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Title: UKGPL Season 37 (2020) 1967 F1 Sprint - Rouen - Sep 27
Post by: Rainier on September 21, 2020, 01:21:54 PM +0100
Season 37 F1 SPRINT – Round 5 –  ROUEN  

The fifth race in the 1967 F1 SPRINT series finds us at Rouen in France.   From its opening in 1950, Rouen-Les-Essarts was recognized as one of Europe's finest circuits, with modern pits, a wide track, and spectator grandstands. The circuit (which ran on public roads) had a few medium straights, a cobbled hairpin turn (Nouveau Monde) at the southernmost tip, and a few blind corners through a wooded hillside. The appeal was greatly enhanced by the climb from Nouveau Monde at 56 metres to Gresil at 149 metres.

Server = UKGPL_10
IP = 217.155.118.41
Race date = Sunday 27-09-2020
Time = 21:00 UK time (21:00 GMT)
Track = Papyrus original
Race length = 25 Laps (50 minutes)
Variant = 1967
60fps patch used   = 60fpsV2newmod
Damage Model = Intermediate
Qualifying time = 30-45 minutes
Replay =  here (https://www.sendspace.com/file/vgtclx)


Password: see above (#post_event_password)
Driver lists can be found on the championship standings page (https://www.simracing.org.uk/smf/index.php?action=LM2R&group=1152&theme=6)
Please check the Season 37 details (https://www.simracing.org.uk/smf/index.php?action=LM2R&group=1102&theme=6) regarding rules and the 1967 F1 Sprint Championship pages (https://www.simracing.org.uk/smf/index.php?action=LM2R&group=1152&theme=6) in particular.

Drivers must complete 50% of each race to score.

"Works" drivers are not allowed any resets.
"Privateer" drivers are allowed a maximum of one reset with a compulsory Stop & Go within two laps.
Drivers are reminded that Lap 1 incidents carry an extra 1 place penalty.
Only reported incidents will be moderated.

The chassis token system is explained on the championship standings page. Please ensure you choose a chassis that is within your budget, which can be seen by hovering the mouse over your points total in the standings.

Please restrict chat to pit messages including at the end of the race until ALL drivers still racing have crossed the line.



Works drivers are :
Angex
Bagrupp
Doni Yourth
Pepe Higdon
Ricardo Da Silva
Dulima
Phil Thornton
Baab
MagicArsouille
Arf Arf Arf
Gareth
Iestyn Davies
DuFossa
Markus Friedrich



Privateers drivers are :
Albert Hallu
Billy Nobrakes
Dave Curtis
David Sochenna
PaulV
Francesco
Bernie Darwin
karliss
Daniel_San
Badblood
Maestro57


Title: Re: UKGPL Season 37 (2020) 1967 F1 Sprint - Rouen - Sep 27
Post by: Baab on September 27, 2020, 12:15:11 PM +0100
For anyone that's interested I will drive the BRM tonight


Title: Re: UKGPL Season 37 (2020) 1967 F1 Sprint - Rouen - Sep 27
Post by: Markus Friedrich on September 27, 2020, 03:06:53 PM +0100
For anyone that's interested I will drive the BRM tonight

Me too. I am looking forward to the race  :)


Title: Re: UKGPL Season 37 (2020) 1967 F1 Sprint - Rouen - Sep 27
Post by: Phil Thornton on September 27, 2020, 03:10:39 PM +0100
I'll be taking the Brabham. Not that that will make any difference. I won't be able to get near you two in your BRMs, but I'll try!


Title: Re: UKGPL Season 37 (2020) 1967 F1 Sprint - Rouen - Sep 27
Post by: BadBlood on September 27, 2020, 08:41:22 PM +0100
I'll be happily pootling around at the back... I seem to be about 5-10 seconds over what I used to be able to do (and I was slow then).


Title: Re: UKGPL Season 37 (2020) 1967 F1 Sprint - Rouen - Sep 27
Post by: Arf Arf Arf on September 27, 2020, 08:51:35 PM +0100
Who cares? Good to see you back BB


Title: Re: UKGPL Season 37 (2020) 1967 F1 Sprint - Rouen - Sep 27
Post by: Billy Nobrakes on September 27, 2020, 09:40:35 PM +0100
 Dropped connection just before the start which was rather annoying.

Nice to see a packed grid.


Title: Re: UKGPL Season 37 (2020) 1967 F1 Sprint - Rouen - Sep 27
Post by: Pepe Higdon on September 27, 2020, 09:55:13 PM +0100
i was disconnected while waiting for the grid to fill. I got back in somehow, then was bounced again. The second time I was barred. I don't think this is on my end, where I have 150MB/sec connection speeds up and down with Fios.


Title: Re: UKGPL Season 37 (2020) 1967 F1 Sprint - Rouen - Sep 27
Post by: AnGex on September 27, 2020, 09:59:34 PM +0100
Had also a disco... ::)


Title: Re: UKGPL Season 37 (2020) 1967 F1 Sprint - Rouen - Sep 27
Post by: BadBlood on September 27, 2020, 10:03:52 PM +0100
Fun while it lasted. Saw the grid go off engaged first foot to the floor... nothing. That happened at Mosport. Not sure why. Any way, got going soon caught Pete and Albert. Albert was warping a bit and I was being cautious around him but we had a coming together at the start of lap 2. Ah well. Pete had dropped back a bit and I was starting to feel a bit more confident. Then disaster. Wheel on the grass and went over. Tried to Shift-R but Pete had caught me so I had to wait an age. What were the rules? Oops. Served a Stop-n-go and re-joined only to see the leader up my tail pipes. Got well out of the way and started to lap again. Times were 2:10 ish so not great but OK for my second trip out. Thought I would stay out to Lap 13 and call it a night but unfortunately got a bout of motion sickness on Lap 10. Fun. Though. A pass, a crash, A reset... what is not to like.

Enjoyed getting 'Arfed in qually too. Assumed it was my fault until I watched the replay. ;)

I REALLY need to practice but it was so nice to actually race again...

Disco'ed in Qually...



Title: Re: UKGPL Season 37 (2020) 1967 F1 Sprint - Rouen - Sep 27
Post by: Arf Arf Arf on September 27, 2020, 10:31:53 PM +0100

Enjoyed getting 'Arfed in qually too. Assumed it was my fault until I watched the replay. ;)


Nope, I had a moment, ruined my lap. Saw you coming up behind me, tried to move to the side, right hand wheels hit the grass... and all of a sudden it was raining car parts.. mea culpa


Title: Re: UKGPL Season 37 (2020) 1967 F1 Sprint - Rouen - Sep 27
Post by: maestro57 on September 27, 2020, 10:36:09 PM +0100
enjoyed first race back (not counting the 55's last weekend as dico'd very early)

GPL is still great fun

if only i could remember how to drive quicker

cheers

Peter


Title: Re: UKGPL Season 37 (2020) 1967 F1 Sprint - Rouen - Sep 27
Post by: Phil Thornton on September 27, 2020, 10:41:35 PM +0100
I realised a few people had been discoed at at the start because there was a big gap to the cars in front. Bad luck gents, I'm sure Dave will have a look at his server logs. I managed to get onto the back of Andreas before he discoed on the way down to the hairpin. I was worried that he would reappear on top of me but luckily for me he didn't (bad luck for Andreas though). I then got on the back of Doni and there I stayed for about 16 laps whilst I tried find a way past. But Doni was too good, no mistakes and I couldn't engineer a decent opportunity to pass. With about 3 laps to go I got the braking into the hairpin wrong and I did a 180. That was Doni gone and then I had to worry about Bob. Another silly mistake on what I think was the second to last lap and Bob was through. Still a good race for me, finished where I expected to be, at the back of the Works but ahead of the Privateers.


Title: Re: UKGPL Season 37 (2020) 1967 F1 Sprint - Rouen - Sep 27
Post by: Arf Arf Arf on September 27, 2020, 10:45:23 PM +0100
This is the first race in a very long time where I did not crash, spin or in any way hinder my progress or someone else's - quietly proud of myself, reminds me that it is possible...

I'll have to work out how I managed to finish so far behind the top 3, I think it was 38 secs in the end. I was never going to keep up with them, but my lap boards were saying I was 13-18 secs behind.

Special mention to Fran for forgetting to use Prib/look in your mirrors. In qually you spun and Shift+r, a bit before the S/F line. You immediately joined the racing line and got in my way when you had no chance of a flying lap. Worse still in the race you blocked me for over a lap as I tried to lap you, and Doni nearly caught up with me as a result. You were being lapped dude...


Title: Re: UKGPL Season 37 (2020) 1967 F1 Sprint - Rouen - Sep 27
Post by: dave curtis on September 27, 2020, 10:59:16 PM +0100
Server replay available from:  here (https://www.sendspace.com/file/vgtclx)
Also added to event details page.

Sorry to hear of the disconnects, will take a look for anything of interest.  Otherwise was good to see a popular event.


Title: Re: UKGPL Season 37 (2020) 1967 F1 Sprint - Rouen - Sep 27
Post by: Phil Thornton on September 27, 2020, 11:16:58 PM +0100
Special mention to Fran ............. In qually you spun and Shift+r, a bit before the S/F line.
Shift-Rs are not allowed in qually (see the Shift-R paragraph on this page (https://www.ukgpl.com/index.php/rules/etiquette)) precisely because of this reason. Please don't do Shift-Rs in qually Fran.


Title: Re: UKGPL Season 37 (2020) 1967 F1 Sprint - Rouen - Sep 27
Post by: BadBlood on September 28, 2020, 01:04:42 AM +0100
2:10 pah. My best ever time at Rouen is 2:01 so I hopped back in the Brabby and tried again. 2:07 on cold tyres and then I crashed  ;D


Title: Re: UKGPL Season 37 (2020) 1967 F1 Sprint - Rouen - Sep 27
Post by: Dulima on September 28, 2020, 08:00:18 AM +0100
Rouen is a track that I like a lot.

My strategy since the beginning was to run from Louts.

I was the only Lotus on the grid and had the obligation to make a good race.

I raised a podium, I did a good qually, I could even lower my time a little more.

But I was impressed with the BRM time.

I confess that before the start, my adrenaline was at 1000, shaking and my hand kept sweating

Fortunately I had an excellent start and a good race, without mistakes, I focused on the track and didn't look at the pribluda

Finally I did a decent run, I did my homework with Lotus.

But it was not easy, throughout the race Friedrich and Grupp were embedded in my rear view mirror

Congratulations Friedrich, you were very fast with BRM and Grupp, for third place

Doni, with his BRM very consistent and keeping the fight for the championship!

GPL in the vein!






Title: Re: UKGPL Season 37 (2020) 1967 F1 Sprint - Rouen - Sep 27
Post by: Markus Friedrich on September 28, 2020, 02:33:37 PM +0100
Congrats to Dulima! You always had some pressure from behind but your very consistent racing has earned you the victory! This was a challenging race and a lot of fun. Also congrats to Bastian for the podium and thanks for the battle.

Unfortunately I also had a disco during qualifying. I could not reconnect before I rebooted my router and my computer. But then there was no time left to improve my lap time.

This time I had a good getaway and no incidences on lap one.  :) I stayed third until Bastian made a mistake at the end of the second lap. He went off the road when braking for the slow corner at the end of the long straight. Thereafter, I was slowly approaching Dulima. But as soon as I was within a second of him Bastian filled my mirrors and benefited from me going wide at the bend before the start/finish line. Thereafter I tried to get close to both of them again, mostly I was one or two seconds behind Bastian, sometimes battling for position. However, not until the last lap I got the opportunity for a pass. Bastian did the same mistake I did before, running off the track at the bend before the start/finish line. I came very clean through this corner and was able to out-accelerate and overtake him directly before the checkered flag with a gap of only 0.252s!  8)

Driving the BRM is a pleasure but not if you try to overtake someone. Every time I accelerated out of a corner when I was directly behind the Brabham of Bastian or the Lotus of Dulima I was sure I was driving a bus!


Title: Re: UKGPL Season 37 (2020) 1967 F1 Sprint - Rouen - Sep 27
Post by: Doni Yourth on September 28, 2020, 04:15:19 PM +0100
Hearty congratulations to Eddie on a fine win!  Pretty much a text book drive.  Well done, amigo.

Markus did a splendid job in his BRM to nail down P2 after a duel with Bastian.  Great pass for the position!

I'm quite satisfied with a P5 placing from a P7 start.  Off the line, I managed to pip Andreas and had him in my mirrors for three laps til an apparent disco ended his day early.  Bad luck there and a disappointment as he and I have had many a good dice in years past.

Bob suffered a lurid spin to cost him places and I wasn't even aware that he was behind me til the race ended.  My time was occupied by a relentless pursuit and assault from Phil.  For many a lap, PT was all over me and a couple of times, he seemed set for a pass going into T1.  Being an obstinate Canadian kept me ahead but only by a whisker .  Only a late race off by PT approaching the Nouveau Monde hairpin relieved the pressure.  A nail-biter but that was fun, Phil.  Good show.


Title: Re: UKGPL Season 37 (2020) 1967 F1 Sprint - Rouen - Sep 27
Post by: bagrupp on September 28, 2020, 04:21:33 PM +0100
Hi all,

i just forgot about that league :)

Race was quite ok, grats to dulima and marcus, especially with that car.
But your move end of lap 7 was very late....

yes but very sad, i stayed focussed until the last corner where i clipped the curbs.
i tried to move but the speed difference was too big...thats hard.

i was also unlucky with fran and another lapped one, don't know who...
Fran blocked me up for three corner, the other one did see me late when i was very close to dulima.
so his sudden movement triggered a sudden move from me and i had a high speed spin but could continue before marcus.


Title: Re: UKGPL Season 37 (2020) 1967 F1 Sprint - Rouen - Sep 27
Post by: Billy Nobrakes on September 28, 2020, 08:56:47 PM +0100
Welcome back to Maestro & Badblood.
I'm sure your lap times will be back in the mix once you've done some practice. GPL is a hard task master.


Title: Re: UKGPL Season 37 (2020) 1967 F1 Sprint - Rouen - Sep 27
Post by: francesco on September 29, 2020, 06:57:35 AM +0100
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Shift-Rs are not allowed in qually (see the Shift-R paragraph on this page) precisely because of this reason. Please don't do Shift-Rs in qually Fran.
Sorry Phil,since is allowed during the race i was convinced that was allowed also during qualy.


Title: Re: UKGPL Season 37 (2020) 1967 F1 Sprint - Rouen - Sep 27
Post by: francesco on September 29, 2020, 07:01:10 AM +0100
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Special mention to Fran for forgetting to use Prib/look in your mirrors. In qually you spun and Shift+r, a bit before the S/F line. You immediately joined the racing line and got in my way when you had no chance of a flying lap. Worse still in the race you blocked me for over a lap as I tried to lap you, and Doni nearly caught up with me as a result. You were being lapped dude...
Normally if the track is not free the shift -r don't work.During the qualy ,for me, the lapping by the faster pilots is not valid...could be that i'm in my faster time.


Title: Re: UKGPL Season 37 (2020) 1967 F1 Sprint - Rouen - Sep 27
Post by: Cookie on September 29, 2020, 10:10:54 AM +0100
Colin said:

Menzione speciale a Fran per aver dimenticato di usare Prib/look nei vostri specchi. In qually hai girato e Shift+r, un po' prima della linea S/F. Ti sei subito unito alla linea di gara e mi hai ostacolato quando non avevi alcuna possibilità di fare un giro in volo. Peggio ancora in gara mi hai bloccato per più di un giro mentre cercavo di farti un giro, e Doni mi ha quasi raggiunto. Ti stavano doppiando, amico...

used deepl to translate....

Answer:

"...for me, the lapping by the faster pilots is not valid..."

per me, lo sciabordio dei piloti più veloci non è valido   :o :o :o :o


Title: Re: UKGPL Season 37 (2020) 1967 F1 Sprint - Rouen - Sep 27
Post by: bernie on September 29, 2020, 10:27:12 AM +0100
I was caught out twice during qually ruining my best lap attempt by chaps leaving the pits on there out lap diving out straight onto the racing line . Then was taken off when passing a slower car on the back straight . Please if your on an outlap or driving slowly Watch your mirrors !

for the race I took it easy at the start on full tanks and cold tyres , fully expecting the usual  pile up at the hairpin which never happened ! Lap 2  expecting the same , I was taking it easy on still cold tyres , all fine until the Honda behind decided it would be nice to overtake going into the left hand kink going up the hill , I left you room but then you turned in right across my nose forcing me to brake to avoid a collision and lose control , by the time I recovered I was half a lap down . I then had a very lonely drive to the finish .   :-\


Title: Re: UKGPL Season 37 (2020) 1967 F1 Sprint - Rouen - Sep 27
Post by: francesco on September 29, 2020, 12:12:44 PM +0100
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Worse still in the race you blocked me for over a lap as I tried to lap you, and Doni nearly caught up with me as a result. You were being lapped dude...

it doesn't seem to me to have slowed you down,I gave way when it was the most opportune moment.


Title: Re: UKGPL Season 37 (2020) 1967 F1 Sprint - Rouen - Sep 27
Post by: Arf Arf Arf on September 29, 2020, 12:16:01 PM +0100
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Special mention to Fran for forgetting to use Prib/look in your mirrors. In qually you spun and Shift+r, a bit before the S/F line. You immediately joined the racing line and got in my way when you had no chance of a flying lap. Worse still in the race you blocked me for over a lap as I tried to lap you, and Doni nearly caught up with me as a result. You were being lapped dude...
Normally if the track is not free the shift -r don't work.During the qualy ,for me, the lapping by the faster pilots is not valid...could be that i'm in my faster time.

You rejoined the track (when shift r allowed) and started to accelerate. You were close enough to the Start line that you were still accelerating when you passed the S/F line. That means that you have no chance of setting a competitive lap. As you were on an out lap it is basic manners to get out of the way. (I'm sure Bad Blood is smiling as he reads this given what happened to us... but I was trying to stay out of his way...). Someone else shot passed you just after the S/L line, I got blocked as I approached T1.

If you are on a proper attempt at a fast lap and someone even faster comes up behind you then
* Qually: You do NOT need to get out the way, you are doing your best to make a fast time, and it's not your fault the other guy is quicker. This is NOT the scenario that happened in qually on Sunday because you were on an out lap.
* Race: you DO have to get out of the way, because the faster driver who is lapping you has priority, even if it compromises you racing with someone for position




Title: Re: UKGPL Season 37 (2020) 1967 F1 Sprint - Rouen - Sep 27
Post by: Arf Arf Arf on September 29, 2020, 12:18:45 PM +0100
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Worse still in the race you blocked me for over a lap as I tried to lap you, and Doni nearly caught up with me as a result. You were being lapped dude...

it doesn't seem to me to have slowed you down,I gave way when it was the most opportune moment.


Utter nonsense, I had to be careful. The warning sign for me was that you either didn't know I was there, or that you might have made it difficult for me to pass. I was very tentative because I didn't want to lose a good position through a stupid accident. The marshals must have been waving blue flags at you (sadly these don't appear in the replay)


Title: Re: UKGPL Season 37 (2020) 1967 F1 Sprint - Rouen - Sep 27
Post by: francesco on September 29, 2020, 02:04:32 PM +0100
Sorry but i have seen your car very close on the penutimate straght, immediately after the curve i gave way.


Title: Re: UKGPL Season 37 (2020) 1967 F1 Sprint - Rouen - Sep 27
Post by: Dulima on September 29, 2020, 07:37:49 PM +0100
Thanks for the words Markus and Doni!

I was lucky to be just me with Lotus on the grid

I made my strategy since the beginning of the championship

Now, one thing is worrying me, know that this is not the place to post

But speaking of strategy, know that Goodwood will get off the calendar

I don't know which track will enter her place, but in my humble opinion, it would have to be a track with the same characteristics as Goodwood

For example, I would go with Cooper on it, if you choose a bullish track, my strategy,that was made at the beginning of the championship, go for water down!





Title: Re: UKGPL Season 37 (2020) 1967 F1 Sprint - Rouen - Sep 27
Post by: Markus Friedrich on October 02, 2020, 02:59:59 PM +0100
know that Goodwood will get off the calendar

In the S3767F1G Rouen thread it is written that Goodwood will be replaced by Wiesbaden. Am I right assuming that the sprint race will be at Wiesbaden too?


Title: Re: UKGPL Season 37 (2020) 1967 F1 Sprint - Rouen - Sep 27
Post by: Rainier on October 03, 2020, 11:22:59 AM +0100
know that Goodwood will get off the calendar

In the S3767F1G Rouen thread it is written that Goodwood will be replaced by Wiesbaden. Am I right assuming that the sprint race will be at Wiesbaden too?

Yes, next race in Wiesbaden


Title: Re: UKGPL Season 37 (2020) 1967 F1 Sprint - Rouen - Sep 27
Post by: Rainier on October 03, 2020, 06:22:03 PM +0100
Moderation posted.

Francesco, it seems you are very often reporting incident when you think you are not responsible ...but not when you are !
For the following incident, 10 seconds after the one you reported, you made a bigger fault than David Sochenna's first mistake.

I was again lenient with you for the 2nd time of this season. But it's enough, next time you will be penalized.