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Title: UKGTL Season 21 VW Scirocco Cup - Zolder - Feb 22
Post by: Wiltshire Tony on December 01, 2020, 12:40:06 PM +0000
Championship standings HERE (https://www.simracing.org.uk/smf/index.php?action=LM2R&group=1241&theme=5)

Grid/server capacity: 22

Car/Track download available by pm to WT

Track: Zolder '75 GP

Practice: ~19:20 (60 mins)
Qualifying: 20:20 (20 mins)
Race: 20:40 (28 laps)

Time of Day Setting: 19:00
Start: STANDING
Tyre wear: Normal
Fuel consumption: Normal
Pit stops required: NO

Server: simracing.org.uk Monday
Password: see above (#post_event_password)

Notes:
(1) It's best if all drivers can make sure they are connected before the Qualifying session as drivers on track during qualifying will not see cars that join after they are on track until they go back to the garage.
(2) Please make sure you are fully aware of the SimRacing.org.uk Rules.
(3) The AI control should be turned off so that you have control of the car at all times, including pitting. Your player file should therefore read
Autopit="0"
Force Autopit Off="1" // Forces autopit always off
No AI Control="1" // AI never has control over car
If you still finding pitting problematic, experience tells us that its less to do with positioning and more to do with approach speed. A slow approach to pit crew chief has proved most reliable.

Special Notes: None


Title: Re: UKGTL Season 21 VW Scirocco Cup - Zolder - Feb 22
Post by: Wiltshire Tony on February 08, 2021, 10:33:30 PM +0000
IMPORTANT

Evening race. Get your brighter headlamps here (https://www.simracing.org.uk/smf/index.php?topic=15184.msg277055#msg277055)


Title: Re: UKGTL Season 21 VW Scirocco Cup - Zolder - Feb 22
Post by: misnoimis on February 22, 2021, 08:17:29 PM +0000
Gear shifter problems, will have to give this evening a miss. I hope contact cleaner may fix it. Will try to be ready for next week. :(


Title: Re: UKGTL Season 21 VW Scirocco Cup - Zolder - Feb 22
Post by: AndyL on February 22, 2021, 08:47:20 PM +0000
Disconnect as I joined the grid. This is happening too much now. Seems to be random and nothing that I have experienced until recently, although nothing has changed in my setup.
Good luck to all.


Title: Re: UKGTL Season 21 VW Scirocco Cup - Zolder - Feb 22
Post by: SpecialKS on February 22, 2021, 09:11:04 PM +0000
Not too dissatisfied with my quali time but not prepared for a race in the dark (those who can read are at a clear advantage  ::) :P .
So an early end after damaging suspension.


Title: Re: UKGTL Season 21 VW Scirocco Cup - Zolder - Feb 22
Post by: Wiltshire Tony on February 22, 2021, 09:48:44 PM +0000
Results and replay now posted.


Title: Re: UKGTL Season 21 VW Scirocco Cup - Zolder - Feb 22
Post by: Dimitar Dulichki on February 22, 2021, 10:09:01 PM +0000
Same as Kurt said. I totally forgot about the night race. Fortunately it wasn't a big problem as i was able quickly to switch on to the new conditions. But hope i will be more careful next time.


Title: Re: UKGTL Season 21 VW Scirocco Cup - Zolder - Feb 22
Post by: Geoffers on February 23, 2021, 11:42:12 AM +0000
All I can say is this race was up to my usual standard of late, in other words rubbish. Far too many mistakes, collision with Daz at T1 lap1, sorry Daz, then rolling the car twice & finally getting an S/G on the final lap.  ::)

Congrats to DD, Daz & Erling.  :clap: :clap: :clap:


Title: Re: UKGTL Season 21 VW Scirocco Cup - Zolder - Feb 22
Post by: seniordan on February 23, 2021, 01:22:02 PM +0000
Andy,
         Maybe your discoes are caused buy many of us repeatedly jumping from garage to track in order to get a 100%engine health. Best wait till the last 2 secs before the start countdown and maybe the jumping in and out should be banned if that proves to be the reason.


Title: Re: UKGTL Season 21 VW Scirocco Cup - Zolder - Feb 22
Post by: Wiltshire Tony on February 23, 2021, 02:04:21 PM +0000
Andy,
         Maybe your discoes are caused buy many of us repeatedly jumping from garage to track in order to get a 100%engine health. Best wait till the last 2 secs before the start countdown and maybe the jumping in and out should be banned if that proves to be the reason.
I can set the server so that everyone starts at 100% if that helps?


Title: Re: UKGTL Season 21 VW Scirocco Cup - Zolder - Feb 22
Post by: Wiltshire Tony on February 23, 2021, 02:05:51 PM +0000
All I can say is this race was up to my usual standard of late, in other words rubbish. Far too many mistakes, collision with Daz at T1 lap1, sorry Daz, then rolling the car twice & finally getting an S/G on the final lap.  ::)
I thought it was Ziu who you collided with, I could be wrong tho.


Title: Re: UKGTL Season 21 VW Scirocco Cup - Zolder - Feb 22
Post by: Dimitar Dulichki on February 23, 2021, 02:36:42 PM +0000
I was very lucky that night.

But i had a lot of problems during the qualy. I was just unable to make clean lap and had to start from P5, limiting my hopes for the win. I think i was able to make a lap with 5-6 tents faster, but twice the chicane ruined my lap and i made more attempts ruined by mistakes in other places.

But i had that feeling that i still have a chance even for the win. I don't know why but i was feeling it.

I was very surprised to out power Erling on the start and take P4 and after that Geoff collided with someone and i was now in P3 just behind Daz and Ziu.

I was the best viewer of their battle, watching from the first row. And unfortunately at the beginning of lap 3 they collided and it was me in P1 now. I couldn't believe my luck there.

After that i was able to extend the lead to Dan and Erling but at the middle of the race my front tires started to make me big problems and i started to lose more than half a second to Daz who was climbing quickly.

Fortunately for me i survive few scary moments, most of them on the chicane with the high kerbs, and i grab the win.

Grats to Daz and Erling on their podiums.

Race replay with camera and commentary: https://youtu.be/E3v-q0Ii6_0


Title: Re: UKGTL Season 21 VW Scirocco Cup - Zolder - Feb 22
Post by: Geoffers on February 23, 2021, 02:46:46 PM +0000
All I can say is this race was up to my usual standard of late, in other words rubbish. Far too many mistakes, collision with Daz at T1 lap1, sorry Daz, then rolling the car twice & finally getting an S/G on the final lap.  ::)
I thought it was Ziu who you collided with, I could be wrong tho.

No Ziu was ahead of us, I'm sure it was Daz. Ziu & Daz had a collision later on I think.


Title: Re: UKGTL Season 21 VW Scirocco Cup - Zolder - Feb 22
Post by: AndyL on February 23, 2021, 03:10:44 PM +0000
Andy,
         Maybe your discoes are caused buy many of us repeatedly jumping from garage to track in order to get a 100%engine health. Best wait till the last 2 secs before the start countdown and maybe the jumping in and out should be banned if that proves to be the reason.

I don't think it's that, Dan. I did join the grid with a few seconds left, but disappeared with 2 seconds left according to Dimitar's video. From my perspective, I was in my car on the grid, but no other cars were there. I disco'd near the end of the (long) first laps at the Xmas Special and the Scirocco Nurby, then twice in qualy at Goodwood BSCC. This disco at the grid is new to me. It seems random, but more discos in two months than my previous entire online history. My setup hasn't changed. Disappointing as I had good pace which was quite stable. Maybe I would have died at T1, though...

One thing I notice occasionally offline (and it was the case here at Zolder 75)... when I go to the grid I am not immediately in the car. The screen does a slow walk back from the start line to my car before I can get in. I don't know if it does that online (it didn't seem to do so here) and if so then I need to join the grid early to walk to the car before the countdown starts.

It looked like quite an incident filled race. Grats to Dimitar and all who managed to reach the end.


Title: Re: UKGTL Season 21 VW Scirocco Cup - Zolder - Feb 22
Post by: SpecialKS on February 23, 2021, 03:47:20 PM +0000
Result (https://www.avonrise.co.uk/srou/kurts/_2021//22022021_75Zolder)

8)

What happened to Dan (DQ) ?


Title: Re: UKGTL Season 21 VW Scirocco Cup - Zolder - Feb 22
Post by: Erling G-P on February 23, 2021, 06:33:05 PM +0000
Very hard and intense race from start to finish.

Going online and seeing the posted laptimes, I briefly held lofty delusions about possibly being contender for pole.  Bah#1; as usual Ziu was sandbagging, and did a laptime in qual I could not hope to match, despite a new pb. Well at least I was 2nd on the grid.  Bah#2; in the dying moments, both Geoffers & Daz felt the need for delivering a reality check, posting quicker times.

Relatively bad start went to worse at T1, where I got trapped by a wayward Geoffers. Couldn't avoid hitting both him & the barrier, fearing for my headlights, but luckily they survived.  Down to 7th though. Arrived at the back chicane ahead of Matt, but had to take avoidance for an early braking Clive. Went over the grass, earning a warning, despite losing a position to Matt.  He got past Clive, but then went off in spectacular fashion next lap. Daz & Ziu going off gained me two places.  Battled Clive for what felt like an eternity without finding a way past, but in reality it was only a couple of laps, before he most graciously let me past.

Spent the next many laps hunting down Dan, in a sort of deja-vu from last week, albeit in a very different setting. Dicing with Dan after catching up seemed to lose me time, as the gap behind was shrinking.  Dan too waved me past eventually - very kind of you guys and definitely not callled for.  Despite now having a free run, the gap behind continued dropping.  It was my now regular nemesis Daz, chasing me down.  In one lap, I knocked 0.6 secs off my fastest lap, but still lost 0.1 sec.  How could I hope to keep up that performance..  When he got closer, Roger losing it in front of me momentarily broke my rhythm and basically sealed it.  Was determined not to be a pushover, but next lap Daz just drove past as if I wasn't even there..  :censored:

Tried to keep some pressure on him, but had no answer to his pace, especially not on badly worn tyres, and thus had to settle for 3rd.

Grats to Dimitar & Daz, commiserations to everyone meeting misfortune.


Title: Re: UKGTL Season 21 VW Scirocco Cup - Zolder - Feb 22
Post by: roguk on February 23, 2021, 08:22:02 PM +0000
A strange race for me, had lots of stutter, my fps is normally high but last night in some places it was very low making control poor and led to offs which should not have happened  also when Erling came to lap me i slowed down and moved to the left grass verge only to find the car shot across to the right verge Sorry Erling. Prob should have discoed earlier in race.

Grats to Dimitar on win

Grats to Podium, Daz and Erling


Title: Re: UKGTL Season 21 VW Scirocco Cup - Zolder - Feb 22
Post by: Erling G-P on February 24, 2021, 08:03:41 AM +0000
A strange race for me, had lots of stutter, my fps is normally high but last night in some places it was very low making control poor and led to offs which should not have happened  also when Erling came to lap me i slowed down and moved to the left grass verge only to find the car shot across to the right verge Sorry Erling. Prob should have discoed earlier in race.

Grats to Dimitar on win

Grats to Podium, Daz and Erling

No worries Roger, Mr Daz would have gotten me anyway I'm sure  ;)

With regards to graphics, I had to change my settings for this one, as the headlights gave a massive drop to the frame rate.  Normally I run with Supersampling as AA method, as that's what looks best.  It removes all line shimmer, but with cost of a massive drop in frame rate.  However, in daylight it normally is above 100 fps anyway, so fast enough - no need for the 300-400 fps it can reach without it.  On nighttime Zolder however, it dropped to 25 fps in places, so had to deselect it to get a smooth experience.   AA method is selected in the control panel for the graphics drivers.


Title: Re: UKGTL Season 21 VW Scirocco Cup - Zolder - Feb 22
Post by: EvilClive on February 24, 2021, 09:42:51 AM +0000
Grats to those who were on the podium and to all of you who have a handle on how to drive these cars.

Sorry to see Andy get disco'd from the grid. I was a couple of rows back and saw him arrive and depart the grid. I find it interesting that several people have experienced graphic/connection glitches recently. Reassuring to know that I am not alone, but I wonder if has any relation to a recent Win10 update which was around the time my problems started?? There appears to have been a small Nvidia driver change within that update???

This Scirroco season has been a nightmare for me, with a string of DNF's from races where I was so far behind it would be tomorrow if I reached the flag.

I can make the excuse that I am getting to grips with my H shifter, and that has undoubtedly had an impact on my pace and mistake quotient across all my simracing. Slowly, I am reducing the number of missed/incorrect gearchanges and now mistakes usually happen when I am in close combat and at the limits of my ability. This is not ideal and has resulted in a few embarrassing incidents and apologies to other drivers.

I realised a few weeks ago that I was still expecting to be as quick ( or slow??) as I was pre H shift. This was clearly totally unrealistic and I should have used my head and not my right foot. A change of focus was needed, so I have adopted a "get to the flag" strategy. That was why I waved Erling and others past when they were clearly quicker than I was. Battling them was likely to end my race prematurely.

 Finally completing a race in these cars was a triumph for me and the bonus was that I was actually getting slightly quicker as the race progressed, despite worn tyres. So maybe I was getting a handle on the car and the shifter. As usual with any new car series, I finally get some perspective just as we run out of races  :-\.
 


Title: Re: UKGTL Season 21 VW Scirocco Cup - Zolder - Feb 22
Post by: Wiltshire Tony on February 24, 2021, 10:47:55 AM +0000
Result (https://www.avonrise.co.uk/srou/kurts/_2021//22022021_75Zolder)

8)

What happened to Dan (DQ) ?
Thanks for the results Kurt  :thumbup1:

I think Dan said that he was DQ'd as he failed to do a stop/go for cuts.


Title: Re: UKGTL Season 21 VW Scirocco Cup - Zolder - Feb 22
Post by: Geoffers on February 24, 2021, 11:50:05 AM +0000
I find it interesting that several people have experienced graphic/connection glitches recently. Reassuring to know that I am not alone, but I wonder if has any relation to a recent Win10 update which was around the time my problems started?? There appears to have been a small Nvidia driver change within that update???
 

My problems at Goodwood with the game freezing & my PC restarting was the same day as I had a Win10 update, so I am pretty sure it was related, however since then it has not recurred so fingers crossed it was just a glitch as the update was configuring itself. I do though often get momentary freezes of the game & this has been happening for some time, not really too much of an issue as it usually happens shortly after I have started the game, both online & offline. I am sure it is GTL related as it happens on all my installs of GTL but does not happen at all in RaceRoom or Assetto Corsa, but I have no idea what is causing it.


Title: Re: UKGTL Season 21 VW Scirocco Cup - Zolder - Feb 22
Post by: Wiltshire Tony on February 24, 2021, 11:52:58 AM +0000
One thing I notice occasionally offline (and it was the case here at Zolder 75)... when I go to the grid I am not immediately in the car. The screen does a slow walk back from the start line to my car before I can get in. I don't know if it does that online (it didn't seem to do so here) and if so then I need to join the grid early to walk to the car before the countdown starts.
The grid walkthrough should happen when offline (at some tracks) but not when racing online.


Title: Re: UKGTL Season 21 VW Scirocco Cup - Zolder - Feb 22
Post by: Daz9 on February 24, 2021, 12:36:15 PM +0000
Totally forgot it was going to be a night race and had done no practise in those conditions.....

But quali should have been fine, daylight etc....nope, was getting very annoyed with myself at my inability to nail the lap, had gone quite well offline so knew there was some pace there as Ziu had shown. Eventually as a total last gasp effort (a favourite tactic normally anyway for me but this time was just because I was being crap) I managed to pull a better lap together to move towards the front. I had blown laps that were a good deal quicker though, much like Dimitar to be fair after watching his video, so knew there was good race pace if I could avoid being a plonker.

Decent start, then Geoffers had a small moment into turn 1 with some contact for us, but remarkably my car didn't go sideways or fly off the road. Held 2nd place, and chased after Ziu, catching and passing him early on lap 2, but he then surprised me into the hairpin later in the lap with some late braking, small contact but all good. We go into turn 1 of lap 3 quite close, I felt I had braked in the normal spot, but these cars didn't seem to light up the brake lights very well for me and I am not sure I saw any from Ziu at all. So his car reversed towards me at a high rate, his brakes are better than mine for sure. I tried to miss him down the inside, but just ended up hitting him at an angle instead of straight in the back. So we both fly off the road, gifting Dimitar the lead, and I thought at the time it would be his race to lose now. I have hit Ziu, so have to hold my hand up for that, apologies Ziu as it has taken you out of the race which I think you would have been very strong in.

Allowed him past when we rejoined, but he had a little moment a couple of laps later that let me through. I then chased through the pack, keeping my eye on the gap to Dimitar. It had started at around 23 seconds, but was coming down a little. Each place to take on track cost a little bit of laptime, even Erling despite his statement to the contrary  ;). The gap had started to close more rapidly as the race went on, but whilst I had more pace, I didn't have enough laps left, and Dimitar took a well deserved victory. I was happy to have made him work for it a little though ;D.


Title: Re: UKGTL Season 21 VW Scirocco Cup - Zolder - Feb 22
Post by: roguk on February 24, 2021, 01:24:44 PM +0000
Thanks for reply and info Erling.