and Syd, and well done to all the finishers - hopefully we'll have more drivers at Pau to keep things interesting


Title: Re: UKAC Season 16 Season 16 RSR Challenge - Anglesey - Sep 16
Post by: Fabri Fibra on September 17, 2020, 11:18:24 PM +0100
I'm not a great fan of this kind of cars (I prefer open wheels or prototypes), so I consider a second place to be pretty good. Of course, I like the 911 in appearance, one of the most beautiful cars ever.

Congratulations to all! Very clean race.

PS: impressive crazy lap, Matteo, during Qual. Un giro a vita persa.