Title: RRE Season 7 (2020) Race Room Touring Classics+P964 - Sonoma Raceway - Nov 26 Post by: phspok on November 21, 2020, 12:31:36 PM +0000 (https://www.supercars.net/blog/wp-content/uploads/2016/03/1975_BMW_35CSLIMSA1.jpg)
Password: see above (#post_event_password) (2) Driver lists can be found on the championship standings page (https://www.simracing.org.uk/smf/index.php?action=LM2R;group=1182) Practice: 19:45 BST (30 mins) Qual 2: 20:15 (15 mins) Race: 20:30 ~ 30 Mins Cars allowed: Touring Classics + Porsche 964 (Carrera Cup Classic) Track: Sonoma IRL Time of Day Setting: 13:00 Weather: Dry Start: Standing Tyre wear: Normal Fuel consumption: Normal Pit-stops: None required Server: Simracing.org.uk E7 Password: see above (#post_event_password) Championship Standings (https://www.simracing.org.uk/smf/index.php?action=LM2R&group=1182&theme=4) Notes: (1) It's best if all drivers can make sure they are connected before the Qualifying session as drivers on track during qualifying will not see cars that join after they are on track until they go back to the garage. (2) Please make sure you are fully aware of the SimRacing.org.uk Rules (https://www.simracing.org.uk/index.php?pid=7) especially the rules about in-game chat messages. (3) You will need to install Race Room Racing Experience from Steam, and have the Euro and American Track Packs for this series (And maybe another non pack track occasionally) (4) Please exercise caution when pitting as some tracks have a speed limit. (5) Please follow the SROUK guidelines for using kerbs etc. Please keep 2 wheels on the track surface (kerbs do not count as track surface) Excessive cutting of corners will seen as cheating and the results may be altered to reflect this. Title: Re: RRE Season 7 (2020) Race Room Touring Classics+P964 - Sonoma Raceway - Nov 26 Post by: phspok on November 22, 2020, 09:48:47 AM +0000 We are using a different layout than usual for this one. Make sure you do a few laps before race night
as the hairpins at the final corner and half way round are quite different. Particularly the final corner which has no obvious markers. Title: Re: RRE Season 7 (2020) Race Room Touring Classics+P964 - Sonoma Raceway - Nov 26 Post by: azaris on November 24, 2020, 06:23:04 PM +0000 Can we use a better layout?
Title: Re: RRE Season 7 (2020) Race Room Touring Classics+P964 - Sonoma Raceway - Nov 26 Post by: Glenn Richardson on November 26, 2020, 09:41:40 PM +0000 I thought the BMW might have done well on a twisty course like this but it was a real struggle. I spent the first half of practice facing backwards as throttle, brakes, gearshifts, steering inputs, kerbs, Thursdays and light breezes all seemed to cause the BMW to spin, I spent the second half of the session driving a tricycle four seconds off the pace having softened the rear to the extent the inside front wheel was well off the ground in the corners. Having qualified three seconds off the pace I thought I was going to do well not to get lapped by Geoff.
Well done Geoff on a dominant win and to Toni for a strong second. The BMW didn't have the pace to challenge here and kept overheating resulting in short shifting the entire race, third onwards was simply who could make the fewest mistakes, I spun early on having sent it passed Birger into the chicane. Pete and Frex had a couple of spins gifting me the places back before I was able to latch onto Birger again and make the pass, he had good pace and kept the pressure on. An oversteery moment when shifting up into second on worn tyres allowed Birger back through teeing up a great battle over the last couple of laps. On the last lap Birger covered the inside on the brakes into the chicane so I went full send again on the outside this time, I turned in without giving room causing a half spin for both of us so apologies Birger - great race though and well earned podium finish! Title: Re: RRE Season 7 (2020) Race Room Touring Classics+P964 - Sonoma Raceway - Nov 26 Post by: BiriBiri on November 26, 2020, 09:51:21 PM +0000 Mixed feelings about this one.
Again at the start a car who was sleeping ;D , the just avoided the crash of Pete and Toni, and took 3th place. Surprisingly i could semi follow Toni at 2sec. Off course i came under pressure from behind. Glenn tried to overtook me at the chicane, i left a car width room but Glen steered to hard and spinned, Pete that was behind spinned also to avoid Glen. So still in third. after 10 min i made a small mistake up the mountain and Pete was again directly behind me. Again at the chicane: now i missed my braking point and braked then too hard for too long so i had understeer and missed the chicane. Due to my mistake i think Pete was surprised and spinned also. So still in third. Then for the next 15min fight with Glen, with overtake's at the midway hairpin and the chicane. With 3/4 laps to go Glen was sligtly ahead (3sec) and i thought P3 was gone. Up to Glen made a mistake somewhere and i was again third with the final lap to go and Glenn just behind me. Had a good first and second sector but forgot to tab the brakes in the esses's therefore Glen was again behind me but blocked. I defended the final chicane but braked too early Glen came from the outside i remained on the inside and we touched each other, with a spin for Glen. I waited up to Glen was again in the right direction but Glen braked also so finished third. Watched the replay and just before turn-in to the chicane Glen was for 90% ahead of me. So i should braked more and sticked my nose on the inside. Sorry :-[ Happy with a penalty and Glen takes third. Otherwise great race for me, didn't expect such a good drive. Congrats to Geoff Title: Re: RRE Season 7 (2020) Race Room Touring Classics+P964 - Sonoma Raceway - Nov 26 Post by: BiriBiri on November 26, 2020, 09:58:53 PM +0000 I was able to latch onto Birger again and make the pass, he had good pace and kept the pressure on. An oversteery moment when shifting up into second on worn tyres allowed Birger back through teeing up a great battle over the last couple of laps. On the last lap Birger covered the inside on the brakes into the chicane so I went full send again on the outside this time, I turned in without giving room causing a half spin for both of us so apologies Birger - great race though and well earned podium finish! Thx, but was also my mistake. Braked too early so you passed me for 90%. But then i realized i was braking too early stopped braking and rebraked and was pushing my nose next to you. So was appropriate to not give me room you passed me already before turn-in, was under pressure last sector at the last lap. Still learning, happy i'm now improving my skills up to the main pack. Title: Re: RRE Season 7 (2020) Race Room Touring Classics+P964 - Sonoma Raceway - Nov 26 Post by: azaris on November 27, 2020, 09:37:53 AM +0000 Didn't really get to grips with this weird layout. Luckily the Nissan seemed to be a bit op here. Had a small collision with Pete in T1 when we both attempted to take the inside, sorry about that. Geoff quickly vanished into the distance in a class of his own while I waited for the challenge from behind that never came. Congrats Geoff and Birger.
Title: Re: RRE Season 7 (2020) Race Room Touring Classics+P964 - Sonoma Raceway - Nov 26 Post by: Geoffers on November 27, 2020, 12:47:33 PM +0000 Appears that the Nissan was the car to have here, when I thought it would have been the ideal track for the little BMW. I really think that the physics of these cars is now all wrong & it was much better before RRE overhauled it.
Anyway, to the race. Initially struggled with the Nissan, but some setup changes made it easier to drive & I found the laptimes were better if I didn't push too hard. A couple of areas needed a bit of care, the uphill approach to T2, it was easy to lose the rear changing down & at the RHer T4 the car was prone to taking to two wheels & rolling if you drove over the kerb. But other than that I quite got to enjoy the car around this layout & was able to put in some good laps early on & build a lead then not have to push too hard when the tyres were past their best later in the race. Quite a satisfying drive if not the most exciting of races. Congrats to Toni & Birger on the all Nissan podium. :clap: :clap: Title: Re: RRE Season 7 (2020) Race Room Touring Classics+P964 - Sonoma Raceway - Nov 26 Post by: phspok on November 28, 2020, 12:03:01 PM +0000 I second Geoff's assessment of the cars. I used to really enjoy these cars and the DTM95 ones
but now they have ruined them for me. They drive like they are on ancient crossplies and rather than grip...grip...grip....slide they just grip a bit, slide slide slide. Seriously unrealistic for the car type, and the race tyres they use. This is the reason I included the old Pork as a "sometimes" more drivable alternative. I will do the usual vote for the next series soon, so the more recent members can have their say. I set this layout because we have used other Sonoma layouts to death in the past, and this layout seemed to provide a decent change from the norm. The only part of the track that I found annoying was the last hairpin as there were no good visual clues. and you had to do a lot of laps to find the right braking point. Strangely, I can drive these easier with my old G25 in Southport, when I go to my place with the Thrustmaster I fall off all over the place. I had trouble with the throttle pot, took it off and cleaned it, but when I put it back together the pot was not quite the same position, and even now after moving it, all the pedals have some travel left before they hit the stops. I have tried using a cal tool, but I can't get them right. I really don't like this Tmaster it is bigger, and a lot more expensive, but I just can't get on with it. Little front drive car at Aragon next. I have not done a single lap there so far........ Title: Re: RRE Season 7 (2020) Race Room Touring Classics+P964 - Sonoma Raceway - Nov 26 Post by: Wiltshire Tony on November 29, 2020, 11:13:22 AM +0000 It's donation time again Guy's ::)
In these difficult times please give whatever you can afford, and we will continue to provide you with some excellent sim racing :thumbup1: Title: Re: RRE Season 7 (2020) Race Room Touring Classics+P964 - Sonoma Raceway - Nov 26 Post by: BillThomas on November 30, 2020, 03:41:44 PM +0000 Little front drive car at Aragon next. I have not done a single lap there so far........ :o ::) ??? :helpsmilie: :surrender: Title: Re: RRE Season 7 (2020) Race Room Touring Classics+P964 - Sonoma Raceway - Nov 26 Post by: phspok on November 30, 2020, 04:59:56 PM +0000 But I will ::)
Title: Re: RRE Season 7 (2020) Race Room Touring Classics+P964 - Sonoma Raceway - Nov 26 Post by: spanner on December 02, 2020, 06:46:17 PM +0000 Is there not a race on this Thursday? (3rd)
I wont be able to attend but thought strange I couldn't see what was running Title: Re: RRE Season 7 (2020) Race Room Touring Classics+P964 - Sonoma Raceway - Nov 26 Post by: phspok on December 02, 2020, 07:50:49 PM +0000 There is, I just missed linking the page. :hang: :hang:
Ta for the heads up |