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Title: Practice Servers and Ballast Pack 2.1
Post by: picnic on October 30, 2006, 06:56:43 PM +0000
There are two practice servers up and running at the mo, one for GTs and the other (unsurprisingly) NGTs. Usual practice password. Please would people try them so no one ends up in a panic tomorrow night just before the race


Title: Re: Practice Servers and Ballast Pack 2.1
Post by: Dave 'Gizmo' Gymer on October 30, 2006, 07:02:27 PM +0000
Cheers Pete, excellent work as usual!

Something I'd not noticed before is that if you leave a server it gets shuffled to the top of the list in the lobby screen. No wonder I can never find anything on that screen! :D


Title: Re: Practice Servers and Ballast Pack 2.1
Post by: picnic on October 30, 2006, 07:08:06 PM +0000
GTR1 did this too most of the time :P


Title: Re: Practice Servers and Ballast Pack 2.1
Post by: Dave 'Gizmo' Gymer on October 30, 2006, 07:18:55 PM +0000
Shows how much notice I pay!

I've noticed one mistake - the GT3 Cup is for some reason classed as a GT. Not sure how that happened but since we're not running G3 cars in the championship and nobody in their right mind will take a GT3 Cup to a GT event it should be pretty safe to leave it there until the refresh. :D


Title: Re: Practice Servers and Ballast Pack 2.1
Post by: Jimmie on October 31, 2006, 01:28:47 AM +0000
Another mistake, the cars pop up under the 'normal' single makes (no not meaning the UKGTR one :D)

For the rest it's looking great so far


Title: Re: Practice Servers and Ballast Pack 2.1
Post by: Dave 'Gizmo' Gymer on October 31, 2006, 09:18:52 AM +0000
Another mistake, the cars pop up under the 'normal' single makes (no not meaning the UKGTR one :D)

That's not a mistake; as explained in the skinning thread, by design the skinned but unballasted versions as submitted appear among the 'normal' game cars.


Title: Re: Practice Servers and Ballast Pack 2.1
Post by: tarec on October 31, 2006, 09:31:06 AM +0000
hi, i try the server yesterday evening and everything is working fine, nice cars in the carpack , congratulations to all.


Title: Re: Practice Servers and Ballast Pack 2.1
Post by: Aagramn on October 31, 2006, 11:04:00 AM +0000
Thanks Picnic. Did some testing on the NGT server yesterday, looked good and some great skins.


Title: Re: Practice Servers and Ballast Pack 2.1
Post by: Jimmie on October 31, 2006, 01:18:50 PM +0000
Another mistake, the cars pop up under the 'normal' single makes (no not meaning the UKGTR one :D)

That's not a mistake; as explained in the skinning thread, by design the skinned but unballasted versions as submitted appear among the 'normal' game cars.

If I select Ferrari 360 for example everything is double? So 4 'cars' Ferrari 360 GTC, Ferrari 360 GTC (+30kg), Ferrari 360 Modena and Ferrari 360 Modena (+10kg)

You can't tell me that's not a mistake :P (the unballasted versions do appear in the right category as well, so that does work)


Title: Re: Practice Servers and Ballast Pack 2.1
Post by: Dave 'Gizmo' Gymer on October 31, 2006, 01:22:16 PM +0000
If I select Ferrari 360 for example everything is double? So 4 'cars' Ferrari 360 GTC, Ferrari 360 GTC (+30kg), Ferrari 360 Modena and Ferrari 360 Modena (+10kg)

You can't tell me that's not a mistake :P (the unballasted versions do appear in the right category as well, so that does work)

You must have some sort of "full" class which I don't have then! You should only be able to see the ballasted GTC in the UKGTR classes, and the unballasted one in all the 'normal' game classes. You should never be able to see both at once. Ditto the Modena. If you can see both ballasted and unballasted (or all four at once) I'd like to know where, because the ballasted cars don't have any classes in common with the standard cars, and it's class which the game uses to filter the selections.


Title: Re: Practice Servers and Ballast Pack 2.1
Post by: CeeJay on October 31, 2006, 01:39:38 PM +0000
Adctually Dave it looks like there are redundant carfiles in the carpack for the UKGTR skins.
I'd assume there should only be a UKGTR_xxx.car file but for the custom skins (all of them) there's also a normal unballasted carfile.
Example, the UKGTR990001T Nissan there a 990001T.car file that shouldnt really be there.
Those files content is pretty similar to the original car with respect to car classes filters, so they do show up when you select the Official Class in the game.

Dunno if this makes any sense, hard to explain heh


Title: Re: Practice Servers and Ballast Pack 2.1
Post by: Dave 'Gizmo' Gymer on October 31, 2006, 01:58:20 PM +0000
Adctually Dave it looks like there are redundant carfiles in the carpack for the UKGTR skins.
I'd assume there should only be a UKGTR_xxx.car file but for the custom skins (all of them) there's also a normal unballasted carfile.
Example, the UKGTR990001T Nissan there a 990001T.car file that shouldnt really be there.
Those files content is pretty similar to the original car with respect to car classes filters, so they do show up when you select the Official Class in the game.

Dunno if this makes any sense, hard to explain heh

Yes, I know all that. In fact it's what I just said. :P


Title: Re: Practice Servers and Ballast Pack 2.1
Post by: CeeJay on October 31, 2006, 03:24:07 PM +0000
lol ok, gotta learn to read and focus what is says at the same time :D


Title: Re: Practice Servers and Ballast Pack 2.1
Post by: Jimmie on October 31, 2006, 04:06:57 PM +0000
If I select Ferrari 360 for example everything is double? So 4 'cars' Ferrari 360 GTC, Ferrari 360 GTC (+30kg), Ferrari 360 Modena and Ferrari 360 Modena (+10kg)

You can't tell me that's not a mistake :P (the unballasted versions do appear in the right category as well, so that does work)

You must have some sort of "full" class which I don't have then! You should only be able to see the ballasted GTC in the UKGTR classes, and the unballasted one in all the 'normal' game classes. You should never be able to see both at once. Ditto the Modena. If you can see both ballasted and unballasted (or all four at once) I'd like to know where, because the ballasted cars don't have any classes in common with the standard cars, and it's class which the game uses to filter the selections.

Well I go to Open Practise, at the CAR selection I choose Single Makes with Ferrari 360 for example
 

(http://img157.imagevenue.com/loc303/th_10601_shot1_122_303lo.jpg) (http://img157.imagevenue.com/img.php?image=10601_shot1_122_303lo.jpg)


Then I go to selection:
 

(http://img120.imagevenue.com/loc337/th_10606_shot2_122_337lo.jpg) (http://img120.imagevenue.com/img.php?image=10606_shot2_122_337lo.jpg)



It might be happening due GTR2 threatening classes as Wildcars, since the UKGTR_F360 class would match in that case.


Title: Re: Practice Servers and Ballast Pack 2.1
Post by: Dave 'Gizmo' Gymer on October 31, 2006, 04:50:52 PM +0000
It might be happening due GTR2 threatening classes as Wildcars, since the UKGTR_F360 class would match in that case.

You're absolutely right. I only added those classes a couple of days before release so that's why I didn't notice them. Even more annoying is that I specifically and deliberately chose to use the same codes with a prefix. ::) Easy enough to fix when we do the refresh.

I've also managed to fix the GT3 Cup - but I don't really understand why the fix works. I reordered the classifications into alphanumeric order, which seems to do the trick, but I don't understand why the Viper CC and Z3M were correctly classified before but not the GT3 Cup.

If only any of this stuff was documented! ::) :laugh:


Title: Re: Practice Servers and Ballast Pack 2.1
Post by: picnic on October 31, 2006, 05:18:42 PM +0000
If only any of this stuff was documented! ::) :laugh:

If only they had done a proper job and implemented online weight penalties  :-\


Title: Re: Practice Servers and Ballast Pack 2.1
Post by: Joss on November 19, 2006, 07:23:44 PM +0000
Sounds good. Are fun races run often? Do you just go in and drive?

Soz for all the q's


Title: Re: Practice Servers and Ballast Pack 2.1
Post by: picnic on November 19, 2006, 07:43:19 PM +0000
There aren't so many fun races just now as the 3 main GTR2 leagues are in full swing along with the GTL and ASRWC stuff. All fun races are open to anyone registered on the forum.


Title: Re: Practice Servers and Ballast Pack 2.1
Post by: Joss on November 19, 2006, 08:47:37 PM +0000
Cool, thanks for the info Picnic. :D