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Season 37 – 1955 Grand Prix – Round 6 – Silverstone
The sixth race in the 1955 Grand Prix series finds us at Silverstone in England. Silverstone is built on the site of a World War II bomber base, RAF Silverstone, which opened in 1943. The track hosted the very first F1 championship race in 1950. The British Grand Prix has been permanently held here since 1987. The airfield's three runways, in classic WWII triangle format, lie within the outline of the present track. The first two races were held on the runways themselves, with the 1949 International Trophy switching to the perimeter track. This arrangement was used for the 1950 and 1951 Grands Prix. In 1952 the start line was moved from the Farm Straight to the present Finish Straight, and this layout remained largely unaltered for the following 35 years.

The 1954 race was won by José Froilán González in a Ferrari followed by Mike Hawthorn in another Ferrari. The final podium place was claimed by Onofre Marimón in a Maserati. After after colliding several times with oil drums in a difficult handling car, Juan Manuel Fangio eventually finished fourth in his Mercedes. The Englishman, Mike Hawthorn, spoiled what would have been an all Argentinian podium.

The 1956 race, Stirling Moss qualified on pole in his Maserati with Juan Manuel Fangio in a Ferrari second after posting exactly the same time (1:41.0). Stirling Moss' luck didn't hold for the race and he retired with a broken axle. This left Juan Manuel Fangio to claim the win. Alfonso de Portago and Peter Collins shared the second placed Ferrari with the Frenchman Jean Behra finishing third in his Maserati.

Since 1975 the track has been heavily modified with the introduction of chicanes etc – but tonight we will be using the same layout used in the 1954 and 1956 races.
 
Please read the championship specific rules on the championship standings page (https://www.simracing.org.uk/smf/index.php?action=LM2R&group=1112&theme=6).

Race list	iGOR
Server	UKGPL_4
IP address	77.102.28.179
Date	18-10-2020
Track	Papyrus Original
Mod	55GP with 60fpsV2newmod
Damage	PRO long
Race time	~ 21:30 UK time
Qualifying	20:45 UK time - 45 minutes
Race length	26 laps
Replay	here (https://drive.google.com/file/d/1JzBqUTiTNIs0pPO-PmHOaRWD-_lHz4Dv/view?usp=sharing)

Please restrict chat to emergency messages only including at the end of the race until ALL drivers still racing have crossed the line.

Password: see above (#post_event_password)
Driver lists can be found on the championship standings page (https://www.simracing.org.uk/smf/index.php?action=LM2R&group=1112&theme=6)

Handicapping and chassis allocation.
The 1955 Grand Prix cars will be using a token system which allows drivers to purchase any chassis of their choice for a given number of tokens as published on the championship standings page (https://www.simracing.org.uk/smf/index.php?action=LM2R&group=1112&theme=6). Drivers classed as Privateers will be allocated an additional 10 tokens.  The tokens available to each driver will be published in the race announcement. See table below.

Available Tokens:
Note: These are the tokens available to each driver before the 10 tokens are added for making the race start.

Driver	Tokens	Status
Alain Maurice	13	Works
bagrupp	5	Works
Clive Loynes	20	Works
Cookie	5	Works
Doni Yourth	17	Works
Dulima	15	Works
Enrique Farina	15	Works
EvilClive	18	Works
fpolicardi	12	Works
Gareth	0	Works
GrandPrixYannick	10	Works
JonnyO	10	Works
Phil Thornton	15	Works
Raoni Frizzo	20	Works
Albert Hallu	10	Privateer
bernie	7	Privateer
covisi2016	0	Privateer
Daniel_San	10	Privateer
francesco	0	Privateer
maddog	15	Privateer
maestro57	10	Privateer
PaulV	10	Privateer
Ricardo Valim da Silva	15	Privateer
tagomago	15	Privateer

Hi Phil,

I think that I should only have 17 tokens.  But if you insist on giving me the other three then I can put them to good use!

I've got you driving these:
Connaught Type B   Gordini Type 16    Gordini Type 16   Mercedes-Benz W196 SL    Lancia D50

Which works out to be:
10 + (10 - 5) + (10 - 0) + (10 - 0) + (10 -20) + (10 - 15)  = 20

So I think the 20 is right.

Ooops!

Thanks Phil.  I had changed my car for Reims but not updated the price. 

Good job you are on the ball!

Can you check my pints tally too as I actually ran a Gordini for the first 3 races , I had my mecs fit the maser body kit so as to impress the sponser ! ;D

A good choice Clive, you still managed to win without spending the extra 3 tokens on the Merc. Perfect Judgment :) . I think you'll need all the tokens you can get to fend off Mr Evil. The championship is very tight between you two again this season.

The scrutineers rumbled you Bernie, but it could have been Gladys or Mable Glutbucket that tipped them off. Either way, no extra tokens this time  ;D.

Practice server is up on iGOR.

Hi Phil,

Can you confirm that to me please =

You have to add 10 points to your total points before a race to find out the maximum total that we are entitled to for the choice of the car?
Example for me, 13 points before the race + 10 points to start, so I am entitled to 23 points?

Thank you for the details and server training.

Hi Alain
Yes you are correct. 13 + 10 = 23. So you have enough tokens to drive any car.

Thanks Phil

At lap 20 problem with my steering wheel,hadn't happened for months but now is here again and i have not understood why.

  Congrats Clive !!!!!! :thumbup1:

  Great race , Silverstone is fun with mod55 and the Vanwall is good car in this track , nice and difficult battle with Phill in the final race!!!!

I've loaded the chassis the drivers used into the token calculator spreadsheet.  For the next race the available tokens will be as declared in the table below (the table will also appear in the next race announcement).  The calculated values are automated but selecting the cars is a manual process so please check your tokens to make sure I haven't made a silly error. There was no token overspend for this round so no one is disqualified.

Driver	Tokens	Status
Alain Maurice	11	Works
bagrupp	3	Works
Clive Loynes	15	Works
Cookie	5	Works
Doni Yourth	27	Works
Dulima	25	Works
Enrique Farina	25	Works
EvilClive	18	Works
fpolicardi	12	Works
Gareth	0	Works
GrandPrixYannick	10	Works
JonnyO	10	Works
Phil Thornton	13	Works
Raoni Frizzo	20	Works
Albert Hallu	10	Privateer
bernie	5	Privateer
covisi2016	10	Privateer
Daniel_San	10	Privateer
francesco	5	Privateer
maddog	15	Privateer
maestro57	10	Privateer
PaulV	10	Privateer
Ricardo Valim da Silva	25	Privateer
tagomago	10	Privateer

I did much better than expected here, I didn't make any big mistakes which is unusual for me. I do like the Maserati, I've not driven it much but I find it easy to drive, good handing and good engine.

I managed to hang onto the top five for the first couple of laps whilst the tyres warmed up and I got into a good rhythm. I nipped past Tagomago and got on the back of Alain. I had a great battle with Alain and Bastian for six or seven laps (I think) swapping places several times. Fortunately for me I managed to get ahead and break the tow. I set off in pursuit of JonnyO but I didn't expect to make much progress. To my surprise I did get a lot closer. Probably helped by JonnyO's trip up the banking after Club. I saw the Vanwall bouncing along the banking in the distance and I was sure JonnyO had trashed his car but he continued having lost 5 or 6 seconds. With 3 laps to go I got within about 50 metres of JonnyO but I couldn't get any closer, he was just too good. Still, a podium finish with the leader still in my sight was a great result for me.

Windows update?

 There are no more Windows update,i have W-7.Normally the problem is due to some parameter setting but are memorized.
Lately the setting was switched from PC to Playstation,than switched again to PC by me.I don't kmow if this could be a cause.

Hard luck Fran.  It's a shame because you have been putting together a good season in the 55s.

Sorry for no show, I was back home too late for start.
Next one.

Hi all

Well done Clive, JonnyO and Phil

Phil Concerning Clive, did you tell him that he was no longer entitled to win a race until the end of the championship? :)

My race, correct start but Bastian is on fire, he passes me at the first corner then also overtakes another driver, what speed !!!!!!
I am careful because I fear the management of the brakes.
I manage to iron Bastian who is at fault but come back to us Phil with great ease, his Maserati is blue and I imagine that it is a Gordini lol !!! I would like to test your setup because you were much faster than me with the same car.
All the rest of the race, Bastian will put pressure on me, luckily I would manage to keep my place but without these errors he too would have passed because he was also very fast.

Thanks to everyone and to the Admins :)

Yesterday Magic had its birthday and tomorrow it will be Fluvio, so happy birthday friends :)

Congrats to Jonny and Phil.

Right up until Sunday morning I was undecided which car to use, Evil's Lancia or the Merc.  Eventually I decided that with the Lancia it was easier to keep the brakes healthy at racing speed.  The test being "Do you at least have a yellow light when approaching Club?".

Prib says that the Lancia has a 1:42 in it but I don't seem to be able to find it.  ;-(

This win must be down to everyone saving their tokens for IMS in two weeks time, and Evil taking a day off.  What he was up to in qually is a mystery!

Jonny made a good start and it took a couple of corners to establish myself at the front.  Once there I had a reasonable advantage over the chasing pack and was able to pull away for a reasonable comfort zone.  

I made a mistake at Woocote on one lap, which brought Jonny back into slipstream range, but I think that his increased effort caused him to have a moment at Club.  In fact, after what I had seen in my mirrors I was surprised that he was still running.

After that he dropped back a little and it wasn't until the last few laps, when I eased off to save having to lap the scrap between Doni and Dulma in their Economy Class Gordinis, that he was able to get closer.

Thanks to UKGPL for the racing.

See you at IMS.

If you are still using your USB3 hub, I would guess there is a strong chance this was the cause. As far as I can ascertain, anything that changes the USB inputs can cause the USB3 drivers to reconfigure with unpredictable results. I steer clear from using USB3 with my controllers (an English joke but not very funny in the circumstances  ::)).

Even with this bit of bad luck, Fran has a very strong lead in the Privateers championship. A great season so far Fran  :thumbup2:

I used the default setup. I just changed the steering ratio from 20:1 to 10:1 and fuelled with 14 gallons. I've always found setups a personal thing. It all depends on driving style. I'm often slower with an Alien setup than I am with a default setup. It just happens that the default 55 setups seem to suite me. I can't say the same for the default 68E setups, they are undrivable for me.

I saw the same incident from the exit of Stowe. I was a long way off so I didn't see clearly what happened but I was surprised JonnyO didn't damage his car and give me a chance to catch up.

If he isn't careful he could be heading for the Pro Ranks.   ;D

Anyway , until now, i did not have engine explosion :laugh:
This morning i had the same problem in a test but after a recalibration seem all ok. Could be that the switch from pc to playstation causes loss of calibration? I 'm not sure for the moment, i must test again.

For USB3 mean you a box with some USB socket?I have a box with 4 socket derived from the 2 USB that i have in my PC.
One is used for the mouse and the other for the box.I don't have other solution since i have 3 device;the wheel,the pedals and the gear box.
The 4th is used for the printer.

Hehe yes it was a good start alain, thx for noticing.

I was having a fun race with alain, phil most of the time but my brakes were so red and the car was quite nervous.
So i was lucky touching the wall 3 times without damage and losing ground again and again.

Hi all! Save Accelerated!

First of all, I want to wish our brothers a happy birthday,to Magic and Fluvio, many laps on the track of life!

About the race, once again I had frame problems at the start, was only stabilizing at the end of the opposite straight.

With that, I lose a lot of positions at the start and I still jeopardize the race of others.

Silverstone is a big challenge for me, mainly in relation to the brakes.

Me, Doni and Bernie, we have a beautiful dispute.

Thanks Bernie, for returning the position in touch between us, I know you had problems with the brakes and you were a gentleman in waiting for me and returning the position

But with that Doni arrived and with his experience it was going to be difficult to sustain the position ahead of him

In a mistake of mine because of the brake, I lost my position to Doni

I tried everything to win it back but the brakes didn’t help to fight in the brakes

In downshifting I was starting to get worried about the engine temperature

So, the thing was to walk around and wait for his mistake, that it would be very difficult to happen

I ended up stuck in it and happy for the race.

Congratulations on the victory Clive Loynes and congratulations to the Jonny and Phill podium

Yes, if I remember correctly you said the two USB ports on your computer are USB3 (i.e. coloured blue). The black ports (USB2) are the best ones to use for controllers but if you don't have one there is not much you can do (apart from adding a USB 2.0 PCI card, i.e. something like this (https://www.amazon.co.uk/CSL-Controller-interface-internal-compatible/dp/B00ST18KMW/ref=pd_lpo_147_t_0/261-1662539-3664349?_encoding=UTF8&pd_rd_i=B00ST18KMW&pd_rd_r=ae536802-922b-4047-8985-b59bb06831c7&pd_rd_w=2IWRq&pd_rd_wg=iMFPz&pf_rd_p=7b8e3b03-1439-4489-abd4-4a138cf4eca6&pf_rd_r=GKNE8TZEQ08GA3DJQCBQ&psc=1&refRID=GKNE8TZEQ08GA3DJQCBQ))

Thank you for all information Phil.

I was surprised how many people were bemoaning the absence of their brakes at Silverstone, as this isn't a circuit that is particularly brake sensitive.

I only use my brakes at four places and it is just a matter of reducing brake usage at these corners until you can approach Club on each lap with at least a yellow brake light.  A yellow brake light is good for one good stab on the brakes.

Much more problems at Roy and East L. For me there is no way to maintain the brake in a decent color.

I agree Fran.  I'm doing my homework on East London at the minute and it is particularly difficult.  The approach taken for the race may have to be considerably different to that used in qually!

I was surprised as well, not remembering having Problems here. Maybe my pedals have uncalibrated again....so the brake is already 100% even the paddle is not at the bottom,

Brakes ? so that's what I'm doing wrong  ::)

Save Faster

Just yesterday, that talking to Ricardo Silva, he told me that I touched Doni in T1

Doni, forgive me, my car was very difficult to control

This problem I'm having at the start is difficult

So, because of my problem, I'll drop the rest of the championship at the end of the grid, so as not to run the risk of disturbing anyone

Again, I'm sorry Doni and some other pilot that I may have hindered

We will always be together

Relax, Eddie.  Don't beat yourself up over this.  By all means, continue to run our races with speed and determination.  I regard you as a safe, competent competitor as well as a very good amigo.  :)

I don't use Pribluda so never know just whom is about me til I see my pit board so didn't know who you were off the start and run down to Copse.  We did seem to have contact in T1 but in looking closely at the replay, I can see that you touched the inside wall which then propelled you out into my path.  Completely accidental.  It set me back but I sustained no appreciable damage.

Hooking up with you and Bernie later on, it was a gas!  :)  Pity that we lost Bernie to a fluke spin late on.  The lap where I got alongside of you going into Woodcote but stayed low to avoid a collision and then you out-gunned me on the run down pit straight to Copse was a real thriller!

Quote from Clive Loynes.
"This win must be down to everyone saving their tokens for IMS in two weeks time, and Evil taking a day off.  What he was up to in qually is a mystery"

I'm finally back in GPL world. Grats to Clive  on the win and to all finishers at Silverstone.

Well, yes there was a cunning plan to collect my tokens to fund my end of season charge up the rankings. Some of you might have heard that I was taking a vacation on a remote clifftop in Cornwall, and that was what screwed my cunning plan  :-\.

The brochure said Wi-Fi available...and it was, but only if you were in a wooden shed in the corner of the caravan site. So, I had loaded up the GPL 55's at home and did a trial run wet and rainy day with my trusty lap top sat in the wi-fi shed.
Woohoo, joined Igor and got myself onto the server, I could use the Gordini on keyboard. All I had to do was get myself into the shed and log on to Igor before 9:30. No qualifying time, just sit on the back of the grid and wait for the pack to rush off. Then crawl across the S/F line and grab 10 tokens......simple ;D what could possibly go wrong??
Quite a lot !!! I discovered lol. At 9:15 my laptop just did not want to hook up to the free wi-fi. I fixed that by beating it with a large stick!
Finally connected to Igor and selected the race server.........now it won't accept the password!!!
More beating with a stick and my Gordini materialised in the pits  ;D. Then it wasn't  :censored:
Quit and rejoin.
Three attempts later I'm back in the pits and waiting for the start.
Then I am suddenly back on desktop!! :scared: with 3 minutes until the start!!
Rejoin again,  just in time, and quali is over .............race about to start...........OK here we go.............and I get a message "your bandwidth is insufficient to maintain the connection", :taz: :taz: :taz: :taz: dumped back to desktop.

So, that is why I appeared and vanished several times. I did not pass go and did not collect 10 tokens thanks to Cornish wi-fi  :-\.
I might even have to do some serious chassis planning to see how I can work the rest of the season and be competitive.

Like all cunning plans, they never turn out as intended. Unlucky Clive, those extra 10 tokens would have been very handy.

Hard luck Evil.

I just need to get Mrs Evil to drag you off to some other remote spot this coming Sunday.   ::)

You will be pleased to know that you had left an evil presence in the pits, so that every time that I started a new lap and headed down to Copse, Prib frightened the life out of me by showing you as the next car behind me.

Thx a lot!

I have just read through the posts here and I am very concerned about Clive's claim to be practising for East London already!!!!  From that I presume that you have also been putting in time on the other remaining tracks???  :scared: :scared:

That sounds like you are taking this series just a little too seriously for my comfort, bearing in mind my loss of tokens recently  :-\

Chortle, chortle......

Going anywhere nice this weekend?