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Driver lists can be found on the championship standings page (https://www.simracing.org.uk/smf/index.php?action=LM2R;group=1252)

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Welcome to Round 1 of UKAC's first DTM season - this round will feature the first 2 races of the championship.
As this is the 1st round no-one will be running with success ballast, so may the best driver win!

Oschersleben is fairly new, having only opened in 1997, and features a fairy flat circuit with only slight elevation changes.
Turn 1 (as per most German circuits for some reason) is the biggest danger zone - to quote John Cleland: "The guy who designed this first corner should be taken into a dark room and beat about the head".

When joining the server please ensure you select the correct car.


Password: see above (#post_event_password)

Practice: 19:30 (45 mins)
Qual: 20:15 (15 mins)
Race: 20:30  (2x 15 lap races)


Cars allowed:
Alfa 155 (+11Kg ballast, 10% (-42Hp) restrictor)
BMW M3 DTM (no handicap)
Ford Sierra R500 V3.03 (+20Kg Ballast, 45% restrictor (turbos don't respond the same as N/A before you ask!)
https://www.racedepartment.com/downloads/ford-sierra-cosworth-rs500-pack.24027/
Mercedes 190E DTM (+6Kg ballast, 1% (-6.3Hp) restrictor).


Track: Oscherleben GP
https://www.racedepartment.com/downloads/oschersleben.25926/ (https://www.racedepartment.com/downloads/oschersleben.25926/)

The first lap of each race will be moderated as far as the McDonalds chicane - any incidents that require moderation beyond that point will require a report to be raised in the normal fashion.

Live Timing: here (http://stracker.simracing.org.uk:50041/lapstat) (Only available in the week up to the race)

Time of Day Setting: 13:30
Weather: Mid-clear
Start: Standing
Tyre wear: Normal
Fuel consumption: Normal
Pit-stops: Not required

Server track settings:
SESSION_START=98
RANDOMNESS=0
LAP_GAIN=4
SESSION_TRANSFER=96

Damage: 70%

One week to go guys - Practice server is now up!  8)

2 things worth mentioning:

1.
If you have Content Manager/Shaders Patch and everything seems massively over-exposed or grey regardless of weather settings then this can be fixed by editing the following file;

*your steam directory*\steamapps\common\assettocorsa\content\tracks\tmm_oschersleben\extension\ext_config.ini

open this in notepad/wordpad and delete the following lines from near the top of the file:


You should be left with a file structure that starts with the [ABOUT] section and then has [MATERIAL_ADJUSTMENT_0] and the remainder of the info.
When you re-load the track you should now have working sky/weather/shadows (make a backup to be safe but this worked for me) :)

2.
I was bored and made some extra cameras as the 2 that come with the track are good, but fairly similar to each other.
https://www.dropbox.com/s/rjrft580f472rnl/Oschersleben%20cams.rar?dl=0 (https://www.dropbox.com/s/rjrft580f472rnl/Oschersleben%20cams.rar?dl=0)

These go into the '*your steam directory*\steamapps\common\assettocorsa\content\tracks\tmm_oschersleben\layout_gp\data' folder (you'll see the other camera files if you're in the right place).
they should work in the moto variant also, but the crane cams will probably no longer be in the crane platforms so might look odd...

cool who's up for some practise laps later today?  :)

I'll hopefully be on at some point - got some new cars/tracks to try too

Hello Tim and all SROUK chaps. I was trying to understand if there will be a second qualifying session before race 2, or if the result of qualif. 1 will determine the starting grid of both races. I read the champonship topic, but I didn't find the answer.

I wish to all of you the best for a better 2021!  ::) ;D

I just came here to ask the same question :)

The way we currently set up the server the second race grid is determined by the finishing order of the first race (with the option to reverse positions if desired). Not sure if you can have a second qualy session in AC without manually reseting the server.

As above - the second race start will be determined by finishing order from the first.
AC won't support a second qualifying session, and there's no way I'm running another reverse grid series!

I actually thought I'd put that in the announcement, I'll go re-read and edit that to suit then.....

Thanks for your reply chaps  ;)

nice to see just a few tenths separates top 5 in 4 different cars so far  :)

The Skin pack has now been released - it can be found in the first post of the series announcement thread (with instructions) or here:

https://www.dropbox.com/s/6r06s5us7t7exvi/DTM%20Skin%20pack.rar?dl=0 (https://www.dropbox.com/s/6r06s5us7t7exvi/DTM%20Skin%20pack.rar?dl=0)

The Server has now been restarted and everyone should be in their correct car ready for race day :)

Looking forward to this series. And looks like a healthy grid too.
I had the pleasure of racing my bike on this track. I still get the shivers though passing the gravel trap at the final turn, as I high sided the bike big time there during practice... This simming is a lot safer hahaha

Don't know about that, when she was younger my GSD used to lie behind my pedals.
Bad footwork used to get me bitten ;D

By the way Stefan, sTracker says that you drove with paddles to set your fastest lap while your car is supposed to have a H-pattern, is this a bogue or something ?  ???

That raised by Maxime is not a superflous matter talking about AC. Just to let you know, as Aris reported in an "ancient" post, Assetto Corsa manage the shifting timing in a different way based on the modality you choose to play with. To be more clear I paste here his post

"We designed it in a way that the less assists you use the more the system forces you to drive realistically and the more realistically you drive, the faster the system let you go.

So:

    automatic gearbox + autoblip + auto cut + auto clutch -> easiest -> slower
    manual gearbox + paddles + autoclutch + autoblip - no autocut -> less easy -> a bit faster
    manual gearbox + paddles - no autoclutch - no autoblip -> hard -> fast
    manual H shifter -> manual clutch -> harder -> faster"

As Maxime noticed, by the stracker seems that you're driving with paddles + autoclutch, that is something like the 2nd configuration proposed by Aris. So, every driver that won't use an H shifter + manual clutch will be "penalized" by the game itself. This "penalty" is given in terms of time to shift gears, so you will lose some milliseconds for every upshift and downshift, you'll lose some acceleration and probably some top speed at the end of the straights. That is the way AC works, as Aris explained. Tbh it is the same in every sim I played with until today :D

EDIT: After I wrote this post I checked every best lap page for drivers that use ptracker, and it seems strange that everyone is reported with "Automatic clutch: ON"  ??? I'm sure I'm with manual clutch at the moment, as I'm always on the razor's edge toward the last laps of the race with my gearbox  ;D ;D

@FMG: Is it possible that "autoclutch" is forced ON by the server?!?! I bet that should be an issue of the unreliable ptracker in this case, but I could be wrong ::)

https://www.racedepartment.com/threads/automatic-throttle-blip-and-cut.65123/#post-1376242

Autoclutch can only be forced OFF from reading the server manual.
We have it set to on, I think this was to help people out who didn't have H-shifters - as AC penalises you for using it when you could be driving manual I see no need to disable that option :)

An easy test (which I just did) is to enter the server, park up and put the car in gear - once you let off the clutch the engine should stall if your own settings are for manual.
My car stalled on the server when I did this, I then drove about 400 meters without using the clutch and blew my gearbox up ;D

I think that this is a bug in S-Tracker and it simply reports the server setting rather than what the client has.

Well I guess that is because I am on a DFGT still without a clutch pedal and the sequential shifter is listed as paddles, so that would be correct. When my pc decides to stop blue screening on me I will be saving up for a newer wheel with proper pedals and a H-shifter..

i am definitely on manual clutch and H-shifter so must be a stracker bug  :)

Nice to know that i'm being penalised for not being good enough ::) Paddles and auto clutch, though with these manual cars I know I could run with auto clutch off being that I still need to manually blip the throttle but it just provides a safety net if I spin or time the change wrong.

In some way you're right, but think about the fact that nobody would have used an H shifter if AC developers didn't penalised drivers that uses paddles and autoclutch in some way, cause they would have been advantaged on this aspect. They probably calculated an average of time needed to upshift and downshit with an H shifter, and then they manually added few milliseconds to that average time. That's the same way it worked with GTR2, P&G, GTL, Raceroom, rF1 and 2... etc etc.

In fairness paddles Vs H-shifter is as much driver oriented as setups are.

With a full manual you can intentionally miss-match a shift up or down to invoke wheelspin or gain some extra braking force in an older car.
In any vehicle where those techniques allow you to go faster paddles couldn't keep up even if they had a shift time advantage - the car control gained through manual clutch is worth far more time in corners.
Also don't forget you can block shift with a manual to reduce workload under heavy braking.

In real life the braking force trick can also be very handy when you have brake fade.
I might have used it to very helpful effect entering Bergwerk while playing with a 90's 911 GT2 during touristfahrten a few years back - that would have been a nasty car/armco interface moment otherwise and very costly! :o
Still my favourite lap of any circuit ever driven though, it was as full-on as I can ever see myself going on the 'Ring 8)

Its more in the clutch usage, the auto clutch can be a massive disadvantage sometimes but with everything you need to learn how best to minimise the disadvantages.



Block Shift? Oh, not sequential? ok

There also are advantages in paddles shiftings as being able to keep both hands 100% of the time on the wheel, being 100% left foot on the brake if you have auto-clutch or don't need to use any clutch, and getting less tired over the course of a long run. So that quite compensates.

For me here is a true disappointment about sim racing, especially when it comes to classic cars racing : the sofware management of the transmission/clutch/gearbox aspects. AC sometimes is good enough, but not everytime, by far. Show me a racing sim that really shines in this department, and you'll get all my attention.

We have a couple of new joiners tonight so I've just updated the server files at my end and will copy them over when I fire up the race server proper - until then if Gavin or Mark are on the practice server they might occupy someone else's skin..... There are spare Fords though so it shouldn't keep anyone from practicing.

Provided we don't get a load of unannounced drivers appear we should be fine in the race.

I'll also try my best to get the race server up earlier than normal with an extended practice just to make sure it's working correctly with all the added drivers :)


Please remember that the 1st laps of each race are going to be moderated - this is touring cars so gentle rubbing and leaning through corner's I'll accept (within reason), but if you pile into the back of the pack in T1 the only excuse I'll accept is blatantly obvious ping doing the dirty.

We all know T1 is going to be bad so brake early and stay aware that the further back in the grid you are the earlier the braking zone will have to be for you - My personal habit is to roll out of the throttle well before you expect the car ahead to brake, or to brake very early but very gently. :)
Each of those methods should discourage the car behind from doing something silly while also forcing them to slow early and be less likely to rear end you - you're also on the brake pedal already so can react faster to the unexpected ;)

After T1 most of this circuit should be pretty straight forward to fight on aside from the reducing radius left handers about half way into the lap, I'd recommend caution if you decide to dive inside someone as you still have to slow through that complex and leave room for your opponent!

Sorry all - results will have to wait for tomorrow as I'll need to manually edit them before they'll upload to the system :censored:

In other news if someone can upload the replay to race 1 then that would be very helpful - I lost keyboard control thanks to shaders patch and had to hard quit and rejoin at the end of the race ::)

From a very quick look at race 2 that appears to be clean though in lap 1, I'll check it properly later but good work all if it was as clean as it appears 8)

Thanks for having me along guys. That was fantastic fun, great clean racing. Looking forward to the next one. and well done to you all.   ;D

Gav

Cracking pair of races for Round 1  8) think I was in a very close battle for every minute of race 1 and 98% of race 2  :o Great clean racing by all as well considering cars had a rizla paper between them most of the lap  :fencing:
Qualified 5th but a long first gear had me bogging down at the start and allowed a car or two past me. Then spent the entire race stuck behind Syds wide Alfa. I was way quicker in nearly every corner but he had the grunt to blast out of each turn until the next one. Great battle though  8) Finished 7th I think.
Race 2 I shortened my gears and had so many great fights it was a blast. Gained a couple of spots But I started to tire and get hot midway so small mistakes crept in costing me places. Finished 10th I think.

Great fun and glad the new guys enjoyed it  :thumbup1: Well done Matteo and the podium  :notworthy:

For a strange coincidence AC saved my replay even if I'm almost sure I have the options for autosave set to off... must check this out!

You can download it from my drive and I will delete it in 3 days. From what I saw the start of both races has been really clean, so well done evrybody  ;)

Race 1 start at min 29 and 10 seconds.

Race 2 start after 1 hour and few seconds of my replay

https://drive.google.com/file/d/1jDssGNtE-XKdjbmJk-SbKvkG6ULgVVca/view?usp=sharing

Results are now posted - I'll go over the mandatory moderation part of lap 1 in both races later today so if you were involved in anything there (a very quick look at Manteos' replay suggests it was clean) then there's no need to report it.

For reporting incidents further into the race please submit reports via the link under the relevant race results - the system doesn't always seem to notify me so if you drop me a PM also that would be appreciated.
Please submit reports by the end of Sunday - I can't guarantee I'll get through them before the next event but at least will try.

I'm tempted to report my own mechanic for sending me out on Hards in race 1 ::)
I don't seem to have the tire life of Matteo on Mediums, but they were still way better than the hards for over-all pace, and if I could have got in front I might have had a chance..
I guess the tire wear is hardly surprising given my driving style! :ninja:

not sure those results are totally correct? For race 1 it shows me finishing 6 secs behind Syd whereas i was right on his boot across the line. (where i'd spent the whole race!) Also think i qualified 5th with a 1:38.5(or 6). My ptracker had smoking steel garage qualified in 6th. Syd got past me on the s/f straight due to my long 1st gear. :(
Race 2 i started 11th behind Syd which surprised me as thought it was reverse grid for R2?

The results show you finishing 0.3 seconds behind Syd in race 1 ???
As for the qualifying - you and Gavin managed the exact same time as far as the export and S-tracker are concerned.
http://stracker.simracing.org.uk:50041/sessiondetails?sessionid=5489# (http://stracker.simracing.org.uk:50041/sessiondetails?sessionid=5489#)
It's possible that the game records to a greater fidelity and put you in 5th for that, but I guess LM2 just goes alphabetically.

Race 2 was not reverse grid, it says so in the series announcement, in the previous page of this thread, and in the welcome message for the race when you join the server.
In the replay you are 6th on the grid so I'm not sure why you think you were in 11th?

I think you need more coffee :P

It was great racing with such a big and competative grid lads. Also good to see there didn't seem to be stupid T1 incidents.

I was happy with my qually effort but had a bad start as i was suffering from the over-exposure so could not see the start lights going out.. >:(  I certainly hope that there will be a proper fix from CM/SOL for the next races..
To make matters worse I had another blue screen at lap 6 or so and I hope none of you guys where effected by that. Still no idea what is causing it, but it happens only when playing AC. I have no problems with my other sims. Might just delete everything AC and do a clean install..

Race 2 was big fun and a big task as I had to start from ast of course. With the laptimes so close, it is very hard to pass someone. Racing was though but fair and luvely to have people to race against all race long!  Had one incident with the Texaco Eggenberger Ford when he lost it exiting Hasseroder corner and I had nowhere to go and clipped the rear bumper.
Thanks all for racing and congrats to the podium guys!

Next one seems to be a power track, so will be tough with a Beemer.

Did you remove the lines I mentioned in the 2nd post? This track had some wierd issues for me hence I did that to my own install.

Also don't forget you can use the Home & End keys (or it might be Page Up/Page Down, I forget) to adjust contrast in game, this is a godsend in VR I can assure you ;D

hmm, when i posted that earlier only race 2 results were showing, when i refreshed after, race 1 had been added  ??? hence my confusion  ;) but yes was pre-coffee as well  ;D
and no, i hadnt read the bit about 2nd race grid. Stracker told me i was 11th on grid for R2 and i was a long way down the sf straight  :-\ but it was playing up in the race as well. (add-on track maybe causing that?).

Didnt know that tip about light exposure, i was struggling with over exposure too, could hardly read some race times/names and some cars had a shiny and silver sheen (rift-s)

I'm sure that you're right mate. I watched the replay yesterday, and despite you drove a bit more gentle on throttle than usual, your power oversteer doesn't help tire's life for sure, especially in that right corners. If you see my first stint with meds of 4th Jan (from lap 9 to 22), you will notice that my left tyres abandoned me after 8 laps. I was trying some suggestion from Fabri about power diff. at 60%, and I noticed I'd have been faster on a timed lap, but my pace after 8 laps was rubbish cause tyres were completely gone => http://stracker.simracing.org.uk:50041/sessiondetails?playerInSessionId=19241#

So I had to change something in setup, and I found that lowering the diff. to 40% caused a sensible difference in terms of tyre wear. Then I changed my lines a bit, especially in the first right hander in which you were sensibly faster. But that corner is a left tyre killer too and you can easily notice that my throttle management in that corner was a lot different by yours. With less power you can manage better your tire life keeping a constant pace until the end. Your race 2 pace was brutal, especially during the first laps, but in the last 3 or 4 laps you were clearly suffering more than me.

However, I'm sure we will have some busy time in near future, as I will get some more ballast and that will be a matter for top speed in this car. Looking forward to some nice battles :)

Thanks everybody for showing up. See you for the next :)

The shiny sheen is the bug I mentioned in Post #2. It's track specific and something to do with shaders patch. If you delete the parts I mention it turns back into a normal functional track - nothing to do with VR and won't be fixed through the in game adjustment buttons.

As I said earlier, I'm not a fan of these cars, nor of the needed BoP, neither of this 1st round track.
Still I think we could get some nice fun thanks to Tim's series building work.  :)

1st race was crap here, as my qualif, because I can't make the soft and medium tyres work so far. They're overheating too easily at the rear.
2nd race I picked the hard compound and it was better.

Is it possible get ALL server info from now on, I mean what will be air/track temps. My tire pressures was way off when practice server was up...

Practice server had the same settings as the race server - It's literally the same file but with the password removed and the practice/qually times extended.

If you're seeing a big change it is likely to be brake locks and extra drift while fighting people, or simply going faster as you've learnt the track better through the race.
Aside from my front right tire (as I kept locking it) all other tires were at normal pressure for me based on earlier practice.

Same here and my times were well down and the car slid around more. I had too much expectation having practised!

I did several laps in practice server before and pressures was always constant so it's not that, will you put those temps anyway in next race so we all can see what to expect?

It is that though - it's the same file.
I actually copy and paste it in order to create the practice server, there is literally nothing else I can change there.

I can put them up but it'll vary every time you run it by a few degrees from what ever I post anyway.

That would be nice, makes offline practice is more accurate.

According to server manager the Ambient base temp is 24 degrees and the road differential is the recommended 9 degrees with 2 degrees of variation.

In other words the track can only vary by 2 degrees between sessions, I still think that any wildly different tire pressures last round have nothing to do with conditions and this only convinces me further.
Especially as I didn't have any difference between race pressures and practice pressures - Based on his pace I can only assume the same goes for Matteo.

This is the default setting for the server so unless I say otherwise then that's what it will be

Agree ;)

I'm pleased to say the opening lap of both rounds was clean of anything needing the attention of my big stick :)

Moderation for the sole report of race 1 completed:
In an event like this the penalty would almost certainly have been voided in the event of the place being returned at the next safe opportunity even if a complaint was raised (Offline on the next major straight is the preference - don't just stop!).

While the move is fully understandable (I would have considered/taken it too!), when Kimi's slide proved to be less problematic than it first appeared the safest thing to do would be to back out of the move and lessen the risk of contact.

On the plus side, bonus points were awarded by Sheriff John Burnell for a perfect pit manoeuvrer :D (Non-UK residents may need to search him in Youtube ;) )