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Race One

Password: see above (#post_event_password)

(2) Driver lists can be found on the championship standings page (https://www.simracing.org.uk/smf/index.php?action=LM2R;group=1192)

Practice: 19:30 ( 25 mins)
Qual: 19:55 ( 25 mins)
Race: 20:20 ( 24mins= ~29 mins race)

Cars allowed: WTCR 2019 + TC Cup
Track: Nurburgring (Nordschliefe)
Time of Day Setting: 13:00
Weather: Dry

Start: Standing
Tyre wear: Normal
Fuel consumption:  Normal
Pit-stops: None required

Server: Simracing.org.uk E7
Password: see above (#post_event_password)

Championship Standings (https://www.simracing.org.uk/smf/index.php?action=LM2R&group=1192&theme=4)

Example Setups:

Notes:
(1) It's best if all drivers can make sure they are connected before the Qualifying session as drivers on track during qualifying will not see
cars that join after they are on track until they go back to the garage.
(2) Please make sure you are fully aware of the SimRacing.org.uk Rules (https://www.simracing.org.uk/index.php?pid=7) especially the
rules about in-game chat messages.
(3) You will need to install Race Room Racing Experience from Steam, and have the Euro and American Track Packs for this series (And maybe another
non pack track occasionally)
(4) Please exercise caution when pitting as some tracks have a speed limit.

(5) Please follow the SROUK guidelines for using kerbs etc. Please keep 2 wheels on the track surface (kerbs do not count as track surface)
Excessive cutting of corners will seen as cheating and the results may be altered to reflect this.

Please note early start time to accomodate Nords Prac/Qual

***Need to do some testing to set actual race time***

The real WTCR use the 24h layout Matt. Just been testing on that layout & laps should take around 9 minutes.

The real race is only 3 laps so we might want to drop it down to 20-25 minutes.

OK, thanks Geoff I will use that one, and change the times to suit

Can you not set race distance at 3 laps?

Matt the server is still set for this week’s race, could you change it this track please? Found visibly to the left is poor on the Audi and most other cars. The Hyundai has much better vision with narrower bands in the safety lattice which start further away from the windscreen - I don’t notice it after short drive.  ;D

I am going off Geoff's 9 min laps, I will have a go myself round the Nords 24hrs to make sure minor gods can still do it  ::)
The server only does race sessions in minutes, there is no laps option. I may extend the time it waits after the winner
has finished. Is set for Reverse grid for the 1st 10 places.

I did a messy lap in 9:45, so to give everyone a chance to get an outlap and qual lap
I have made prac and qual 25 mins each. Race time will be 24 mins to make sure it will go on to lap 3
and shouldn't go to lap 4. Should give a  ~29/30 mins race. "I think" that will make lap 3 the "Final Lap"
Need to test that...It might need 17 mins, but I think that would make lap 2 the final lap.

Any testing would be much appreciated  ::)

Matt, when I did the RaceRoom Cupra Series races at Dubai last week, qualifying for race 2 was run like you were doing a leaderboard lap. Drivers were alone on the track & started just before the last corner, there was no outlap. I guess there is a setting for this. Could be an option here to save a 9 minute outlap, if you like & can set it up.

Completed one lap only, the changes of track from Nurburgring to Nordschleife I’m still learning. On the flowing sections the changes of direction provoked a car killing tank slapper on occasions! ::) Found light to brakes before the change of direction steadied the car. Doubt I’ll be able to complete race one!  :o

What can I adjust to make my car more stable?  ???

More rear wing, more rear toe-in, brake bias more to the front, more front fast compression damping (can't remember if this is adjustable on these), stiffer front springs, possibly stiffer rear rollbar.

You don't need to do a full outlap regardless on RaceRoom. You can just cut the track by turning right at the end of the GP circuit instead of going left to the Nordschleife, then drive around the barriers to arrive at the front straight and start a fresh lap. Also useful if you mess up your lap on the GP circuit and want to start over.

I did try that Toni when I got an invalid lap on the GP track section, but the timer did not restart when I crossed the S/F line.

Thanks Geoff will have a look at these suggestions later this morning.

There isn't any choices of when to start lap timing etc. I think when they run their sessions they script it using commands that we don't have
access to

There's definitely an option to set individual qualifying on dedicated servers, I've raced on a server that had it set up that way.

I will test the GP circuit shortcut tonight, it definitely used to work because the AI did the same in single player qualifying sessions. Maybe you have to be careful how you rejoin the track so you don't get your next lap invalidated?

Tried the shortcut. It works in both single player qualifying and practice. Doesn't seem to work in leaderboard mode but it's not really needed there.

For Bill and others struggling with the Audi, it has tons of lift-off oversteer, as do the other cars to some extent. That can really bite you in the fast corners where you can't take it flat out but coming off the throttle sends the car fish-tailing. I've found you should gently apply moderate braking input before coming off the throttle to make sure the rear doesn't escape (it's okay to drag the brakes a little) and make sure you're never just coasting. Otherwise, if you can do all your braking in a straight line that will also help. Some places like Wehrseifen that might mean coming on and off the brakes several times because the braking zone starts in the middle of the previous corner.

Thanks will try it out.

And the shortcut has been talked about here before as well.

Thursday is my only day this week were I could be home in time for the race, but then its this track...So I wont be.

Started also today with the training, never driven on the nordschleiffe. For the moment up to the carroussel is in my head. Last part always uncertain for me the corner.


Thx to Geoff with the setup tips, wil drive the LADA (good old memories when i was 3 up to 6 years old. My dad had a Lada Niva.


And did a single event 24hr track and even the AI players are shortcutting when doing practice and quali after the GP part of the circuit to start a new lap.


see you this evening, watch out for the belgian driver that could brake earlier because i don't know how hard the turn will tighten ;D ;D

I may have a chance then ::)

Server and slient needed a small update, Server is running again. I will join at 19:30 to start prac

@Bill, try the Lada, it has a lot less lift off oversteer, and is pretty stable.

I see the server is set for 30min races, surely that means we will do 4 laps!

Logged on to join server and see I just missed the race start. Have a good one.

You didn't miss much Frex!!!!!!!

Race 1:
Medium start, and placed myself between Toni and Pete. Just before entering the Nordshleiffe i let Pete pass because i was uncertain about my skill level at this track. Followed for a while Toni and Pete at a distance until the last part of lap 1. At Pfartzgarten i got sideways due to drop at the braking point. I thought i catch it but the the left rear tire touched the gravel and i spinned. In the next corner Pete was in the barrier, and then for the remaining 3 laps i was at the same pace of Toni, but 8 to 10sec behind him.

I thought it was only 1 race, and was surprised by race 2 ;D
Good start, Geoff even better but forgot to brake  ;D and after a tab in the chicane i was in second position behind Richardson. I knew i couldn't follow him and started my own pace to manage the gap with 3th position. Martin and Toni crashed and i got now a gap of 30sec with Geoff.

But then screen freezed and i got disconnected  >:( :( :cursing: :censored:

2nd or 3th place was possible.



Was a challenging race, so once in a while this amazing track is not wrong

Appologies for the race time. I had wanted to test that 20 mins or less would give 3 laps only, but I left it at 30mins to make sure
we got at least 3 laps. Have not been able to do much with this this week, as my normal gaming machine was trashed.
(is now rebuilt for the 3rd time with Win10, so need to get GTL working, this will probably work.
So no admin, no testing, no practice or setup time. Tried to run from by office machine, but it had no sound  :'(
managed to get some sound out of the front jacks just before race start. went off and killed the engine, or at least
it seemed slow, race 2 even worse, this time really did kill the engine. Shame as I do like the Green Hell, and I like the cars  :taz:

Wasn't really prepared for an endurance race, good thing I double checked the race distance before the start ::). Race 1 went fine, although a hairy moment with Pete unfortunately ended up with him in the wall. You'd think TCRs are easy cause they're FWD but there's so many fast corners where you can just lose it for a moment and instantly end your race.

By the end I was pretty exhausted and there was still another one to go. Mercifully race 2 ended on lap 1 with a massive tank slapper. Congrats Glenn and Bill for persevering through :laugh:. Probably a reason why they don't race 4 laps back-to-back at this track in real life.

I love this car and track combination (I get the impression not too many others do). The WTCR cars ride the kerbs and bumps so well, it's not often you can be so aggressive at the Nordschleife.

Having lost track of time there wasn't enough time to get a qualifying lap in when I joined so I just went with the default setup with some fuel added and brake bias slightly forward and had to start from the back. I did squeeze Geoff a little when making the move for the lead as I bounced off a kerb on the inside so apologies for that. In the end the race panned out much like the real race 1 last weekend with me in the Honda trying to make enough of a gap to avoid towing Geoff down the straight in the Lynk & Co as Guerrieri did with Muller. Well done to Geoff for second and keeping the pressure on and to Toni for 3rd.

I lucked into the lead in race 2 after a few cars went wide, big well done to Bill for second  :clap:

The next two circuits are probably my lesser liked tracks from the WTCR calendar.

My Golf does lift off oversteer really well  ::) I need to have reduced that, as getting off line at speed usually meant
a lot of loosing it. I think the real races are one on Sat and one on Sun? Probably should have taken the Lada
as it is much more freindly. Don't know about Slovakia, but Hungaroring is one of my faves.

I do like the cars & am also a fan of the track but for some reason I just found these races a bit tedious. Odd really as we did a 22 lap race in GTL here a few weeks ago & I loved every minute of that.

Apart from leading for a few miles at the start, I spent most of race 1 chasing Glenn. No problem about the pass Glenn, I saw you coming & as you were obviously faster I did not contest too hard. Could not keep up Glenn's pace & came home a distant 2nd.

Race 2 was a bit of a disaster. Not sure what happened at T1, I thought I braked in the right place, but obviously not as I just went straight on into the gravel. Lost about 30s getting back on the tarmac & then drove flat out to try to catch up, but nearly everyone retired so got up to 2nd almost by default. I was then intent on beating my leaderboard laptime with the obvious result, lots of collisions with the barriers. Then at the start of lap 3 I missed T1 braking point again, red mist descended & I just drove into the barriers & killed it. ::) :death:

Congrats to Glenn on two comfortable wins & to Toni & Bill on their podiums.  :clap: :clap: :clap:

Well that was an interesting and eventful night’s racing, particularly as a 1730 I had an un-drivable car! It would not ride the kerbs, it was like hitting a wall and threw the car into a tank slapper into the barrier wrecking the car. My plans to spend time sorting this out and getting practice laps in the morning was thwarted by the RRE server being down till late afternoon. I only had time to guess how much to reduce reduce the springs by, luckily I got it right! ;D

At my age I don’t expect to be on the pace but try and improve on offline practice times, not get lapped and hopefully finish the race still running. My car handled beautifully kerb riding and mainly staying on the track particularly the left hand kink at the end of the long straight which I took at full throttle!  I stood on the bakes a 100 yards or so before the series of corners without any problems, without any need for correction! As for my position in the final placings it was a huge surprise, thanks folks for your congratulations!

Nordschleife is always a fun challenge but requires so much concentration at all times to not bin it that gets a bit much in longer races. I used to not like Slovakiaring, but after the recent CUPRA Challenge it has grown on me. Just has a nice rhythm to it once you memorise all the corners. Hungaroring in TCR's is pretty much perfection for me.

RaceRoom are just starting a new multiplayer series for WTCR cars featuring all the tracks we are using in this series (except Imola). Only trouble is the races are on Sundays so some will clash with our GTR4 races ::).

PS: Just noticed it uses the upcoming 2020 WTCR cars. Also free to take part, you don't need to own any of the content.