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Track: Monza '88 GP

Practice: ~19:20 (60 mins)
Qualifying: 20:20 (20 mins)
Race: 20:40 (22 laps)

Time of Day Setting: 14:00
Start: STANDING
Tyre wear: Normal
Fuel consumption: Normal
Pit stops required: NO

Server: simracing.org.uk Monday
Password: see above (#post_event_password)

Notes:
(1) It's best if all drivers can make sure they are connected before the Qualifying session as drivers on track during qualifying will not see cars that join after they are on track until they go back to the garage.
(2) Please make sure you are fully aware of the SimRacing.org.uk Rules.
(3) The AI control should be turned off so that you have control of the car at all times, including pitting. Your player file should therefore read
Autopit="0"
Force Autopit Off="1" // Forces autopit always off
No AI Control="1" // AI never has control over car
If you still finding pitting problematic, experience tells us that its less to do with positioning and more to do with approach speed. A slow approach to pit crew chief has proved most reliable.

Special Notes: None

CAR OWNERS

#14 - WT
#328 - Ziu Bacubacu
#48 - SpecialKS
#51 - Geoffers
#15 - AndyL
#133 - Daz9
#4 - Dimitar Dulichki
#92 - Evil Clive
#320 - phspok
#53 - Erling G-P
#103 - seniordan
#233 - roguk

#48 for me please, Tony. Thxs.

Done

#51 please Tony.

Done

Car 133 please Tony.

#15 please, Tony.

Done

Done

#4 for me, please.

Done

Totally baffled of Toddington here  ???

I have spent the last hour trying to get the Scirroco Cup series to run. I also set up the Aussie Touring cars at the same time in dedicated installs of GTL.

The Aussie series worked first time and no issues. I can join the server and run the cars.

Same process for installing Scirroco. But once I get past the GTL video splash ....and get to select Practice or Multiplayer.....CTD. Reloaded/re-installed 3 times, same result.

I even copied the working Aussie install into the Scirroco folder and then replaced the Game Data folder with the download........same result  ???

Clueless of Cleethorpes.


UPDATE:-
re-installed for a 4th time and it works. If the definition of madness is doing the same thing over and over , expecting a different outcome................................?????

Can I have 320 please

I created a new install, copied the d/l and unzipped it, copied the XD 4meg patch TG100 and ran it
it works

Car 92 please Tony.

Done

How did you join the Weds server Clive?

Done

UKGTL now has two GTL installs which can run simultaneously, so you can practice online whenever you want.

It's always worth running a trace https://www.simracing.org.uk/smf/index.php?topic=13381.msg241379#msg241379 if unexpected errors occur. Pm me the results and I will try to provide you with an answer.

Eye candy from the Mod creators https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ggodd_XFq50

Nice. :)

I meant, how did Clive join the server when it doesn't have the car on it??

I had successfully installed the Aussie Touring cars ( on the Wed Server ), which was why I was so bemused by the failure of the Scirroco d/load to work.

#53 please Tony

That was a video an old friend of myself, Geoffers and anyone else from NG put together....Malcolm Reynolds

I wonder sometimes what happened to the old names.

Done

Cuts will be turned off for this race but please do not take liberties as the cut police will be reviewing (and awarding penalties) after the race, for constant offenders.

Two wheels on racing tarmac at all times please.

They regain their sanity

BTW, you could message him. https://www.simracing.org.uk/smf/index.php?action=profile;u=1440;sa=summary

Car #103 please, Tony

Done

Hi Tony car 233 please

Done

Looking forward to the start of Scirocco Cup tonight but also to other events of this season. The programme is very attractive. Top job Tony!

Cheers, Dan

Thanks Dan, it's truly appreciated.

Results and replay now posted.

It was nice racing last night.

I was quick in Practice session but with fuel for half the race distance so i knew it won't be easy on qualifying. And this was the case, i started from P4 but just 2 tents behind the pole sitter.

The start was good as i was able to avoid Ziu and overtake him. After that we started good battle with Geoff and Dan. Little by little i started to be slower than Geoffers, Daz and Ziu and had to drive in P4 after Dan made a mistake on turn 1.

I wanted to stay in the battle for at least podium but the guys in front of me were in a different league that evening.

Congrats to Daz for the win and to Geoff and Ziu for their podiums.

Race replay with camera and commentary: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oM0VJKaZ7x8

Good race, quite enjoy these as they are FWD.

Was surprised by the laptimes in practice as I had only just got into the 2.06s in testing, so I was quite pleased to do a low 2.06 in qually for 3rd on the grid.

In the race it took me a few laps to really get a good pace & after dicing with DD & Dan at the beginning I was able to ease away & chase Daz. The gap between us didn't really change for much of the race, some laps Daz was quicker, some laps I was quicker, I think both of us found it difficult to be consistent, a small mistake at one of the chicanes easily lost you half a second. In the second half of the race Ziu had recovered from a bad start to get into 3rd place & tenth by tenth was gaining on me & it was only a few really good laps near the end that stopped him from catching me. Also gained a bit on Daz near the end but without a serious mistake from him it was unlikely I would catch him. All in all happy with 2nd on a track with so many damn chicanes.

Congrats to Daz & Ziu.  :clap: :clap:

I am not sure how many I need to apologise to for the Lap 1 T1 fracas. I have not looked at a replay and I do not know who it was yet.

I did try and warn you a week ago that I am now using a race rig with "H" pattern shifter. It does not excuse bad driving, but I simply missed a downshift and nudged the car ahead as everything slowed for the chicane. I think there was a knock-on effect with several cars suffering  :(.

I waited for cars to pass me before picking up the pace again around Curve Grande.

Despite a lot of pre race practice I was struggling in the early laps to find any consistent pace with small mistakes costing me half seconds. TBH I was not expecting to be anywhere near the front runners as I get used to a seat that is not on castors and a different gearchange. That is a lot for my small brain to cope with.

I need to investigate the brake pedal parameters in the Logitech Profiler because everyone else in the race used half the braking distance that I found that I needed!! Plus, it was very noticeable at the chicane before Lesmo 1, that when I lifted OFF the brake pedal the front wheels remained locked up and the car would just understeer into the gravel ??  :-\ To overcome that problem I had to start braking before the bridge and slow the car to almost a crawl to get it turned in.
I had a similar issue with Parabolica and I was braking from BEFORE the 200mtr board to have any chance of turning into that corner.
As the race progressed and the fuel load came down ( plus I was getting into a rhythm with the H shift ) I gradually reduced the braking distance by about 25%, but it was very much "on the limit".
In the last 5 laps I found some pace and started to post some more respectable lap times.

As regards the brake pedal I would appreciate some feedback from you guys about what I noticed at the end of the race.
After crossing the line I slowed the car down and dropped the shifter down to 1st, then into neutral. Normally any car I have previously used in GTL will simply roll forward when in neutral for quite a distance. But at Monza last night, when in Neutral it simply stopped as if the brakes were being applied?? I actually repeated the move a couple of times just to be sure I was not imagining things, but each time was the same. This might be the Profiler settings actually not reducing the BRAKE pedal to zero upon release, but I don't think I have experienced that before.
Anyway that is my excuse for not winning!...I drove the whole race with the handbrake on  :P

 

Clive your problem with pedal brake could be the potentiometer. Go in the controls sheet of GTL and watch if the brake progress work just when push pedal, if no you need clean the potentiometer. I replaced potentiometer of accelerator because flickers, i try to  clean it before but not has been useful so i replaced.

Clive,
         Did you accidentally check the "combined pedals" box instead of  separate pedals. in the control centre or in game?

Result (https://www.avonrise.co.uk/srou/kurts/_2021//04012021_Monza88)

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Thanks Kurt  :thumbup1:

I have just watched Dimitar's video of the Scirroco race and it sort of confirms that I had a problem.

It is very obvious that he is braking at around the 100mtr board and in the same corners I had to brake at the 200mtr board to have any chance of keeping control of the car and actually turning in to the corner. Last night, if I waited until the 100mtr board my car would have just gone straight to the gravel trap with the front tyres smoking, without even attempting a turn in.
It could have been my setup, but Geoffers was decent enough to share his setup with me,  so it had to be something else. I don't claim to be as fast as Geoffers, but I would like to think that I can use the same brakes to slow a car down in the same distance in a straight line?

So I have reviewed the Logitech Profile and that all seems OK, checked the settings within GTL and found that today I needed to allocate/re-configure the controls??. Then I tried a few laps offline at Monza88 with the same setup as I used last night and focusing purely on the braking distances. If I applied the brakes at the 200mtr board I could get the car to a complete stop 50mts before the corner, just as well that it was offline as it was almost embarrassing  ::) more like Mr Molehusband ( those of you of a certain age will remember Reginald Molehusband!) :-\. The 100mtr board was definitely the point at which the anchors should be applied.

So it appears that something was awry but it is not permanent fortunately and all seems good now.

Driven these way back when, so had a setup knocking around to work with thankfully. Not done this version of Monza before though, and like Geoff found the incessant chicanery a bit of a pest. Unlike Geoffers however, I don't get on with FWD very well, so having front row pace in quali was a surprise, last gasp taking of pole even more so. Monza and Imola are normally bogey tracks for me in all honesty....

Race was OK, I had qualified on race fuel, so knew I could be quite quick from the start, but didn't know what the car would do when light and worn tires. Made a decent jump off the line for a change, and kept first place from Dimitar initially, then Geoffers. Just crept away a touch as the guys behind were arguing over 2nd, 3rd and 4th for a few laps before it settled down. As Geoffers said, as the race went on, we both kept making little errors, mostly on the same laps, so the gap I had pulled remained for the most part. But it was all a little bit inconsistent, and just felt a bit weird to be honest. Watching the replay from the server it does show some of the strange stuff I could feel going on. In Parabolica for instance, just about every lap sees me lay big dark lines, but not straight around, they have a big jump in the curve. That adds to the feel I had of the throttle feeling like an On/Off switch at that point around the track, it was all or nothing. Added to which, my car is quite jumpy for all of the replay, I am wondering if I had some kind of internet issue going on that was affecting the communication to the game in some way.

It was getting harder to keep the pace towards the end of the race, tire wear I am guessing, but I knew I had enough of a gap once we were down to around 4 laps left if I kept it on the island as Geoff had also just lost a little pace and was not easily closing in. Was very surprised and relieved to take the flag ahead of Mr. FWD......

Grats to all, and I agree this could be a very interesting series, certainly the cars are more forgiving than the R5 Turbos....Hopefully that means the field will remain large and tightly packed.