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Title: UKGTL Season 21 VW Scirocco Cup - Silverstone - Feb 15
Post by: Wiltshire Tony on December 01, 2020, 12:38:26 PM +0000
Championship standings HERE (https://www.simracing.org.uk/smf/index.php?action=LM2R&group=1241&theme=5)

Grid/server capacity: 22

Car/Track download available by pm to WT

Track: Silverstone '75 GP

Practice: ~19:20 (60 mins)
Qualifying: 20:20 (20 mins)
Race: 20:40 (28 laps)

Time of Day Setting: 14:00
Start: STANDING
Tyre wear: Normal
Fuel consumption: Normal
Pit stops required: NO

Server: simracing.org.uk Monday
Password: see above (#post_event_password)

Notes:
(1) It's best if all drivers can make sure they are connected before the Qualifying session as drivers on track during qualifying will not see cars that join after they are on track until they go back to the garage.
(2) Please make sure you are fully aware of the SimRacing.org.uk Rules.
(3) The AI control should be turned off so that you have control of the car at all times, including pitting. Your player file should therefore read
Autopit="0"
Force Autopit Off="1" // Forces autopit always off
No AI Control="1" // AI never has control over car
If you still finding pitting problematic, experience tells us that its less to do with positioning and more to do with approach speed. A slow approach to pit crew chief has proved most reliable.

Special Notes: None


Title: Re: UKGTL Season 21 VW Scirocco Cup - Silverstone - Feb 15
Post by: Wiltshire Tony on February 14, 2021, 11:51:01 AM +0000
 :offtopic:

Anyone able to successfully download a track from Altbierbude?

I just get a blank screen after clicking the track download link.

I'm able to download from Race Department Ok.

Could someone please try for me and report back here?

Thanks in advance.

 :offtopic:


Title: Re: UKGTL Season 21 VW Scirocco Cup - Silverstone - Feb 15
Post by: Erling G-P on February 14, 2021, 12:22:59 PM +0000
:offtopic:

Anyone able to successfully download a track from Altbierbude?

I just get a blank screen after clicking the track download link.

I'm able to download from Race Department Ok.

Could someone please try for me and report back here?

Thanks in advance.

 :offtopic:

Just tried Tony; downloaded without any issues.  Just picked the first track listed; Istanbul.


Title: Re: UKGTL Season 21 VW Scirocco Cup - Silverstone - Feb 15
Post by: Wiltshire Tony on February 14, 2021, 12:26:29 PM +0000
:offtopic:

Anyone able to successfully download a track from Altbierbude?

I just get a blank screen after clicking the track download link.

I'm able to download from Race Department Ok.

Could someone please try for me and report back here?

Thanks in advance.

 :offtopic:

Just tried Tony; downloaded without any issues.  Just picked the first track listed; Istanbul.
Thanks Erling  :thumbup1:


Title: Re: UKGTL Season 21 VW Scirocco Cup - Silverstone - Feb 15
Post by: Wiltshire Tony on February 14, 2021, 12:48:37 PM +0000
Hmm, seems I can download from Altbierbude if I use Firefox but not if use Chrome  :helpsmilie:


Title: Re: UKGTL Season 21 VW Scirocco Cup - Silverstone - Feb 15
Post by: Erling G-P on February 14, 2021, 01:01:23 PM +0000
Hmm, seems I can download from Altbierbude if I use Firefox but not if use Chrome  :helpsmilie:

I use Firefox too.  Don't have Chrome installed, so can't test that one.


Title: Re: UKGTL Season 21 VW Scirocco Cup - Silverstone - Feb 15
Post by: Wiltshire Tony on February 14, 2021, 02:12:48 PM +0000
At some time in the future I'll re-install Chrome. That will probably fix it.


Title: Re: UKGTL Season 21 VW Scirocco Cup - Silverstone - Feb 15
Post by: Dimitar Dulichki on February 14, 2021, 05:55:09 PM +0000
Same here Tony. Only able to download with Mozilla.


Title: Re: UKGTL Season 21 VW Scirocco Cup - Silverstone - Feb 15
Post by: roguk on February 15, 2021, 07:52:38 PM +0000
Hi  sorry will not make race tonight, hope you all have a good race, see you Wednesday.


Title: Re: UKGTL Season 21 VW Scirocco Cup - Silverstone - Feb 15
Post by: misnoimis on February 15, 2021, 09:04:44 PM +0000
A short race for me. I left it a bit late to practice and couldn't find a set up. Decided to go with the default for the race. At the end of qually was just getting the hang of it and felt there were faster laps to come.  Made a cautious start on purpose (not that I was able to go much quicker anyway) thinking I would try to keep in touch and see how things went. Best laid plans and all that. At the end of lap one  I met an upside down (I think) car at the chicane and was unable to avoid it writing off my suspension so my race was over.

Hope all or most enjoyed their race.

Grats winner and podiums. :clap: :clap: :clap:


Title: Re: UKGTL Season 21 VW Scirocco Cup - Silverstone - Feb 15
Post by: Wiltshire Tony on February 15, 2021, 09:48:28 PM +0000
Results and replay now posted.


Title: Re: UKGTL Season 21 VW Scirocco Cup - Silverstone - Feb 15
Post by: Erling G-P on February 16, 2021, 08:29:48 AM +0000
Well known layout of Silverstone, but still found the driving very tricky. It was so easy to overdo it and run wide through the corners.

Race itself largely uneventful. Running 5th at the end of L1, when I slipped unscathed beneath the spectacularly cartwheeling cars of Geoffers & Ziu. Elevated me to 3rd, and the next many laps was spent chasing Dimitar.  More or less kept pace with him; gap around 2 secs; some laps gained a little, others lost a little.  Surprised he could go over the left part of the chicane repeatedly - for me it was pure poison, trying to throw the car out of control, so had to be avoided.  He finally got out of shape though, sliding off and kissing the barrier, sadly ending the chase.  Had a decent gap to the car behind, so no more drama for the remainder of the race.  At one point the otherwise growing gap to Daz in the lead, suddenly dropped by 2 secs.  Smelling blood, I upped the pace, but it was a one-off fluke, as I never got any closer.

Grats to Daz & Matt, commiserations to all the unfortunate ones.


Title: Re: UKGTL Season 21 VW Scirocco Cup - Silverstone - Feb 15
Post by: Geoffers on February 16, 2021, 08:55:39 AM +0000
At the end of lap one  I met an upside down (I think) car at the chicane and was unable to avoid it writing off my suspension so my race was over.

That was probably me Misnoimis, sorry, I should have hit Esc sooner.

Yeh, short race. Tailing Ziu into the chicane at the end of lap 1, he got out of shape over the right kerb which sent him left into the large barrier, bounced back right into my path. It happened so quickly there was nothing I could do to avoid him. Hoped I would be out of the way of the following cars but as I said, I should have hit Esc straight away, so sorry to anyone else who got involved.

Congrats to Daz, Erling & Matt.  :clap: :clap: :clap:


Title: Re: UKGTL Season 21 VW Scirocco Cup - Silverstone - Feb 15
Post by: misnoimis on February 16, 2021, 11:20:30 AM +0000
At the end of lap one  I met an upside down (I think) car at the chicane and was unable to avoid it writing off my suspension so my race was over.

That was probably me Misnoimis, sorry, I should have hit Esc sooner.



No problem, these things happen, always the next race.  :)


Title: Re: UKGTL Season 21 VW Scirocco Cup - Silverstone - Feb 15
Post by: Dimitar Dulichki on February 16, 2021, 11:22:48 AM +0000
Not to much to report here. The car was unpredictable with my setup and easy to make a mistake.

Everything was OK and i was in P2 just slower than Daz but keeping 1.5-2 secs ahead of Erling and them - the car totally lost grip on the final chicane, making a slip and hitting the barriers. After that i totally lost desire to race and this is totally because of the car. I just can't have with this one. After the hit i was slower, maybe because of damage or the tires, but probably to be fair because i lost focus. Matt was going great and was able to overtake me for the podium. I try to stay with him, but he was faster.

Grats to Daz on another win with this car and on braking the curse and to Erling and Matt on their great pace and consistency.

Race replay: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wH-1RGV9yoU


Title: Re: UKGTL Season 21 VW Scirocco Cup - Silverstone - Feb 15
Post by: AndyL on February 16, 2021, 02:10:39 PM +0000
I've been on track with Clive hundreds of times, but very rarely do we spend any time near each other. Here, he passed me off the line into T1, but I was back ahead after T2. Until he crashed out yards before halfway, we were no more than 2 seconds apart. I found that all the left handers were easy, but all the right handers were there to end my race. If I tried to take them with more entrance speed, then my laptimes were slower, so I was determined to go slower to be faster. This was difficult with Clive buzzing around behind. After halfway it was all quiet and I could take care to be smoother and quicker. Early on I felt I might be able to keep up with Matt and Dan who were having a battle, but when Matt got ahead he flew away for a well deserved podium. Erling was strong and consistent as he often seems to be. Congrats to Daz, who cleaned up after Ziu and Geoffers fell early.


Title: Re: UKGTL Season 21 VW Scirocco Cup - Silverstone - Feb 15
Post by: Daz9 on February 16, 2021, 03:28:05 PM +0000
I feel the need to be honest here, and I hope Geoffers will remember this well enough from our NoGrip days.......

I really, really, really do not like FWD race cars, I have always struggled with them, and very rarely actually enjoy driving the flipping things, give me RWD every time......

In saying that, I seem to have found something that works with this car, maybe the fact that it is so nervous helps, I just don't know.

I had done 37s in practise for this, but it was cutting the chicane quite a lot to make that laptime. This did upset the car a lot, and roughly 1 in 3 would involve a visit to the fence. So, went into quali with the race setup which was proving fast and easy to catch here, with the idea of just doing laps to see what I could get with a smooth transition through the chicane and no attacking of the kerbs, to hopefully then give an incident free race. Was happily doing so, but right up until the last lap of quali was down in 5th or 6th, finally nailing a good one at the death to go 2nd. Ziu had done a banzai lap for pole, the only way I could have got anywhere near that was to have taken a really big chance on those kerbs at the chicane...

Knew if I let Ziu get away and he ran at full pace it would be difficult to stay with him, so focused on a good launch. Which in fairness I got for once, and I threw everything I had at making lap 1 as fast as possible with zero errors, which worked a treat. Then I see in my mirrors the crash happening at the chicane, and it gave me the break I needed, without the tow I felt I was going to be hard to catch unless I started throwing it away like at Zandvoort. So, kept it nice and straight, and reeled off the laps in consistent fashion to take the win.

Was a little bit of an anti climax to be honest, as when I practised here I felt the car was very well suited to the track, and it should be a proper race with a lot of cars very close. Quali looked like it would make that happen as well, but it all ended up being a little more spaced out than that. I had envisaged slipstream city here, with cars alongside each other numerous times, shame it went the other way but that's racing I guess.....


Title: Re: UKGTL Season 21 VW Scirocco Cup - Silverstone - Feb 15
Post by: EvilClive on February 16, 2021, 03:45:26 PM +0000
 Andy, you have quicker with these cars all the way through this series and I have been struggling to find any pace. I too am beginning to discover that "slow in and controlled acceleration through the apex", it's seems that my right foot hasn't read the pace notes!!

TBH I was quite surprised to sneak past Andy off the grid, as all of my previous starts in the Scirrocos have been abysmal, but normal service was resumed by T2 and that set the pattern for my race......at least as far as it went!
Yes, I confess that I was hell bent on staying with Andy and I was at my limit throughout my time on track. I did unearth a PB amongst those laps and I did stay within 2 secs of Andy (sometimes a little closer  :o) until ambition exceeded ability, and tyre friction, at the final chicane. I lost the rear end slightly on first turn in, thought I had caught it but my trajectory fired me over the middle element and slightly too far to the left.

The wire mesh fencing was surprisingly solid  :-\ and appeared to suffer zero ill effects, whereas my VW decelerated from max to nothing in the space of 2 metres, trashing the engine and suspension instantly.................................and Andy escaped!!!

Grats to the podium guys and all finishers.



Title: Re: UKGTL Season 21 VW Scirocco Cup - Silverstone - Feb 15
Post by: Geoffers on February 16, 2021, 05:30:43 PM +0000
I feel the need to be honest here, and I hope Geoffers will remember this well enough from our NoGrip days.......

I really, really, really do not like FWD race cars, I have always struggled with them, and very rarely actually enjoy driving the flipping things, give me RWD every time......

No don't remember that at all, never read such a load of old flannel.  :P ;D


Title: Re: UKGTL Season 21 VW Scirocco Cup - Silverstone - Feb 15
Post by: Daz9 on February 16, 2021, 11:03:13 PM +0000
See, I knew I could rely on you and your fantastic memory Geoff.....


Title: Re: UKGTL Season 21 VW Scirocco Cup - Silverstone - Feb 15
Post by: SpecialKS on February 17, 2021, 04:11:46 PM +0000
Sorry - forgot to post the result yesterday  ::)

Result (https://www.avonrise.co.uk/srou/kurts/_2021//15022021_75Silverstone)

8)

Really like the 67 and 75 layouts of Silverstone and - other than most of you - I liked the Scirocco
on this track. Really funny. OK - I was in last place early and due to a shifting mistake I eventually
slaughtered the engine ending in a burning fire, but I was half way able to keep the pace of Clive and Andy.


Title: Re: UKGTL Season 21 VW Scirocco Cup - Silverstone - Feb 15
Post by: Wiltshire Tony on February 17, 2021, 04:41:15 PM +0000
Thanks for the results Kurt :thumbup1:


Title: Re: UKGTL Season 21 VW Scirocco Cup - Silverstone - Feb 15
Post by: Dimitar Dulichki on February 24, 2021, 12:30:54 AM +0000
:offtopic:

Anyone able to successfully download a track from Altbierbude?

I just get a blank screen after clicking the track download link.

I'm able to download from Race Department Ok.

Could someone please try for me and report back here?

Thanks in advance.

 :offtopic:

http://www.festbierbude.de/component/option,com_fireboard/Itemid,99/func,view/catid,43/id,4416/lang,de/#4416


Title: Re: UKGTL Season 21 VW Scirocco Cup - Silverstone - Feb 15
Post by: Wiltshire Tony on February 24, 2021, 10:38:17 AM +0000
Thanks Dimitar, Micha pm'd me yesterday too about this. I have now modified Chrome and was able to download this morning.