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Title: UKAC Season 16 - Zandvoort - Nov 11
Post by: FullMetalGasket on November 05, 2020, 03:04:41 PM +0000
(https://i.pinimg.com/originals/04/21/53/042153cd9621898ff3f52defb29530ec.jpg)

After what seems to have been a very well balanced field at the 'Ring we move to Zandvoort for a test race next - this allows us to see if the restrictor used on the Ford applies equally at sea-level.

Same as last time it will be a 30 minute sprint, use what ever tires you fancy!
Anyone that can practice with all 4 cars will be appreciated, I'll be doing all 4 myself, but know I have strong favourites that I'm better in so that will likely skew the times.

The hope is that I can come up with a suitable handicapping baseline to allow a series to be run - that will then have some further success ballast added depending on championship position (In order to smooth out the changes smoothly across the season).


Password: see above

Practice: 19:30 (45 mins)
Qual: 20:15 (15 mins)
Race: 20:30  (30 mins + 1 lap)


Cars allowed:
Alfa 155 (+11Kg ballast, 10% (-42Hp) restrictor)
BMW M3 DTM (no handicap)
Ford Sierra R500 V3.03 (+20Kg Ballast, 50% restrictor (turbos don't respond the same as N/A before you ask!)
https://www.racedepartment.com/downloads/ford-sierra-cosworth-rs500-pack.24027/ (https://www.racedepartment.com/downloads/ford-sierra-cosworth-rs500-pack.24027/)
Mercedes 190E DTM (+6Kg ballast, 1% (-6.3Hp) restrictor.

The above handicapping brings everything to roughly 2.7Kg/Hp apart from the Ford - as it's Turbocharged, it has epic torque and is faster than it should be - providing the mod team got their figures right.

Track: Zandvoort (Kunos stock version)



Live Timing: here (http://stracker.simracing.org.uk:50041/lapstat)

Time of Day Setting: 15:00
Weather: Mid-clear
Start: Standing
Tyre wear: Normal
Fuel consumption: Normal
Pit-stops: Not required

Server track settings:
SESSION_START=100
RANDOMNESS=0
LAP_GAIN=0
SESSION_TRANSFER=N/a

Damage: 80%

Password: see above

PLP App - Not used in this series. Cutting will be monitored on replay and penalties issued for excessive cutting.


Title: Re: UKAC Season 16 - Zandvoort - Nov 11
Post by: picnic on November 05, 2020, 03:13:53 PM +0000
Forgive my stupidity but is this a new series or fun/test races prior to the series?


Title: Re: UKAC Season 16 - Zandvoort - Nov 11
Post by: FullMetalGasket on November 05, 2020, 03:29:36 PM +0000
Fun/test race while checking suitability for a future series.
These have always been popular to drive, but a nightmare to balance - I've spent 3 or 4 hours on them to get the BOP we used at Nurby last night and it seems to have worked a lot better than last time :)

(It's in the first line of the description :P )


Title: Re: UKAC Season 16 - Zandvoort - Nov 11
Post by: KDiesel on November 05, 2020, 04:53:57 PM +0000
Forgive my stupidity but is this a new series or fun/test races prior to the series?

Hopefully we get series up, these cars offer good fun and excitement. Getting these totally balanced is maybe impossible, I think what is important that every cars pros & cons are in balance.


Title: Re: UKAC Season 16 - Zandvoort - Nov 11
Post by: Stefan aka Postal on November 06, 2020, 09:46:57 AM +0000
Cool. I will hop into the Sierra again for the race. If I can make time I will test the other cars too.


Title: Re: UKAC Season 16 - Zandvoort - Nov 11
Post by: Syd Drake on November 06, 2020, 03:27:27 PM +0000
Forgive my stupidity but is this a new series or fun/test races prior to the series?

Hopefully we get series up, these cars offer good fun and excitement. Getting these totally balanced is maybe impossible, I think what is important that every cars pros & cons are in balance.

I too think we don't need too much balancing. I think I would prefer there would be a difference between cars, I much prefer that to a spec series.


Title: Re: UKAC Season 16 - Zandvoort - Nov 11
Post by: FullMetalGasket on November 06, 2020, 03:36:59 PM +0000
Unbalanced and it's just 4 separate spec races at the same time though.
Merc is a second faster than the BMW, Alfa is 2 seconds faster than the Merc. Ford is possibly faster again than the Alfa.

With a spot of balancing the cars will all have strengths and weaknesses still.
Merc has top speed, alfa has grip, BMW has agility, Ford has low down grunt and amazing brakes.
All I need is to get them close. Trying to do this based on a single circuit at an altitude of ~500 meters altitude when one car is Turbo and the other 3 aren't simply won't work.


Title: Re: UKAC Season 16 - Zandvoort - Nov 11
Post by: KDiesel on November 06, 2020, 04:12:49 PM +0000

Merc has top speed (Monza, Albert Park), alfa has grip (Spa, Silverstone), BMW has agility (Monaco, Ahvenisto), Ford has low down grunt and amazing brakes ( any Tilkedrome will do).
All I need is to get them close. Trying to do this based on a single circuit at an altitude of ~500 meters altitude when one car is Turbo and the other 3 aren't simply won't work.

I did little editing your post and series is ready to go, you're welcome. :)


Title: Re: UKAC Season 16 - Zandvoort - Nov 11
Post by: Syd Drake on November 06, 2020, 06:19:25 PM +0000
Unbalanced and it's just 4 separate spec races at the same time though.
Merc is a second faster than the BMW, Alfa is 2 seconds faster than the Merc. Ford is possibly faster again than the Alfa.

With a spot of balancing the cars will all have strengths and weaknesses still.
Merc has top speed, alfa has grip, BMW has agility, Ford has low down grunt and amazing brakes.
All I need is to get them close. Trying to do this based on a single circuit at an altitude of ~500 meters altitude when one car is Turbo and the other 3 aren't simply won't work.

I'm also 2+ seconds a lap slower than you in the same car, and it's not just me. So differences between cars could bring the difference between the drivers closer (or further of course) apart.


Title: Re: UKAC Season 16 - Zandvoort - Nov 11
Post by: Manteos on November 06, 2020, 09:47:24 PM +0000
I tried to join the server a couple of minutes ago, but I always receive the same message: "PROBLEM DURING CHECKSUM". :'( :'( :'( :'(

As I'm sure I've installed in the right path that Sierra pack from the link provided by Tim, and given the fact Zandvoort is a default track... I'm running out of ideas  ???

So, at the moment, I can't be helpful  ::) ::)


Title: Re: UKAC Season 16 - Zandvoort - Nov 11
Post by: Mark J on November 07, 2020, 10:01:41 AM +0000
I commend Tim’s efforts to bring some balance to this great car set. We all know what happens if there is a clear advantage for one car. Doesn’t need to be spot on as us regulars will choose the car that we like the most anyway and I certainly don’t mind if different cars are stronger at different tracks, that’s racing life.  :)

@matteo, can only be the Sierra causing you issues. Did you update it rather than fresh install?  Maybe delete it and reinstall? The rest are stock kunos


Title: Re: UKAC Season 16 - Zandvoort - Nov 11
Post by: FullMetalGasket on November 07, 2020, 11:28:15 AM +0000
It could also be the Merc, the file on the server was out of date when I first tried running the Nurburgring round - Do the integrity check for your local files in AC (might be worth deleting (Back up first!) some of the physics files before doing it? Just be aware it will over write any sound packs you have installed)

But otherwise I have to assume the Sierra - you're certain you have version 3.03 and not the other Sierra on RD?


Title: Re: UKAC Season 16 - Zandvoort - Nov 11
Post by: Syd Drake on November 07, 2020, 07:29:22 PM +0000
All I'm saying I prefer cars to be driven as they are, rather than butchering them to make them artificially the same. Then you're not driving the dtm mercedes, or dtm alfa, or dtm bmw, but some mixed up general car. And if you're worried about everyone taking the fastest car, there are other way to moderate that. Right here in GPL section you have tokens. Or a simple rule saying you can drive any car only once or twice a season. I'm sure there are other examples as well.
I'll drive anyway, just it doesn't feel very realistic to change cars like this, and we are supposed to be sim enthusiast.


Title: Re: UKAC Season 16 - Zandvoort - Nov 11
Post by: Mark J on November 07, 2020, 09:17:26 PM +0000
@syd I’m all for realism for sure, but using air restrictors and ballast is fair game in racing in my book. Are you saying a BoP’d Ferrari in gt3 isn’t a Ferrari ?  :P


Title: Re: UKAC Season 16 - Zandvoort - Nov 11
Post by: Manteos on November 07, 2020, 09:44:38 PM +0000

But otherwise I have to assume the Sierra - you're certain you have version 3.03 and not the other Sierra on RD?

I don't get probably what you're trying to say Tim. I have the Sierra 3.03 downloaded from Race Department by the link of 1st post. Is there another file I have to download?

Did the integrity check of local files and all was good. You're mentioning another Mercedes files that could be the trouble, but I don't get what trouble could be by my side ???

Tried again to delete the cars from "cars" folder, downloaded and unzipped them again in cars folder, but nothing happens. I always get the same message. As I'm not even sure I will have the chance to compete during wednesdays, I guess it's better for me to give up. I have no answer to this, and I won't bother again to reinstall this fuxxing game.

Have fun chaps



Title: Re: UKAC Season 16 - Zandvoort - Nov 11
Post by: FullMetalGasket on November 08, 2020, 08:43:47 AM +0000
Don't give up just yet Manteos.
1st. Check the Sierra can load offline ( it probably will).
2nd. Delete the ks_Zandvoort folder from your tracks directory and run the integrity check again so it reinstalls the track. I'm wondering if you have an old osrw or modified Zandvoort causing the issue.

As for my comment about the Merc, I have to assume it had its physics updated since whenever the previous file was put on the server. As I had to generate a new one before I could successfully enter in the 190. (I had managed to enter in 2 of the other cars before reaching the 190).

It would be a shame if you can't join us as I elways enjoy our battles :(

Syd, I get what you're saying but every form of motorsports since the early 70's has been balanced in some respect - including DTM. As mentioned in the install files for the Sierra, it was fitted with restrictors to allow it to enter DTM as the Group A version (same engine) made over 600Bhp and was illegal according to DTM rules.
The 4 cars we have are from 1987 through to 1994 with no 2 cars from the same championship year,  hence the Alfa making 70hp more than the BMW and being based on a homologation car instead of a stock road car. In a single year of the series the front runners would have been seperate by a small margin of maybe a second, with the cars available to us that margin is now 5 or 6 seconds plus across the field with the same drivers.

As for tokens I suggested that years ago when we had big grids and no one was interested because of the setup time - AC just doesn't attract the same sort of drivers as GPL sadly so I'm doing the best I can.

I have plans for a Grp C series at a later point that leaves the cars unbalanced but will allow any make a chance of victory - this requires heavy work at my end calculating lap times, tire life, and fuel burn (I have a spreadsheet going as this is so complex) and it will be a while before I can run it as a result. If we're lucky I'll get furloughed before Christmas and can put the time In ;)

I'm also thinking of a gpl67 series after the next one which can be left with unbalanced cars. Assuming the tires on it are fixed now, I'm tempted to take the BRM for about laugh


Title: Re: UKAC Season 16 - Zandvoort - Nov 11
Post by: Fabri Fibra on November 08, 2020, 03:23:25 PM +0000
I personally prefer to have balanced cars. I don't like it when I only win because of the car (and it has often happened ;D).

Unfortunately AC preferred to do most iconic cars of the DTM, shareable choice anyway.
The 4 cars in server are of different "generations". Maybe generations is not the correct term, but I think you understand what I mean. Only in 1993, the Alfa 155, Mercedes 190E and BMW M3 E30 (as private teams) raced together, the Sierra was not there I think, and Alfa was a beast. :)

 


Title: Re: UKAC Season 16 - Zandvoort - Nov 11
Post by: Manteos on November 08, 2020, 06:11:00 PM +0000
Don't give up just yet Manteos.
1st. Check the Sierra can load offline ( it probably will).
2nd. Delete the ks_Zandvoort folder from your tracks directory and run the integrity check again so it reinstalls the track. I'm wondering if you have an old osrw or modified Zandvoort causing the issue.

As for my comment about the Merc, I have to assume it had its physics updated since whenever the previous file was put on the server. As I had to generate a new one before I could successfully enter in the 190. (I had managed to enter in 2 of the other cars before reaching the 190).


I just tried everything I can, but nothing works. Deleted all the other DTM cars folder, reinstalled it after the integrity check. Then I did the same with the track. It didn't work.
So I tried to install the OSRW 32 pit version from the link provided by JVD on SRO forum, but it's always the same: "PROBLEM DURING CHECKSUM".

I'd say I've had enough  :-\


Title: Re: UKAC Season 16 - Zandvoort - Nov 11
Post by: Syd Drake on November 08, 2020, 06:42:43 PM +0000
Quote
I'm also thinking of a gpl67 series after the next one which can be left with unbalanced cars.

Yes please :)

I'm already doing some original GPL races here in UKGPL while waiting for the next AC series.

OK, obviously I didn't give a too deep look to the cars beyond "DTM", so I didn't realize they are from such a wide range of years, and the difference is bigger than anything from the same year would be.


Title: Re: UKAC Season 16 - Zandvoort - Nov 11
Post by: IbnSolmyr on November 10, 2020, 05:58:15 PM +0000
I won't be able to make this one, have fun guys !  8)


Title: Re: UKAC Season 16 - Zandvoort - Nov 11
Post by: Stefan aka Postal on November 11, 2020, 08:34:08 AM +0000
Ok. I have been running the Sierra on the server without any problems here. I stopped using Content Manager and it seems to work again without disco's.  Fingers crossed for tonight.

I have been up and down with the setup on the Sierra and nothing seems to get me in the low 1:49's. Must be my driving, but it seems for us mortals this is about the pace of the car. Not to mention it is getting harder to drive when the tires wear off. We will see what it will do tonight.

GPL67 sounds good, as long as it can be run without Content Manager!  ;)


Title: Re: UKAC Season 16 - Zandvoort - Nov 11
Post by: spanner on November 11, 2020, 09:11:54 AM +0000
Another week where i'm working in the evenings and cant make it.


Title: Re: UKAC Season 16 - Zandvoort - Nov 11
Post by: goldtop on November 11, 2020, 11:19:34 AM +0000
I'll probably make this one. Followed suggestions for M3 setup from FMG and MJ and seems a bit better for it. Also increased damping which seems to have settled the car more. Let's see  :-\


Title: Re: UKAC Season 16 - Zandvoort - Nov 11
Post by: FullMetalGasket on November 11, 2020, 02:21:19 PM +0000
GPL67 sounds good, as long as it can be run without Content Manager!  ;)

I've binned off Content Manager recently after it broke the chat functionality (and probably my Rift renderer) and am back to stock again.
If it needs CM then I won't be able to run it anyway!


Title: Re: UKAC Season 16 - Zandvoort - Nov 11
Post by: frex on November 11, 2020, 06:44:44 PM +0000
I'm also getting the checksum error when trying to join server. I can successfully join other servers running Zandvoort, and other servers running the Merc, Alfa and M3, so it's got to be a problem with the Sierra installation. Definitely got the 3.03 version and it loads fine offline. Done the Steam integrity check and tried manually deleting the Sierra files and then re-installing but same result. Like Manteos I'm out of ideas now. No worries, have a good one.


Title: Re: UKAC Season 16 - Zandvoort - Nov 11
Post by: FullMetalGasket on November 11, 2020, 06:56:20 PM +0000
I don't get why this working fine for some people and not for others ???
Given how much else it's broken lately I'd be curious to know if anyone who can't get on is also running CM?


Title: Re: UKAC Season 16 - Zandvoort - Nov 11
Post by: SRW on November 11, 2020, 07:29:05 PM +0000
I am getting checksum error as well

i do not use CM

I got on the server ok for the last round at nurby

@FMG. Have you used the same server file and just changed the track from last time or have you made other changes?


Title: Re: UKAC Season 16 - Zandvoort - Nov 11
Post by: FullMetalGasket on November 11, 2020, 07:31:34 PM +0000
Same file - bare in mind that Fabri, Syd, Stefan and Kimi can all get in fine.


Title: Re: UKAC Season 16 - Zandvoort - Nov 11
Post by: SRW on November 11, 2020, 07:34:44 PM +0000
@fmg. a couple of weeks ago people were complaining about not being able to select gears and exit the pitlane on my TCR sunday night server. I reset the server and the problem went away. have you tried TOTO yet?


Title: Re: UKAC Season 16 - Zandvoort - Nov 11
Post by: FullMetalGasket on November 11, 2020, 07:37:47 PM +0000
If you mean fully reboot the server then no - although the AC server program is reset for the race now so try again if you're availabe.
If we don't get enough people I'll likely cancel tonight though and setup a GPL race for next week instead.

I've sent Manteos my car and track directories so will be interesting to see if he can now join with that (Assuming you can't now we're on the race server)


Title: Re: UKAC Season 16 - Zandvoort - Nov 11
Post by: SRW on November 11, 2020, 07:42:00 PM +0000
If you mean fully reboot the server then no - although the AC server program is reset for the race now so try again if you're availabe.
If we don't get enough people I'll likely cancel tonight though and setup a GPL race for next week instead.

I've sent Manteos my car and track directories so will be interesting to see if he can now join with that (Assuming you can't now we're on the race server)

FYI - I was refering to the basic reset


Title: Re: UKAC Season 16 - Zandvoort - Nov 11
Post by: FullMetalGasket on November 11, 2020, 07:44:27 PM +0000
The AC part of the server is reset now if you fancy a try


Title: Re: UKAC Season 16 - Zandvoort - Nov 11
Post by: SRW on November 11, 2020, 08:32:49 PM +0000
still no joy.

i just tried changing my Sunday server file to the dtm car/track combo and got the same checksum error


Title: Re: UKAC Season 16 - Zandvoort - Nov 11
Post by: KDiesel on November 11, 2020, 09:21:59 PM +0000
I think that Beemers brakes faded somehow...is that even possible?


Title: Re: UKAC Season 16 - Zandvoort - Nov 11
Post by: Bob on November 11, 2020, 09:22:58 PM +0000
 ;D  Great racing Sid was lining up for a drag to the line and bloody spun it. Really enjoyable thanks good and clean :thumbup2:


Title: Re: UKAC Season 16 - Zandvoort - Nov 11
Post by: FullMetalGasket on November 11, 2020, 09:42:43 PM +0000
still no joy.

i just tried changing my Sunday server file to the dtm car/track combo and got the same checksum error

This is just weird - Matteo got in after I sent him my track and car files.
If I stick the server back in practice mode and send you the link, can you try copying the car and track separately and try the server in between so we can see which the problem is?
Checksum is normally car - but mines untouched from the download and is the same 3.03 as on the website.
Unless it's somehow the track - I have the OSRW files in mine but am not using them for the server. So as they aren't being called they shouldn't be the issue.

Can I just check you tried different cars when joining the server? Or always the same one?
I love Zandvoort for certain car classes and really want to know what the issue is so we can fix it...

I think that Beemers brakes faded somehow...is that even possible?
I think it simulates ABS with boiled fluid - that seems to be the problem in the Mercedes as the ABS is great for a few hard stops and then the car just doesn't slow down :D
I managed to clobber Stefan after slowing to compare car pace with his Ford when braking hard at my normal spot and the car just said **** you and ploughed through my normal turn in point and into him! ;D

I'm thinking of giving the Ford a slight power increase but otherwise think they're all matched now, certainly in lap times as on both tracks I was within 10th's regardless of car after the same setup time.

I had a cracking race with Matteo and Fabri before their tires gave up (I said they would :P ) and then a good scrap with Stefan until I made my mistake/cooked my brakes.

Well done on the win Stefan :)


Title: Re: UKAC Season 16 - Zandvoort - Nov 11
Post by: Bob on November 11, 2020, 09:47:26 PM +0000
Just a mention, when the race started I was dumped to the desktop, had to rejoin smartish, same thing happened at nurburgring, so I did a clean install of AC to make sure. Dont think its my end.


Title: Re: UKAC Season 16 - Zandvoort - Nov 11
Post by: KDiesel on November 11, 2020, 09:49:22 PM +0000



I think that Beemers brakes faded somehow...is that even possible?
I think it simulates ABS with boiled fluid - that seems to be the problem in the Mercedes as the ABS is great for a few hard stops and then the car just doesn't slow down :D
I managed to clobber Stefan after slowing to compare car pace with his Ford when braking hard at my normal spot and the car just said **** you and ploughed through my normal turn in point and into him! ;D



My BMW said exact same words...but in german. :)


Title: Re: UKAC Season 16 - Zandvoort - Nov 11
Post by: Fabri Fibra on November 11, 2020, 10:58:02 PM +0000
I was a little un-focused tonight, but still a fun race with several battles. In the second part of the race I finished my tyres and I also spun two times.  :angel:

I had a bit of troubles to find a decent setup here.

Good win, Stefan!


Title: Re: UKAC Season 16 - Zandvoort - Nov 11
Post by: SRW on November 11, 2020, 11:30:24 PM +0000
still no joy.

i just tried changing my Sunday server file to the dtm car/track combo and got the same checksum error

This is just weird - Matteo got in after I sent him my track and car files.
If I stick the server back in practice mode and send you the link, can you try copying the car and track separately and try the server in between so we can see which the problem is?
Checksum is normally car - but mines untouched from the download and is the same 3.03 as on the website.
Unless it's somehow the track - I have the OSRW files in mine but am not using them for the server. So as they aren't being called they shouldn't be the issue.

Can I just check you tried different cars when joining the server? Or always the same one?
I love Zandvoort for certain car classes and really want to know what the issue is so we can fix it...

I tried the Sierra and the BMW.

FYI - i do not have the OSRW files in my AC folder. I have replied to your message


Title: Re: UKAC Season 16 - Zandvoort - Nov 11
Post by: Manteos on November 12, 2020, 11:36:01 AM +0000
Maybe I'm just stating something wrong, but if I was able to get in the server it's probably because Tim and other drivers on srouk have a different file from the original in game.

My reasoning is this. I had an almost fresh install of AC. I just dragged Sierras cars folder form the link provided by Tim (Race Department) into the cars folder. Provided that me and Tim both downloaded the same cars form his link of post 1, Sierras shouldn't be the issue. So the issue was probably related to BMW, Alfa or Merc, or, alternatively, to the Zandvoort track, of which Tim uploaded aswell his folder.
That must have been a different file inside one of that folders. Did you have some race with DTM mod in the recent past messing around with files?
It's really weird, cause I erased the Alfa, BMW, Merc and Zandvoort folders and run the integrity check, that should have re-installed the original files. So, maybe, I'm wondering if it's something related to a race that you had in the past here on SROUK.  ???

I'll do this test: I will delete one folder at a time, then run the integrity check to let the game re-install the original files, and see which folder creates this issue. Please leave your server up for a few hours on Zandvoort. Thank you :)

Did the test, and the trouble is surely related to the folder Ks_zandvoort.

I deleted the track folder sent by Tim and run the integrity check. After re-running AC, I received again the message PROBLEMS DURING CHECKSUM.

So, I guess that if you delete the folder ks_zandvort from the server installation, and then you do an integrity check on your server installation, all the drivers that yesterday managed to join the race would not be able to join the server again, and will receive the same message.


Title: Re: UKAC Season 16 - Zandvoort - Nov 11
Post by: IbnSolmyr on November 12, 2020, 01:09:55 PM +0000
Just got in the server (1st time) and that was fine.

Just a hop in my foolish head, but if ever Manteos is in the right direction, couldn't the problem be related with one of those suspect mods which want to overwrite some files when installing despite never installed it before ? Then if we all installed it yet, due to a previous series for example, and Manteos wasn't there at the time, we all of us might have those corrupted files apart from him and a few other guys only ?  :eek: :cursing: :surrender:


Title: Re: UKAC Season 16 - Zandvoort - Nov 11
Post by: FullMetalGasket on November 12, 2020, 04:22:10 PM +0000
I'm thinking it's the track - the 3 Kunos cars are stock and freshly installed (I re-installed AC about 2 weeks ago), plus no-one had issues with them last week - additionally the Sierra only puts files into its' own folder in the cars directory so hasn't changed anything elsewhere in the game.

But we did run the TCR series at Zandvoort using the OSRW layout a few years back hence myself still having those files (And probably the other guys who could get in) to put back into the new install.
Following the links it's the V1.16 file on RD so I'll see what files are in there and delete them from my pc and see what happens...

If it turns out to be that, then I'd like to re-run this race to test we now know what the issue is - we'll still do the GPL67 race I suggested next week, and then re-run Zandvoort the week after (A chance to try another car for us all ;) )

If the problem is the track then I'm happy we have a working DTM championship ready to roll once I've picked a track list :)


Title: Re: UKAC Season 16 - Zandvoort - Nov 11
Post by: FullMetalGasket on November 12, 2020, 05:01:01 PM +0000
Found the issue - it's the track file.
Even though the OSRW version isn't called up, it seems that server manager somehow includes it when generating the files that live on the server.
When I remove the OSRW files I can't join, and get an unusual checksum error before the track can even load - put them back and it loads straight onto the server.

Offline it doesn't matter which files are in my Zandvoort folder as it just loads..

We'll re-try in 2 weeks then. I'm going to see if the track loads for people who have the OSRW files if I generate the server files without those present.
There's actually a chance it will, so that will be my preference if so as it saves downloading the track addon for everyone.

I'll test that idea over the weekend...


Title: Re: UKAC Season 16 - Zandvoort - Nov 11
Post by: KDiesel on November 12, 2020, 05:23:26 PM +0000
Found the issue - it's the track file.
Even though the OSRW version isn't called up, it seems that server manager somehow includes it when generating the files that live on the server.
When I remove the OSRW files I can't join, and get an unusual checksum error before the track can even load - put them back and it loads straight onto the server.

Offline it doesn't matter which files are in my Zandvoort folder as it just loads..

We'll re-try in 2 weeks then. I'm going to see if the track loads for people who have the OSRW files if I generate the server files without those present.
There's actually a chance it will, so that will be my preference if so as it saves downloading the track addon for everyone.

I'll test that idea over the weekend...

Do we really need to do re-run, you have found problem and thats it? Personally I'm bored with this combo, it's in public servers all time anyway....test race in some fast or slow track is more helpfull than do this again.


Title: Re: UKAC Season 16 - Zandvoort - Nov 11
Post by: FullMetalGasket on November 12, 2020, 06:02:50 PM +0000
EA constantly publish utter **** because they only test it on their own machines and still release before it's ready.
So yes - proving we've fixed a problem that can affect ALL Srou races at Zandvoort is worthwhile


Title: Re: UKAC Season 16 - Zandvoort - Nov 11
Post by: Stefan aka Postal on November 19, 2020, 11:22:05 AM +0000
Well at least we have had some good action here:

https://youtu.be/DlSaPJbnt-0 (https://youtu.be/DlSaPJbnt-0)


Title: Re: UKAC Season 16 - Zandvoort - Nov 11
Post by: Mark J on November 19, 2020, 11:56:02 AM +0000
great video Stefan, love these cars, cool racing  8)