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Title: UKGTL Season 21 1964 British Saloon Car Champ. - Snetterton - Jan 13
Post by: Wiltshire Tony on December 03, 2020, 11:09:14 AM +0000
Championship standings HERE (https://www.simracing.org.uk/smf/index.php?action=LM2R&group=683&theme=5)

Grid/server capacity: 22

Car/Track download available by pm to WT

International Daily Mirror Trophy
All Classes

Track: Snetterton 1964

Car restrictions: Drivers are limited to a maximum number of drives per Class. For more information please click HERE (https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1CVTeIB0vHbw3q_Z_y4ArWjB-FmBoY7rB-lQDJYOWEro/edit?usp=sharing)

Practice: ~19:20 (60 mins)
Qualifying: 20:20 (20 mins) Drivers must not leave qualifying to change car make.
Race: 20:40 (30 laps)

Time of Day Setting: 14:00
Start: STANDING
Tyre wear: Normal
Fuel consumption: Normal

Server: simracing.org.uk Wednesday
Password: see above (#post_event_password)

Notes:
(1) It's best if all drivers can make sure they are connected before the Qualifying session as drivers on track during qualifying will not see cars that join after they are on track until they go back to the garage.
(2) Please make sure you are fully aware of the SimRacing.org.uk Rules.
(3) The AI control should be turned off so that you have control of the car at all times, including pitting. Your player file should therefore read
Autopit="0"
Force Autopit Off="1" // Forces autopit always off
No AI Control="1" // AI never has control over car
If you still finding pitting problematic, experience tells us that its less to do with positioning and more to do with approach speed. A slow approach to pit crew chief has proved most reliable.

Special Notes: There are no start lights. Suggest the start countdown feature be turned on.


Title: Re: UKGTL Season 21 1964 British Saloon Car Champ. - Snetterton - Jan 13
Post by: Wiltshire Tony on January 12, 2021, 10:30:11 AM +0000
We are trying to recreate the scoring used in the 1964 BSCC. This means that points are scored for finishing class positions but not for overall final race position. Points are 10, 8, 6, 5, 4, 3, 2, and 1.



Title: Re: UKGTL Season 21 1964 British Saloon Car Champ. - Snetterton - Jan 13
Post by: SpecialKS on January 13, 2021, 07:53:31 PM +0000
I'm a bit confused - Minis and Cortinas are the stock ones as they were not included in the download ?


Title: Re: UKGTL Season 21 1964 British Saloon Car Champ. - Snetterton - Jan 13
Post by: Wiltshire Tony on January 13, 2021, 08:19:37 PM +0000
I'm a bit confused - Minis and Cortinas are the stock ones as they were not included in the download ?
correct


Title: Re: UKGTL Season 21 1964 British Saloon Car Champ. - Snetterton - Jan 13
Post by: seniordan on January 13, 2021, 09:29:24 PM +0000
Daz and Geoffers, I watched the replay several times but I can't decide if it was my mistake or a racing incident. Apologies anyway and please shed your light on it
If it was my fault the game gods punished me with an exploding engine some laps later after a very entertaining battle with Fulvio. Thanks for that Fulvio.
Great series this is going to be.
Dan


Title: Re: UKGTL Season 21 1964 British Saloon Car Champ. - Snetterton - Jan 13
Post by: roguk on January 13, 2021, 09:31:56 PM +0000
Bad night for me constant flickering, lap 26 could not see Matts car just a tag with name, tried to follow Hiristo but car locked up and off. see you all next week.


Title: Re: UKGTL Season 21 1964 British Saloon Car Champ. - Snetterton - Jan 13
Post by: Wiltshire Tony on January 13, 2021, 09:38:29 PM +0000
Rog, when you lapped me your ping was absolutely normal and no flickering at all.


Title: Re: UKGTL Season 21 1964 British Saloon Car Champ. - Snetterton - Jan 13
Post by: roguk on January 13, 2021, 10:02:37 PM +0000
Hi Tony   just one of those things, in garage the menus also were flickering and could not type in there had to chat in pit box .

Grats to Hristo on win

Grats to Podium


Title: Re: UKGTL Season 21 1964 British Saloon Car Champ. - Snetterton - Jan 13
Post by: Wiltshire Tony on January 13, 2021, 10:10:30 PM +0000
Hi Tony   just one of those things, in garage the menus also were flickering and could not type in there had to chat in pit box .

Grats to Hristo on win

Grats to Podium
That sounds like you had a conflict with another car type. It may never happen again.


Title: Re: UKGTL Season 21 1964 British Saloon Car Champ. - Snetterton - Jan 13
Post by: Wiltshire Tony on January 13, 2021, 10:11:59 PM +0000
Results and replay now posted.

A few teething troubles with the scoring system but nothing as bad as it could have been  :sweatdrop:

BTW most races in this series allow all classes. But Crystal Palace has one race for Class A cars only. Make sure you have a car reserved for this event.


Title: Re: UKGTL Season 21 1964 British Saloon Car Champ. - Snetterton - Jan 13
Post by: Geoffers on January 13, 2021, 11:44:34 PM +0000
Daz and Geoffers, I watched the replay several times but I can't decide if it was my mistake or a racing incident. Apologies anyway and please shed your light on it

Sent you a PM Dan.


Not a good night. First I had a similar problem to the Xmas race, the cars did not show up when joining the server, only cars selectable were GTC76 default ones. I was using the same GTL install I used for that race so thinking that was a coincidence I installed the cars in a different GTL install & it worked. So something is clearly wrong with that other install, will have to delete it & create a new one.

The race started badly with an incident at T1 which dropped me to the tail of the field. Gradually passed all the slower cars & caught up with the battle between Erling & Micha. Took a couple of laps to find a way past only to have a 3s game freeze moments later  ::) sorry guys. A couple of corners later I went up the bank & stalled the car losing around 20s. With only a few laps left there was no chance of catching back up, so came home a distant 7th.

Congrats to Hristo on the win & to Paddler, Micha & Matt on the class wins.  :clap: :clap: :clap:


Title: Re: UKGTL Season 21 1964 British Saloon Car Champ. - Snetterton - Jan 13
Post by: phspok on January 14, 2021, 09:09:01 AM +0000
Quite enjoyed that, though it got a bit lonely at times.
I tried a few cars, but liked the Mini here, I thought it would do the fast turns better than the Anglebox
but surprisingly it was actually a bit faster on the straights.

Managed to pull out a lead over Ziu, then was so busy watching the Battling Bulgarians when they lapped me
I forgot to brake for the hairpin, and went straight on into the farmyard....which let Ziu in front.
Managed to get back on track and then slowly caught and passed Ziu (not often I get the say that  ::) )
then held a few seconds lead up to the finish.

I added these cars to my main, mostly standard install. (new system, some newish installs) and I saw no issues
at all. No invisible cars, or anyone in the pace car etc.


Title: Re: UKGTL Season 21 1964 British Saloon Car Champ. - Snetterton - Jan 13
Post by: Dimitar Dulichki on January 14, 2021, 10:36:28 AM +0000
This time i just gonna let the video speak for it self. Amazing battle with Hristo. Unfortunately it had to end at some point.

Grats to Hristo, Andy and Paddler.

https://youtu.be/laQjw7ED2_I


Title: Re: UKGTL Season 21 1964 British Saloon Car Champ. - Snetterton - Jan 13
Post by: Wiltshire Tony on January 14, 2021, 10:38:20 AM +0000
Can I ask driver's to remember to keep online chat to a minimum during Qualy and Race please.


Title: Re: UKGTL Season 21 1964 British Saloon Car Champ. - Snetterton - Jan 13
Post by: misnoimis on January 14, 2021, 11:54:32 AM +0000
For my second comeback race of the new SROUK GTL Season at 64 Snetterton I chose the Anglia. Probably the slowest car to drive for me being the slowest driver but good practice. I once owed an Anglia that was prepared (almost) for racing. I also drove round Snetterton in about 1964. Strangely I cant recall the circuit at all well and don't remember the bridge. It was only one lap.

I decided to hang back at the start, get into the race and see how things went. My main aim was to finish the race and see what lap time I could achieve.

For the first couple of laps I was just behind Eifelblitz until at the sharp right-hand corner at the end of the long straight I managed to mess up my gear change, changing from fourth to third and then to fourth (instead of second) I managed to replicate this again later at the same corner. I got round the corner safely but instead of being in E's boot I was about fifty yards behind by the time I got back up to speed. I put in a few steady laps the came across E again picking up speed. I guess he had had a moment. For a few laps I was on his tail, at times trying to work out where I might pass him but also at times wondering if I could keep up with him. Unfortunately the fun ended when he went a bit wide, hit a bank and decided to perform aerobatics. I just managed to miss him when he landed but I think I actually ducked.

The rest of the race was lonely. Tony was too fast and too far ahead of me and it seemed every time I was on my fastest lap I had to slow to let Falcons past, then Jags and then Alfa's. I did manage to keep on the track and not hit anything and I think my pace was a little better than my previous race so if this rate of progress continues by the end of the year....

As there is no Golf to play or practice for, no Classic Car Meets or Runs, Meetings or Events to go to, Restaurants or Pubs to visit during lockdown it occurs to me I could do a little GTL practice.

Grats to winner and podiums and all. BTW I really like the 1964 TC and VW Sirocco formats. :thumbup1:


Title: Re: UKGTL Season 21 1964 British Saloon Car Champ. - Snetterton - Jan 13
Post by: Wiltshire Tony on January 14, 2021, 12:08:08 PM +0000
I also drove round Snetterton in about 1964. Strangely I cant recall the circuit at all well and don't remember the bridge.

BTW I really like the 1964 TC and VW Sirocco formats. :thumbup1:

Thanks Mike, hope you also enjoy the rest of our offerings...

Here's what the track author says

This is the early to mid 60's version of the track. It is a combination of the track from those years. Some of the bridges may or may not have been there around this time, but I really like driving under the esses one so it is there! You can always go around the outside of the bridge and not hit it if you overcook it into the esses, there is a little surprise waiting there too if you look closely, and as Keeper says....kill da wabbit,kill da wabbit! . I have gone to a 3x2x3 to keep it historically correct instead of the 4x3x4 grid due to room on the grid and to make online starts easier.


Title: Re: UKGTL Season 21 1964 British Saloon Car Champ. - Snetterton - Jan 13
Post by: Geoffers on January 14, 2021, 01:24:35 PM +0000
This film from 1958 shows there was no bridge at the Esses (about 30s).

https://youtu.be/2EBW98z-qUg



Title: Re: UKGTL Season 21 1964 British Saloon Car Champ. - Snetterton - Jan 13
Post by: Wiltshire Tony on January 14, 2021, 02:42:53 PM +0000
This film from 1958 shows there was no bridge at the Esses (about 30s).

https://youtu.be/2EBW98z-qUg


Nice video Geoffers, thanks for posting  :thumbup1:


Title: Re: UKGTL Season 21 1964 British Saloon Car Champ. - Snetterton - Jan 13
Post by: Geoffers on January 14, 2021, 03:25:56 PM +0000
Another one from 1966, showing that the Russells chicane had been added before the S/F straight.

https://reuters.screenocean.com/record/635656


Title: Re: UKGTL Season 21 1964 British Saloon Car Champ. - Snetterton - Jan 13
Post by: SpecialKS on January 14, 2021, 03:40:28 PM +0000
Result (https://www.avonrise.co.uk/srou/kurts/_2021//13012021_Snetterton)

8)


Title: Re: UKGTL Season 21 1964 British Saloon Car Champ. - Snetterton - Jan 13
Post by: SpecialKS on January 14, 2021, 03:43:29 PM +0000
Another one from 1966, showing that the Russells chicane had been added before the S/F straight.

https://reuters.screenocean.com/record/635656

Great drivers, great cars !  :thumbup1:


Title: Re: UKGTL Season 21 1964 British Saloon Car Champ. - Snetterton - Jan 13
Post by: Ziu Bacubacu on January 14, 2021, 03:44:49 PM +0000
Managed to get back on track and then slowly caught and passed Ziu (not often I get the say that  ::) )
then held a few seconds lead up to the finish.

And i believe you pass me ..... you gave me turtles in rabbit costume. You held best rabbits only for you. How much rabbits you sticked in your engine ? Have courage to say me  :lol:


Title: Re: UKGTL Season 21 1964 British Saloon Car Champ. - Snetterton - Jan 13
Post by: SpecialKS on January 14, 2021, 03:48:47 PM +0000
This film from 1958 shows there was no bridge at the Esses (about 30s).

https://youtu.be/2EBW98z-qUg



nig is working on the A30/A35 for GTL


Title: Re: UKGTL Season 21 1964 British Saloon Car Champ. - Snetterton - Jan 13
Post by: Wiltshire Tony on January 14, 2021, 03:51:18 PM +0000
Result (https://www.avonrise.co.uk/srou/kurts/_2021//13012021_Snetterton)

8)
Thanks Kurt  :thumbup1:


Title: Re: UKGTL Season 21 1964 British Saloon Car Champ. - Snetterton - Jan 13
Post by: phspok on January 14, 2021, 06:00:13 PM +0000
I have 12 new rabbits, err no, there's 24 now, oh, now there's 48.......................


Title: Re: UKGTL Season 21 1964 British Saloon Car Champ. - Snetterton - Jan 13
Post by: misnoimis on January 14, 2021, 07:39:30 PM +0000
Some great films of Snetterton in the 50's and 60's. I have just watched a few more. Some faces I recognise from a previous life. That explains the bridge, I thought my memory was cracking up. ::)


Title: Re: UKGTL Season 21 1964 British Saloon Car Champ. - Snetterton - Jan 13
Post by: Erling G-P on January 14, 2021, 10:59:34 PM +0000
Disappointing race.  The Jag or Falcon seemed the obvious choices for the track, but the scoring system with only class points awarded, makes a tactical car choice tempting.  However, with no class free of alien infestations, it didn't matter much, so stuck with my original preference, the Jag.  Probably stupid, given it seemed to have attracted the highest concentration of extraterrestrials.

Got a good start, getting ahead of several faster drivers, leading the class briefly. Unteneable position of course, and one by one the aliens caught up and passed, pushing me further and further down the order. While this took place, I had an almost race long battle with Micha not far behind.  He got real close and personal, when I made a mistake due to tyre wear.  Eventually a much delayed Geoffers showed up and passed like the others.  Right after and approaching the bend before the bridge, he suffered a massive freeze. No time to react, I went straight through his car, with no ill effect, apart from the fact that it completely threw me. Missed the line and had to brake right down, letting both Micha and a continuing Geoffers past.  Geoffers then crashed a couple of corners later, giving me back that position, but with only a few laps left and on worn tyres, I could do nothing about Micha. Not that it mattered, as we were in different classes, but you still want to be ahead, racer's instinct n'all y'know...  ;)

Grats to the various class winners and podiums.