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Practice: 20:00 (30 mins)
Qual: 20:30 (15 mins)
Races: 20:45 (3 x 7 laps)


Cars allowed: CUPRA LEON E-RACER

Time of Day Setting: 13:00
Weather: Dry

Start: Standing start
Tyre wear: Normal
Fuel consumption: Normal
Pit-stops: none required

Notes:
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Excessive cutting of corners will seen as cheating and the results may be altered to reflect this.

I am planning on using these cars for a series in 2021. However after doing some research it turns out that this car has been released on raceroom half finished. In its current guise it runs out of battery power after about 12 minutes. I have read that they are working on updating it with different engine maps that will increase the battery life. I have decided to hold off doing a series until the car has been updated. This fun race is just so that we can all get a taste of the car! i have done a few laps in it, it takes a few laps to get used to getting a feel for what speed you are doing as you dont have different gears as a reference.

Lot of info here about the E-Racer.

https://forum.sector3studios.com/index.php?threads/cupra-e-racer.15786/

I guess the timetrials don't need regen but thought there was an official series going on with these?

I have done a few practice laps in these cars. There is no reduction in power as the battery gets towards empty, you get full power right up until it gets to 0%, then it just cuts out

Count me in, strange to do some e-racing

RRE this Sunday with our first experience of Electric power!

Practice server is up. My original plan was to run the races to laps rather than a time limit, but seems this is not possible on the RRE server :(
So the races will be 9 mins + 120 seconds which should enable everybody to finish without running out of battery.

there is an option to disable the fuel/battery use so we could run with unlimited battery capacity but i prefer as much realism as possible. so we will have to put up with this setup until RRE get there act together and add engine mapping to the car!

Indeed, no also first practice with the e-racer. Without battery it isn't e-riding, regen at the good moments (some formule-e scenario's maybe). Nissan's like in Mexico (xxxxx (ed) one more lap because leader just passed the finish line with only some seconds on the timer  ;D ;D ;D)

Note: Certain swear words are not allowed in these forums, accidently or otherwise  :nono:

Merry Christmas everyone  ;D

Sorry, but was not really swearing. Only in the form of being surprised when driving the last lap and another lap has been added. Sorry i understand won't happen again

Merry Christmas and a Happy New Year to all participants!  :D

I presume 9mins + 120s = 11 mins. Anyway just tried a test race set at 11 mins (7 laps) & regen at 15% & ran out of battery power just coming out of the final turn & coasted across the line. So maybe a little less aggression on the throttle early in the race will be needed, or just go for it & hope!

Noob here, so how does regen affect the battery life and car handling? More regen I guess gives more battery life but what's the cost? Are there multiple separate settings here for brake regen/coasting etc?

Regen can be set up to 15%. I have it on max the whole time as the battery life is so short

With 9min racing, i have constant 30% battery life on the finish (2min i think is for ending the race after the first is on the finish). Another 2 min i think is better.

Second question wath is the difference between S and D. Just like in a normal road car Sport and Drive (so a little bit of engine mapping?)

My car just wan't to turn in on slow tight corners  ??? ?

see ya

Guys, read the info I linked to in reply #2 of this thread.

Bit puzzled by your 30% battery life Birger, I only have 26% at the race start!  ???

Try softening the front suspension (ARB & springs) & stiffening the rear to help it turn better. Still understeers quite a bit though. Car also has TC so use that to induce some oversteer possibly.

Maybe i have miscalculated. I will have a play before the race if i get a chance

Thats mentioned in the Sector 3 Forums page for the car. 'D' will just use up the battery with NO regen. 'S' will do some level of regen. Net tried it yet. Sounds like you need to map more keys!

Thx, sorry didn't do RTFM (Read the tuuuuut (Martin  ;) ) Manual).


When leaving the pits i'm at 100%, maybe different HUD?


Thx, but already did that (i'm carefull with the TC, spinning is more time loss than going a little bit wide).

Regen level can be set in the setup pages before you go out on track. Not sure if you can map keys to it

I think "fine" is the word you are looking for Birger  ::)

 ;D


With 11min at the timer i'm also struggling (without regen i come 3 to 10% too short). With regen its fun, constant looking where can i coast or not, when will i attack.

Just resetting the server now, had internet probs. Please do not broadcast the passwords for all to see

server is now up, i have set the third race to 8 mins so if we have probs in the first two the third should be a proper run to the finish!

Very late joining tonight, PC seemed very slow & it was a real struggle to get RRE to run & to join the server. Odd because it ran fine this afternoon & it seems fine again now. ???

So racing was not too brilliant, particularly as my car did not want to get off the line like everyone else's. This afternoon when trying the car I found it got away best if you waited until the lights went green & then stepped on the throttle, sitting there with foot on throttle gave a 1s lag before the car moved. Tonight what ever way I tried there was a lag before anything happened, sure it was my PC causing it, hope I was not lagging during the race, no one said anything so hope it was OK!

Anyway, congrats to Glenn, much faster than the rest of us.  :notworthy: :clap:

Nope, you had no lag. Same thing on my side during the training single events with the AI drivers, Start everyone starting except me starting 1 sec later.

Just before the event i made some practice starts, every time restarting the race at T1 (because i was frustrated at the AI drivers). Then i found it don't select S to start, but D and you have a good start. I think the save energy modus is preventing a good start.


From my side mixed feeling, didn't had 1 lap speed, but in race i didn't make a lot of mistakes and catched the crashed/spinned cars. In the second race i was in the lead but then off course i make mistakes. Didn't had any problems with energy first two races finished with +/- 20% energy. Last race i switched between D and S and had 7% left.

But is there a difference between S (0% regen) and D? With D the battery life is reducing more quickely but i didn't noticed it in lap time.

Also struggling with the braking points  ;D if i swith all the time from energy mode  ;D. First race some wheel banging towards T1 but in the replay everything was okay. 

Congrats towards Glenn, and merry Christmas, stay safe!

Thanks Stephen for putting another event on and Merry Christmas everyone!

I got poor starts in races 1 & 2 but cottoned on to Birger's brilliant starts for race 3 and launched in 'D' which did the trick. Apologies for becoming an obstacle in race 2, I caught the kerb heavy at the fast right hander launching me onto two wheels and then a big slide. Birger had to take to the grass to avoid me and I kept tripping Mark and Geoff up parking the car on every apex - the only way I could get any speed out of the car was to stop on every apex, turn the car and then punch out in a straight line.

Electric motorsport doesn't do a lot for me, aside from the noise, power delivery and going up and down the gears my driving style doesn't really work well with these cars. I like the rear of the car to be very loose on corner entry and do a lot of the steering which is why I prefer lower downforce such as WTCR/GT4 etc. rather than DTM and am completely inept in anything mid or rear engined. To get a laptime out of these I was having to scrub so much speed off and take a tight line to be able to keep the throttle pinned on exit as they are quite understeery.

Well that was strange generally. The car dynamically is a pig; in the slow stuff especially and tends to understeer too much so i couldnt work out if its FWD or RWD! I didnt like that i couldnt change gear and just gripped the wheel tighter to stop myself. Not sure there is a way to change the car drastically too much, never did get the fronts working. Seemed to get a good start in Race 1, in S and pressing throttle when green but it didnt seem to work in the next two, just sitting there a a few secs before moving.

Was strange how some people were really slow some laps but then would go alot quicker a few laps later, maybe it was just from offs.

Something didnt seem right when i was leaving the pits with 100% charge yet Pete was only getting 26%? Yet seemingly we both lasted the same distance?

Tbh, i'm not sure about these in the future. Only seem to be limited to 9min races, car is not nice to drive. These definately are below the GT4's for me.

How do you get 100% I started with 26%. Do you get a full charge with a pit stop?

Apart from the funny initial battery level I found that the Regen % wasn't consistently 13% when loading the car. I had 9, 12 and 13% and I checked I had no buttons set to change it.

Agree with Spanner these were horrid to drive. For the 2nd race I softened the front and raised the rear and all the car did then was plough straight on under braking. Where was my expected oversteer? I quit out after 2 laps and wished I could save the disk space these are wasting on my computer.

Turn the TC down, then they oversteer, but not in a nice way. They still understeer until the point the rear loses traction in a big way, not unrecoverable but still a big time loser.

I do agree that they are not a fun car to drive.

I prefer these to the GT4's (well the BMW anyway). but I agree you had to slow your corner entry speed down quite a lot to stop the oversteer.

@spanner - the devs have said that they are going to introduce engine maps at some point which will enable you to make the battery last longer.

@Picnic, not sure what happened about your battery power, every time I left the pitlane I had 100% capacity. I was using up about 14% capacity per lap. I am surprised you managed much more than one lap? how much battery were you using per lap?

I was thinking of using these for a series when we get the engine maps and we can have longer races. In the meantime we will be doing a series using the new DTM2020 cars starting in January

As one of those with the 26% power, I was using 3-4% per lap.

Maybe worth noting that the tyre modelling for these cars has changed in yesterday's update.

Like Geoff I was using 3-4% per lap however in practice I managed only 5 and half laps before the battery ran out.

I sort of liked them, though they handled like a pork with extra concrete in the back
I started with 26% every time using 3-4% per lap, and ran out of electrons and their friends in the last corner.

With the new update some cars received now also engine mapping (pity we just raced them this sunday). Now more possibilities for different strategies. New electric car also the VW IDR. For me more fun and more stable (however also the VW is understeery at corner exit). 

Cool, I will have a play with the maps over christmas. Might start the series later in January

Any results available for this event? (& the AC race at Spa)

I can't do the results until the cars are added to our system, The event is set as a "fun" race, so I think the
event will go away after a while. I don't do AC results, though I think I did once.

I have asked Dave to add these and the VW Idr

Results Done

Dave says he has added both milk floats  :D