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Title: UKGTL Season 21 1964 British Saloon Car Champ. - Aintree - Apr 14
Post by: Wiltshire Tony on December 03, 2020, 11:36:43 AM +0000
Championship standings HERE (https://www.simracing.org.uk/smf/index.php?action=LM2R&group=683&theme=5)

Grid/server capacity: 22

Car/Track download available by pm to WT

Aintree International 200 Meeting
All Classes

Track: Aintree

Car restrictions: Drivers are limited to a maximum number of drives per Class. For more information please click HERE (https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1CVTeIB0vHbw3q_Z_y4ArWjB-FmBoY7rB-lQDJYOWEro/edit?usp=sharing)

RACE ONE
Practice: ~19:20 (60 mins)
Qualifying: 20:20 (10 mins) Drivers must not leave qualifying to change car make.
Race: 20:30 (10 laps)

RACE TWO
Practice/Car change: ~20:50 (5 mins)
Qualifying: 20:55 (10 mins) Drivers must not leave qualifying to change car make.
Race: 21:05 (10 laps)

Time of Day Setting: 14:00
Start: STANDING
Tyre wear: Normal
Fuel consumption: Normal

Server: simracing.org.uk Wednesday
Password: see above (#post_event_password)

Notes:
(1) It's best if all drivers can make sure they are connected before the Qualifying session as drivers on track during qualifying will not see cars that join after they are on track until they go back to the garage.
(2) Please make sure you are fully aware of the SimRacing.org.uk Rules.
(3) The AI control should be turned off so that you have control of the car at all times, including pitting. Your player file should therefore read
Autopit="0"
Force Autopit Off="1" // Forces autopit always off
No AI Control="1" // AI never has control over car
If you still finding pitting problematic, experience tells us that its less to do with positioning and more to do with approach speed. A slow approach to pit crew chief has proved most reliable.

Special Notes: Cars at the front of the grid may not see the start lights. Suggest that the start countdown feature is turned on.


Title: Re: UKGTL Season 21 1964 British Saloon Car Champ. - Aintree - Apr 14
Post by: Wiltshire Tony on April 14, 2021, 10:28:02 PM +0100
Results and replays now posted.

Can everyone please read this https://www.simracing.org.uk/smf/index.php?topic=25101.msg483851#msg483851


Title: Re: UKGTL Season 21 1964 British Saloon Car Champ. - Aintree - Apr 14
Post by: SpecialKS on April 15, 2021, 07:01:42 AM +0100
Am I right that only players are affected by the mismatch issue who use Nappe's series on the same install like the "normal" stuff?
I use a separate install for the NoGrip-Legacy series and don't have any problems.


Title: Re: UKGTL Season 21 1964 British Saloon Car Champ. - Aintree - Apr 14
Post by: EvilClive on April 15, 2021, 09:58:52 AM +0100
A shame about the multiple mis-match messages, it kind of took the edge off the evening's fun  :-\.

Quite enjoyed these tin tops and the different performance classes, despite a couple of dumb mistakes on my part. Biggest question was the fuel consumption/estimate. I used the Anglia in race 1 and the Lotus Cortina in Race 2, both set for 11 laps...... and both cars finished with enough fuel for a further 8 laps???
I will claim that I was giving myself a ballast handicap to give you all a chance.................. ::)


Title: Re: UKGTL Season 21 1964 British Saloon Car Champ. - Aintree - Apr 14
Post by: Wiltshire Tony on April 15, 2021, 10:34:33 AM +0100
Am I right that only players are affected by the mismatch issue who use Nappe's series on the same install like the "normal" stuff?
I use a separate install for the NoGrip-Legacy series and don't have any problems.
That's my impression. And now that Lasse has issued a fix it may no longer be a problem. Wouldn't happen at all if drivers had separate installs for each series  ::)


Title: Re: UKGTL Season 21 1964 British Saloon Car Champ. - Aintree - Apr 14
Post by: Daz9 on April 15, 2021, 11:02:06 AM +0100
I have everything in one and I had no issues.....


Title: Re: UKGTL Season 21 1964 British Saloon Car Champ. - Aintree - Apr 14
Post by: Wiltshire Tony on April 15, 2021, 11:04:29 AM +0100
I have everything in one and I had no issues.....
Which blows my theory out of the water.............. ???

EDIT: Unless you installed Lasse's latest patch before last night's race?


Title: Re: UKGTL Season 21 1964 British Saloon Car Champ. - Aintree - Apr 14
Post by: phspok on April 15, 2021, 12:59:12 PM +0100
I have a new install for NoGrip now, but I might have installed a previous zip onto one of my other installs
in the past. All I saw last night was mismatches with Robbie, but I was not looking that hard.
DD suffered with it in R1, then H got the bug in R2 I think... I was getting some mismatches at IMola for NG
but I don't know if that was me or not.

Good racing at Aintree  ;D was actually staying in front of Geoffers for a couple of laps in R1, then lost it
and fell back to 3rd, and although I was slowly catching Fulvio, I had an incident with a lappee which knocked me
back a bit, but I doubt I could have caught in time anyway.

race two was more dicing with Fulvio, this time I stayed on track, pulled out a small lead and managed to hang on
even with Fulvio doing some faster laps at times. managed to lap without any contact this time, so thanks
to anyone I worried with a desperate pass for staying on line


Title: Re: UKGTL Season 21 1964 British Saloon Car Champ. - Aintree - Apr 14
Post by: Dimitar Dulichki on April 15, 2021, 02:28:18 PM +0100
Am I right that only players are affected by the mismatch issue who use Nappe's series on the same install like the "normal" stuff?
I use a separate install for the NoGrip-Legacy series and don't have any problems.

Same as Kurt here. I send the file to Manfred and Micha and their mismatches were over.


Title: Re: UKGTL Season 21 1964 British Saloon Car Champ. - Aintree - Apr 14
Post by: Daz9 on April 15, 2021, 04:23:13 PM +0100
I have everything in one and I had no issues.....
Which blows my theory out of the water.............. ???

EDIT: Unless you installed Lasse's latest patch before last night's race?

I think I did the patch first, I will check later as to what time I downloaded it......

I've never had separate installs for as long as I have been playing the game, I'm just not professional enough at this stuff  ;)


Title: Re: UKGTL Season 21 1964 British Saloon Car Champ. - Aintree - Apr 14
Post by: SpecialKS on April 15, 2021, 04:47:23 PM +0100
Result_Race1 (https://www.avonrise.co.uk/srou/kurts/_2021//14042021_Aintree_R1)

Result_Race2 (https://www.avonrise.co.uk/srou/kurts/_2021//14042021_Aintree_R2)


8)


Title: Re: UKGTL Season 21 1964 British Saloon Car Champ. - Aintree - Apr 14
Post by: Dimitar Dulichki on April 15, 2021, 05:16:35 PM +0100
Well, you all know what happened on Race 1 for me guys so i am going straight to Race 2.

I had a lot of fun fighting with our German friends Micha and Manfred. I had a little bit of advantage through more of the time, but stupid mistake for one of the slower corners made me lose 2 positions and finish only in P10. But i am happy that i had 2 drives with a car that i really don't know how to drive and i suck with it.

Races from my point of view: https://youtu.be/T2aOMx6MCrs


Title: Re: UKGTL Season 21 1964 British Saloon Car Champ. - Aintree - Apr 14
Post by: Wiltshire Tony on April 15, 2021, 06:13:22 PM +0100
Result_Race1 (https://www.avonrise.co.uk/srou/kurts/_2021//14042021_Aintree_R1)

Result_Race2 (https://www.avonrise.co.uk/srou/kurts/_2021//14042021_Aintree_R2)


8)
Thanks Kurt  :thumbup1:


Title: Re: UKGTL Season 21 1964 British Saloon Car Champ. - Aintree - Apr 14
Post by: Daz9 on April 15, 2021, 08:46:52 PM +0100
I have everything in one and I had no issues.....
Which blows my theory out of the water.............. ???

EDIT: Unless you installed Lasse's latest patch before last night's race?

I think I did the patch first, I will check later as to what time I downloaded it......



I've never had separate installs for as long as I have been playing the game, I'm just not professional enough at this stuff  ;)

I downloaded the patch from Lasse on Tuesday, so would have added it at that point. In which case that would be the reason for no mismatch I would agree Tony....


Title: Re: UKGTL Season 21 1964 British Saloon Car Champ. - Aintree - Apr 14
Post by: Robby82 on April 16, 2021, 01:41:29 AM +0100
ToMicaW. and all  I am so sorry for causing your puncture and sending you out of the race. I had no idea it happened and I profusely apologize. Es tut mir sehr leid.  :wacko:


Title: Re: UKGTL Season 21 1964 British Saloon Car Champ. - Aintree - Apr 14
Post by: Geoffers on April 16, 2021, 09:03:15 AM +0100
Couple of good races at Aintree, a track that I find quite tricky, the corners always seem sharper than the last time you went around them.

The early laps of both races were quite fun. Chased Matt for a couple of laps & it was looking to be very difficult to find a way past without a mistake from Matt. Fortunately for me (and unfortunately for Matt) he braked a bit too late for Country Corner & span off, allowing me a comfortable run to the finish. Second race in the Mini again had some early laps action, mainly with Erling's Cortina. We spent most of the second lap swapping places but an error from Erling at Melling Crossing gifted me the place & I was gradually able to extend my advantage over the remaining laps & win the 1300 class.

Congrats to Matt on his win & to all the class winners.  :clap: :clap: :clap:

Commiserations to DD & Hristo on their mysterious DQs.  ???


Title: Re: UKGTL Season 21 1964 British Saloon Car Champ. - Aintree - Apr 14
Post by: Erling G-P on April 16, 2021, 05:25:12 PM +0100
Not sure what to make of this series. The scoring system where overall position doesn't count, IMHO makes much of the racing or potential racing moot - why fight tooth and nails for a position with a driver of another class, if it doesn't directly impact your options regarding others in your own class?

Wanted to use some of the cars I hadn't driven yet, so settled for Cortina & Anglia.  Got a decent start in race 1, but then found my way blocked by a non-moving Falcon, giving my class competitors Clive & Mike the opportunity to slip past.  A few corners later, I could repay the gesture, as they were both braked by a slightly wayward Jag, while I sailed past.

Then came the red flag. Grid positions after the requalify were much like before. Once again I got a good start, but then got completely thwarted and boxed in by cars going all over the place, and once again Mike & Clive were past.  Manfred got past me in his Jag, but didn't pull enough of a lead on the straights to not be in the way through corners. Thus had to watch in frustration as Clive & Mike got further away.  Eventually though, Manfred buggered off, Mike went off & Clive got taken out by a wayward Falcon, allowing me to overtake both.  Coiuldn't do anything about Andy's Mini though; he remained an elusive red spec up ahead, no matter how hard I tried to catch him.

First two laps of race two were interesting; I was dicing with Daz & Geoffers. Exploited the slow start of the Mini to get ahead of Geoffers, and drew level and even ahead of Daz on L1.  All rather pointless though - even though we were in the same class, I had no hope of competing with Daz, and he was soon through and disappeared.  Geoffers was in another class, so no point in fighting him either, so when I went off on L2, I stayed off deliberatedly until he had moved past.  Rest of the race a pretty lonely affair.

Grats to class & overall winners. Commiserations to the unfortunate ones, not least the mismatch victims.


Title: Re: UKGTL Season 21 1964 British Saloon Car Champ. - Aintree - Apr 14
Post by: phspok on April 16, 2021, 05:58:47 PM +0100
I am doing a sprint at Aintree for real next Saturday. Here is me getting the braking right for a change at Country  ;D
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lNEWQ9qKxxg (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lNEWQ9qKxxg)


Title: Re: UKGTL Season 21 1964 British Saloon Car Champ. - Aintree - Apr 14
Post by: misnoimis on April 17, 2021, 11:52:46 AM +0100
Race 1
I messed up qually but got a good start and missed all the mayhem.
I thought I was flying until everything went weird and the race was Red Flagged.

Race 1 (part 2)
I messed up qually but my start was OK I think I missed the early accidents but had a few competitive bumps then got caught up in  spins by other drivers and also had the odd off. The car was pulling to one side but was drivable but nearing the end off the race a car span on the track in front off me. I took to the grass to avoid him but unfortunately so did he and I managed to harpoon him. After that my car was barely drivable so I hoped for better luck in Race 2.

Race 2
I messed up qually ( got that off to a fine art). I had a terribly slow start. I unwisely got myself into a bad position at turn 3 and with a car on my inside and me wanting to turn sharp left had to choose between a collision or going off track. I chose the latter and bumped into a hedge that was obviously made out of bricks. My car not only didn't want to go straight but felt like it was determined turn completely round and go in the opposite direction which was no fun at all so rather than limp back to the pits and have my suspension rebuilt I decided to retire. I'm obviously no good at keeping Mini's in on piece, perhaps someone could add a Hummer to the car set and I can drive that.

Grats  winners and podiums.  :clap: :clap: :clap: