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Title: UKGTL Season 21 1973 ECGTC - Montlhéry - Apr 28
Post by: Wiltshire Tony on December 05, 2020, 05:14:14 PM +0000
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Track: Montlhery (3405km)

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Practice: ~19:20 (60 mins)
Qualifying: 20:20 (20 mins)
Race: 20:40 (32 laps)

Time of Day Setting: 14:00
Start: STANDING
Tyre wear: Normal
Fuel consumption: Normal
Pit stops required: NO

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Title: Re: UKGTL Season 21 1973 ECGTC - Montlhéry - Apr 28
Post by: fpolicardi on April 28, 2021, 07:23:16 PM +0100
Aftter a test last night on the server I have to say that I don't like at all this short version with 3 chicane with little visibility and great chance of cutting them. I prefer GPL long version that make it more driveable. Here with a dedicated setup you can really drive those nasty chicane without trouble and I haven't time to do it.
Sorry for the rant, usually I easily adapt to every car and track, but here my eyes start to tears after few laps to try to see where are the chicanes.  :eek: :wheelchair:


Title: Re: UKGTL Season 21 1973 ECGTC - Montlhéry - Apr 28
Post by: Dimitar Dulichki on April 28, 2021, 07:33:15 PM +0100
I can upload my Porsche setup Fulvio. If you want to take a look.


Title: Re: UKGTL Season 21 1973 ECGTC - Montlhéry - Apr 28
Post by: fpolicardi on April 28, 2021, 08:04:37 PM +0100
I can upload my Porsche setup Fulvio. If you want to take a look.
Thx, now I'll join with Porsche.


Title: Re: UKGTL Season 21 1973 ECGTC - Montlhéry - Apr 28
Post by: Wiltshire Tony on April 28, 2021, 10:07:31 PM +0100
Results and replay now posted.


Title: Re: UKGTL Season 21 1973 ECGTC - Montlhéry - Apr 28
Post by: Hristo Itchov on April 29, 2021, 01:22:30 AM +0100
Tony, I got dropped from the results at one point, but didn't get disconnected, so I kept racing on my own until the end. It was even showing me the others in the standings, though I kept getting a lap behind every lap. I wasn't seeing anyone anymore though. Any chance to insert me in the results? I served 2 10 secs stop/go penalties for cutting, so it's not like I'll affect the top 3. I have the replay if necessary.

For some reason I have bad luck in these series, despite going strong. Was very pleased with my pace in the Opel and we had a great battle with Daz and Geoffers for the lead, until everyone disappeared. Oddly enough it kept showing me in 5th place, instead of last. Had a little consolation in doing a 1:24.1 twice while running on my own, but very disappointing overall...

Grats to Daz, Geoffers and Dimitar!


Title: Re: UKGTL Season 21 1973 ECGTC - Montlhéry - Apr 28
Post by: fpolicardi on April 29, 2021, 10:41:11 AM +0100
I can upload my Porsche setup Fulvio. If you want to take a look.
Thx for setup, it was more forgiving than default. By the way, how did you know that I had driven Porsche?   :D


Title: Re: UKGTL Season 21 1973 ECGTC - Montlhéry - Apr 28
Post by: Wiltshire Tony on April 29, 2021, 10:59:12 AM +0100
Tony, I got dropped from the results at one point, but didn't get disconnected, so I kept racing on my own until the end. It was even showing me the others in the standings, though I kept getting a lap behind every lap. I wasn't seeing anyone anymore though. Any chance to insert me in the results? I served 2 10 secs stop/go penalties for cutting, so it's not like I'll affect the top 3. I have the replay if necessary.
According to the official server replay we lost you at replay time 666  >:D and our results reflect this.


Title: Re: UKGTL Season 21 1973 ECGTC - Montlhéry - Apr 28
Post by: Geoffers on April 29, 2021, 12:02:32 PM +0100
First, kudos to all those that drove the Porsche. It was my original intended car for this race, but after spending around 30 mins driving it the other day, I gave up as I could not keep it on the track. Every time I touched a kerb it went everywhere except where I wanted it to go, so hats off to those that did master it. :notworthy:

The Datsun on the other hand not only handled the kerbs without flinching, it felt faster too, so I went with that instead. Had a good battle with Hristo & Daz in the early laps but got a couple of cut track warnings so had to take it a bit easier through the chicanes from then on. After Hristo discoed I was around 2s behind Daz & the gap gradually increased as the race went on & was up to 10s at one point. Only in the last few laps did it come down when Daz eased the pace & the final gap was not a true reflection of the race as a whole.

Congrats to Daz on the win & to DD in 3rd.  :clap: :clap:


Title: Re: UKGTL Season 21 1973 ECGTC - Montlhéry - Apr 28
Post by: Dimitar Dulichki on April 29, 2021, 01:45:55 PM +0100
I can upload my Porsche setup Fulvio. If you want to take a look.
Thx for setup, it was more forgiving than default. By the way, how did you know that I had driven Porsche?   :D

A little bird told me that. :D

It's strange that Geoff had so much problems with Porsche i found it the most stable and fun to drive car but it was slow. So Hristo propose to take his Opel and after seeing how fast he is i made the change.

Unfortunately i was very slow but thanks to Hristo's setup i was able to be faster and faster.

The only problem here was that he became much faster during the qualy. So i was 1 step behind,

At the end of the qually i made the perfect lap even though i was testing with 50 liters for the race. I made 24.8 and i was stun nut i had high hopes for the race.

I dodn't know what happened there but my lap times in race were around 26.5 and i was consistent so i don't think the car had more potential, maybe i was scared on the chicanes to make a cut and this is the reason for the slower tempo.

Daz, Geoff and Hristo quickly disappeared and knew my only chance here is if someone of them make 3 cuts. Meanwhile on lap 20 i made my second cut so i had to be more careful till the end. There was no one around me so i could afford driving slower on the chicanes.

Grats to Daz and Geoff and sorry about what happened to Hristo. I hope Tony will import his result.

Race replay: https://youtu.be/0AJYML0uSWo

Edit: Apologies to Matt for squeezing him at the start. I saw him later. :(


Title: Re: UKGTL Season 21 1973 ECGTC - Montlhéry - Apr 28
Post by: Daz9 on April 29, 2021, 02:39:57 PM +0100
I tried the Porsche initially, same as at Nords, but found it was spinning every time I came down the banking into the chicanes, whether I was on the brakes or not. And nothing I did on the setup seemed to change that for the better. So, based on not being able to string together a couple of laps without a spin, I went for the Datsun. That was immediately easy to get on with, although it felt bigger on track, not what you want really in these tightish chicanes but it was able to run the kerbs without getting too upset.....

Best I'd done in practise was a 1.26.8, so logging on to see times in the low 25s was a bit of a shock....Tracks like these are always a measure of what time can be found by being taking big risks and being 'artful' on the chicanes, not what I prefer to do by any stretch of the imagination. Eventually realised that the gearing was too long in quali, dropped it a ratio or two on the final drive, and that is what ended up propelling me to the 1.24.0 in quali. But there was no way I would be doing that in the race.....

Got a good jump, and the order was myself, Hristo and Geoffers. There was not much between us in truth, although I think in the early part of the race particularly, if Hristo had managed to sneak past me, he may well have been too quick at the start as my car was very heavy with the full fuel load on. In truth, I had put too much in, and ended up finishing with 15 laps of fuel left in the tank, so more my fault than the car. But, it was very difficult for him to find room to go through, the Datsun is taking up a lot of this narrow track at times, and I held him off. Then he disappeared, leaving Geoff chasing me. I took the chance to go faster for a few laps to give more of a gap, and had got it up to around 10 seconds before a second cut forced me to slow down a little.

I still had around 7 seconds or so going onto the final lap, but then got totally drawn into the line Tony was taking to let me through, and nearly span it ;D. Got going just in front of Geoff, and held the lead for the lap that remained for an unexpected win.

Tough event I felt, grats to all that made the end.


Title: Re: UKGTL Season 21 1973 ECGTC - Montlhéry - Apr 28
Post by: SpecialKS on April 29, 2021, 04:31:51 PM +0100
Result (https://www.avonrise.co.uk/srou/kurts/_2021//28042021_Linas Monthlery)


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Title: Re: UKGTL Season 21 1973 ECGTC - Montlhéry - Apr 28
Post by: Wiltshire Tony on April 29, 2021, 05:57:43 PM +0100
Result (https://www.avonrise.co.uk/srou/kurts/_2021//28042021_Linas Monthlery)


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Thanks Kurt  :thumbup1:


Title: Re: UKGTL Season 21 1973 ECGTC - Montlhéry - Apr 28
Post by: Erling G-P on April 29, 2021, 09:39:55 PM +0100
Didn't want to use the Datsun again already, so it was either the Porsche or Opel.  Found the Opel to handle those aggressive kerbs a lot better than the Porsche, and I was considerably quicker in it too, so was my preferred choice.

Tried Hristo's setup, but with only 4 minutes before qual, it was just too much of a gamble; not enought time to adapt to it, so stuck with my own, although his was almost certainly better.  Got a decent start, getting past Manfred, but gobsmacked by the way Matt flew past us both. Looking at the replay, he starts moving before everyone else.  If he got away with that without a false start S/G, then his timing must have been absolutely perfect - even Dan would have dropped his jaw!

Matt got a little out of shape exiting the T1 hairpin however, allowing me to nip past.  Couple of close laps followed, until I lost the rear in the middle chicane; just not enough opposite lock to prevent the half-spin, and I ended up with my nose up the steep banking.  Wasted precious time trying to go forward, but the car wouldn't climb any higher, so had to reverse down to get going again, now in 8th place.  Regained places when first Clive, then Matt headed for the pits, presumably to serve S/Gs, and then had Manfred in front.  Chased him for most of the remainder of the race, the gap remaining around 7-8 secs almost the entire time. 

Only towards the very end, did the gap start to drop, but just as it was around 2 secs and I could start contemplating an attack, most inconveniently Daz shows up in the mirror, expecting to be let past.  Nothing to do but slow and presumably throw away any chance of challenging Manfred, so just pure luck for me when he then overshot at T1 on the final lap, allowing me to steal 4th anyway. Had to let Geoffers past too, but with Manfred far back now, it was no problem.

Grats to Daz & podium, and commiserations to Manfred, Hristo and others with misfortune.


Title: Re: UKGTL Season 21 1973 ECGTC - Montlhéry - Apr 28
Post by: Hristo Itchov on April 29, 2021, 09:47:30 PM +0100
Tony, I got dropped from the results at one point, but didn't get disconnected, so I kept racing on my own until the end. It was even showing me the others in the standings, though I kept getting a lap behind every lap. I wasn't seeing anyone anymore though. Any chance to insert me in the results? I served 2 10 secs stop/go penalties for cutting, so it's not like I'll affect the top 3. I have the replay if necessary.
According to the official server replay we lost you at replay time 666  >:D and our results reflect this.

Strange that I didn't get disconnected and even kept seeing everyone else in the race standings while driving around until the end. I guess it was all in vain  :'(


Title: Re: UKGTL Season 21 1973 ECGTC - Montlhéry - Apr 28
Post by: Erling G-P on April 29, 2021, 10:05:15 PM +0100
Tony, I got dropped from the results at one point, but didn't get disconnected, so I kept racing on my own until the end. It was even showing me the others in the standings, though I kept getting a lap behind every lap. I wasn't seeing anyone anymore though. Any chance to insert me in the results? I served 2 10 secs stop/go penalties for cutting, so it's not like I'll affect the top 3. I have the replay if necessary.
According to the official server replay we lost you at replay time 666  >:D and our results reflect this.

Strange that I didn't get disconnected and even kept seeing everyone else in the race standings while driving around until the end. I guess it was all in vain  :'(

My replay shows your car frozen in place for several seconds, with others dodging it, before you disappear, so looking like a typical disconnect.  Had something similar happening myself in the 2020 Christmas Special, where I never got a disconnect message, so continued to the end, piling an extra lap on the gap to the following car every lap, although that certainly couldn't be right.  Difference seems to be that everyone was dropped in that race.


Title: Re: UKGTL Season 21 1973 ECGTC - Montlhéry - Apr 28
Post by: Daz9 on April 30, 2021, 12:42:36 AM +0100


Only towards the very end, did the gap start to drop, but just as it was around 2 secs and I could start contemplating an attack, most inconveniently Daz shows up in the mirror, expecting to be let past. 

Sorry about that Erling.....Was bad timing all round as Geoffers was eating into the lead I had quite quickly at that precise moment also....Glad it all worked out in the end.


Title: Re: UKGTL Season 21 1973 ECGTC - Montlhéry - Apr 28
Post by: Erling G-P on April 30, 2021, 10:11:58 AM +0100


Only towards the very end, did the gap start to drop, but just as it was around 2 secs and I could start contemplating an attack, most inconveniently Daz shows up in the mirror, expecting to be let past. 

Sorry about that Erling.....Was bad timing all round as Geoffers was eating into the lead I had quite quickly at that precise moment also....Glad it all worked out in the end.

No worries Daz; just bad timing as you say, which Murphy will of course always see to arrange.  Been there myself, where you're loathe to interfere with someone's duel, but don't have the luxury of just slowing down and remaining behind.