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Title: UKGPL Season 37 (2020) 1967 F1 Sprint - Solitude - Oct 25
Post by: Rainier on October 19, 2020, 02:43:40 PM +0100
Season 37 F1 SPRINT – Round 7 –  SOLITUDE  

The 7th race in the 1967 F1 SPRINT series takes us to Solitude track near Stuttgart in Germany.  
The Solitude race track was used predominantly for motorcycle racing. Not as daunting as the Nuerburgring, but it’s quite a challenge with a deceptively fast back section. Remember this is a left handed circuit.

Server = UKGPL_10
IP = 217.155.118.41
Race date = Sunday 25-10-2020
Time = 21:00 UK time (21:00 GMT)
Track = Solitude (http://srmz.net/index.php?showtopic=7173#entry65855)
Race length = 14 Laps (50 minutes)
Variant = 1967
60fps patch used   = 60fpsV2newmod
Damage Model = Intermediate
Qualifying time = 30-45 minutes
Replay =  here (https://www.sendspace.com/file/2pm834)


Password: see above (#post_event_password)
Driver lists can be found on the championship standings page (https://www.simracing.org.uk/smf/index.php?action=LM2R&group=1152&theme=6)
Please check the Season 37 details (https://www.simracing.org.uk/smf/index.php?action=LM2R&group=1102&theme=6) regarding rules and the 1967 F1 Sprint Championship pages (https://www.simracing.org.uk/smf/index.php?action=LM2R&group=1152&theme=6) in particular.

Drivers must complete 50% of each race to score.

"Works" drivers are not allowed any resets.
"Privateer" drivers are allowed a maximum of one reset with a compulsory Stop & Go within two laps.
Drivers are reminded that Lap 1 incidents carry an extra 1 place penalty.
Only reported incidents will be moderated.

The chassis token system is explained on the championship standings page. Please ensure you choose a chassis that is within your budget, which can be seen by hovering the mouse over your points total in the standings.

Please restrict chat to pit messages including at the end of the race until ALL drivers still racing have crossed the line.

Works drivers are :
Angex
Bagrupp
Doni Yourth
Pepe Higdon
Ricardo Da Silva
Dulima
Phil Thornton
Baab
MagicArsouille
Arf Arf Arf
Gareth
Iestyn Davies
DuFossa
Markus Friedrich


Privateers drivers are :
Albert Hallu
Billy Nobrakes
Dave Curtis
David Sochenna
PaulV
Francesco
Bernie Darwin
karliss
Daniel_San
Badblood
Maestro57


Title: Re: UKGPL Season 37 (2020) 1967 F1 Sprint - Solitude - Oct 25
Post by: Rainier on October 24, 2020, 10:37:57 AM +0100

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Title: Re: UKGPL Season 37 (2020) 1967 F1 Sprint - Solitude - Oct 25
Post by: Cookie on October 24, 2020, 11:37:06 AM +0100

DO NOT FORGET : in countries that don't change their daylight hours, the server will be started an hour later.

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UK (along with most of Europe) will change time zone during next night (saturday 24/10 to sunday 25/10)


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Title: Re: UKGPL Season 37 (2020) 1967 F1 Sprint - Solitude - Oct 25
Post by: Rainier on October 24, 2020, 11:54:47 AM +0100
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Title: Re: UKGPL Season 37 (2020) 1967 F1 Sprint - Solitude - Oct 25
Post by: Arf Arf Arf on October 25, 2020, 09:53:35 PM +0000
Sorry Andreas, not quite sure what happened there. Coming down towards Schaetten I braked well before when I'd usually do so, conscious it was L1 and I was faster than usual because of your draft... from Baab's cockpit I see that my front left locked and smoked coming over the crest of the hill and after that I was a passenger. I think Phil got taken out as well, apologies.

Off the line I beat whoever was in p2 to the corner but saw that Markus had gone into the bales and had to avoid him bouncing back onto the track, which caused some issues too. All in all not a great night...


Title: Re: UKGPL Season 37 (2020) 1967 F1 Sprint - Solitude - Oct 25
Post by: Phil Thornton on October 25, 2020, 10:08:54 PM +0000
Very disappointing race for me. Arf lost control at Schatten on lap 1 and took out Andreas which blocked the track. I had to practically stop to wait for the carnage to settle down so I could pick a way past. The only space was on the right. Unfortunately Doni had the same idea; we were both unsighted and touched wheels. Very minor contact which Doni probably didn't feel but it was enough to nudge me into Andreas' Lotus. The GPL gods took over and decided to flip me upside down. No shift-R for me this season so race over.

No blame on Doni (or Arf for that matter) just bad luck for me. Hopefully have better luck next time.

Hope everyone has better luck for the rest of the race.


Title: Re: UKGPL Season 37 (2020) 1967 F1 Sprint - Solitude - Oct 25
Post by: francesco on October 25, 2020, 10:37:47 PM +0000
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Hope everyone has better luck for the rest of the race.
Not properly,at lap 3(if i remeber)smoke from the engine and S&G after an engine explosion during qualy but after few meters.
Anyway I'm not complaining too much ,It could have been worse.


Title: Re: UKGPL Season 37 (2020) 1967 F1 Sprint - Solitude - Oct 25
Post by: BadBlood on October 25, 2020, 10:40:00 PM +0000
Just wanted to get more than half distance.

Had a mare in qually - pulled out on somebody - I did look but you weren't there and then you were...

Then I dropped my tea as I finished my first sighter lap, I was trying to move over out of the way of a Ferrari and hit the brakes accidentally. Sorry again.

As for the race, had a few laps with company but I was just aiming to race within my very diminished capabilities. Each time I pushed it I managed to spin... Still. Didn't get lapped and did 9 laps. Did NOT want to get in anyone's way so I pulled in and quit.

I am really struggling with motion sickness. Not sure why. So I wasn't feeling that good when I finished. Being even remotely racey seems a LONG way off.





Title: Re: UKGPL Season 37 (2020) 1967 F1 Sprint - Solitude - Oct 25
Post by: Pepe Higdon on October 25, 2020, 11:03:42 PM +0000
Long, high-speed tracks  --- Sachsenring, Brno, Solitude, and that ilk --- are tough on old Pepe. Forty-five corners? Come on, it's all I can do to figure out half the ones at Elkhart Lake, and it has only fourteen altogether. But I spent a lot of time here in practice, knowing that I'd always be seven seconds or more behind the leaders each lap but hoping that attrition would do its usual ugly thing. It did, and quickly. I tiptoed through each of the yard sales in the first two corners (Note: when a touring motorcyclist crashes out on a highway and every single thing formerly attached to his bike has been strewn out over two acres, we call that a "yard sale"). So there I was, not 500 yards into the race, and my modest 9th place grid position had been upgraded to fourth.

At the start of L2 I heard the distinctive oinking of a BRM behind me, saw that it was Markus, and let him by as quickly as I could. I don't fight for positions with guys who can eat me for lunch. I was back then to fifth, watching him creep away while I began putting some distance between me and Dave, then later Billy. One of the leaders dropped out maybe with five laps to go, kicking me back into fourth, and by race's end I was forty seconds behind Doni and forty seconds ahead of Billy. It had been a very lonely race, the very essence of Solitude, and one without a single moment of butt-clenching drama. After a disastrous performance at Watkins Glen '71 yesterday in oAo (on my damned birthday), Solitude revived my spirits altogether. But I still don't think I'd vote for the track for next year's schedule. Did I mention how many corners it has?  :)


Title: Re: UKGPL Season 37 (2020) 1967 F1 Sprint - Solitude - Oct 25
Post by: dave curtis on October 25, 2020, 11:27:10 PM +0000
Server replay available from:  here (https://www.sendspace.com/file/2pm834)
Also added to event details page.


Title: Re: UKGPL Season 37 (2020) 1967 F1 Sprint - Solitude - Oct 25
Post by: Phil Thornton on October 25, 2020, 11:42:41 PM +0000
I am really struggling with motion sickness. Not sure why. So I wasn't feeling that good when I finished.
Can't say I've had that problem Paul. It isn't screen flicker is it? I can't drive with 36FPS anymore. It wasn't too bad on small screens but with a big screen I need 60FPS. I know you are using the 60FPS patch but is your monitor able to cope?


Title: Re: UKGPL Season 37 (2020) 1967 F1 Sprint - Solitude - Oct 25
Post by: BadBlood on October 26, 2020, 12:12:42 AM +0000
I think it might be the 60 fps - sometimes the screen update gets very juddery and the frame rate suddenly drops awfully. I suspect it might be something to do with the anti-vitrus. I have a new Graphics card which is due to be deployed. Might help.

What is a competitive time for Mexico btw. At least I don't have to learn that track. I just went and tried and was getting 1:57 in the BRM Brabham  ;D. Not in the 1:40's is it? :(


Title: Re: UKGPL Season 37 (2020) 1967 F1 Sprint - Solitude - Oct 25
Post by: bagrupp on October 26, 2020, 10:11:12 AM +0000
What a race. Win in my home race, unexpected.

Markus was incredibly fast in the training. I was happy to avoid him in Turn 1 after the start, finding a way on the very left and got the lead.
I knew he would came back, still seeing his name in pribluda.

But first i was pressured by Bob, who was also fast in the brm. i messed up once, took the emergency exit. Rejoined in front of Markus.
We closed up to Bob, who missed the emergency exit once and i believe he had to retire, sorry.

So Markus put pressure onto me and i tried to sustain this time, not messing up like in the last corner of Rouen.
Markus tried an attack on the last lap, i did not watch the replay. I went airborne and was lucky not to turn over or lose a wheel.
Very fair Markus waited for me to rejoin (as we had some gap to Doni) and did not attack another time for the last half lap.

Grats to all finishers, thx for Racing.


Title: Re: UKGPL Season 37 (2020) 1967 F1 Sprint - Solitude - Oct 25
Post by: Markus Friedrich on October 26, 2020, 11:36:20 AM +0000
Grats to Bastian for a truly deserved victory! And grats to all finisher. I like Solitude a lot but it is rather unforgiving. Almost all corners are very fast and if you got one wheel on the grass you easily end up spinning and damaging your car. The intermediate damage model saved me at least twice.
Not sure what happened to Bob but it looked like a very good race from him as well. It would be a real pity if he just suffered a disconnect. He would have deserved the victory as well!

My start was really bad. My RPM dropped at the start so I had a really slow getaway. Unfortunately it got worse and I missed my braking point for the first corner drifting into the hay bales. This caused a big mess at the start as other drivers tried to avoid me. Apologies for my mistake.
After a couple of laps I was already third again and chased down Bastian. I tried to pressure him into a mistake. However, this only led to me making mistakes myself. I think I spun two or three times. One time I was even touching a barrier but without damage thanks to the lenient damage model.

In the last lap my plan was to attack Bastian after the long straight. I tried this once before but Bastian could defend the inside of the curve. So this time I wanted to get closer to Bastian before we reached the straight. When we arrived at Frauenkreutz it looked to my like he missed his line slightly, I tried to get closer but ended in tapping the back of his car. I was really happy Bastian could continue so I waited for him to rejoin the track in front of me.


Title: Re: UKGPL Season 37 (2020) 1967 F1 Sprint - Solitude - Oct 25
Post by: bernie on October 26, 2020, 01:31:17 PM +0000
There are certain times when this is simm drives me nuts and this was one of them . During practice I could get no better than low 1m46's but thought that was Ok for mid field racing , Made a decent start and managed to negotiate my way through the lap 1 disaster, when the dust settled that put me in a healthy position ahead of Dave C who was pushing hard in his Coop through the twizzy stuff but I had the power advantage on the straight bits ( I'm getting good at those ) and was managing to keep him behind , Then on the fast downhill bit my Repco engine exploded in a spectacular shower of valves and con rods , all went silent and Dave was through , I coasted to a halt then remembered shift R was allowed so called my mechs to come out and fit a new engine , this they did in record time and off i went again only for the same thing to happen at exactly the same place on the very next lap.
Ive done quite a few laps of Soli and never had an engine blow up , I even had an extra high ratio 5th fitted to keep the rpm's low on the fast stuff , all I can think is there is a hump at this part of the track when the rear end gets light and becomes unstuck , allowing the revs to go off the scale . But why t should happen twice in this race on succesive laps and never had this happen before ??? your guess is as good as mine !

Enjoyed the race while it lasted , grats to all who finished , tough luck those who didn' t  ;D

 


Title: Re: UKGPL Season 37 (2020) 1967 F1 Sprint - Solitude - Oct 25
Post by: Billy Nobrakes on October 26, 2020, 05:15:03 PM +0000
I did a fair bit of practice as I'm still playing around with setups & the new pedals. As has been mentioned by several drivers it's all to easy to make a tiny error that ends in disaster. During practice I thought I had found all the possible places where you can crash.

During qually I found a rhythm that allowed to lap around 3,38. Two secs down on my best but keeping the car on the grey stuff. Attrition rate was high & I found myself in 6th place following Pepe. Could have stayed there but for a couple of off track moments which fortunately didn't do any long term damage to the car. I swapped places  & accidents with Dave Curtis a couple of times. Should have been a safe  P5 but I lost concentration after one of the kinks in the long straight & needed a reset. That will cost me a time penalty after moderation.

Well done to Markus for exceptional pace & Bastian for taking the win in his home race.

Also, my compliments to the faster drivers on the grid who are voluntarily taking the BRM. Whilst you are still taking the podium places it makes the racing more entertaining.


Title: Re: UKGPL Season 37 (2020) 1967 F1 Sprint - Solitude - Oct 25
Post by: Phil Thornton on October 26, 2020, 08:40:15 PM +0000
I think it might be the 60 fps - sometimes the screen update gets very juddery and the frame rate suddenly drops awfully. I suspect it might be something to do with the anti-vitrus. I have a new Graphics card which is due to be deployed. Might help.
You can normally set the antivirus to ignore specific directories. If you set it not to dynamically virus check your GPL directory, it won't check files as they write to disk during a race. The other thing to check is that you have a graphics profile set up for each GPL executable. GPL is an old game so the graphics settings have to be done manually. Both of these potential solutions depend on the antivirus and graphics vendor you are using but the principle is the same. The final thing to do is reduce the detail setting in GPL. It is important to get a solid 58-60 FPS, anything less and you will struggle.

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What is a competitive time for Mexico btw. At least I don't have to learn that track. I just went and tried and was getting 1:57 in the BRM Brabham  ;D. Not in the 1:40's is it? :(
If you click on the circuits tab (in blue above), the track list will popup. Find Mexico and click on that and it will list all the UKGPL races at Mexico (you should get this (https://www.simracing.org.uk/smf/index.php?action=LM2R&location=109&circuit=0)). Scrolling back through the list to find the last "Privateers" race (don't look at the Works, it is scary) and you will find S31 Round 10 (https://www.simracing.org.uk/smf/index.php?topic=14447#event5358). If you can get down to a 1:54 in the Brabham you will be competitive.


Title: Re: UKGPL Season 37 (2020) 1967 F1 Sprint - Solitude - Oct 25
Post by: AnGex on October 27, 2020, 05:11:07 PM +0000
Sorry Andreas, not quite sure what happened there. Coming down towards Schaetten I braked well before when I'd usually do so, conscious it was L1 and I was faster than usual because of your draft... from Baab's cockpit I see that my front left locked and smoked coming over the crest of the hill and after that I was a passenger. I think Phil got taken out as well, apologies.

...


Another Race with no fun... :(


Title: Re: UKGPL Season 37 (2020) 1967 F1 Sprint - Solitude - Oct 25
Post by: Baab on October 28, 2020, 09:51:16 PM +0000

Not sure what happened to Bob but it looked like a very good race from him as well. It would be a real pity if he just suffered a disconnect. He would have deserved the victory as well!



No disconnect just a spin which sent me down a very steep banking that I couldn't re-emerge from, my mistake.  Race was alright from my perspective but I was trying the cockpit view for the first time so I could react quicker in some downhill sections where the car obscures the view...  Anyways, took a bit of adjusting to but I was almost as quick and seemed to crash less.  I didn't seem to settle down in the race though and constantly felt on edge right up until my crash.  I did a bit of praccy and expected to qualify in the 32s but crashed soo many times that only at the death did I manage a reasonable time in the 34s to put me 6th. 

I made a reasonable start and was conscious not to be too aggressive into T1.  Markus' brush against the bales livened things up and I managed to move up a position or two.  Arf then lost it on the brakes in spectacular fashion unfortunately taking Andreas out.  That put me P2 which became P1 when Bastian took the escape road.  I was keeping an eye on prib since I knew Markus was still in the hunt and had plenty of pace to burn ( I watched one of your qual laps, super smooth and impressively quick!).  Bastian and Markus caught me after a few laps with the gap yo-yoing a bit but the fight was cut short by my exit.

Cheers for the racing, see you in Mexico, where I may take a slightly quicker chassis!



Title: Re: UKGPL Season 37 (2020) 1967 F1 Sprint - Solitude - Oct 25
Post by: Rainier on November 03, 2020, 09:29:31 AM +0000
Moderation posted.

Thanks Billy to have reported you made a shift-R in the last lap.

Thanks to all drivers for your clean race.


Title: Re: UKGPL Season 37 (2020) 1967 F1 Sprint - Solitude - Oct 25
Post by: Doni Yourth on November 03, 2020, 03:30:55 PM +0000
'Cordial' is not a word I'd describe my interactions with Bastian over the last several seasons with the UKGPL.  In fact, after being trashed by him a number of times in Season 33 in 2018, I left this board in disgust for a time.  Be that as it may, I must give him credit for a fine drive to the win at this very difficult circuit.  It takes no prisoners.  Full marks on the victory, Bas.

Markus must be thanking his lucky stars for a P2 finish as he sampled the German forest several times but came away in one piece...more or less...to take up P2 in the standings.  Great pace in the BRM making me look rather pedestrian, in fact.

A P3 for me was looking pretty solid but with just over a lap to go, I had my life flash in front of my eyes as a careless exit off a corner had a wheel in the grass and the resulting wheelspin under power had me dash across the road and drill a guardrail HARD.  How I didn't have a wheel...or two...sheared off could only be put down to the race being run under advanced damage mode instead of full pro.  Otherwise...

Of course, the race was a gift for some places as the Lap01 shunt at the end of the back straight eliminated no less than three top guns.  Geeezzz...  Poor Phil had the misfortune of banging wheels with me as we each searched for way 'round two inverted cars and that contact had him turn turtle.  WTF?  At little more than a trotting pace, he was flipped over.  That can only be put down to GPL vastly over-reacting to the collision.

Escaping with my skin still intact, I found myself well up and as ever at this venue, the object was two-fold.   #1. finish; #2. score no 64's.  That last is a personal goal to avoid the obvious time-saving but somewhat dubious ethical tactic of running through the grass at many places here.  With the obvious off-track laps scored on Lap01 and the near-disaster of Lap13, I managed only one '64'.

Baab was nicely placed and set for a good score but a minor slide turned into a race-ending retirement as he got stuck in a ditch at the Chalet.  Bad luck indeed, there, Baab.

Kudos to Pepe for keeping it all together for a P4 finish and scoring only four 64's.  Ditto to Syd for hanging in there for a finish in the Red Ball Special.