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Welcome to round 2 of the Porsche RSR Challenge - This is loosely based on our first outing in these cars several years ago, so expect very short qualifying sessions.
The 1st series featured single lap qualifying which was a bit awkward to monitor, so I will be reducing the qualifying sessions to only allow time for 2 flying laps.
So make sure you have space around you and get a good 'banker' in before you go nuts ;)

Password: see above

Practice: 19:30 (53 mins)
Qual: 20:23 (7 mins)          <- These times to change once I know the lap time
Race: 20:30  (30 mins + 1 lap)


Cars allowed:
1972 Porsche RSR
(Kunos Porsche pack #1 add-on)

Skin pack available here: https://www.dropbox.com/s/vp9qetzvztkfnk0/RSR%20Skinpack.zip?dl=0 (https://www.dropbox.com/s/vp9qetzvztkfnk0/RSR%20Skinpack.zip?dl=0)
Drop it into your assetto corsa folder - It shouldn't over-write anything unless you already have any of the skins included.


Track: Pau'74
Download link: https://www.racedepartment.com/downloads/circuit-de-pau-historique-1974.15616/ (https://www.racedepartment.com/downloads/circuit-de-pau-historique-1974.15616/)


Live Timing: here (http://stracker.simracing.org.uk:50041/lapstat)

Time of Day Setting: 14:30
Weather: Mid-clear
Start: Standing
Tyre wear: Normal
Fuel consumption: Normal
Pit-stops: Not required

Server track settings:
SESSION_START=100
RANDOMNESS=0
LAP_GAIN=0
SESSION_TRANSFER=N/a

Damage: 60%

Password: see above

PLP App - Not used in this series. Cutting will be monitored on replay and penalties issued for excessive cutting.

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I am so gonna crash a whole lot of 911's on this track!

Very appropriatly there is a corner called 'Foch' if you look on the map. Due to an awkwardly placed kurb just after it we'll all smash up a lot of RSR's here  ;D

That kink on the start straight is very dangerous as well. Seems like you're driving on the edge of the track, when suddenly you crash head on into hale bales like it's a wall, instant retirement. Stay well off the edge.

Hmm. i'm not sure i want to do that..

The second hairpin has bales on the outside that are in the road so you steer right as you then head toward the bales on the right that are in the road!

That whole middle section is just horrible, constantly turning, car too unstable to really brake into the chicane so end up driving around the long righthander really slowly.  Might be an idea to turn off damage. any touch with the barriers is just going to send you towards the other side, anyone following is just going to drive into you.

The problem with 0% damage is that it leads to what most traffic cops I've known refer to (in various words) as the Volvo bubble.
This is when people feel so safe that they stop consciously thinking about actually driving sensibly because they don't think they'll end up hurt.

I'm worried that doing this here will result in worse driving than some of the stuff seen during the Formula Easter races.
You might still finish, but your race could be utterly ruined by people doing stuff they would never consider if it might take them out of the race.
I'd like to see 100% damage personally (as we ran in GPL) because it forces people to learn how to drive safely and respectfully, I think it was tried once in AC and canned because of too many complaints.

As per the advice given prior to our last event here in 2017, get some good practice in to learn the track and you should be fine.
This is our last 'slow' technical track of the season, they only get bigger and faster from here :)

I can just see peoples races being ruined when someone hits the barrier and the track is pretty narrow there is no where to go. I'll need ot look at youtube for videos as i have no clue how to drive it in this car. Trying to go two wide doesnt fill me with hope either, and with the differing pace between people based on the last race people maybe too eager.

That isn't really a passing place though - If a car has somehow got alongside into the T4 hairpin then who-ever is on the inside should be clear long before reaching the bales. If they aren't then they really should be thinking about slotting in behind anyway, as they'll be on the outside of that massive left and will only cost themselves time and position.
As to can it be done though - yes it can, Both myself and the AI managed it in the quick race I used to take the track picture.

The main, safe passing places are T2 (La Gare) at the bottom of the hill, T3 (Pont Oscar) at the top, potentially the T4 hairpin (Lycee) if the car in front really messes up exiting T3, and T10 (Buisson). There are plenty of opportunities for an impromptu pass if the car ahead makes a mistake, but it's critical to be certain you can get through safely yourself as well.
In many cases this can just mean the following your opponent from slightly further back than normal.

People just need to leave racing room, AC has the in cockpit arrows as stock - with Helicorsa there really is no excuse for not seeing a car that's been alongside for the last 50 meters.

I'll record an on-board lap at some point over the weekend if I can.
Another trick is to learn it it a far more powerful car - if you can do that then the Porsche will be easy!

In spite that I wouldn't have picked this track, i fully agree with what is said here.
And I'm all for some 100% damage events.

That said, of course there will be some accidents and some drivers will be penalized while they did no fault at all. But it's also part of racing unfortunately.

See you at Spa!

This track is similar to Montecarlo.

Onboard as promised. Use the out lap for judging lines and braking points as I was going slower and concentrating on not wiping out on cold tires ;D
Lap 2 I hit the kurb on the long right hander, but otherwise it's pretty accurate aside from some drifting. Lap 3 was to see how silly I could get as the setup was clearly way too oversteery - something I'll have to sort for the race as the tires/me will never survive 30 minutes.

https://youtu.be/iM6P6Up_4LY (https://youtu.be/iM6P6Up_4LY)

I have to say this track looks nearly as good in pancake-vision as it does in VR 8)

I've also made some better track cams as the defaults aren't great.

You can get them here: https://www.dropbox.com/s/7eo7mfloawb707x/Pau74%20cams.rar?dl=0 (https://www.dropbox.com/s/7eo7mfloawb707x/Pau74%20cams.rar?dl=0) drop them into "*your steam folder*\assettocorsa\content\tracks\pau_1974\data

Preview =
https://youtu.be/CylFuAV9Oag (https://youtu.be/CylFuAV9Oag)

Wow, in VR is crazy!

I'm going to die! Can't even see the bales because of the shadows.

I'm actually thinking to move time of day to close to 12 due to that, or maybe even into morning if that angles thins better - I'm willing to grant that shadows are a legit safety concern on some turns here  :D

At least I'm doing T1 better since seeing how you do it in the video :) Still way to slow through Foch. I wish I could control slides like you did at Avenue :)

Don't worry about emulating that Syd - I can't remember where the setup is from but it clearly isn't suitable for Pau.
Not drifting quite so much should still be faster over race distance (Probably is fast over a flying lap if I don't crash though, Manteos will match/beat me without so much as a small skid probably ;) )

Half the reason I decided to go drifting was that by the middle of the 2nd lap it was clear my rear tires were aready over temp/pressure.
It's a huge amount of fun, although drifting a 911 on slicks is very hard work!

I spent a couple of hours trying to understand how to downshift without scratching the gearbox, but I was unsuccessful. I'll try to race but I bet that even this time my gearbox won't last more than 20 minutes. The worse thing is that I never managed to do more than 5 or 6 laps without smashing my car somewhere on a titanium coated hay bales, so I bet that gearbox won't be the main issue during the race.

This combo is simply murderous ;D

"Que sera sera, Whathever will be will be..."  ::) ::)

I might open a Porsche Parts business in Pau, think i will have a lot of customers for new bumpers, bonnets and gearboxes  ;D

Braking into T1 at full chat with other cars at the end of each lap will be an eye-opener  :o

Gonna be tough tonight, can't find a good setup, struggling with the rear, anyway the panorama is not that bad  ;D

Nice track to....sitting in a nearest bar watch cars passing by when you have finished your 3rd bottle of cheap red wine. ;)

main thing i hate on this track are the jutting concrete bales so you cant even use the track width or its an instant dnf if you hit one.

Sorry, will be absent for this. Have a good one.

Lucky you  ;)

Miserable track....maybe ok if you have a rift but in single screen it's a joke. Highlight was dropping into a hole about 5 laps in, at least I didn't throw up  :wetfish:

I had a bit of difficulty "finding the pace" in qualifying, but I still got the third position on grid.

The start was good, but I had stay behind the first two. Unfortunately at the Lycée hairpin there was an unfortunate contact between me and Lorenzo, which made us lose contact with the leaders, and probably caused a mess to those behind.
I had to control Lorenzo for some laps, until he had some problems and he retired.

From here on I simply controlled the race, being far from the leaders and having a lot of advantage on 4th. I cruised in total relaxation. Going so slowly I avoided all risks.
Matteo's retirement (gearbox problems) gave me the second position.

Probably this was the race where I pushed less  :angel:

Lap-times of Tim and Matteo were truly remarkable.

Congratulations to everyone who finished and Tim for the win!

That was embarrassing. I manged 8 laps before the leaders caught me up, I bailed so as to not cause any problems. If this doesn't get any easier I think I'll be AWOL for the rest of the season  :-[

A tough round this one but a good result.  :)

Qualified quite well until with 2mins to go I got a tank slapper at t1 so missed last two laps of short qually. Shame as I dropped from 3rd to 5th I think in last minute.

Race start was good and clean up to the 3rd hairpin where a couple of cars caused a little clash but nothing major. But on the downhill final sector my car felt awful with cold fronts and this allowed Jos past me. I chased him hard for pretty much the entire race but unable to pass as he was always quicker in that last sector to pull a gap. He got a little respite mid race as that damn low kerb launched me and I lost about 4 seconds. But re closed and pressured him until the end. Finished 4th  :)

Stunning pace from Tim and Matteo around this track   :o

Exept from the chaos at the Lycee hairpin in the first lap I had a good race long battle with Maxime. Finally after many laps he made a slight mistake onto the s/f straight and I could overtake. That was solid and fair racing Maxime.

Kimi, what the hell were you doing mate? Out of control and smashing into the walls like you hadn't practiced this track. It caused another big crash into T1. Mistakes can be made here easily, but this looked just stupid to me..

Oh and congrats to the podium. Well done on this difficult track.

I still don't know how I did the qually lap - I ran a very understeering setup in qually to get better drive with a very tight diff, watching my gear changes through the final twisty section onto the start straight I think this is where a lot of the time came from. I was in 5th about 100 meters earlier than I ever could be on the race setup having the threaded the needle without lifting out of that last hairpin :o
It wasn't a very good setup to race with here though I decided, as it required crazy accuracy to go fast with. It was actually slower than the race one when driving carefully and was much harder to save if it wandered towards a wall....
The qually replay is almost boring to watch externally as there's none of the car movement visible in my race setup - I was almost driving as straight as Manteos does, which explains his pace normally 8)

Thanks to Manteos for managing to do the complete opposite of my warnings prior to the race start ( :P ) I managed to finish the 1st lap with a nice gap of about a second back to 2nd (I have to admit to laughing a bit as he sailed past me into the Hairpin ;D ).
Right up until he lunched his gearbox I was really being forced to concentrate though, as after respective errors between us we settled at about 3 seconds and then just stayed there with a bit of sea-sawing each lap until about 20-25 minutes in.
As you can't get to your clutch properly maybe try turning on autoclutch if that can work with a H-Shifter? It's not as good as doing it yourself but at least you can then rev match and keep the gearbox alive?

Well done to Fabs and Jos on the podium, and to all finishers - This round was the seasons 'Evil technical' track, having a legit 70's layout was just a bonus, so finishing here is good work. Especially given just how nasty the braking zone between T1 and T2 is (Fantastic when you do it right though  :angel: )

Thanks for taking part all and see you at Spa for the special next week - server is already up and I'll sort the announcement thread after work today.

It's true that on a flat 24" screen it was really a tough track..

@ Fabrizio : plz mate don't crash for fun into me like that (end of qualif) cause it's not so good for the wheel, then I believed I had put it straight back but actually on the grid I realised I was 360° left or right, thankfully the game told me ! Could have led to a mayhem on the starting grid. Plus it's quite immersive killer.  ;)

Starting went bad here : looks like my clutch wasn't well calibrated since last PC reboot so that I started to move very slightly as soon as I engaged 1st gear.. -> drivethrough penalty.

Sorry Picnic, Goldtop or Spanner (no idea as the nicknames don't match) for the little back-tap at T6 entry, was surprised. Thankfully it didn't have any consequences as you managed to control it well.

Someone let Stefan and me pass for no reason due to the bug of the track not counting the right driver positions and giving continous blue flag as soon as there was a car behind us. Or was it only at my end ??

Solid chase from Stefan who was putting a huge pressure on me as he was much faster, very clean pressure mate, it was very nice to be confident in your fair driving as usual. Then he got an opportunity when I made a mistake as he said yet, so that it was justice for him to pass me.

Sorry also Tudor Morris for that big crash at T1, you had managed to avoid Stefan''s perpandicular car but I couldn't see the things in time, only later than you and it was too late when I jumped on the brakes on that tough part of the circuit.

Congrats of course to the top drivers, amazing pace on such a track and special congrats to Jos for his beautiful podium ! :thumbup1: :clap:

Edit : corrections.

I had a lot of fun yesterday.

First, I must acknowledge Maxime's help with the setup that helped me get my lap times in the reasonable zone (1:28) and gave me a chance to be relatively upfront at the start of the race... It's hard to overtake here.

The first lap defined 95% of the race for me. The accident at Lycée hairpin between Lorenzo and Fabri pushed me to the left and I couldn't close the turn enough which wasn't great but then I was hit by Mark that was suffering similarly from understeering (I believe). In any case, nothing really changed there for us. Mark went ahead and I found myself in a very compromised parallel run with Maxime that played it very respectfully as we were approaching that terrible left corner at the top of the hill  :thumbup1:. 

Mark's error in the last part of L1 was my opportunity to be in P5 and the rest of the race was perfectly described by Mark in his comment. I had some lap time management and pressure from Mark at the end to keep me focused.

I leave the video of the race in my youtube channel for those that want to see 'consistency'  :yes: from my viewpoint.

I'm delighted with the podium!  :clap:

Video of the race: https://youtu.be/DEf0Z-yX8PA (https://youtu.be/DEf0Z-yX8PA)

All the best.

Maxime, I had not the control of car because the session ended  :angel:

Anyhow sorry.

I agree with all of that except the bit about me hitting you. I do believe you hit those outside concrete bales and bounced back into me as I exited the hairpin  :angel:  but nice video as always  8)

Thanks Mark. We might be both right. My car indeed bounced back after hitting the bales but there was really not space in the track at the left of your car... Anyhow. Great race.

Actually, I forgot to add that you can see this at 0:48 in my video (I think).

All the best,
Jos Ogos

Ouch, I get it my friend.  ;) Wasn't serious anyway of course, but surprised me that you could do that just for fun.
That end of session "out of control" phenomenom always bugged me by the way.  ::)

Apologies for the late moderation - I hadn't actually realised there were reports.

Please take note of the comments about braking in this instance and that all possible avoiding action should be taken in similar occurrences.
While I appreciate there will be instances when you feel a car has just pulled straight across into your line - even if you're correct in that feeling you should still take all avoiding actions available to you.